Transformers

[eldargal]

Discuss Transformers! DO IT NOW!

I'll start:

I've been a Transformers fan since I was three or something and grew up watching and re-watching the G1 cartoons and the film. I skipped Beast Wars because I didn't like it but got hooked on the recent Transformers Prime after someone on BoLS recommended it (I forgot who, sorry!). Started getting more interested in the comics after they announced a bunch of new female transformers were being added.

I have a respectable collection of G1 Transformers and between my brothers we have most of the English releases I think. I've only bought a few of the more modern toys, most notably:
http://www.onemillioncomix.com/onemillioncomix/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Generations-metroplex-toy-titan.jpg

I'm hoping they make a Titan class Trypticon.

Also:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1888608_688301007859446_249670102_n.jpg
*squee*

[Deadlift]

Me Grimlock, me king.

I feel a Avatar change is needed in respect of the thread ;)

Yep I was a massive fan of Transformers growing up. I think I was about 8 or 9 when they 1st came out and I was hooked immediately. 1st one I got for Christmas was Soundwave. I remember being a little disappointed thinking "what the hell" the the others turn into cars, trucks, guns and planes and this fellas a cassette deck ?
Than bam the realisation that the cassettes transformed as well. Oh yes he became a firm favorite.

Obviously Optimus prime will always be a favorite as well as the proper Jazz which turned into a 911. My Dad was a big Jazz fan too, he had 911 at the time so obviously that helped. Then the Dinobots came along as well as the Constructicons and they were super awesome.

But my absolute favorite transformer is a little truck called Brawn. Compared to the rest he was very very small, but the strongest of them all. So very cool.

Good memories this thread brings back and I can't help feel sorry for the kids today where toy fads come into and out of favour so fast before they can get a real following. 31 years later and Autobots and Decepticons are still battling it out on our screens, in our homes and in our comics. Surely only Starwars rivals that kind of longevity in a brand ?

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab3/joenortonjones/d8e70a6c8892aaba83d22d6753f4d650.jpg

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab3/joenortonjones/feaf3c963cb031cf138a9cac980ef5a6.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

Grimlok was awesome.
As were the entire dinobots, did they combine to form a big dude? (yeah its been that long :D)

[eldargal]

Hehe I have Brawn.:) Soundwave is a favourite of mine also, tempted to get one of the updated Masterpiece range toys of him for lulz.:) Needless to say who my favourite Transformer was though:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/c/cc/ArceeTFMovie.jpg
:p

Star Wars probably, GI Joe and, well, Barbie.


Grimlok was awesome.
As were the entire dinobots, did they combine to form a big dude? (yeah its been that long :D)
No they didn't.:) I do love the combiners, still have most of the G1 ones though. Missing some of the planes for Superion though.

[Psychosplodge]

Who did make the autobots combined transformer then?

[eldargal]

The Protectobots formed Defensor and the Aerialbots formed Superion.:) Oh and the Technobots formed Computron. The Decepticons seemed to have more for some reason. Devastator, Predaking, Bruticus and Abominus.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Threaaad.I was a Beast Wars kid, although I've now picked up a fair few of the teeny-tiny Prime toys - they're well displayed on my flatmate's Dalek cupcake stand, although it's been tempting to get them a Metroplex to hang out on :P Still, that might make the whole affair too tough to transport.

[Psychosplodge]

Threaaad.I was a Beast Wars kid

Out.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Pfft. Beast Wars didddd kinda start the tradition of having a tight cast of more developed characters, rather than a larger, less explored cast.

And it had a velociraptor who couldn't stop quoting Hamlet! I don't know what else people could possibly want from a show!

[Psychosplodge]

G1?

:D :p

[eldargal]

I didn't get into Beast Wars but it can't have been any worse than G1 cartoon.:p I mean as much as I love it a lot of that is nostalgia, it is ridiculously cheesy and silly. Transformers: Prime is where it's at in terms of teevee adaptations.

[Psychosplodge]

I dislike the 3d esque overly cgi animation of beast wars

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Again, pfft, my goggles are so rose-tinted as to be opaque :P

[Psychosplodge]

Its hardwork holding onto these rose tinted specs.

[lattd]

God ive got transformers from so many generations I had some G2 stuff, beast wars, beast machines, transformers robot in disguise, transformers armada. I stopped buying after that although still watched the tv shows. Australian Jetfire in cybertron was hilarious. But prime is by far the best show they have made recently and could have been such a long run. The high moon games are great though.

[Deadlift]

God god, why hasn't there been a miniatures game ?

[eldargal]

The replacement show for Prime is in production now, hoping it builds on Primes success and lasts a lot longer.:) With more females...

[Psychosplodge]

There's a transformers cybertron risk.
Picked up a copy when the works were selling them off at about £7 each a couple of years ago. Still never played it.

Like this EG?

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-toy-discussion/27247054d1312933472-would-you-support-my-little-pony-transformers-crossover-rainbow-dash-transformers.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6qusaUlbm1r7xisro8_1280.jpg

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

God god, why hasn't there been a miniatures game ?:P I've actually got a (very) rough draft lying around. It was mostly a test of the rules set I'm building, but the idea has potential to be pretty fun. Edit: In terms of variety of possible forces (Minicons to bigguns), all the weird fluff to pull weapon options out of, and the interesting flexibility in each unit having two forms. It seems most suited to either skirmish-level gameplay, or larger battles with squads of drone-y types filling out the army.

[eldargal]

Lol, well they would fit in with Beast Hunters anyway.:p You know it is apparently canon that G1 and MLP are in the same universe?

[energongoodie]

So I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that I am a Transformers fan.
If it is a surprise...then you are no fan at all :)

I was 5 when transformers hit over here...and it was awesome!
It was hands down my favourite toy as a kid...and now. This love has stayed with me for 30 years.

I am a collector of the vintage G1 stuff. G2 and action masters at a push. I don't go in for the new stuff at all I'm afraid. some of the toys are awesome and the masterpiece stuff is epic but I have limited myself to old school only.

My boxed collection is pretty respectable and my carded collection is getting better. I don't really buy loose stuff any more as I have nearly everything I want loose. I am trying to get hold of more of the pre hasbro diaclone stuff.

I don't know if anyone goes to the London comic cons and winter comic-cons but I have had a stall there for the last 8 years or so selling Transformers, Star Wars, Mask, Thundercats etc. I have just bought a wodge of Teenage Mutant Hero/Ninja turtles to put up for sale at this years event :)

I'm really looking forward to the new Michael Bay film. I've really enjoyed the first 3. I know they aren't epic, but I really like them.

I love Transformers :D

[Gotthammer]

There is a (terrible, really really terrible) comic where the Dinobots form a combiner called "The Beast Within". It is best left unread, though the TFwiki has a good summary of it (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Beast_Within):


Errors:
This comic was produced.

I've read it. It's true >.<

My love is for TFs who turn into realistic looking things. Love the cassettebots (got most of them save the combiners including the recentish Japanese exclusives) and Alternators / MP line. Though not really actively collecting any more due to space restrictions.

Still have my first transformer, Huffer, on a shelf - not getting rid of him any time soon.

