A tribute to the best and greatest thread in the world: Off Topic

[Psychosplodge]

We've a long way to go before we reach the previous point.

[Wolfshade]

I suppose he is perhaps technically correct calling it desolate, given the sparisty of population, but the emotive negative undertones are not welcome. He could have (and should have) phrased it better.

[Necron2.0]

Bad news Necron :(

Will the insurance cover the cost of the repair?

It is things like this that make me think having all children brought up in boarding schools wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Regarding insurance, not sure yet. I need to do some calling around. It's not going to be cheap, though, as the window they hit isn't a traditional square one.

As for boarding schools, screw that. I say take them to the Agoge - let a group of boys three times their size beat the mother-loving disrespect out of them.

[Psychosplodge]

I suppose he is perhaps technically correct calling it desolate, given the sparisty of population, but the emotive negative undertones are not welcome. He could have (and should have) phrased it better.

Sounds a bit post-apocalyptic as opposed to vast tracts of outstanding natural beauty...

[DrLove42]

I'm frankly against Fracking at any level. its incredibly destructive and everyone seen all the methane leaking into waters.

[Wolfshade]

Sounds a bit post-apocalyptic as opposed to vast tracts of outstanding natural beauty...

Have you seen Sunderland? ;)

Well I hope it gets sorted double quick N.

[Psychosplodge]

I don't mind them doing it in wales.

[Wolfshade]

It will be fracking awesome.

Let us be honest we need something to replace coal and oil and since people are weirdly anti-nuclear (my prefered option, plus as a by product of power we get uranium/plutonium that we can weaponise) so to secure our engery sources going into the future we need an option that is cost-effective and frankly solar/tidal/wind are not that solution.

[Psychosplodge]

We really should be pushing the nuclear option before we get to the point where we need it. Apparently we're only going to have something like 2% spare capacity in the near future, which seems ridiculous.


Also they're giving away shiny legendary pokemon in september...

[Mr Mystery]

Even Mr Liberal Mystery (for it is my middle name) is in favour of Nucelar power. It's clean! It's safe! It's efficient!

Seriously. Yes, when it goes wrong it's really really bad. But how many incidents have their actually been?

[Psychosplodge]

And they've been on older, less well designed systems. Apparently ours "fail safe".
and if you stick them in places like the far north west, anglesy, down near landsend, basicly out the way, we should be alriteish...

[Cap'nSmurfs]

There's been more than is strictly comfortable, to be fair. Chernobyl is still the worst, although the jury's still out on the long-term effects of the Fukushima event. One of the more worrying tendencies is the ability and desire on the part of the nuclear industry to convince you that nothing bad ever happens. Check out the official line on Three Mile Island, and then do a bit of digging into some of the independent research done on the long-term effects.

Nuclear is very low carbon, which is a huge plus, but it does mean you have to take care of the spent material after its been used. You have to keep that **** safe and secured for about 100,000 years. We're not very good at building things which last ten, so far. Which is not to say it can't be done; it's just that it's more difficult than the nuclear lobby wants you to think.

On "fail safe" new designs, you may want to check out the problems EdF has been having getting its next-gen reactors up and running. There've been several design flaws discovered and the projects are quite far over time and over budget in some cases as a result.

Also, you may have missed the story, but it was reported a couple of weeks ago that the age of cheap uranium is about to come to a close. The price of nuclear is about to go up by quite a lot, if current projections hold.

All of which said, I would much rather have medium-term nuclear - so long as it's used to transition us to sustainable energy production, which is both safe and feasible at the moment, if the political will exists to do it - than shale gas fracking in any capacity. That stuff is awful.

[DrLove42]

There are three major issues that spring to mind

Fukishima in Japan - The result of a gorram 7.0 Earthquake. Still no meltdown, just irradiated area.

Three Mile Island in the States. Blocked valve because of a computer issue in a 1970's system caused a partial meltdown, and release of some radiation. No cancer cases linked to this discovered yet

And the big one - Chernobyl, Ukraine. The result of a mechanical failure in a 1970 Soviet building. Total meltdown, large uninhabitable area.

With modern engineering and computers they're one of the safest forms of power, barring extreme hand of god accidents.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Chernobyl was not only mechanical but also user error. They ran a test when they shouldn't have.

Actually, it's worth finding and reading the report by the Chernobyl investigator. It's like a classic horror story.

[Psychosplodge]

Literally they are designed now to shut down if any element fails, hence fail safe..

I read somewhere that most of the incidents that occurred at windscale were related to nuclear weapons development in some form or other.
I only need to worry about storage for the next fifty or so, the previous generation ****ed us over financially, so why should we bother about the next?

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Right, but what a "design flaw" means is that they may be "designed" to shut down, but if the design is flawed...

The problems specifically were with the integrity of the shielding.

[Bitrider]

Glad to see you are happier! Cheers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23501423

[Kirsten]

just been to see The World's End, instantly one of my all times favourite films, everyone must go see it.

also I love this song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFoZ1KtiTA0&list=FL4-Hc0DFgr3GIRWthqzfPYg&index=1

[Wolfshade]

Nuclear power is safer than most sources, as for waste, well it is easier to store several tonnes of radioactive material than megatonnes of ash produced yearly.

As for spent fuel, use them to heat swimming pools: http://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

Or reprocess them, or convert the energy to biomass using radiotropric fungus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus), of course my favourite would be to jettison it to another solar body, like Venus, it is not suitable for mining due to the sulphuric rain, or the sun. Though with these off-world solutions the energy required to escape earth might make it inefficient.

[khambatta]

Watched a documentary about this storage facility in Finland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository). Seems that after 100,000 years of human & cultural evolution, no-one will understand what "Keep Out!!!" means, so the builders are having trouble with the signage.

[eldargal]

The thing to remember about Chernobyl is that the Soviets didn't build containment shell thingies over the reactor like, you know, everyone else. Chernobyl style events can't happen anywhere else.

Fukushima happened because in a country prone to significant earth quakes the company building the plant cut corners to save costs. If you don't have earthquakes or builkd it properly if you do, no problem.

