Adepta Sororitas, Sisters of Battle Rumours

[Wolf of Winter]

So I'm just scoping out the new Raging Heroes Kickstarter that just went up (and already blew past their goal) and I can't help but think that GW are missing a boat here somewhere. The RH minis are stunning! I know that they are a lot 'finer' than GW minis, but this surely must be proof that there are people out there who want their Sisters (or proxies thereof)? Frustrating isn't the word!!!!!

[Kirsten]

I am liking the Raging Heroes sisters, but I wouldn't field them myself, they are too ornate and gothic. The GW sisters are more utilitarian.

[Wolf of Winter]

I am liking the Raging Heroes sisters, but I wouldn't field them myself, they are too ornate and gothic. The GW sisters are more utilitarian.

I feel that some of the RH minis (especially in this new campaign) look like they stepped straight out of the Witch Hunters Codex. That's what I liked about the SoB was the fact they were ornate and a little over the top. Something that made them stand apart from your regular power-armored troops. That said... it's be a little crazy painting a few dozen squads of these lol!

[Kirsten]

I am still waiting for my first kickstarter ladies to arrive. I will probably skip this campaign and get a few odds and ends at retail when I can see the sculpts. I can definitely see a potential warrior priest or two in there.

I do wonder whether development of the admech skitarii has helped the sisters. there were rumours that the robe sleeves on the sisters were causing problems. the skitarii have sleeves of varying lengths, so that might bode well.

[zanth]

I backed it, it'd be cool to get some mroe affordable stuff to flesh out some squads and add some variety. Sadly I didn't get any SoB models until there was only one variant remaining of most models, so I have a ton of identical troops.

[DrBored]

The saints in that Kickstarter are phenomenal. I couldn't believe them when I saw them.

That said, I'm not going to support it. They clearly have their support, but the problem remains: the aesthetic of these models is very much 'pin-up look at my bare chest and hips', whereas GW's models don't go there. Even the Dark Eldar Wyches actually look like they're about to strike at something, instead of posing for a photo shoot with a fan blowing their hair in just the right way.

[Wolf of Winter]

The saints in that Kickstarter are phenomenal. I couldn't believe them when I saw them.

That said, I'm not going to support it. They clearly have their support, but the problem remains: the aesthetic of these models is very much 'pin-up look at my bare chest and hips', whereas GW's models don't go there. Even the Dark Eldar Wyches actually look like they're about to strike at something, instead of posing for a photo shoot with a fan blowing their hair in just the right way.

I'll certainly agree with you there. That said there are some pretty spiffy poses that really do look like they are about to go in swinging. There is a fine line for sure with making something look seductive (ala Daemonettes) but at the same time kinda terrifying, and then having something that looks like its from a cheesecake magazine shoot.

I still think that RH are exploiting the obvious hole in the market that GW is choosing to ignore though, and fair play to them if they make bank on it!

[DrBored]

I'll certainly agree with you there. That said there are some pretty spiffy poses that really do look like they are about to go in swinging. There is a fine line for sure with making something look seductive (ala Daemonettes) but at the same time kinda terrifying, and then having something that looks like its from a cheesecake magazine shoot.

I still think that RH are exploiting the obvious hole in the market that GW is choosing to ignore though, and fair play to them if they make bank on it!

Oh yeah, absolutely. If RH can get all their models out before Games Workshop, they'll have lost a significant portion of that market. All that will be left will be people that are just really loyal to GW and their aesthetic.

Unless GW can come up with some absolutely killer models for their Sisters of Battle that blow RH's stuff out of the water :P

[Brother Sister]

Oh yeah, absolutely. If RH can get all their models out before Games Workshop, they'll have lost a significant portion of that market. All that will be left will be people that are just really loyal to GW and their aesthetic.

Unless GW can come up with some absolutely killer models for their Sisters of Battle that blow RH's stuff out of the water :P

I backed the first and the second RH. I'll be using them for anything but the basic sisters, and I absolutely love the sculpts. This whole thing with people turning their nose up at them because they are too aesthetic (or sexualised as they call them) is something I cannot get behind. I find them to be completely badass, and who wouldn't pose if they looked that good. and they're fixed miniatures. the guy eternally throwing a handgrenade looks at least as silly as the RH girl doing the Sailor Moon spin.

GW missed a lot of sales on allowing this to happen (we've been waiting for the sisters for years.) and RH pushing this second kickstarter was absolutely in response to the rumours of sisters in May.
If RH release was what pushed the GW release of sisters to the front, which it very well could have done, then we have RH to thank for a lot of things.

I for one welcome our new RH overlords.

[Havik110]

Oh yeah, absolutely. If RH can get all their models out before Games Workshop, they'll have lost a significant portion of that market. All that will be left will be people that are just really loyal to GW and their aesthetic.

Unless GW can come up with some absolutely killer models for their Sisters of Battle that blow RH's stuff out of the water :P

sad thing is gw might just squat them to say FU to raging heroes...

that said, i am in the kickstarted for the sisters, but I also like the looks of the DE hemo and wrack equivalents and the incubi equivalents...