[energongoodie]

Still have my first transformer, Huffer, on a shelf - not getting rid of him any time soon.

Mine was Gears :D

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

I started out with this fella (Tripredacus), painful pile of balljoints that he is;
http://www.transformers-universe.com/content/images/galerie/pics/51/5116_Tripredacus_Combined_Attack.JPG

[chicop76]

Is that the original Metroplex toy. It looks like it have more sticker detail than the one I had, I had the original.

Looking at the toy it reminded of this video about how to transform jetfire/ skyfire. What was funny about the video he was upset about the third transformation, gerawalk mode, and the fact the toy didn't look like the cartoon.

Yet at the same time he realized the difference in names was do to legal rights, but he couldn't figure out that if the lawsuit happened afterwards that the toy and cartoon character would be the same.

Also transformers are micromasters and other toys thrown in together.

I am a big jetfire/ skyfire fan probaly due to me being a big Robotech fan as well.

I think my favorite character was Shockwaves from the comic. He is the only transformer to beat the dinobots to a stand still, defeated all the deceptions and autobots at once, and defeated Megatron on several occasions. Only time I seen Shockwave soundly defeated, was luck related, was when Metroplex took him out and Shockwave fell to earthen orbit, which he survived.

Best fight ever is dinobots vs Shockwave in I think DreamWorks where Shockwave gave in to anger and defeated the dinobots, before he got buried himself.

[Denzark]

My wee boy is a massive fan of the original series. Which is good. I got him a cheap original Hot Rod off the ebay and was popular for a week. The new transformers, I cannot work out though - they are massively hard to transform.

Next purchase - the tank/train/shuttle decepticon, and Rodimus Prime.

[eldargal]

Is that the original Metroplex toy. It looks like it have more sticker detail than the one I had, I had the original.
No it's the new Generations Titan class Metroplex released last year.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

The new transformers, I cannot work out though - they are massively hard to transform.Just a heads-up, but the designers have released a statement that current ones are too complicated, and newer stuff's focusing more on "simple, but fun". The stuff for the movie coming up this year's supposed to be focused on that. Then again, sticking to the nostalgia-trip toys makes it fun for father and son!

[Darren Richardson]

Ah transformers how I remember you fondly, I used to get the comics during the late 80's very early 90's, here in the UK we got even more stories then the US version did, though many of the extra comics were in B&W....

I remember when I first started watching it as well, it was the only reason I EVER tolorated Timmy Mallet....

Beast Wars is'nt as bad as most poeple think it is, the stories were much tighter then the stories in the original series, mind you G2 had been previously released and that was a steam pile by all accounts, I'm glad I never have seen any of that series... the first issue of the G2 comic was bad enough.....

[Denzark]

Just a heads-up, but the designers have released a statement that current ones are too complicated, and newer stuff's focusing more on "simple, but fun". The stuff for the movie coming up this year's supposed to be focused on that. Then again, sticking to the nostalgia-trip toys makes it fun for father and son!

Thanks for that Rev good news.

[eldargal]

There is a video of the first of the new simplified transformation bots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLQTLrMqr1A

They might just be for the movie tie in ranges and some of the other ranges, not all of them. Speaking of ranges if you haven't been following the Transformers toys avidly you might not be aware of the Masterpiece range. The principle behind it is 'What if G1 toys were made to the highest standard today' so for Starscream you have his G1 toy:
http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/1/starscream-robot_1191933024.jpg
Turned into this:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/1/44182467fc3d5a31e4_0.jpg
Not cheap though, they seem to range from 60-250USD depending on the size.

[Mr Mystery]

I've got the Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime one, and used to have Grimlock.

They're awesome!

[bfmusashi]

I've been a fan for years, and just like every other fan there are parts I enjoyed and parts I didn't, but you always get some neat toys so I never saw much point in complaining about it. Animated was the most fun I had with the franchise in ages and I think I bought at least one toy of each character and any variant that was onscreen that got a US release. I almost got multiple Breakdowns for the various arms, but even I have my limits. I had a hard time getting behind Prime since the Autobots were just killing dudes left and right while the Decepticons killed one Autobot in the pilot and later Clancy Brown.
So, if anyone's reading the IDW comic are lady transformers still one of Jhiaxus's projects or did they get another explanation? As much fun as Arcee was at first having every ladybot be a 'girls be crazy' trope seemed grimace inducing.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

As much fun as Arcee was at first having every ladybot be a 'girls be crazy' trope seemed grimace inducing.Their backstory hasn't been revealed yet, but according to the writer and the story thus far; a) their gender will be addressed and b) it's being written with a more progressive viewpoint in mind (so, not mad-science).

[eldargal]

Three new lady bots have been revealed recently: Windblade, Nautica and Chromia (not new exactly) so Arcee is no longer the only one.

[eldargal]

The three new ladybots:
https://24.media.tumblr.com/7a6e2315589e195e7066576409beb7b6/tumblr_n0hm7mQF0T1s2ypolo1_500.jpg
Windblade at the top, Nautica and Chromia at the bottom. Windblade is getting a figure sometime this year, possibly going to be revealed at some toy fair in a week or so. Chromia is getting a figure along with Arcee in March (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23637&mode=retail), no pictures available. Nautica getting a figure is wishlisting at the moment.:(

I think Nautica is probably my favourite design of the three, though they are all great. Windblade is gorgeous.

[Darren Richardson]

I like IDW's Transformers comics, what few I have managed to read, but my main critisism for the early ones they put out was that they kept making them as mini series which had to be read in a certain order for you to understand what was going on, which I didn't realise when I borrowed a couple of the Graphic Novels from the Libarary.


I wish I could afford the collected editions that IDW put out a couple of years ago before the fixed series started which had all of the previous releases all in chronological order....

as a side note I recommend their G.I.Joe comics as well.... and that ending of their first volumes....

[Psychosplodge]

You know it is apparently canon that G1 and MLP are in the same universe?

http://i57.tinypic.com/20qo1fb.png

[eldargal]

I thought you'd like that.:)

[Psychosplodge]

Can't wait for that episode :D

[eldargal]

Well, G1 continuity ended in 1989 or something so might be a long wait.:p

[Psychosplodge]

http://i61.tinypic.com/1ijqf4.png

[bfmusashi]

Oh good, I'm glad the ladybots are the big mystery plot if only because it takes something that was just kind of odd (the sudden appearance of the pronoun 'she' in the transformer vocabulary) and turns it into something rad. I've just been reading the summaries on the transformers wiki and they've just been having a hell of a good time with the Lost Light. Really, the whole shift from stuff on Earth to grand space opera has me thinking of coming back.

[chicop76]

No it's the new Generations Titan class Metroplex released last year.

That explains a lot. Was wondering why it looked different 20+ years later.

Aletta One been around before Arcee. I think chroma was out with Aletta One. I remember the show had about 5 female auto bots in G1 and Arcee came out in the movie, or possibly the lost episode before the movie, the one with Metroplex first appearance.

I don't recall if the Marvel transformers had any female transformers in it. Although I thought Circuit Breaker could had made it to the regular Marvel Universe.