Thanks to an absurd connection to nuclear weapons (people still genuinely believe nuclear reactors 'melting down' mean they explode like a bomb) and a focus on the very, very few negative events people think nuclear power is less safe and more harmful than coal or gas powered power plants. When the opposite is true. If you believe carbon is a problem, you should support nuclear energy. If you don't, you should support nuclear energy. Strict government supervision, follow the French model of uniform reactor types so economy of scale kicks in with parts and maintenance etc. and you get cheap, pollutant free energy at the cost of a bit of nuclear waste that can be dealt with in a myriad of ways.

[Psychosplodge]

Right, but what a "design flaw" means is that they may be "designed" to shut down, but if the design is flawed...

The problems specifically were with the integrity of the shielding.

So a none mechanical part?


Glad to see you are happier! Cheers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23501423

We aren't, it's lies and propaganda.

[eldargal]

Just saw this amazing Kerrigan cosplay:
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4456&d=1375256550
Wish I knew where it was from, the problem when friends send things and forget where they got it from.

[DrLove42]

That is pretty impressive.

Still Kerrigan looks better before going all Queen of Blades on us...

[eldargal]

Depends what you're into...

http://jointhecosplaynation.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/kerrigan-01.jpg
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/arcadesushi.com/files/2013/02/Zeraphie-1.jpg
Cosplayer is 'Zeraphie'.

[DrLove42]

Mmmm....redheads.

[Psychosplodge]

But it's white.... who uses a white combatbodyglove? It stands out, and shows up all the dirt.

[Wolfshade]

The thing to remember about Chernobyl is that the Soviets didn't build containment shell thingies over the reactor like, you know, everyone else. Chernobyl style events can't happen anywhere else.

Fukushima happened because in a country prone to significant earth quakes the company building the plant cut corners to save costs. If you don't have earthquakes or builkd it properly if you do, no problem.

Thanks to an absurd connection to nuclear weapons (people still genuinely believe nuclear reactors 'melting down' mean they explode like a bomb) and a focus on the very, very few negative events people think nuclear power is less safe and more harmful than coal or gas powered power plants. When the opposite is true. If you believe carbon is a problem, you should support nuclear energy. If you don't, you should support nuclear energy. Strict government supervision, follow the French model of uniform reactor types so economy of scale kicks in with parts and maintenance etc. and you get cheap, pollutant free energy at the cost of a bit of nuclear waste that can be dealt with in a myriad of ways.

Part of the issue is how people react to risk assessment, and you see this all over the shop. Fear also strengthens memory, so catastrophes like plane crashes and terrorist attacks stay with us. As a result, we overestimate the odds of dreadful but infrequent events and underestimate how risky ordinary events are.

Just have to wait for ITER to start producing clean energy :) Woot Woot

That cosplay thing looks unreal.

Cyclists cycling too fast : http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3829734.ece
From the ministry of silly ideas, most bikes don't have odometer on them, of course the same result could be by putting a minimum 15 mph speed limit on the route...
Zooom!

[eldargal]

If ITER is a success it will be revolutionary, might even let us tear down all those godawful wind turbines and tidal power things.:rolleyes:

[DrLove42]

I like Wind Turbines. They're not the eyesore every whinges they are.

Hideously expensive and maintainance heavy....but not ugly

[eldargal]

They aren't as ugly as people make out, no, they are just stupid, overrated, expensive crap that doesn't work well enough to justify it's continued existence.

[Wolfshade]

I like wind turbines, the look shiney:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/08/article-2071633-0F1B4D7000000578-392_964x642.jpg

Though more than the eye-soreness, which is subjective, is the noise the deep throbbing woooo-wooooo-woooo noise

[Psychosplodge]

If ITER is a success it will be revolutionary, might even let us tear down all those godawful wind turbines and tidal power things.:rolleyes:

Oh gods please.


I like Wind Turbines. They're not the eyesore every whinges they are.

Hideously expensive and maintainance heavy....but not ugly

You clearly haven't had your beautiful rolling hills blighted by these pointless things poking up over the top.

[Wolfshade]

It's ok if they are ugly you can put them in the "desolate" North East...

[Psychosplodge]

¬_¬

[eldargal]

I don't think they are ugly, which isn't to say all the lovely green hills in England being covered with them isn't really sad to see. It's like modern extensions to old buildings. Or breast implants.

[Psychosplodge]

Breast implants are a crime against humanity.


Anyway, this (http://thesquishyone.tumblr.com/post/56946638874/a-soldier-and-his-squirrel) is adawbs.

[DrLove42]

Booobs

Squirrel!

[Mr Mystery]

They aren't as ugly as people make out, no, they are just stupid, overrated, expensive crap that doesn't work well enough to justify it's continued existence.

I'd rather see small scale, affordable eco-energy, such as roof mounted solar and wind for the individual.

[Wolfshade]

I think some of the modern extensions to old buildings look a lot better than having modern "old style" extensions to old buildings. After all there is little point in having abuilding that looks pretty if it is not functional.

[eldargal]

I'd rather see small scale, affordable eco-energy, such as roof mounted solar and wind for the individual.
Solar is better, though for the high efficiency stuff it relies on some products of nasty, polluting processes like cadmium smelting. We recently stuffed a bunch of solar panels on our roof and it has considerably reduced our power costs.

I think some of the modern extensions to old buildings look a lot better than having modern "old style" extensions to old buildings. After all there is little point in having abuilding that looks pretty if it is not functional.
Depends, a lot of 'old style' extensions are just modern rubbish with a thin veneer of traditional style on that get everything wrong, like proportions, window frames etc.

[Psychosplodge]

Squirrel!

I know, and look at it's ickle paws in the air while it kicks out zzzzzzzzzs

[Wolfshade]

Depends, a lot of 'old style' extensions are just modern rubbish with a thin veneer of traditional style on that get everything wrong, like proportions, window frames etc.

Exactly that is my concern, if they are attached to Grade I listed buildings or near enough them then they need to be finished with appropriate materials fo the time. The problem being that the existing building has been weather for centuries, the new build looks modern, and it escalets the cost something aweful.