I want to see more renders and not just concept art

[Kirsten]

GW really wont

[Arkhan Land]

agreed, but my concern is at this point GW has either got to sort of take the damage done or do something so revolutionary it almost makes the old army options/weapons pointless in favor of their new models, i.e. unique sisters vehicles/weapons.

Personally aside from the immediate sisters line ide really like plastic deathcult/crusaders

[eldargal]

I think an all plastic range will be revolutionary enough. RH stuff is still going to be resin and metal and their prices are similar to GWs. Cheaper usually, when it comes to plastic troops.

[Kirsten]

There hasn't been any damage done. Raging Heroes are resin and metal, and a different style. Wont stop people buying plastic sisters

[Cutter]

There hasn't been any damage done. Raging Heroes are resin and metal, and a different style. Wont stop people buying plastic sisters

Yeah, the RH are very nice, but I'm happy to wait for plastic.

[zanth]

There hasn't been any damage done. Raging Heroes are resin and metal, and a different style. Wont stop people buying plastic sisters

Not at all. I'm buying into RH, but I will buy the crap out of any new official plastics. You can never have too many sergeants, special/heavy weapons or basic troops. I just want some variety in my troops, and plastic official models will only enhance that further.

[Charon]

There hasn't been any damage done. Raging Heroes are resin and metal, and a different style. Wont stop people buying plastic sisters

Depends. The not-seraphim look very nice and the not-daemonettes look like the models gw had prior to the current ones which just look soo much better.
Do not think I would buy a lot of GW sisters / Slaanesh with them around.

[DrBored]

Depends. The not-seraphim look very nice and the not-daemonettes look like the models gw had prior to the current ones which just look soo much better.
Do not think I would buy a lot of GW sisters / Slaanesh with them around.

If I was going to start a Slaanesh army, I would totally go with Raging Heroes.

But for Adepta Sororitas, I'm sticking with Games Workshop. When it comes to their design aesthetic, I would expect space nuns to be more robust, not posing for a Space-Summer Space-Swimsuit Space-Magazine.

[nekogunner]

Immolator is listed as "No Longer Available / Sold Out" on the the UK GW site.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Immolator

[Wolf of Winter]

Immolator is listed as "No Longer Available / Sold Out" on the the UK GW site.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Immolator

This could possibly mean they are pulling it to up the price :p, or even repackage maybe? It's still showing a available on the US webstore. Sadly I don't think it really means anything in terms of us getting new Sisters. Sad face.

[Path Walker]

It either means a repack or its never coming back, or its a mistake, no way we can tell just from that.

[Revarien]

As much as I want it to be a good sign, I'm not going to burden myself with hope this time - been burned too many times in the last... well... since I started warhammer 40k years and years and years ago.

[daboarder]

She's dead jim


The question........
Just wanted to know whether the Adepta Sororitas Immolator actually is no longer available or just out of stock?

I was planning on buying a couple but was bummed out when I couldn't.

I also have another Adepta Sororitas related question. I need some backpacks for my battle sisters. I know you stopped with the bitz service years ago! However, I wanted to ask anyway if you could be helpful in any way of me aquiring a couple of backpacks when I place an order?

Lets toss in another question while I'm at it. Rules questions, where do I direct these nowadays?

Thank you!
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The Answer...........
Hi,

Thanks for the Email - Unfortunately the Immolator is classed as no longer available - this usually means at the moment we have no plans to reproduce it - however as we are not part of the decision making process here in customer service ( it's kept top secret!!)
Please keep an eye on the Website and or in White Dwarf for news on releases, we usually get to know at the last minute too.
As regards the backpacks I can ask around but I can't promise any - as you say the bits service is no longer done - we would need to find an opened box in the warehouse.

For rules questions please send an email to [email protected]

Thanks and Kind Regards,

Faeit212

[Revarien]

Not to mention the Forgeworld repressor model has been out of stock (they said broken mold, which either means it either wore out or they broke it intentionally to not make more ((as they do when they're done with molds)) ) for the last year. The only glimmer of hope would be that they're combining the 2 models into a single box, but that would mean producing Sisters stuff and I'm not holding my breath for any good news for my army.

Sad thing is, I'd drop 500+ on new models (even though I already have 4k+ points worth).

[Wolf of Winter]

As much as I want it to be a good sign, I'm not going to burden myself with hope this time - been burned too many times in the last... well... since I started warhammer 40k years and years and years ago.

HA! aint that the truth! Honestly, everything that could possibly be said about our beloved Sisters has already been said, but it still irks me to no end that they've been left to fade away, much like the space stunties... I'm beginning to think that that whole "we're having problems with the molds because of the details" or whatever it was, was just a load of official bollocks. looking at the advances they've made with their plastics (even if the minis outside of troops are one-pose, and not-as-customizable-as-we'd-like-them-to-be) I'm still sure there would be no problem them actually producing plastic Sisters, they just don't want to because they believe there isn't a big enough fan base. Knickers, I say!