[Gotthammer]

Elita-1, Chromia, Firestar and Moonracer appeared in one episode together (Elita-1 having a small appearance a bit later when the Aerialbots go back in time), but Arcee didn't appear until after the movie when the cartoon timeline jumped to the far future of 2007 (the Rodimus era). Marvel had Arcee, though given she was written by Furman it was yeah...
Curcuit breaker always reminded me of David Bowie's appearance at the end of Ghostbusters.

[eldargal]

I tend to forget that Elita-Ones' group of ladybots were introduced before Arcee was in the film.

[Mr Mystery]

What I need to do is to win a fat old Euromillions Jackpot, and fund the dubbing of Headmasters and that by as many of the original voice cast that are still with us.

The current English dub is bloody awful

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

What I need to do is to win a fat old Euromillions Jackpot, and fund the dubbing of Headmasters and that by as many of the original voice cast that are still with us.

The current English dub is bloody awful
(Skip to 0:42 for the funner bits :P)

http://youtu.be/9bbtLSyDWKg?t=42s

[Mr Mystery]

Ouch. My childhood.

[bfmusashi]

The best Japan show was Supergod Masterforce. Ginrai fought a combiner by repeatedly summoning and dismissing his trailer and later saved the universe with the power of Burning Justice. Loved that show.

[energongoodie]

Has anyone been reading the new transformers comic that continues from where the last issue ends of the marvel comics back in the day?

I like it :)

[eldargal]

Has anyone been reading the new transformers comic that continues from where the last issue ends of the marvel comics back in the day?

I like it :)
What's the name of that one? i've only read some of the current IDW Robots in Disguise and Moire than Meets the Eye runs recently.

[Darren Richardson]

What's the name of that one? i've only read some of the current IDW Robots in Disguise and Moire than Meets the Eye runs recently.

I think he's talking about this one

http://read.idwpublishing.com/Transformers-Regeneration-One/comics-series/8216

It's called Transformers: Regeneration One, it picks up after the original Marvel comic ended, they did the same for GI Joe as well....

Of course us British readers got more transformers stories then the Yanks did, as the comic was weekly in the UK, while monthly in the States, though they were in B&W they are well worth a read.. some very good comic and novel authors cut their teeth on it, including a certain Gaunts Ghost writer :)

[eldargal]

Oh, neat.

[energongoodie]

That is indeed what I was talking about.
Simon Furman has been pushing it at the last couple of Comic cons in London. I'm really enjoying the old skool-ness :)

[eldargal]

Furman is it? So on a scale of 1-5 how badly does he screw up the lady bots?:p

[energongoodie]

You'll have to read it to find out :D

[eldargal]

Or check the wiki.:cool:

Edit: Actually Furman being Furman there probably aren't any lady boys and the boybots are ostensibly genderless except they all use male pronouns and look and behave in a masculine fashion...

[bfmusashi]

Budding gave us the Vok, which is neat to see them run with such a weird idea.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

So, Windblade's toy has been revealed!
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1392401212_windblade.png
As much as I want to contribute to a successful release of a new female mech, I've restricted myself to legion/cyberverse models. Hopefully she'll get one of those in the future.

[Gotthammer]

Oooh, very nice!

[eldargal]

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

[Mr Mystery]

I'll take a Jetfire and a Soundwave, Thankyouplease.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Mmm, Masterpiece Soundwave is pretty awesome. Like the idea of getting lots of little guys with the one big guy, fun to play with :P

Another shot of Windblade; mediocre photo, but robot mode still looks good, jet looks alright. Transformer swords are often kinda stubby, but hers is pretty great.
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1392499543_gen8.jpg
And for Mr Mystery, Jetfire looks just as good as his promotional pics;
http://www.seibertron.com/images/events/331/r_generations-105.jpg
And while I never saw his version of Transformers as a kid, there's something about a robot shark with a haiku-fixation that pleases me;
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1392503873_gen9.jpg

[Gotthammer]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/cf8e0e33fe7c08ef17bb3e92d3f3d755/tumblr_n12hdySL2s1rxdi19o1_1280.jpg

https://31.media.tumblr.com/98c04bba6c0651a8aa814f4391589066/tumblr_n12hdySL2s1rxdi19o2_1280.jpg

Badass :cool:



And Hound is going grizzly-man it seems:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/33ed0ac32278121cf4862bf0a0c62c8d/tumblr_n12i2m5KFQ1rxdi19o1_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Love, love love LOVE Windblade.

Hound looks like he would make a fantastic Bulkhead but whats with those arms? Does not like.

[Gotthammer]

I think they're meant to be like ammo feeds for his hilariously phallic in that photo weapon.

[eldargal]

I see what you mean.>< they look kind of ridiculous still.

[Gotthammer]

But one can never have too many weapons, yes?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cacef68ebabcf81c12ba7efe0483fa2/tumblr_n120arvnZL1qkinreo1_500.jpg

[Houghten]

Mmm... eighteen barrels of hell...

[Mr Mystery]

But one can never have too many weapons, yes?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cacef68ebabcf81c12ba7efe0483fa2/tumblr_n120arvnZL1qkinreo1_500.jpg

Not a Bounty Hunter, yes?

Freelance peacekeeping agent available for certain financial remuneration, yes!

[Darren Richardson]

I fracking love Deaths Head, I was so glad he had a cameo appearance in one of the Superior Spidy comics a while back....

[eldargal]

Windblade > Deaths Head. Hehe.

[bfmusashi]

I'm on the fence with Windblade as she's hitting a little too close to Drift on a lot of things. I loved Death's Head in SWORD and hope this means he's spending more time being a giant and weird in the main books.

[eldargal]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/b1918e5fe2b446373b6f87368e474dff/tumblr_n15sdgcyo11rr770eo1_r1_500.png
**** yeah fanart. You can buy it on Etsy (https://www.etsy.com/listing/172697892/windblade-the-riveter?)

[Mr Mystery]

That is pretty cool :)


Looking forward to the new film, and to those disappointed in the last three....I paid to see 80' tall robots knocking seven bells out of each other, with Megan Fox's charms wobbling about in slow motion. And I got what I paid for. What were you expecting good sirs :p

[eldargal]

I liked the first film, Revenge of the Fallen was ****ing awful (Bay putting in ladybots due to fan demand then killing them off just to upset the fans, IDW sensible retconned that in the comics) and I forget if I've seen the third one or not. I may or may not see Age of Extinction.

[Mr Mystery]

I like them because they were big, overblown, and completely silly. Just how I remember my childhood!

Don't recall Arcee getting jobbed though? Should probably pay more attention.

For my money, Dark of the Moon is an improvement on the second film.

[eldargal]

Well you only see two of the ladybots get offed but after Bay confirmed all three died, then the comics retconned it so only one died 'cos people were really cranky about it.:rolleyes:

[Mr Mystery]

Yepm completely passed me by! I'm aware of Arcee and that, but not them getting squished.

Urgh. Racialstereotypeotron and his 'brother'. Urgh. Possibly worse than Binks?