But even old conversions/extensions got things wrong. I know a church that is a medieval wooden church that is encased in brick and plaster to get it to look like it is in the Georgian style, c. 1730 but the windows are the wrong proportion, the arches are the wrong shape, and the pillars supporting the roof/ceiling block line of sight though the windows rather than being aligned so they they don';t.

[eldargal]

But after a decade or so they weather well enough to fit in, modern extensions just go out of fashion and look awful. Also the cost of new buildings and extensions in a traditional style aren't as costly as most people realise. Quinlan Terry shows it was possible to build office blocks in a Georgian style at a cost per square whatever equivalent to modern office blocks, for example.

[Wolfshade]

Don't forget that these classic buildings were modern when they were built. My experiance of building an in-style with matching materials building/extension has shown it to be horrendously more costly than building an elegant modern building.

This i think is a nice modern with old match.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/7907401624_ffef67ec19_o.jpg

Of course historically, they didn't really care about this preservation. They just extended in the current style or rebuilt the whole thing. While some of these edificies are very pretty, they are not always as original as people think.

[Psychosplodge]

I think I'd have preferred some sort of stone rather than red brick, but the glasswork works...

[eldargal]

Don't forget that these classic buildings were modern when they were built. My experiance of building an in-style with matching materials building/extension has shown it to be horrendously more costly than building an elegant modern building.
Except every traditional style was rooted in the past and drew from a common history. Palladian and Neo-classicism drew from the ancient world, Gothic Revival from the middle ages etc. The difference with Modernism is that it is built on a clean break with all architectural styles that came before it, resulting in this constant flux of ugliness that goes out of fashion within a decade or two and is demolished in a few more. To quote someone or other, nothing dates faster than peoples vision of the future. Modernism strives hard to be 'modern' all the time and as a result it goes out of fashion within years of buildings being built.

It's no coincidence that the conservation movement began as modernism kicked into full swing.

[Wolfshade]

I think I really meant contemporary rather than modern. But I don't disagree with you. But I do not think that the building should be hamstrung in the way it is wanted to be used, just to fulfil some requirement that externally it conforms to some concept that itself was changing while it was built.

I mean if you look on the inside of the picture I posted, it was complety gutted and restored to a uniform point in history during the victorian period. Previously there are saxon parts, norman parts then structural additions from every century till the 17th. So consequently you have two or three differnt arch styles throughout.

[Mr Mystery]

Modern architecture is an odd beast, but mostly when it's seen in isolation.

For instance, from my window here in South Quay Plaza, I can see Canary Wharf over the water. Lots of steel. Lots of Glass. Bit of stonework...but it works here. It's cohesive. There's no clash.

Then compare to the highstreet travesties. Whacking great lumps of concrete deposited into the middle of an otherwise twee area.... Ugly. Misshapen. Out of place!

[Wolfshade]

Birmingham had nice architecure then post WW2 came, what wasn't destroyed by the bombers, city planners and developers tore out and built some very nice buildsings like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Chamberlain_Square%2C_Birmingham_April_2007.jpg/800px-Chamberlain_Square%2C_Birmingham_April_2007.jpg

or

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Coppice_House%2C_Hollypiece_House_and_Homemeadow_H ouse.jpg/800px-Coppice_House%2C_Hollypiece_House_and_Homemeadow_H ouse.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

Mmmmm. Fugly.

Yet, worthy of conservation, simply because it's a spectacular example of 'what were we thinking?'.... Without needing Peter Kaye to point it out.

Also, new low point at work.....

Godwin's Law enacted in complaint documentation....First in just under a year I've seen!

[Psychosplodge]

Birmingham had nice architecure then post WW2 came, what wasn't destroyed by the bombers, city planners and developers tore out and built some very nice buildsings like this:


Same in Sheffield.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAG6beUdUUGgUmUFCohE7HlkPDA19ij PQCVtN_mbRviw2khesd

or

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/91/84/1918441_136d21b8.jpg

[eldargal]

I recommend reading Britains Lost Cities by Gavin Stamp. There are few things that trigger a genuine, patented Eldargal Berzerker Rage but reading that book is one of them. The Luftwaffe had nothing on modernist architects and corrupt, greedy city planners.

[Psychosplodge]

oh I missed a brilliant exampl, but at least it's gone now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/images/2009/03/31/peace_gardens_eggbox_470x365.jpg

I agree entirely it's far more the fault of town planners.

Though the replacement could have been better...

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6272718190_70283287d4_o.jpg

[Wolfshade]

Seems rather apt:

'Birmingham is almost a new city', wrote Ian Nairn after revisting the place in 1967. 'No other town in Britain except Croydon has changed its looks so radically'. With its enthusiasm for ring roads, motorways and for comprehensive redevelopment, Birmingham actively entered into the spirit of the 1960s more than any other city - apart from Glasgow perhaps. Victorian civic buildings and much else perished as Birmingham surrenedered to the motor car and the city centre was divided from the inner suburbs with a ring of wide roads, roundabouts and underpasses that obliged the mere pedestrian to cross either by dank passages or on bridges. But Birmingham's transofrmation was not born so uch of the self-hatred and disgust with the past that afflicted most of teh great Victorian cities of Britainl rather from optimism and vigour. As it has been in the past, Birmingham was to be the city of the future. In easy retrospect, it seems sad that so much of that optimism was misguided.

[eldargal]

Yep, I don't actually have a problem with Modernist architecture, some of it is very nice. But it should NEVER have been allowed to obliterate how towns and cities and be used to shove people into appalling concrete towers that did nothing but facilitate social alienation.

I <3 Gavin Stamp, one of the original Young Fogeys and all-round sensible chap.

[Wolfshade]

The social problems that he comments on are quite apt. There has been a concerted effort to push the car out, close those dark dank tunnels that formed barriers to sort things out. Once again it is trying to renew itself, but this time marginalise the car and increase pedestrian access. Tearing down those concrete 60s monstrosities building bleeding edge new design (which I don't like [like the upside ziggart is now replaced with this (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Library_of_Birmingham_March_2012.JPG/727px-Library_of_Birmingham_March_2012.JPG) and the new selfridge building (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Birmingham_Selfridges_building.jpg/467px-Birmingham_Selfridges_building.jpg)])

I might have to get this book, thanks eg.