>end huffy rant<

[Arkhan Land]

Im willing to bet the dream is dead

Truly a total guess but If the future is anything like the past theyll be part of a three or four (hopefully dual build) kit Inquisition release, able also to be built as acolytes/crusaders/sororitas with second kit some units in the flack/robed kit aka your priests/mystics/psykers/non-jokaero tech specialists repentus/flaggelants/death cult ***'n all in another

Immolator simply becomes a choice for the inquisition rhino, legacied in for decades to come like the twin-plas-las of yesteryear (until a FW update of course).

give them a dual build for the Pent Eng

call it funeral

[nekogunner]

Looks like it was a mistake on GW's part. The immolator is back in stock after apparently being mistakenly labeled as no longer in production when it was meant to be labeled as out of stock.

All hail the barely supported expensive metal army!

[Dalleron]

This thread should be closed locked and buried in the earths core. We can start a new one if/when something credible pops up. Im not holding my breath for new sisters codex.

[Ruleslawyer]

Looks like it was a mistake on GW's part. The immolator is back in stock after apparently being mistakenly labeled as no longer in production when it was meant to be labeled as out of stock.

All hail the barely supported expensive metal army!

That's a relief, the soritas army is one of my slow builds(just adding units but not expecting anything good rules wise)

[zanth]

And, as of the Forgeworld Website revamp, the Repressor is no longer listed at all.

[nekogunner]

I e-mailled them a couple weeks ago before the site overhaul and they replied with:

The Repressor was taken off sale as we needed to carry out extensive re-mastering work on the kit. Periodically master models need some work so we can continue to produce moulds, this means we have to take the products of sale for a short time to replace and repair the master models and then produce new moulds. The amount of time this takes depends on many factors including the level of detail in the model and the level of work the designers and mould makers already have scheduled. Unfortunately this means we can not give an accurate estimate of how long they will be unavailable for."

[zanth]

I e-mailled them a couple weeks ago before the site overhaul and they replied with:

The Repressor was taken off sale as we needed to carry out extensive re-mastering work on the kit. Periodically master models need some work so we can continue to produce moulds, this means we have to take the products of sale for a short time to replace and repair the master models and then produce new moulds. The amount of time this takes depends on many factors including the level of detail in the model and the level of work the designers and mould makers already have scheduled. Unfortunately this means we can not give an accurate estimate of how long they will be unavailable for."

They told me that about a year ago. I don't have much hope. :(

[daboarder]

If it makes you feel better there are a number of conversion tutorials on how to turn an rhino/immolator into a repressor online

[nekogunner]

They told me that about a year ago. I don't have much hope. :(

For what model, the exorcist? The repressor was still available a year ago. I know because I ordered one. :-P

I know it's been out of stock since January-ish at least because I was looking at ordering another one around then. You can always e-mail them yourself and see what kind of reply you get and post back here. The one I got was about 1-2 weeks before the new forgeworld site came online and the repressor was removed completely.

[zanth]

If it makes you feel better there are a number of conversion tutorials on how to turn an rhino/immolator into a repressor online

I'm really bad at custom modeling, but I'm certainly willing to give this a shot. Are there any in particular you know of that may be better? If not, no worries, I'll certainly check around.


For what model, the exorcist? The repressor was still available a year ago. I know because I ordered one. :-P

I know it's been out of stock since January-ish at least because I was looking at ordering another one around then. You can always e-mail them yourself and see what kind of reply you get and post back here. The one I got was about 1-2 weeks before the new forgeworld site came online and the repressor was removed completely.

Ok, the e-mail was in early January, my bad, but they had been "out of stock" for several months already at that point. I think it may have been September by the time I actually looked at Forgeworld.

[mafiacheese]

While in-store today making purchases to qualify for the "win your dream army" raffle, it was heavily hinted to me that Sisters on Bikes are coming out this year. Further, this employee informed me that they had seen the sculpts already, and that they're due out in November. Beyond that, I have nothing else, but if anyone else can substantiate that claim, I'm sure that there will be several Sisters players out there who will be rather excited!

[Kirsten]

would be nice. entirely possible they will be out this year, you never know

[Cap'nSmurfs]

I so badly want this to be true but I'm beyond hoping by this point.

[Kirsten]

it will happen at some point, we have had mechanicum, harlequins, and genestealer cults after all

[Haighus]

I really hope it will be true... but I don't have much hope. As Kirsten says though, we have had a few armies out of the blue recently, Knights (and Militarum Tempestus and plastic Assassins to a degree) as well as the ones mentioned, so there is a reasonable chance in the near future. Perhaps Inquisition too. I feel they would also be great, as they would work really well with the plastic clampack system GW is very fond of at the moment.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Sisters are the one "instant buy" for me, always wanted to collect em' but I hate metal so I've always waited for them to come out in plastic.