[DWest]

If had just been robots beating the tar out of each other, it would've been much better, imo. I can overlook some of the dubious design choices (Shia LeBouf for one, Starscream's extremely awkward robot-mode for another), but Revenge of the Fallen completely failed for me when they took the Linkin Park-penned theme song that they'd been playing on the radio for a month to hype up the movie and then the only time they actually played it in the film was . . . driving up to Angry Government Guy's apartment. (Extra bonus "f*** you" to Marcus Theaters, whose cheap audio equipment made it so that all I could hear was pain in that bit)

[bfmusashi]

Revenge of the Fallen confirmed movie Optimus has a thing for faces, which was pretty disturbing. Also, the special remix of the Touch they did for the movie wasn't used during the resurrection scene, which was the movie's greatest sin. I thought Dark of the Moon was a pretty good apology, what with having a plot that went from point A to point B with some crazy building shenanigans. As for the ending: http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1472

[eldargal]

Covers for Windblade #2 has been revealed"
http://www.previewsworld.com/catalogimages/STK_IMAGES/STK620001-640000/STK637387.jpg
http://www.previewsworld.com/catalogimages/STK_IMAGES/STK620001-640000/STK637389.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

I think this is a photo of the shortpacked artists collection

http://i61.tinypic.com/33e0hz7.jpg

[eldargal]

Impressive.

[bfmusashi]

It rotates too, and he has more in storage... like many of us with such problematic habits.

[Psychosplodge]

Really? impressive...

[bfmusashi]

Oh yeah, you can follow his inventory woes through his blog he updates alongside the comic. I've got two bins and several shelves occupied by transformers left. I'm thinking of getting rid of them all, then I come to my senses.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm still only halfway through the comic, so I pay zero attention to the blog.

[energongoodie]

This just went up for pre-order at Kapow toys.
Love it!
http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/p/mp21bumblebee.jpg

[eldargal]

Tempted to get that, also the MP Wheeljack.

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/2012-04-16-killtally.png
Arcee is the best.

[Gotthammer]

Arcee is the best.

#Truth



http://24.media.tumblr.com/e30c2bbd115ea3858b0e5195931c3637/tumblr_n23mjtSA3x1qgokzao6_1280.jpg


Mmmmm... detailed (http://dyemooch.tumblr.com/post/78912725182/full-preview-for-dark-cybertron-10-mtmte-27)...

[eldargal]

*squee* Arcee meets Windblade, Nautica and Chromia! *flails* Metroplex looks kind of hungover.

[Gotthammer]

Thought you'd like that bit ;) Love how tall Windblade is :) heh, he does doesn't he? :p

[eldargal]

I'm already writing the slash fiction.;) Not really. Because that would be weird... Yes she is suitably impressive in stature.;) 'Duuude, never drinking again....'

[eldargal]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7796&d=1394439543
Internal art from Windblade #1. If you don't think it's totes gorgeous then you are wrong.

[Tufty The Evil Goblin]

I'm a big G1 fan and have started getting back into the graphic novels.

Started a G1 collection last year and have been growing it slowly. Have to admit, I couldn't give 2 hoots about boxed or unboxed. If I get them, they will be unboxed, they're designed to be handled and played with, same as miniatures.

Anyone wishing to trade Transformers is welcome to contact me, I have a few duplicates.

[Anggul]

IDW Transformers is best Transformers. So good. Prime was good too.

Michael Bay must suffer.

[eldargal]

Yeah I'm enjoying the IDW comics a lot more now. I also enjoyed Prime a lot, favourite TF cartoon since G1 which is hilariously cheesy now.

Isn't this Age of Extinction film supposed to be Bays last? Would be nice if they could take a cue from IDW if they reboot the series.

Edit: Arcees new body, assumed to reflect what her new toy will look like:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/91724372ef7ce63ad374601269639b64/tumblr_n2ba9vNf561qk4w32o1_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/78e291f3a758e81263f7cbdfdf20ef3b/tumblr_n2dhwcQzQW1qhmvvbo1_1280.jpg
https://24.media.tumblr.com/b2c30252ee7de2132e89ea294807df48/tumblr_n2dhwcQzQW1qhmvvbo2_1280.jpg
Better pictures of the MP Bumblebee

[Gotthammer]

"Hey, Daniel"

"Yeah, Bumblebee?"

"You were conceived inside of me."

[eldargal]

'I hope you at least cleaned the seats.'

New preview pages from Windblade #1:
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/125/213/original/TF_WINDBLADE_01_pg01.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/125/214/original/TF_WINDBLADE_01_pg02.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/125/215/original/TF_WINDBLADE_01_pg03.jpg
Rattrap, smooth as the average geek boy when it comes to the ladies. Source (http://www.newsarama.com/20577-windblade-1-preview-debuts-fan-created-female-transformer.html)

[daboarder]

wait!

STARSCREAM rules cybertron?

when did that happen?

[eldargal]

In the IDW comics, he's been in charge for a while now.

[daboarder]

man last I was aware what was happening in transformers was beast wars.

really liked it up until the beast machines, then all the side switching and back stabbing lost me.

if I was to look into catching back up or restarting where would you recommend?

[eldargal]

The new IDW comics are great, More Than Meets The Eye and Robots in Disguise. I think issue 27 of each came out this month and there are a few collected paperbacks of each. In terms of teevee programs I'd recommend checking out Transformers Prime, I really enjoyed it.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Rattrap, smooth as the average geek boy when it comes to the ladies.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/6c/Rattrap_bm_treehugger.jpg
The increased emphasis on female Transformers and Beast Wars/Machines characters does have me hoping Botanica will show up before long :3

[bfmusashi]

They've been really good at bringing crazy concepts back into the series and it not feeling forced, so while part of me is all 'Botanica wouldn't fit' a lot of me is all 'I want to see how they'd do it.'
If you liked the small team of good guys who are not warriors dealing with competent Megatron and a ton of G1 elements part of Beast Wars I recommend Transformers Animated. Also, Megatron says "Decepticons, transform and rise up." He's the best Megatron. It's also impossible to summarize the series finale without sounding like you're describing a weird dream. I loved it.
Prime has a fantastic voice cast, no fooling, listening to them interact was my favorite part of the show. But, the Decepticons are kind of incompetent and the Autobots are straight bloodthirsty.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

But, the Decepticons are kind of incompetent and the Autobots are straight bloodthirsty.Yeah, that was the one thing I found odd in Prime. Originally the developers were planning on the Vehicons being mindless/sparkless clones, which would've made their disposability a bit less jarring, but then they decided they were just regular dudes? Eh. I feel like if the Autobots also had mooks it would've been a better show (maybe make use of all the Bumblebee redecos in the background). Not that I demand more death, just that I feel a threatening villain should have a killcount on par with/superior to the heroes :P

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

http://static.seibertron.com/images/misc/uploads/1395084252_New%20Hub%20Network%20Transformers%20Se ries__scaled_600.jpg
"Taking place years after the battle between Autobots and Decepticons in "Transformers Prime," this all new series centers around our hero Bumblebee stepping up to lead a brand new team of Autobots."

[Psychosplodge]

http://i60.tinypic.com/1zeysr8.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/2rzymph.jpg

[Gotthammer]

:eek:

[Psychosplodge]

yeah that's about what I thought.

[eldargal]

such collection, very numerous. so generation one. wow.