[eldargal]

I've read it cover to cover once, now merely thinking about it is enough to make my blood boil.:rolleyes: Seriously, if I'm outside in winter and I'm cold I think about that book and I warm right back up. Unfortunate side effect is an overwhelming desire to kill city planners.

Wait, fortunate, not unfortunate.

[Wolfshade]

* EG casts fortune and doom *
[City Planners fail terror check]
...
Profit

[Psychosplodge]

The council being anti car is what killed our city centre.

[Mr Mystery]

For tasteful constant regeneration, might I recommend Edinburgh?

Yes, much has been lost. That's sadly inevitable. But the city centre is absolutely beautiful, having dodged the double bullet of systemic bombing during the war, and the advance of modernest architecture at the expense of historical.

Grew up there, and it's frankly stunning! Something you don't really appreciate until you visit other cities of course.

[Wolfshade]

There is a balance to play, in Brum, cars were given overiding priority and other forms were pushed out to make way for it. Even through the central precints, but intead they are looking to re-address this balance and push cars away from the very centre and have a large pedestrianised zone, with plenty of easily accessble car parks and bus stops to get people very close to but not the dead centre. What is needed is a proper integrated transport strategy.
Like we don't even have park and rides because the M6 goes to the A38(M) which drives you smack through the centre.

[Wildeybeast]

Derby City Council has a lot to answer for from the 60's and 70's, though they continue their fine tradition of stupid town planning right up until modern times. Examples include:

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/49/4941de01efb8053159ffd9f14d3c2d75.jpg
The plan to move (http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Seven-Stars-stayed-oldest-pub/story-11631762-detail/story.html#axzz2acqJxwV2)this 17th Century inn and rebuild it elsewhere to make way for the inner ring road (in the end they saw sense and simply put the road around it instead)

When the new Derby City Hospital was built a few years back, the existing Derbyshire Royal Infirmary was downgraded to a community hospital and much of the site was mothballed. An ambitious plan to develop a state of the art rehabilitation centre on the site was blocked when the council decided the two 70's tower blocks (which used to houses the nurses and have been a blot on the city's landscapes since the day they were built) were the 'only examples of that type of architecture in the city' and promptly made them listed buildings. As they are slap bang in the middle of the site, the council has effectively stopped any future development and turned it into yet another area for ne'er-do-wells to congregate.

[Psychosplodge]

You see we need the big carparks next to the pedestrian bit, and direct access to the main routes in/out the city centre.
As opposed the small car parks, off the one way system on the wrong side of the city centre from where most people come into the city...

[Wildeybeast]

Ooh, I almost forgot their most heinous crime, the destruction of St Alkmund's Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Alkmund's_Church,_Derby) for the sake of a bloody road. The fact they found the remains of a Saxon saint there tells you everything you need to know about the site.

Though to be fair to Derby City Council, such wanton destruction is hardly a new thing in the area. The Victorians found the remains of the Roman settlement of Derventium whilst building a new cricket pavilion and promptly built the pavilion on top of them.

[Psychosplodge]

the council decided the two 70's tower blocks (which used to houses the nurses and have been a blot on the city's landscapes since the day they were built) were the 'only examples of that type of architecture in the city' and promptly made them listed buildings. As they are slap bang in the middle of the site, the council has effectively stopped any future development and turned it into yet another area for ne'er-do-wells to congregate.

Did you miss the picture of park hill flats :D

We managed to replace this
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3529/3697199593_d4a30a622f_z.jpg?zz=1

with

http://www.picturenation.co.uk/image/view/preview/241825/cheesgrater-building-q

Ours built castle market(concrete cube) directly over the castle remains...

[Wolfshade]

I used to do the Yorkshire Grey sunday night pub quiz :(

[Mr Mystery]

The maniacs :(

I hate to see Pubs pulled down most of all. There's just no need for it, as long as the building is structurally sound.

Thankfully, Government now allow 'asset to the community' status. Local pub (threatened with developer led closure, despite being a respected business in the town) has applied for it. If granted, means it can only ever be a pub. Not redeveloped into houses. Not knocked down. Gutted and renovated inside yes. But still has to be a pub at the end of the day.

And I'm willing to say the vast majority of architect graduates were most likely not students, but ***king students. The pretentious little twerps.

[Psychosplodge]

We occasionally went in at lunch time if we were in that building opposite, or would use it as a meeting point at the start of a night...

[Wildeybeast]

The maniacs :(

I hate to see Pubs pulled down most of all. There's just no need for it, as long as the building is structurally sound.

Thankfully, Government now allow 'asset to the community' status. Local pub (threatened with developer led closure, despite being a respected business in the town) has applied for it. If granted, means it can only ever be a pub. Not redeveloped into houses. Not knocked down. Gutted and renovated inside yes. But still has to be a pub at the end of the day.

And I'm willing to say the vast majority of architect graduates were most likely not students, but ***king students. The pretentious little twerps.

I don't blame the architects. I blame the idiot on councils who allow such developments or worse still, commission it themselves.

[Mr Mystery]

Yet regeneration has to occur. And it's the moron architects who are making it look arse.

And artists. Take the new plinth in Trafalgar square. It's a big blue Chicken. Which apparently represent 'strength and regeneration'.

Evidentally, artist type, being foreign, has confused the word 'rubbish big blue chicken' with 'Hulk and Wolverine'

[DrLove42]

Modern art is such pretencious bollocks these days

There was a pub just off campus. Rough as a badgers ***, you wouldn't go in there unless you were looking to add a knife into the list of things inside you. But it was a 250 year old building.

Now its a car park. With a plaque and one original stone saying "This was the site of ...."

[Mr Mystery]

Thought....

Thread in News about GW's annual report.

Oddly....nobody this year saying they've faked it....and a marked lack of the usual whine brigade....

What gives?

[DrLove42]

Those comments are all in the comments section on the front page

[Mr Mystery]

Ah fair enough.

The usual 'HA! They've made a profit! That's the end of them then' drivel? Or have the branched out? I dread to look.

K. I looked.

So, one person on Dakka (that well known hot bed of reason intellectual debate) claims they're misrepresenting, and thus committing a crime, ergo it's true. And the 'debate' stems from that.