[Kirsten]

likewise

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Thirded

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Fourthed!

[zanth]

While in-store today making purchases to qualify for the "win your dream army" raffle, it was heavily hinted to me that Sisters on Bikes are coming out this year. Further, this employee informed me that they had seen the sculpts already, and that they're due out in November. Beyond that, I have nothing else, but if anyone else can substantiate that claim, I'm sure that there will be several Sisters players out there who will be rather excited!

I want this to be true this time so bad.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Huge dose of salt aside, i'd love that.

[BlackTalos]

This might not be backing up, but Forgeworld staff confirmed (not Rumours) that they had Sisters of Silence (Horus Heresy) planned for their 7th Book. (Old info from last year but to me in person)

As Book 6 was February, I can see Sisters of Silence coming with Book 7 in November.

Why am I saying this?
Forgeworld Sisters of Silence on Grav-Bikes is much more plausible than GW Sisters of Battle plastic bikes on sprue....

7th Book: – Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Sisters of Silence/Sororitas Silentum, Custodes (Prospero story)

[zanth]

This might not be backing up, but Forgeworld staff confirmed (not Rumours) that they had Sisters of Silence (Horus Heresy) planned for their 7th Book. (Old info from last year but to me in person)

As Book 6 was February, I can see Sisters of Silence coming with Book 7 in November.

Why am I saying this?
Forgeworld Sisters of Silence on Grav-Bikes is much more plausible than GW Sisters of Battle plastic bikes on sprue....

7th Book: – Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Sisters of Silence/Sororitas Silentum, Custodes (Prospero story)

If this is true, that would be the perfect time for GW to launch an update to the Sororitas codex.

[Patrick Boyle]

If this is true, that would be the perfect time for GW to launch an update to the Sororitas codex.

Why? The only connection between the two forces is they're composed of women and have 'Sisters' in the name. There's no other real link between them that I'm aware of.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Patrick is correct, the Sisters of Silence are a completely different faction - http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sisters_of_Silence

It will be great to see the Silent Sisterhood in model form though, one of the few heresy era factions I'm interested in.

[grimmas]

The Adepta are weak sauce in comparison to the Sisters of Silence who were instrumental in giving the Thousand Sons a kicking.

[zanth]

Why? The only connection between the two forces is they're composed of women and have 'Sisters' in the name. There's no other real link between them that I'm aware of.

My apologies, I misread part of that post. Unless, of course, they make their 30k units usable with SoB in 40k as relics or something. Either way, I'm grabbing the 7th book for Space Wolves, if the Sisters of Silence are in there, bonus.

[Path Walker]

My apologies, I misread part of that post. Unless, of course, they make their 30k units usable with SoB in 40k as relics or something. Either way, I'm grabbing the 7th book for Space Wolves, if the Sisters of Silence are in there, bonus.

To make them useable for both you're either looking at a major redesign of the Sororitas or a very different look for the Sisters of Silence than the few bits of artwork we've had for them, they've really not got a lot in common other than being female.

[BlackTalos]

My apologies, I misread part of that post. Unless, of course, they make their 30k units usable with SoB in 40k as relics or something. Either way, I'm grabbing the 7th book for Space Wolves, if the Sisters of Silence are in there, bonus.

Yeah, Silence sisters and Battle sisters are quite separate from each other, hence my earlier post:

I'm attributing the recent rumors of "New Sisters" (and bikes) to FW and the Sisters of Silence.

I.e. I don't think there's any Sisters of Battle coming anytime soon... Though it is our dearest wish!
Sisters rumors never go anywhere unless there are physical pictures lol
Not for me anyway :p

[Mr Mystery]

Potential clarification....

I was in the Heresy seminar yesterday at Warhammerfest.

Sisters of Silence are coming in book VII, which should be out toward the end of this year. And I think I heard Tony Cotterrel mention they have a bike unit - so it could be rumours of SoB bikers are confused.

However, I can't say for certain I heard what I heard.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

thanks for that, MrMystery - ill probably save up for Sisters of silence as iv always loved the idea of the blanks/pariahs. Will probably take till the end of the year for me to save up for them too so thats really great to know.

Really hope the Sisters of battle come out eventually though.

[Path Walker]

At today's Black Library event, James Swallow said he'd like to go back and do a book about the sisters of battle, nothing else about those sisters was mentioned though.

[Psychosplodge]

Who authored the last SoB book?

After searching the black library
It was him. Do you mean he wants to continue his existing story?

[eldargal]

I loved those books, I hope he does continue them.

[Psychosplodge]

Did he only do two? Wasn't it supposed to be a trilogy?

Yeah I would love to see more of them.

[eldargal]

I think just two, I don't know if it was supposed to be a trilogy or not.

[Psychosplodge]

I feel like I always expected a third. But it wouldn't be the first supposed trilogy that the BL never finished.