I'm a bit disappointed the Prime sequel won't be CGI, I like Primes visual style. also a bit miffed that so far only one female VA has been revealed to four or so male VAs. I really don't want to see another series with just one ladybot out of five or six main cast.

[bfmusashi]

I'd be impressed if they don't have a young man driving her around (or in her head) to tell all the boys that it's okay to play with Arcee.

[eldargal]

I don't mind that really, anything that tells boys it's ok to play with girl characters and generally not treat women like an alien species to be viewed with hostility is a good thing. Though I did think the pairing up of bots and humans in Prime was a bit odd, a bit more mixing and bonding between them all would have been nice.

[Kirsten]

such collection, very numerous. so generation one. wow.

I'm a bit disappointed the Prime sequel won't be CGI, I like Primes visual style. also a bit miffed that so far only one female VA has been revealed to four or so male VAs. I really don't want to see another series with just one ladybot out of five or six main cast.

see I couldn't watch prime because of the CGI, so I might actually watch one that isn't...

[eldargal]

see I couldn't watch prime because of the CGI, so I might actually watch one that isn't...

Weird.:p

New Windblade covers, so pretty:
http://static.seibertron.com/images/comics/uploads/1395214445_TF_Windblade03_cvrA%20copy.jpg
http://static.seibertron.com/images/comics/uploads/1395214445_TF_Windblade03_cvrSUB%20copy.jpg

[Gotthammer]

So purdy :)

[eldargal]

Yep.:) I really, really, really want this to be an ongoing. anyone here who is vaguely interested in Transformers comics, go and pre-order Windblade 1-2 a your local store or online.><


Hope Hasbro gets its act together and releases pictures of the new Arcee and Chromia figures soon.

[bfmusashi]

One of the covers makes it look like she might have the crazies. I was kind of hoping she'd be a graceful hardass, like an Ultra Magnus that cracks jokes.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Judging by the writer, I don't think she's got the crazies. A shocked expression with Starscream reflected in her eyes probably means Starscream's done something dickish/selfish, and she's unpleasantly surprised.

Edit: "Windblade has a very clear character in my mind: hopeful, determined, empathetic, a little naive and in way over her head. If she was human she'd be the girl that puts on fancy eye shadow for a date and then keep forgetting she has it on and touching her eyes." - Mairghread Scott

[bfmusashi]

Ah I see it now. At first the reflection in her eyes looked like her, but now I see the browline is totally Starscream. And that character sounds exactly like the kind of person Alpha Trion would trust with a big job.

[eldargal]

Preview from More Than Meets The Eye 28, non spoiler page:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/3472c98cdb99e88a6eb6a1d5d8c588a2/tumblr_n360b0dwdr1rvl528o4_1280.jpg
Nautica is the adawblest and if you disagree we can't be friends.

Rest of the preview can be found here (http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/81042969662/nyanswipe-thegiantpurplegriffin-x-more). Contains some pretty major spoilers for the Dark Cybertron storyline so if you want to read that might want to avoid the preview pages.

[Gotthammer]

That's some hella meta commentary / deep level philosophy right there :p

[eldargal]

Isn't it though.:p God I hope Nautica gets a toy.

[eldargal]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/29b38113f1421e96dc59d7fe24167a3d/tumblr_n39ptqqI3m1qc74hno1_400.png
Hehehe. (http://biorobo.tumblr.com/post/81221757102/i-had-a-lot-of-fun-with-windblade)

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

If Reprolabels made a "Feminist Agenda" deco set for Windblade I would be so happy.

[bfmusashi]

Neat little interview the creative team for the mini series gave Comics Alliance http://comicsalliance.com/transformers-windblade-comic-interview-idw-mairghread-scott-sarah-stone-female-women-creators/

[eldargal]

So looking forward to Windblade. Ordered all cover variants and copies for my cousins and I'll get the digital when it is released so I don't have to wit to pick it up from the store.:rolleyes:

[bfmusashi]

You should let IDW know you're this excited. They probably get tons of "you're doing it wrong" mail and having someone just talk about how excited they are for one of their products will at least make their day if not influence future decisions :) http://www.idwpublishing.com/page/130/

[eldargal]

Good idea, I will email them. Newsrama has an extended preview of Windblade #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/20829-idw-debut-previews-star-mage-1-windblade-1-extended-look.html) which is going on sale in a couple of days:
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/127/219/original/TF_Windblade_01-pr_00003.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/127/224/original/TF_Windblade_01-pr_00008.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/127/225/original/TF_Windblade_01-pr_00009.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Megatron now an Autobot.

Where do I need to start reading, TPB wise to get up to speed on this?

[eldargal]

Robots in Disguise and More Than Meets The Eye Dark Cybertron Crossover, TPB(s) of it coming out in a couple of months I think.:) Probly should have put a spoiler alert on that post, hope no one minds.><

[Mr Mystery]

No issue from me.

I think I've seen him badged up that way before, just didn't know when it happened.

[bfmusashi]

I love Chromia's "I'm gonna have to start shanking people before breakfast again" face.

[eldargal]

Isn't it wonderful? And Windblades 'Oh Primus she is going to start shanking people before breakfas again' look on her face.:) By the end of the year going to have toys of Chromia and Windblade (and Arcee) as well which is fantastic.

[eldargal]

Just bought and read Windblade #1 on Comixology, it's a fantastic first issue. Not too overloaded with exposition and with some goodaction and characterisation and an answer to why the three 'bots from Caminus are all ladybots.:)

[eldargal]

Windblade beats Batman in iTunes popularity (https://twitter.com/MairghreadScott/status/456643348296515585), third behind The Walking Dead and My Little Pony. Amaze!

[Gotthammer]

The only thing that can beat Windblade are a shambling mass that is a blight to all livign things and zombies. Interesting... :p


Also:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/62d9a31bfbd0f27b495697bc5ad5ae27/tumblr_n44usrVCbl1qc74hno1_400.png

>_>

[bfmusashi]

Glorious faces! http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2056&comments=yes#disqus_thread
And for those that missed it, the last time there was this much excitement over a Transformers comic we got Dreamwave's Generation 1 comics which were full of Dull Surprise. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dull_surprise

[eldargal]

I love the TFwiki.:) Especially 'Ruined FOREVER!' (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER).

[eldargal]

Some new covers have been revealed:
http://www.previewsworld.com/catalogimages/STK_IMAGES/STK640001-660000/STK642706.jpg
http://www.previewsworld.com/catalogimages/STK_IMAGES/STK640001-660000/STK642708.jpg
http://www.previewsworld.com/catalogimages/STK_IMAGES/STK640001-660000/STK642700.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

Okay.

So the pretty pretty Transformers toys. Those ones based off of, or reissues of, the G1 stuff I grew up with.

Where's the best place to source them from? Ebay seem something of a rip off for such toys and nice things, and for reasons of 'chances are it's a knock off' I get well worried about ordering from Japan.

[eldargal]

The Masterpiece line? Try Big Bad toy Store or TFSource.:)

[Mr Mystery]

Anything really!

[eldargal]

Try those places, they have pretty much everything inclusing original G1 toys I think.:)

Got an email from Big Bad Toy Store saying the release of the new Arcee and Chromia toys is being delayed along with some others, disappointing.:(

[Mr Mystery]

Worth the wait.