Oh dear.

[Wolfshade]

They obviously don't know how to run a company!

[Mr Mystery]

Indeed. To increase profits, you cut your price. Which clearly doesn't cut your profits. At all. Honest......

Bloody intertubes.

[Psychosplodge]

I question the sense of some decisions(the licensing as mentioned), and whether current trends are sustainable, but I'm mostly at the we'll see point now. It was interesting to see that it requires a higher turnover to return a smaller profit in the NA market than the UK.

I also question the sanity of the person that wrote the opening statement.

But apart from that, the figures themselves are actually quite good.

[Wolfshade]

Also don't forget GW make all their ideas work first time. There aren't any models which aren't sculpted/rules written that never see teh light of day.
And oil price increase only affects the cost of plastic that makes the miniatures.
And that they make too much profit and should do everything for free!

[DrLove42]

In other news - Spain has started taxing people for consuming sunlight

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/spain-levies-consumption-tax-on-sunlight.html?m=1

[Wolfshade]

I am sure that that will raise a flux of complaints...

[Psychosplodge]

They've not photon that very much have they?

[Wolfshade]

No. But I do hope that these ideas do not radiate to other countries.

[DrLove42]

You lot a terrible. None of these puns hold a candle to the quality i was expecting

[eldargal]

You're right, our usual punning eclipses our current efforts.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm glad you shone a light on this current sub par performance so it can be addressed.

[Wolfshade]

It is below the standard level of scintillation

[DrLove42]

Need a really good punner to come in and set a shining example for us to follow

[Kirsten]

so-lar-ceny is rife in Spain then

[Wolfshade]

I'm out of here

http://www.lolbrary.com/content/186/tearable-puns-18186.jpg

[eldargal]

Need a really good punner to come in and set a shining example for us to follow
I'm sure one will come along soon, it's always darkest before the dawn.

[Mr Mystery]

All these puns are most illuminating.

[eldargal]

All these puns are most illuminating.

Some of them have real flare.

[Mr Mystery]

Sparkling wit there EG!

[Mr Mystery]

Just be careful we don't burn out the puns!

[eldargal]

The solar punning does seem to have entered a twilight phase.

In other news, my kitties are having a conversation AND IT'S SO ADAWBLE!

[Aenir]

So one could say they are: Kitten Around? :D

[Wildeybeast]

I'm sure one will come along soon, it's always darkest before the dawn.

I've never understood where that phrase come from as it's actually quite light just before dawn. It's obviously darkest roughly half way between sunset and sunrise, though that is of course dependent on the lunar activity at the time. Thanks to the bizarre desire to persist with street lighting it's never really dark at all any more.

[DarkLink]

It is, however, coldest just before the dawn, usually.

[eldargal]

I've never understood where that phrase come from as it's actually quite light just before dawn. It's obviously darkest roughly half way between sunset and sunrise, though that is of course dependent on the lunar activity at the time. Thanks to the bizarre desire to persist with street lighting it's never really dark at all any more.
I think they mean the time before the it starts to get light in the lead up to dawn, but yes it is a stupid phrase. I've been out shooting before down and as you say it is usually very light.

[Wolfshade]

I've never understood where that phrase come from as it's actually quite light just before dawn. It's obviously darkest roughly half way between sunset and sunrise, though that is of course dependent on the lunar activity at the time. Thanks to the bizarre desire to persist with street lighting it's never really dark at all any more.

This reminds me of an amusing fact. Elephants raid farms when it is darkest, so at new moon they go a raidin' and on full moon they hide. They have worked out that they are more visibile in night.

I am slightly disappointed/relieved no one managed to work "black body" into a pun. Then it dawned on me why.

[daboarder]

It is, however, coldest just before the dawn, usually.

technically it would be coldest not just before dawn but at some point between the middle of the night and just before dawn. see at the middle of the night you would reach the point where the minimal energy from the sun would be reaching the earth. now that energy would start to heat things up, however due to physics such as quantum nature of light and the molar heat capacity that would take some time (while the system would be still losing heat at a faster rate than it was gaining it). However just before dawn the surface has likely been receiving that exponentially increasing quantity of energy for a sufficient period to be above its minimum temperature. Therefore its likely that the absolute minimum would lie somewhere between say midnight and dawn....I think, you'd likely need to crunch the numbers to be sure...but that seems about right

[Psychosplodge]

HAPPY YORKSHIRE DAY!!

1st August already :eek:

[Wolfshade]

There is an argument that it is coldest just after dawn, the minium temperature would occur just before the amount of incident engry from the sun is equal to the amount of energy is lost by the earth owing to radition. So in winter despite the sun rising it can continue to get colder because more energy is raditaed from the surface of the earth than is recieved from the sun. Though of course cloud cover completely screws up this simple scenario...

[eldargal]

Really fantastic video of Wil Wheaton explaining to an infant why it is awesome to be a nerd/geek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_BtmV4JRSc

[DrLove42]

I heart Will Wheaton so much. King of the Nerds!

I've seen the transcript of this, but not the video. he is right though

[Psychosplodge]

Now that's how you take a tooth out...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2lw7wpx.gif

[Wolfshade]

Poncy compound bow...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Compound bow ftw.

[DrLove42]

Owww. I'm lucky enough to have only ever had 1 tooth out and that was so my brace would fit...

[Wolfshade]

Psh, it is all about the recurve.

I've got to the point where I have to do part of my report that I have been putting off since last week. I am loosing options to distract me having used all my candy crush lives :(

[Psychosplodge]

I wish I could say the same doc.

I'm assuming that's a babytooth though in the gif.

Play robot unicorn attack wolfie?

[Wolfshade]

Better: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra

[Psychosplodge]

can't you do that too?

[Wolfshade]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3830361.ece

Maybe, almost finished..

[Psychosplodge]

finished?

[Wolfshade]

the task I have been avoiding.

[Psychosplodge]

oh I thought you were still looking to put it off.


Anyway...