[Path Walker]

Don't think it was intended to be a trilogy and he didn't indicate what he'd want to do just that if he had the time and was allowed to choose a book to write, it would be in that area. Laurie Goulding and the authors there all had a good laugh about a few other series that had failed to materalise another book. Mostly the Bequin trilogy, Laurie suggested we all email Dan Abnett and let him know we're waiting! They all seemed to think it wasn't worth bothering asking ADB to get a move on with the next Abaddon book as nothing speeds that man up.

[zanth]

Well, more rumours than ever again, and a few more models dropped out of availability in the Sisters range on the GW website. Can't quite recall what's missing now, however.

[Rissan4ever]

I deeply hope the plastic Sisters rumors are true. My Imperial Guard collection is pretty much complete. If I were to ever pick up a second army, Sisters would be it.

[zanth]

I'd like to hope the mention of plastic Sisters of Battle in the Magnus the Red reveal is a confirmation. I guess we shall see in the coming several months.

[Wolf of Winter]

OK, so I just got an email from Blood of Kittens this morning saying about leaked info for a new codex coming out: Imperial Agents. New rules for GK, Inquisition, Sisters of Battle, and other forces, and also something about rules for generating henchmen retinues again. Not sure if this has been brought up elsewhere, but I'd figured I'd share it :) it also mentions a resin Canoness? color me excited!

Source: http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2016/12/05/codex-imperial-agents-leak-compilation/

[Rissan4ever]

That sounds fabulous. The Inquisition has been needing an update for a while now, and to pack in Adeptus Sororitas, too is a good move. I hope this rumor is true, because I would definitely buy that book.

[Wolf of Winter]

That sounds fabulous. The Inquisition has been needing an update for a while now, and to pack in Adeptus Sororitas, too is a good move. I hope this rumor is true, because I would definitely buy that book.

Right there with you!! could Games Workshop finally win me back? we'll see... lol!

[Solution9]

So this will sound like a dumb question but if the SoB are rolled into this Imperial Agents codex does that mean 1) A new codex for the SoB from the ground up and 2) Is it just big enough of a codex to be only as allies? I'm just confused as to what this Imperial Agents codex is exactly. That is if anyone knows at this point.

[Morgrim]

So this will sound like a dumb question but if the SoB are rolled into this Imperial Agents codex does that mean 1) A new codex for the SoB from the ground up and 2) Is it just big enough of a codex to be only as allies? I'm just confused as to what this Imperial Agents codex is exactly. That is if anyone knows at this point.

Neither. This codex lets small units of SoB be taken by an Inquisitor, but doesn't overwrite or modify the existing digital codex. So a new codex specifically for Sisters of Battle could come out, and it'd affect this codex, but this codex doesn't affect the SoB one.

Basically this codex is a cluster of Imperial allies and mostly Inquisitors+.

[Solution9]

Cool thanks for clarifying that.

[Wolf of Winter]

19430

Resin commemorative edition? It came up on my Instagram feed...

[zanth]

Right. By all I've seen it's mostly meant for adding small detachments to your other Imperium Armies, not much of a codex for anything. But I have read that there are a lot of updated rules for existing models, so there might be some updates for Sisters stuff. I would also assume there will be rules for Veridya in the book.

[Brenlak]

Have you seen the prices of the models on GW website? Heres hoping for a start collecting box...

[BlackTalos]

Neither. This codex lets small units of SoB be taken by an Inquisitor, but doesn't overwrite or modify the existing digital codex. So a new codex specifically for Sisters of Battle could come out, and it'd affect this codex, but this codex doesn't affect the SoB one.

Basically this codex is a cluster of Imperial allies and mostly Inquisitors+.

19440

Looks like a bit more than "a few units" to me ;)

[zanth]

19440

Looks like a bit more than "a few units" to me ;)

Yeah, I've found more info since that this is basically the new Codex for Sisters & Inquisition. RIP Celestine. No new models with this book. Veridya's rules are in her box, not in the Codex. Formations look decent, but I'm disappointed with this release.

[Ray Rivers]

19430

Resin commemorative edition? It came up on my Instagram feed...

Ya know... I almost decided to return to WH40K with the release of this miniature.

But given how they have decided to sell it, with the constant "out of stock" and "email" crap... I said *** it.

[Wolf of Winter]

Ya know... I almost decided to return to WH40K with the release of this miniature.

But given how they have decided to sell it, with the constant "out of stock" and "email" crap... I said *** it.

I was right there with you, until exactly the same thing. Why should they make it so difficult to get us to throw money at them? Additionally I really thought this was the beginning of plastic sisters, but yet again we Sisters players get the middle finger so, GW still gets zero dollars from me.

[BlackTalos]

I was right there with you, until exactly the same thing. Why should they make it so difficult to get us to throw money at them? Additionally I really thought this was the beginning of plastic sisters, but yet again we Sisters players get the middle finger so, GW still gets zero dollars from me.

I actually like this fact:
-Too many people ordered too fast
-GW grossly underestimated the number of people interested in Sisters.