Anything worth the wait, is ipso facto, worth the wait.

Which is not to be confused with worth the weight. Because you know, 10 tonnes of bogies isn't really worth anything.

[eldargal]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/10b6282f22f848f8a75e2abc850ca682/tumblr_n4kcxef3dM1ruissmo1_400.gif
https://24.media.tumblr.com/36e0ae98c68c3a822a9490dffe123278/tumblr_n4kcxef3dM1ruissmo2_400.gif

[Psychosplodge]

Yesterday saw a modern transformers advert, and while busy complaining how the modern look was terribad the other half shocked me by saying the introduction of the female transformer ruined it for her, as it was silly. Honestly not what I expected to hear...

[eldargal]

Ask her why she thinks male Transformers are ok but female Transformers are silly.

[Psychosplodge]

I did.
The answer was a long the lines of they were just robots before that.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Because not everyone has the same opinion?

- - - Updated - - -

I find the idea of gendered robots to be weird and aloof.

- - - Updated - - -

Not aloof, disconcerting.

[eldargal]

I did.
The answer was a long the lines of they were just robots before that.
They weren't though, they have used male pronouns, male voice actors and have had what can only be described as facial hair and bodies that are much more masculine than they are androgynous since the beginning. The first female Transformers were introduced in 198506 after all. The only difference is now we have hopes they will stop being treated like some kind of oddity that has to be justified while male Transformers are accepted as the default.


Because not everyone has the same opinion?

- - - Updated - - -

I find the idea of gendered robots to be weird and aloof.

- - - Updated - - -

Not aloof, disconcerting.
Gendered robots are patently absurd, the trouble is Transformers have always been gendered. No one seems to have a problem with male Transformers it is always female Transformers that get peoples blood up.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Legion is the only good robot!

[Psychosplodge]

Aye well MLP came back on so she stropped out the room...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I agree with her!

*stomps out of the room*

[eldargal]

So apparently:
https://24.media.tumblr.com/a4afaf702f114bff989c8cdffbcab392/tumblr_n4rh68zpPb1sqyt7ko1_500.jpg
Tailgate has been genderswapped. This is actually really important as it is I think only the third time a Transformer has been gender swapped (the other being Drag Strip and Slipstream). It is also the first time to my knowledge a female Transformer has been given a masculine type body thugh Strike might qualify too. Either way it is important especially since it is being speculated she changes her gender identity after meeting Nautica.

[Mr Mystery]

Gobots had a Ladybot way back in the 80's.

Looked a bit like a stereotypical butch though.

[Gotthammer]

Gobots had a quite large number of ladybots (though they were really cyborgs so gendering makes sense but W/E) - Crasher, Smallfoot, Vamp, Pathfinder, Spay-C off the top of my head plus several female humans and non-white characters. Diversity wise it leaves TF in the dust.

[eldargal]

Yup.:( Hopefully that might change. I hope so cos TFs are prettier.:p

[Mr Mystery]

But they did have really bad names. Cy-Kill, Scooter, Cop-Turr.

Tsk!

[Gotthammer]

http://www.ikp.uni-koeln.de/~scholl/rock/rock/comics/australian_comic03.jpg

Seriously, don't **** with the Gobots.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

So apparently:
---
Tailgate has been genderswapped. This is actually really important as it is I think only the third time a Transformer has been gender swapped (the other being Drag Strip and Slipstream). It is also the first time to my knowledge a female Transformer has been given a masculine type body thugh Strike might qualify too. Either way it is important especially since it is being speculated she changes her gender identity after meeting Nautica.Has that been mentioned/discussed by the writers? I'd read that as them using the innocent/naive aspects of the stock character, rather than implying that Tailgate now identifies as female (which seemed positive from the angle of "If Transformers really are genderless, then they'd be just as easily described with feminine terms as masculine").

[eldargal]

It hasn't to my knowledge, which is why I use the word apparently.:) But ingenue is word with very, very strong feminine connotations it would be an extremely odd choice of word to use for a male character. It would have made more sense to just use 'innocent'. I think the notion that Transformers are genderless has to be discarded now in light of Windblade, even if gender does seem to be established as a purely cultural thing (as it is in humans really we just have biological sexes associated with it to complicate things).

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Coo', was wondering if I missed a tweet or something. The more balanced the cast the better, and I'd like to see some positive gender identity stuff to balance out Arcee's origin. While I wonder if Tailgate/ingenue would be the best choice for either of those things, the IDW teams currently in action seem to be quite competent with these topics.

And wow, the go-bots are weirdly hardcore.

[bfmusashi]

So, Free Comic Book Day is here and a new Transformers Vs. GI Joe is an offering. I have conflicting feelings about it. It's got the old art style from the first few books, but does some clever stuff with the style and it might have a neat story. I don't think it's going to be dropping weaponized fungal spores from Cobra La into Unicron's brain but it's pretty early.

[Mr Mystery]

And this is what you get when you search 'Transformers' on my favourite t-shirt website (http://www.redbubble.com/explore/transformers)

Some are a bit lame, but most a pretty dashed cool!

I like the Grimlock/Jurassic Park one.

[Kirsten]

I like the optimus/samus aran one, and the grimlock jurassic park

[Mr Mystery]

http://www.redbubble.com/people/poofette/works/11830138-arcee-we-can-roll-out

From the fourth page.

[Kirsten]

grimlock loch ness monster is good too

[Mr Mystery]

Just found a Wolverine and Deadpool one, where they're drawn as Terrance and Phillip out of South Park.....

[bfmusashi]

Such a magnificent fandom http://kotaku.com/the-unofficial-mario-and-luigi-transformers-1572875578

[Psychosplodge]

http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/85764437737/underscorex-thedailyfigure-theassortment

[bfmusashi]

Windblade 2 is out today. It's pretty damn rad and I'd like to take a moment to point out Chromia is just amazing. Physically intimidating but clearly feminine is a hella hard thing to pull off and they're making it look hella easy. If she starts talking about busting deceptichops I'm gonna have to make a toy of her or something.

[swoods]

I used to love transformers as a kid. But I'll be damned if I can remember much about the series/storyline etc. I had a lot of toys:

Optimus Prime, Jetfire, Dinobots (except the Pterodactyl), Jazz, and then a few from the brilliant (if slightly dated) Movie: Galvatron, the train, hotrod, the green helicopter thing, a transormers "base" thing, and various others.

And just to upset everyone in the thread... I absolutely hate, hate, hate the new Transformer films (y'know with le beef and that god-awful director). I saw the first one at the cinema and wept...!

[bfmusashi]

It is more common to complain about the Bay films and then pay to go see the new one. And, regardless of our feelings towards them, the toys sell like crazy. I just wish kids didn't think Optimus Prime was a face stealing murder machine that left a city to die under Decepticon rule just to teach the squishies a lesson.

[eldargal]

Windblade 2 is out today. It's pretty damn rad and I'd like to take a moment to point out Chromia is just amazing. Physically intimidating but clearly feminine is a hella hard thing to pull off and they're making it look hella easy. If she starts talking about busting deceptichops I'm gonna have to make a toy of her or something.