With all these threads about boobs and skin colour on your models. Does anyone else prefer models with no skin on show? All my marines where there's an option for a head have a helmet. I prefer the SOB models with the helmets and hope a plastic release would give you the option for all helmets in a squad. I've got a full squad of older stormtroopers laying around all in gasmasks not just helmets.
Anybody? Or just me? :D

[Wolfshade]

I can't paint skin tone for toffee so I prefer fully enclosed miniatures :)

[Psychosplodge]

Aye, anything to avoid having to paint a face...

[Wolfshade]

Test Match Special mentions Yorkshire Day, a day for puddings!

They are talking about "Where's Wally" posters on dentist ceilings...

[Psychosplodge]

Oh mine has that one with loads of those smiley faces on.

Nah I'll be having yorkshire pudding tomorrow .

[eldargal]

I have the minimum bareheaded models in my armies actually.

[DrLove42]

Now i'm better at faces i do have more bare ones. Usually its a nice way to break up a squad, or designate a heavy weapon more easily.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

I've always felt that in the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, with planet-killing weapons going off all over the place and bloodthirsty warriors charging inexorably across the ground-down bones of the population, you might want to think about wearing your ****ing helmet.

Librarians and Marneus Calgar get a pass.

[Psychosplodge]

^ yeah that too

[Psychosplodge]

oh it's nice to know governments don't only (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23518590) plan to **** over the north in their London centric views

[Wolfshade]

I vote that we should de-annex london!

Actually maybe not: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23529298

[Mr Mystery]

LIQUID AWESOME IN AN AEROSOL FORM! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23528191)

[Psychosplodge]

They've been playing bits of it all morning on t'radio...

[Wolfshade]

LIQUID AWESOME IN AN AEROSOL FORM! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23528191)

See my immediately preceeding post :p

[eldargal]

Australia 180/3 in the 3rd test, grumble grumble.

[DrLove42]

Ah well....we can afford to lose one :P

[eldargal]

True but going by past experience we lose one, we fall to pieces and lose more.:rolleyes: Then the media whips itself into a frenzy of rage at our team and we get more talented county players saying 'fudge that, I'll stick to country cricket, at least I get money without being lynched when we lose' and the English team suffers for it.

[Mr Mystery]

It's only Cricket.

And in other news, I've had my busiest day at work for 2ish months today. Which is nice. And involved a great many brainyclevers.

[eldargal]

Exactly' it's only cricket, meaning eclipsed in importanceonly by the monarchy, ale, traditional food, tabletop wargaming and frogs.:p

[Kirsten]

implications for the religious organisations and paying out compensation
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/31/2388461/federal-judge-catholic-church-has-a-constitutional-right-not-to-compensate-victims-of-sex-abuse/

[Mr Mystery]

Exactly' it's only cricket, meaning eclipsed in importanceonly by the monarchy, ale, traditional food, tabletop wargaming and frogs.:p

And farting. And being burned alive. And hippo related nasal frottering.

[Kirsten]

oh em gee, on Netflix, Attack of the Crab Monsters!
my evening is sorted.

[Mr Mystery]

So, checked my credit report.

It's more or less what I expected. Barring an old Orange account, registered to a really old address.

Keen to sort out my credit and back on the level, seeking to contact them to discuss getting it paid off (can do it in September's pay packet, with a 'good will' payment from this month's. Possibly clear it).

Except, I don't know my old mobile number. And it seems I need that to speak to them, so I can confirm my identity and get this nailed. Gah!

[Deadlift]

Well that's my working week done. 8am to 11pm the last 5 days. I think thats a 75 hr working week lol. Tomorrow I'm treating myself to a £100 splurge on plastic crack. Might be some more Eldar or something to add to my Iron Warriors. Either way its a full English in the pub with the kids then off to the model shop.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My Contemptor has arrived!!

Où est l'ascenseur????!!!!????

[Psychosplodge]

Well that's my working week done. 8am to 11pm the last 5 days. I think thats a 75 hr working week lol. Tomorrow I'm treating myself to a £100 splurge on plastic crack. Might be some more Eldar or something to add to my Iron Warriors. Either way its a full English in the pub with the kids then off to the model shop.

So a couple of pots of paint, and a single character model then? ;)


My Contemptor has arrived!!


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIUzK-JZYnMSwxSEJ7fHadgXRnKnPzUZfo_T_76jyKZtresu-6eA

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I know right? :D

[Psychosplodge]

I expect it finished by the time I come back a week on Tuesday.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Painted and all?

[Psychosplodge]

it is ten days...

[Wolfshade]

Woah that is unrealistic, it has taken me 8 months to paint 3 of 10 tactical marines...

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah but look how excited he is about it, he might have the enthusiasm to do it.
I remember my landraider, it came home and was immediately built and painted...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

it is ten days...

Easy, I've been painting like a machine lately. Got a Tactical squad and a Terminator squad done.

Just building him now.

[DrLove42]

Whelp I have a nice day off work to run into town and do a billion things.

Then tomorrow, taking the wife to the Harry Potter tour thing in London. Should be a good weekend!

[Psychosplodge]

I wish I could find that motivation TDA.

Didn't they film most of it not in London Doc?

also so close

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mmsriu.gif

[Deadlift]

So I think I'm gonna get a wraith knight today, assuming they have them in the store. I need instant plastic gratification that ordering online just wont satisfy.

[Wolfshade]

Working from home, but I think I am doing it wrong, was up and working before my usual time and I'm not sat in my pants watching tv...

[Psychosplodge]

are you constantly supplied with tea?

[Psychosplodge]

lol
local radio have just inadvertently broadcast how to make explosives when discussing what people used to do in the summer holidays before games consoles...

[Mr Mystery]

Whelp I have a nice day off work to run into town and do a billion things.

Then tomorrow, taking the wife to the Harry Potter tour thing in London. Should be a good weekend!

I can has discount on that :p

[Wolfshade]

No tea :( but can raid the fridge

[Psychosplodge]

kettle not working?

[Kirsten]

Didn't they film most of it not in London Doc?
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mmsriu.gif

a lot of the hogwarts scenes were shot at Durham cathedral.

also what on earth is that car trying to do?

[Deadlift]

It's either a woman or an oap trying to park :p

[Psychosplodge]

No idea. But I assumed it was deliberate when it stops before the other car, then you realise the level of incompetence when it moves again...