When something sells out so fast (in the past) , GW usually make a much bigger release out of it. Let's hope they've done it again!
If they can put out just ONE sisters plastic Kit, and it sells out in 5 mins again, we'll be set :D

[Denzark]

'Sisters players get the middle finger'...

Hmmm. I think it a reasonable assessment to state GW have changed the way they do customer engagement. You can see this from the way their internet/social media presence has developed - they are engaging, responsive, troll back at trolls, humorous - and most of my gaming group - even serial haters - are liking the direction.

With production though, changes in policy are like turning a supertanker around. It takes time. GW really aren't saying FU to sisters players - I am fairly sure we will see plastic sisters at some point. Its just that other armies are far more serving of love based on sales alone.

[grimmas]

The last time Sisters had a full release (Codex Witch Hunters) they did really badly, they've sold so slowly they haven't needed to even make them in Resin (please don't give me the "but they were metal" line so were Daemon Hunters and we all know how popular they were and the SoBs had better rules then them as well) You can't blame GW for being a bit reticent people love to talk big on the internet and then not go through with things.

What will make a difference is the the big uptake on the limited ed Canoness model. The fact that it's been bought up so quickly has probably done more for the chances of plastic sisters than all the internet moaning. I'd say that things are looking fairly positive for the chances of Plastic Sisters, what with the mention they got in the Magnus teaser

[zanth]

The last time Sisters had a full release (Codex Witch Hunters) they did really badly, they've sold so slowly they haven't needed to even make them in Resin (please don't give me the "but they were metal" line so were Daemon Hunters and we all know how popular they were and the SoBs had better rules then them as well) You can't blame GW for being a bit reticent people love to talk big on the internet and then not go through with things.

What will make a difference is the the big uptake on the limited ed Canoness model. The fact that it's been bought up so quickly has probably done more for the chances of plastic sisters than all the internet moaning. I'd say that things are looking fairly positive for the chances of Plastic Sisters, what with the mention they got in the Magnus teaser

I've seen so many shop owners saying that people have been cancelling orders left and right for this book. People who were buying it only for Sisters. The review that BoLS did on it was devastating. It made me want to give up on them. I've been a loyal player for a good while now, and GW actually making them worse when they were already about the worst lone army in the game hurts a lot. And one new resin model, who's rules aren't even in the new book.

[grimmas]

I wouldn't worry too much about the book, GW are all about the miniature sales and that one miniature sold out in what looks like less than 5 mins, that's a very good thing. Codex Imperial Agents isn't a full SoB release anymore than it's a Grey Knights release. It seems to me they are testing to see if the internet talk is just hyperbole or if it's got substance.

[Wolf of Winter]

[QUOTE=BlackTalos;562271]I actually like this fact:

Here's to hoping mate, but to be honest, I'm exhausted from holding my breath.... The sooner they realize there IS a market for our beloved Sisters, the sooner they'll be getting more ducketts in their back pocket! as you say, the response to the sell out of this figure should at least be an indicator to them that we're still here, but we're not going to wait forever...

And yes, it still feels like a middle finger to SoB players, this hasn't got anything to do with the 180 they've done on their social media/communications front, but good for them on that. This is more to do with the fact that all they've done in recent years is repackage existing (and now expensive) metal miniatures while everyone else gets a brand new 'shiny' (several editions in most cases!). And, now they discontinued Celestine on top of that? I'm only hoping that with her removal that it is an indicator that she'll be the next model in line to debut a new plastic Sisters line (seriously, they could do a sweet job on a multi-part kit for her), but as I said, my lungs are starting to hurt.

[Denzark]

And yes, it still feels like a middle finger to SoB players, this hasn't got anything to do with the 180 they've done on their social media/communications front, but good for them on that.

Its entirely relevant - when you look at their motivation - they are going out of their way to please customers - so the production of plastic sisters would do that.

[Psychosplodge]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/10eb0f102cc8e14c3c3dc30d6e292c19/tumblr_oih5aldKpe1tnyv4do1_1280.jpg

[The Madman]

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[Wolfshade]

Those wings would look better on the sanguinator

[Psychosplodge]

bits swap?

[grimmas]

Haha,

Well I, for one, am looking forward to the promised wall to wall SoB armies that should be appearing soon. I love a bit of variety

[Psychosplodge]

Just cause I'm buying them doesn't mean they'll move to the top of the grey plastic crack pile :D

[zanth]

I wouldn't worry too much about the book, GW are all about the miniature sales and that one miniature sold out in what looks like less than 5 mins, that's a very good thing. Codex Imperial Agents isn't a full SoB release anymore than it's a Grey Knights release. It seems to me they are testing to see if the internet talk is just hyperbole or if it's got substance.

Except the official Warhammer 40K FB page said it is intended to replace their digital codex. It has every model of theirs in it except Celestine, which as we now know will be in the next campaign book.