Read it last night, absolutely loved it and yes Chromia amazing. Badass without being a reskinned male character. Can't wait for her toy coming out later this year.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Silly idea: I'm customizing some toys for my Prime/MTME-themed cyberverse collection; part of the project is adding more female bots. There's one mold I don't know what to do with (it's a sleek compact car), and I kinda want to paint her up as a fan-built-bot, like Windblade :3

So, anyone and everyone, suggest a name/rank/faction/personality/colorscheme, and I'll mush the replies together into the The Oubliette's first fan-built-bot!

[eldargal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRRgsYvnPxs

[eldargal]

WINDBLADE FIGURE FOR PRE-ORDER! (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23850&mode=retail) *flails*
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS23850.jpghttp://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS23850.jpg
Pre-orders sold out veeery quickly. Which is good. Kind of crankifying if you missed out though other online stores should be getting it soon.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1403385249_Gen%20Deluxe%20Arcee%20bot.pnghttp://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1403385249_Gen%20Deluxe%20Arcee%20car.pnghttp://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1403385249_GEN%20Deluxe%20chromia%20bot.pnghttp://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1403385249_GEN%20Deluxe%20Chromia%20cycle.png
I would've leaned more towards IDW-Arcee than G1Movie-Arcee, belly looks odd. Eh. Chromia looks perfect, though.

And is erryun sureeeeeee they don't want to contribute to a Oubillette-built-bot? :P

[eldargal]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant !

Arcee looks gorgeous, lol at the bellybutton though. Chromia is perfect, will be slightly disappoint if she doesn't come with riot shield.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/2ac3b78dc6c7b281a4025d3746cbfc24/tumblr_n7jcqpj2XV1qef8uwo1_1280.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/2b35fe508f8ae14a45b7cea1d4a58b2b/tumblr_n7jagp6qd71r4yt67o2_1280.jpg

[bfmusashi]

I will have that Chromia.

[eldargal]

Some more new bots from Botcon:

Leader size Megatron:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/66d7e02a32c88c32468325890c6548c9/tumblr_n7k8vvd1lk1qiyjsoo1_1280.png
http://37.media.tumblr.com/1225526dec0089b89a5ba4afac72d3f0/tumblr_n7k8vvd1lk1qiyjsoo2_1280.png

Voyager size Brainstorm:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/909a2258424689484a381b6a2c25b334/tumblr_n7jamrFdXs1s044l0o2_1280.png
http://31.media.tumblr.com/3b9ba6f90e4b67a0777080dad60f91c5/tumblr_n7jamrFdXs1s044l0o1_1280.png

[eldargal]

Also, if you are going to San Diego Comic Con you can get this:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/2de5fdc9f686f10b69d2379e196abf2c/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo9_1280.jpg
http://38.media.tumblr.com/ad7f5add3e0a7904dc07662650648f19/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo1_1280.jpg
http://38.media.tumblr.com/843c7524f0c5e929cbc941505d541c63/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo2_1280.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/fbccb9989962c663399eeaa0910411c2/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo3_1280.jpg
http://38.media.tumblr.com/6afd394e79ce2acee0ac6df10f494d0d/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo5_1280.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ea02cc242169fd43b43b56c5104f8848/tumblr_n7fihwI04D1rk7w2qo10_1280.jpg

Edit: Oh and next year apparently is the year of the Combiners, Superion at least is getting a Deluxe size (meaning four deluxe figures and a Voyager) combiner set so that is nifty.

[Psychosplodge]

http://i62.tinypic.com/14v2n7p.gif





bot

i’m a dinobot

and i dance dance dance

and i dance dance dance.

[eldargal]

Oh and Arcee has been inducted into the Transformers Hall of Fame:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/a9a31ccc820b642fda11b40a045167e6/tumblr_n7jydtvvC21r1l571o1_1280.jpg
Artist (http://raikoh14.tumblr.com/post/89520618805/i-heard-arcee-is-now-the-newest-member-of-the)

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

If anyone here's been on the fence about getting into IDW's ongoing comics (like I was!), they're doing a great $50 deal for the entire back catalogue of them as ebooks. (https://read.idwpublishing.com/Transformers-Mega-Bundle/bundle/752?bundleList_pg=2)

[bfmusashi]

If anyone here's been on the fence about getting into IDW's ongoing comics (like I was!), they're doing a great $50 deal for the entire back catalogue of them as ebooks. (https://read.idwpublishing.com/Transformers-Mega-Bundle/bundle/752?bundleList_pg=2)

OMG thank you for posting this. It is a delight.

[eldargal]

Yeah it is a good deal, I'd get it but I alreayd bought TPBs.:)

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

In a disappointing contrast to the excellent (and more widely distributed) Windblade, Botcon's comic/art was less than awesome with the female 'bots. The ur-example is probably the "cast photo" of the 'cons, featuring the sadistic merc Flamewar trying to weaponize the "boobs&butt" pose.
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1122/3759/original.jpg

[eldargal]

Ew.

[Mr Mystery]

Seeing the new film this weekend coming. Squee!

Also, I think Ratchet needs to see to Flamewar there. Something horrible has happened to her hips.

[eldargal]

I'll probly skip Aage of Extinction, didn't enjoy the last two films much.

Yup, very horrible lol.

[Mr Mystery]

She could be half way through her transformation I suppose. Many transforms have their hips round the wrong way in vehicle mode.

Also, I picked up the Alternators Ravage the other month. £20. It's a Jaguar, that turns into....wait for it....a JAGUAR!

http://usatoys.ru/69-1222-thickbox/transformers-alternators-ravage.jpg

RAWR!

[bfmusashi]

Oh neat, I didn't know he got a beast mode alternator. I had (maybe still have) the Corvette that turned into his Beast Wars version. Y'know, the man with the cat face.

[bfmusashi]

I'm rereading Dark Cybertron and I think I can sum up my affection for Chromia as follows. She is in a total of five panels before she starts solving problems with kicks to the head. It's glorious.

[DarkLink]

I'd just assumed that you all were treating Age of Extinction like XKCD does the Matrix sequels: http://xkcd.com/566/

[Anggul]

I'd just assumed that you all were treating Age of Extinction like XKCD does the Matrix sequels: http://xkcd.com/566/

And indeed any of that Bayformers nonsense.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Eh, it gives a lot of life to Transformers, and I like a lot of the visual design going into it (Crosshairs' coat, or Prime's arm blades come to mind). While the final product doesn't appeal to me that much, I still view it as a valuable part of the franchise.

[eldargal]

I'd imagine it is a lot like GWs LOTR, lots of money coming in to spend on more important things.

I'm rereading Dark Cybertron and I think I can sum up my affection for Chromia as follows. She is in a total of five panels before she starts solving problems with kicks to the head. It's glorious.

You will like her in Windblade too then.:)

[bfmusashi]

If they ever did a 13 Assassins with Transformers she'd be Shinzaemon.

[eldargal]

I don't know who that is but it sounds impressive.:p Really looking forward to her toy in September. Windblade in August, happy times.