I was thinking it :p

[Kirsten]

maybe the car is circling its' prey and then pounces for the kill

[eldargal]

It's either a woman or an oap trying to park :p
Or a man.

Women drivers have few accidents than male drivers.:p

[Psychosplodge]

No, they have less expensive ones like that one.

Men have proper accidents that write of half a dozen cars...

[eldargal]

So we will know who is replacing Matt Smith as The Doctor on Sunday apparently.

[Psychosplodge]

I don't think it's possible to find something I care less about.

[Kirsten]

astonishing that Berlusconi has the balls and stupidity to come out and denounce his prosecution when there is so much evidence against him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23544129

[Psychosplodge]

It's not balls when you're too stupid to think about it.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I wish I could find that motivation TDA.

He's built.

[Deadlift]

Quick question guys, which look better. Flesh Tearers or Blood Angels. ASAP please :D

[Psychosplodge]

pics?

both DL.

But I'd guess for airbrushing BA would be easier/quicker?

[Wildeybeast]

Flesh Tearers. Done.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Blood Angels, because they aren't played by, and their books aren't written by, the greatest gaping arseh0le to come out of Games Workshop.

@Psycho, go on Facebook, they're all in my Firestorm album.

[Deadlift]

Blood Angels, because they aren't played by, and their books aren't written by, the greatest gaping arseh0le to come out of Games Workshop.

Lol who's that matey ?

[Psychosplodge]

cool.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Andy Smillie, possibly the worst manager ever to befall Games Workshop Shrewsbury. A grumpy bast*rd who cared nothing for the hobby and just wanted to move product, if you hadn't bought anything then you couldn't do anything in store. He single-handedly made most of the regulars leave, some of them forever.
He was so awful at customer service that he is now not allowed to be in a store, he now writes for the Black Library, writing Flesh Tearer stories.

He's awful, just awful.

Every time I see anything Flesh Tearer I hate it.

[Deadlift]

Oh dear, I have read his book. I liked it :o

[Wolfshade]

Bangles all the way!

But flesh tearers I think would give more opportunity to do grimy/gory details, whereas Bangles I always imagine to be sparkly and cleann.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

He shall never be forgiven his trespass.
Never forgive, never forget.

[Psychosplodge]

http://i44.tinypic.com/ereia8.png

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'm not into any form of equine. They are all eye-exploding dicks.

[Mr Mystery]

3 weeks until it's Larp O'Clock!

Squee squee squee! Got a massive amount of keen for this year! 3rd year vet character, well rounded, and now a scorungy git. Which means I may be able to get my paws on some serious ming!

[Psychosplodge]

Mystery,

6 DAYS TILL BLOODSTOCK!

[Mr Mystery]

Lame.

Unless Iron Maiden are playing. In which case it's cool.

Been playing 'The Number of the Beast' a lot recently. Such an awesome album!

Well. That and some Sparks. And some T-Rex. And some Wedding Present. And Toy Dolls. And well, lots of eclectic stuff on my phone!

[Psychosplodge]

Slayer are headlining, plus lamb of God and King Diamond.

[Kirsten]

a paedophile has been arrested in a sting operation and the judge said 'I take into account that you are previously of good character'
I wonder what it takes to be considered of bad character.

[Psychosplodge]

Isn't everybody of previously good character till they're caught?

[Kirsten]

I assume so

[Psychosplodge]

So it's a ridiculous thing to offer leniency for.

[eldargal]

Woo! Tomb Raider sequel confirmed (http://www.gamespot.com/news/next-gen-tomb-raider-sequel-confirmed-by-square-enix-6412371?tag=nl.e607&s_cid=e607&ttag=e607).

[Deadlift]

So it's a ridiculous thing to offer leniency for.

I wouldn't worry too much, just comes in all shapes and sizes.

[Mr Mystery]

So it's a ridiculous thing to offer leniency for.

Stuart Hall.

It seems the bigger the age gap, the less time you do?

[eldargal]

Hall had his sentence doubled to 30 months, so relieved that raping a little girl is worth two months off your life instead of one.

[Mr Mystery]

I'm depressed raping anyone is worth two month off you life instead of one :(

[eldargal]

Yep. It's just kind of ridiculous when we are apparently going to censor the entire internet unless people opt out to protect the children (!!) but if you're an old white guy convicted of raping a small hoard of young girls you'll only lose 30 months off your life.

[Kirsten]

David Cameron's porn filter may throw up other issues
http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/camerons-porn-filters-could-theoretically-block-games-too/

[Wolfshade]

a paedophile has been arrested in a sting operation and the judge said 'I take into account that you are previously of good character'
I wonder what it takes to be considered of bad character.

He did all that work for children's charities...

[Mr Mystery]

David Cameron's porn filter may throw up other issues
http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/camerons-porn-filters-could-theoretically-block-games-too/

My main concern is that's just a crowd pleaser (though which crowd, I suspect that to be the moral minority) soundbite that's easy to follow through on, but impossible for any following government to overturn.

Absolutely no need for the filter. Push individual parental responsibility instead. Limit interwebs time. No web capable device outside of the communal rooms. Issue. Solved.

[Wildeybeast]

The crowd is the Daily Mail (http://www.drake.org.uk/2012/05/daily-mails-war-on-online-porn-dacre-heal-thyself/) readership apparently.

[Psychosplodge]

look at all that sideboob...;)

Apparently their websites even worse.

[Mr Mystery]

IF there was ever a safe category for eugenics, reading the Daily Mail would be it. You're just too brainless to be allowed to breed.

[Psychosplodge]

I think we could equally apply that argument to any red top, plus the guardian really...

[eldargal]

The Guardian at least believes in something, for all it's nonsensical bollocks at times. They have been running a lot of really good articles about misogyny and institutional sexism even in video game culture, I've been quite impressed. The Daily Mail just peddles hypocritical filth.

[Psychosplodge]

I don't trust any off the papers tbh.