[Wolfshade]

Just cause I'm buying them doesn't mean they'll move to the top of the grey plastic crack pile :D

I know right

[BlackTalos]

Except the official Warhammer 40K FB page said it is intended to replace their digital codex. It has every model of theirs in it except Celestine, which as we now know will be in the next campaign book.

Maybe because I'm much more casual than on the competitive or even daily play level, but this update is good for me:
- I get a book so I don't have to go bananas on Digital stuff
- rules unchanged so my tactics / meta / knowledge is set, I don't have to go a re-learn everything...
- I hear that in digital form the sisters placed quite high at competitions: is this one of the only well-balanced armies? If so, why want change? I'd much prefer a copy-paste than a Nerf, or if everyone agrees to give the Sisters a boost (inc all other players DE? Orks? ;) )
- this "balanced" army can now add an inquisitor / deathwatch / grey knights ally contained in the very same book. As a sisters players this is fluffy AND useful, plus gives you the edge wherever you felt it was lacking ( to this "balanced" army -- i.e. They DID give it that boost)

I for one used to run sisters with DCA and Shields (sometimes), I'll see if it is any fun to add them via Inq détachement Now (with an extra jokaero, or deamon-host + mace of Valaan combo lol)

[Psychosplodge]

Plastic sisters are visible in the latest WD. Look at the robes on the SoB.

[Wolf of Winter]

Plastic sisters are visible in the latest WD. Look at the robes on the SoB.

OK, I'll bite... what page are they on? all I see are the metal figures.

I'm torn about this triumvirate set. I want Celestine and the Seraphim, and hell, even the Inquisitor, but why pack it in with a Mechanicum model? I guess I could always Ebay that dude, but still...

[Cap'nSmurfs]

There's no new SoB in WD. They're all the old metals.

New figures would have better proportions and more pose variation.

[Wolf of Winter]

That's what I thought, although I did scan through a couple times just to make sure (y'know, squinting into the background and all that). :D

It seems a little odd to go to the trouble of releasing a new Celestine and Seraphim (putting the old 'we are having issues translating Sisters into plastic' thing to sleep), and not pushing further with the rest of the force. I'm still hopeful this will be the year though...

[Cap'nSmurfs]

I genuinely don't think we'll see any new big army releases until after the new ruleset hits. Splash releases for the anniversary/gathering storm, yes. Afterwards, we might have a deluge. Between Celestine and her bodyguards, and Veridyan, we know that the studio is working with the Sisters of Battle designs and new models. I wonder to what extent Veridyan is a trial run - remember that the Void Shield Generator was also limited release before it got a plastic general sale kit. Previously we had no idea if anything was being worked on at all, save rumours; now we have evidence that at least something is being worked on. Veridyan and Celestine selling well (very well) will only help convince them that the market is there. It might be later this year, next year, or in two years, but I think it's only a matter of time.

It's pretty nice that the poster-girl for the Armies of the Imperium in (at least this phase) of the Gathering Storm is St. Celestine. That's not nothin'!

Another point that's probably worth making was that GW said a while back that they didn't do so many female figures because they weren't sure they'd do them justice. In the last two years or so, however, we've had loads (compared to the past) - from the top of my head: Neferata, Alarielle, Drycha, Veridyan, Greyfax, the Mistweaver Saih, Celestine. Something's changed.

- - - Updated - - -

Oh, and of course, the Sisters of Silence. What a thing to forget!

[zanth]

OK, I'll bite... what page are they on? all I see are the metal figures.

I'm torn about this triumvirate set. I want Celestine and the Seraphim, and hell, even the Inquisitor, but why pack it in with a Mechanicum model? I guess I could always Ebay that dude, but still...

Well, being as any of the three can be HQ for any Imperium army, I'd say he's worth hanging onto. He's really strong.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Cawl is a monster. A m o n s t e r. Take a small detachment of AdMech and ally him in!

[Psychosplodge]

There's no new SoB in WD. They're all the old metals.

New figures would have better proportions and more pose variation.

The robes really don't look like the metals.

[Wolf of Winter]

The robes really don't look like the metals.

I have a feeling it's how they've been painted and the lighting to be honest, but they're definitely metal.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

They're the old metals. Look at the faces and the poses.

[Psychosplodge]

I have a feeling it's how they've been painted and the lighting to be honest, but they're definitely metal.

fair enuff

[BlackTalos]

I have a feeling it's how they've been painted and the lighting to be honest, but they're definitely metal.

I'll second this. I've painted enough of the metals to recognise each and every pose, and there's nothing new here...

Also, as over the moon as I am with Celestine and her new Geminae, they are all monopose! The last I heard about "impossible to sculpt" was that GW were having trouble with the Robes, and the posing issues they raised: look at a Sisters model and imagine moving those arms around, the robes would look off.

Question is: would you be happy with a whole new range of Plastic Sisters if they were all push-fit and no variability like a standard Space Marine kit would have?

[Wolf of Winter]

I'll second this. I've painted enough of the metals to recognise each and every pose, and there's nothing new here...