Red tops - look at z listers cellulite
daily mail - ban everything think of the children
guardian - ban different everything and climate change
express - diana alien conspiracy

everyday pretty much

mystery this (http://applepone.tumblr.com/post/57156424320) might help in your quest for anime

[Wildeybeast]

What about the Times, Telegraph, Observer & Independent. They seem to be missing from your list. Oh and the Metro. Though that is probably so inane as to be utterly devoid of anything which could be classed as 'opinion'. Or 'reporting' for that matter. TBH, saying it contains news is a stretch.

[Mr Mystery]

Metro is just the Daily Fail's gateway drug. The cannabis to their crack if you will.

Independent is a decent paper. No real agenda other than reporting. Not to say that renders it balanced, but its a start.

[Kirsten]

Telegraph is fine if you stick to the news and avoid the opinion pieces by and large.

[Kirsten]

hurrah, ork warboss on bike completed in a flash of inspiration. a flash drawn out over several hours.

[Mr Mystery]

You can do eet!

[Wolfshade]

I don't trust any off the papers tbh.

I used to read the daily mail but it was too left wing for me...

[Mr Mystery]

I used to read the daily mail but it was too left wing for me...

Godwin's Law?

[Kirsten]

HG Wells invented Warhammer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22777029

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth is £4.49 on Steam...

I've been watching Robbaz play it and I found it amusing.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

The Guardian is probably the best newspaper. That doesn't mean it's a good newspaper, note.

I mostly read it for the football/cricket coverage, which is top notch, and 'cos they've got Marina Hyde and Glenn Greenwald, who are great.

All newspapers are trying to spin you a line. It all just depends on what spin you prefer.

[Wildeybeast]

Couldn't find the Dr Who thread (I seem incapable of operating the search function of this website) so it can go here. Live reveal of the new Dr, BBC One 7pm (BST) today.

[Mr Mystery]

Yup! Stoked for that!

Also, I've just arranged a game at Warhammer World when I'm up for a dirty night out!

[Mr Mystery]

The bookies were quite correct!

Peter Capaldi is the new Doctor. Which is frankly an awesome choice!

[Cap'nSmurfs]

One of my all-time favourite actors. A+ choice.

[Mr Mystery]

Yup.

Plus it's pleasing to have an older Doctor once again. He's at his best when he's in a sort of Uncle type role! And it all helps wash away the unnecessary romantic excesses of the T Davies years (always thankful he brought it back, but he so nearly ruined it!)

[Cap'nSmurfs]

It'll be especially good if as anticipated he's going to be a Doctor who has properly confronted his past for the first time since the Time War.

[Mr Mystery]

Man I wish they'd bring back the Time Lords! Fed up with the lack of them!

[Wolfshade]

Psh, never cared for Dr Who.

Brilliant Top Gear episode, felt quite patriot!

Exciting times, I've two weeks to get my house ready to before it goes on the market.

[Kirsten]

Seen Blade 2 multiple times, only just noticed that one of the vampires is Danny John-Jules. now I can't take him seriously.

[Deadlift]

Psh, never cared for Dr Who.

Brilliant Top Gear episode, felt quite patriot!

Exciting times, I've two weeks to get my house ready to before it goes on the market.

To be honest the only way I would watch Dr Who is if they made Bill Bailey the time lord.

[Wolfshade]

Seen Blade 2 multiple times, only just noticed that one of the vampires is Danny John-Jules. now I can't take him seriously.

Kat turns up in really bizare things, I remember seeing him in some Kids TV show though I can't recall if it was some fevered dream


To be honest the only way I would watch Dr Who is if they made Bill Bailey the time lord.
I would watch that

[Kirsten]

he does yeah, odd things here and there

I am watching Mega Piranha. award for worst acting ever goes to... every single person in the film.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I would watch that

Thirded.

[eldargal]

Icelandic Incest Prevention App (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/18/business-iceland-geneaology-smartphone-app.html)




Cat appeared in Maid Marian and her Merry Men, which was a kids show. Very good though. Recently he was in Death in Paradise.

[Wolfshade]

Maid Marian was brilliant. I imagine it would appeal to your feminist sensibilities.

Of course incest is the new taboo...

[eldargal]

Yup, waiting for the Dee Vee Dees arrive.:cool:

[DrLove42]

Annoyed as hell today about the Eldar FW stuff.

Good weekend. The Harry Potter studio tour is awesome.

[eldargal]

FWs attitude to eldar is vexing. "We sell lots of Warp Hunters and Lynxes, they must be OP! Let's nerf them to ****. Oh and Marines need another AV14 all around vehicle with more firepower than the Death Star, see to it people!"

[Wolfshade]

Oh happy monday one and all. :) Today's breakfast consisted of a belgian bun. I've discovered that I can't bench press what I could a decade ago, shock. And the tv is now all agog with the football yay! . I think today I shall mostly be doing a rain dance re: ashes.

[eldargal]

Hur, I read that as 'Belgian Nun'.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh dear...

[Wolfshade]

Tasty, though as belgian as Poirot

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/mama-luke.jpg

I also have a new project, convince Mrs Wolf to allow me to have motorbike, it isn't going well...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Clearly need a more silver tongue.

[eldargal]

Or regular tongue, hur.

Motorcycles, natures organ donor facilitation unit.

[Wolfshade]

Clearly need a more silver tongue.

Silver bullets would be the answer...

Perhaps showing her how much I am worth dead sin't reassuring...

[Wolfshade]

Or regular tongue, hur.

Motorcycles, natures organ donor facilitation unit.

[creepy internet voice] You can have my 'organ' any time hur [/creepy internet voice]

I know it is crazy dangerous, but then again so is cycling which I do now and I've not died yet.

[Mr Mystery]

I have this beauty parked outside my window today...

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4656011958486629&pid=1.7

Very nice view.

[eldargal]

My view consists of KITTEHS!

[Mr Mystery]

My view's better.

Already considering an act of Piracy.

Subdue crew, and sail the Italian beauty to Southampton. Claim prize money. Retire.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My view is... My room.

[Mr Mystery]

You've not been put in solitary again have you TDA?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I wish...

[DrLove42]

Southampton is lovely.

[Wolfshade]

My view is a car park, some over grown hedges/trees on lamp, some over head electricy cables, the building next door and a grey sky.

[eldargal]

*walks in front of mirror*

Better view.:cool:

#narcissism