Also, as over the moon as I am with Celestine and her new Geminae, they are all monopose! The last I heard about "impossible to sculpt" was that GW were having trouble with the Robes, and the posing issues they raised: look at a Sisters model and imagine moving those arms around, the robes would look off.

Question is: would you be happy with a whole new range of Plastic Sisters if they were all push-fit and no variability like a standard Space Marine kit would have?

I would imagine that the 'character' models would all be push fit, which I guess is OK (although it makes converting a little more tricky), but I wouldn't be opposed to GW altering the SoB design slightly, and maybe even losing the sleeves in favor of a more tunic style ala Black Templars, or maybe having them have multiple arm options on the sprue so you can select which option suits your mini better. If the mini is in a more dynamic pose, then arm set A works, if a more static 'at the ready' pose, then arm set B. You get the idea.

With the complexity of the kits and characters that they are producing now, I refuse to believe this is the one thing holding them back.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

They don't have to be push-fit. The Sternguard box offers a wide variety of options despite slightly limited poses.

Oh, and my answer's yes, because the reason I don't have them now is that metal is expensive, and heavy, and hard to convert, and has an invulnerable save against paint sticking to it.

[The Turnip Master]

I'll second this. I've painted enough of the metals to recognise each and every pose, and there's nothing new here...

Also, as over the moon as I am with Celestine and her new Geminae, they are all monopose! The last I heard about "impossible to sculpt" was that GW were having trouble with the Robes, and the posing issues they raised: look at a Sisters model and imagine moving those arms around, the robes would look off.

Question is: would you be happy with a whole new range of Plastic Sisters if they were all push-fit and no variability like a standard Space Marine kit would have?

An entire range of single-pose sisters would certainly be disappointing, but since I would probably be doing a lot of converting anyway, it probably wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

[zanth]

An entire range of single-pose sisters would certainly be disappointing, but since I would probably be doing a lot of converting anyway, it probably wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

It would be a cheaper alternative to the expensive, heavy mono pose sisters we have now. :P

[Cap'nSmurfs]

They'd also look better, even mono-pose. Have you seen plastics these days?

[BlackTalos]

They'd also look better, even mono-pose. Have you seen plastics these days?

Yeah, that's how I feel about it too. I would be pretty disappointed with monopose as an answer but at least we'd have plastics... lol

[The Turnip Master]

It would be a cheaper alternative to the expensive, heavy mono pose sisters we have now. :P

Definitely. Also, even with the most basic snap-fit figures like the Chaos Cultists from Dark Vengeance, it's a pretty easy to chop off heads and arms to swap around and give a unit some variety, even if there's only a handful of poses. Trying to do the same with metal figs is much harder, and sometimes there's no way to salvage the bits you cut off.

[Wolf of Winter]

So I picked up a Canoness Veridyan over the weekend. Was pretty excited to be picking up my first new SoB miniature in years. Now I knew the figure was cast in resin, but it feels suspiciously like Finecrap material to me, and is extremely flexible:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/Hoagy/Canoness.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/Hoagy/media/Canoness.jpg.html)

The sword can flex real easy. I'm sure it'll be fine, but for $25 I was hoping it would be cast in some slightly sturdier resin....

[Hendarion]

O.o I thought she's in plastic. Now that's shocking me a bit that GW still does new Finecast minis...

[zanth]

They were very open about it being resin. Slambo released this last weekend was also resin. I'm amazed you found one of those somewhere. I want a second one to use for modding and such, but they've been completely unavailable since launch.

The new Celestine model, however, is amazing.

[Wolf of Winter]

They were very open about it being resin. Slambo released this last weekend was also resin. I'm amazed you found one of those somewhere. I want a second one to use for modding and such, but they've been completely unavailable since launch.

The new Celestine model, however, is amazing.

I'm totally fine with the miniature being resin, but I'd rather it be FW type resin than Finecast. It just feels so cheap I guess.

[stevegill]

I'm totally fine with the miniature being resin, but I'd rather it be FW type resin than Finecast. It just feels so cheap I guess.

It may feel cheap to you but it holds so much more subtle detail than the standard FW resin does and the Canoness has a lot of subtle detail

[Wolf of Winter]

It may feel cheap to you but it holds so much more subtle detail than the standard FW resin does and the Canoness has a lot of subtle detail

As do my HH miniatures, but it's all subjective. She's a beautiful miniature for sure and am glad that GW have in fact released something for us SoB fans :)

[Cap'nSmurfs]

She sold really well, too, so that's a good sign for the future prospects!

[zanth]

She sold really well, too, so that's a good sign for the future prospects!

And now removed her rules in 8th Edition, hurray!

[Tirnaog]

SOB no longer seem listed under armies on the US/UK GW sites?
Have they finally been removed from WH4oK?

[zanth]

Adeptus Ministorum, same thing they are under in the 8th Edition Index.

[stevegill]

The range is still small but it's holding on for now.