[eldargal]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/83684c358ec509922afda1b8bb3f9faf/tumblr_n8xllkHl8C1tdnfpko1_500.png

[Kirsten]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/83684c358ec509922afda1b8bb3f9faf/tumblr_n8xllkHl8C1tdnfpko1_500.png

I'd imagine that would be pretty loud...

[Mr Mystery]

I'd imagine that would be pretty loud...

Bump and Angle Grind?

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

"Eroticons, combine to form: Dilderator!"

[bfmusashi]

The mortal mind was not meant for such horrors. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reproduction

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

At first, I was pretty lukewarm about the literal "men are from mars, women are from venus" approach IDW was taking to introducing female 'bots to IDW-transformers (not talking about Arcee right now), but I really like how it was used in Windblade. The frequent barbs about being "alien" made a lot of the tensions work well when considering the gendered approach (i.e., these are two women in a male-dominated society), but work just as well from a "they're just robots" approach (i.e. purely in-story perspective, in denial about artwork as a social construct).



Plus, Waspinator was adorable, and there was a cutaway illustration of the first two transformers I owned as a kid :3

[eldargal]

Ooh that reminds me, Windblade #4 is out! To Comixology!

[bfmusashi]

I'm pretty okay with the ladies being from another planet, if only because it implies something has gone wrong on Cybertron. There used to be ladies, thus everyone knowing gendered pronouns, but something has happened and it doesn't produce them anymore. I think it's a symptom of a big event sized problem we likely won't learn about until after the whole Alpha Trion thing gets resolved.


On Windblade #4, why was it you? Why did it have to be you; ;

[eldargal]

Yep didn't see that coming.>< On the bright side, space bridge to Caminus = potentially lots more fembots.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Hnnnnnnnng
Edit: Video of the upcoming cartoon's been taken off youtube :/ Dangit. Very pretty.
:D

[Darren Richardson]

I spotted the otherday while on Yahoo an article that one of the concept artists on Transformers 4 had blogged on his site concept artwork he did for the film, it included a picture of a female Deception called Widowmaker....

Sadly I can't find the bloody aritcle again but I'm sure if you google it you'll find it, it was by some eastern sounding guy, hi9s name seemed to ring a bell with me, but I can't quite place where damn it....

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

I spotted the otherday while on Yahoo an article that one of the concept artists on Transformers 4 had blogged on his site concept artwork he did for the film, it included a picture of a female Deception called Widowmaker....Widowmaker was an earlier version of Stinger, the red Bumblebee clone.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/8/0/5/0/7/xenokryst_02_1404602233.jpg
http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/07/transformers-age-of-extinction-chun-013-103216.jpg
A like some of the elements of the design, she would've been wasted as one of the nameless prototype 'bots under Galvatron's control. Hope they work her in to future transformers stuff. I don't think it was the intention, but it'd be kinda cool if her turret/tail could alternate between the two modes seen - shoulder-mounted turret for aiming/recoil control, prehensile tail for slashing. Personally, I'd de-emphasize the ro-boobs a leetle bit.

[eldargal]

Notsure I want Bay having anything more to do with ladybots.

Ooh two new Combiners announced at SDCC:

Superion:
https://38.media.tumblr.com/0d2c98ab934e81f05a6b9efe83667a60/tumblr_n982j5Wxbb1qkinreo1_1280.jpg
Menasor:
https://38.media.tumblr.com/dd188ba0d2611ce2075edc98687929f6/tumblr_n982j5Wxbb1qkinreo3_1280.jpg

Handpainted prototypes so probly will look a bit different when done.

Edit: ALSO NEW FEMBOT FROM TEH NEW CARTOON (http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/92786067582/monzo12782-its-planet-cybertron-bumblebee)! *flails* Her name is Strongarm! And she isn't a motorcycle or teeny and she has thick arms and no obvious robo-breasts! *flailing intensifies*
http://33.media.tumblr.com/b915bdb239384f581c5f84fb21d16dd0/tumblr_n98w75Kckj1rtwoppo10_1280.pnghttp://38.media.tumblr.com/2656c7756bed6896a3f5618d632a55d9/tumblr_n98w75Kckj1rtwoppo4_1280.png

[Darren Richardson]

http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/07/transformers-age-of-extinction-chun-013-103216.jpg

That's the one that the article talked about and showed.... that and the Dinobot fights.....

[eldargal]

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/B0065AS00_TF_Legion_W1_FIG_4_Strongarm-Vehicle_1406240429.jpg
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/B0065AS00_TF_Legion_W1_Strongarm-Robot_1406240429.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/6a8c8afcfdcabff4efe42f6d1b9085da/tumblr_inline_n70k4sb2fQ1rqe9e5.gif
Hehe.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/MENASOR-combined_1406238513.jpg
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/Superion_1406240711.jpg

[bfmusashi]

Found the new show trailer on Kotaku http://kotaku.com/http-www-viddler-com-v-983e564a-heres-a-short-and-ver-1610457796

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/B0065AS00_TF_Legion_W1_FIG_4_Strongarm-Vehicle_1406240429.jpg:D Legion class is sticking around! AoE had me worried. Looking forward to a cyberverse female 'bot that isn't Airachnid or an Arcee mold.

[eldargal]

I doubt they would drop LEgion class, it's pretty popular and they announced a few new ones at Botcon as well and said there were like 12 more coming this year and into next.:)

[Mr Mystery]

I'm totes getting me a Menasor.

I got Motormaster for my birthday one year, and my brother promptly lost his clip on head, because reasons.

Now I can have a spangly version! Any idea when we might see this bad boy in the flesh?

[eldargal]

I'm getting both (have the relatively recent Bruticus, its also nice) but looking forward to Menasor the most.

Motormaster will also be getting the new deluxe size combiner treatment next year apparently.:)

Q1 next year is the assumed date I think, mmight be a bit later before it arrives in the UK but could always buy it from one of the online stores.

[Mr Mystery]

Sweet.

Also want the Protectobots. Always liked them. Even if Skyblue is a curious colour for a Fire Engine.

[eldargal]

Yup.

Apparently there will be four Combiners released in the ifrst half of 2015. Superion and Menasor are confirmed, Motormaster was either mentioned at a Hasbro panel at SDCC or is assumed because they released a Optimus Prime that looks likeit is destined to be Motormaster as it has combiner slots in it and such. The Protectobots and Defensor are highly anticipated as being the fourth but no one has any real idea what is happening with that one. Could be any of them.

[Mr Mystery]

Motormaster is part of Menasor though?

So, if Bruticus is out the way, and we know Superion and Menasor are coming....Defensor a possibility...dare I hold out hope for the Technobots? Damned difficult to find a complete G1 set that doesn't include knock offs or shonky reproductions!

[eldargal]

Right.>< I was getting my rumours mixed up lol. Motormaster is happening as part of Menasor, I forgot that we saw MotormasterOptimusPrime at Botcon and people speculated Menasor was coming later.

Technobots and Computron aren't rumorued but certainly desired. Saw someone hypothesising Devastator might be in their was the most iconic combiner.

[Charistoph]

Technobots and Computron aren't rumorued but certainly desired. Saw someone hypothesising Devastator might be in their was the most iconic combiner.

Technobots were in the same generation as the Protectobots, weren't they?

But Devastator and the Constructicons were the original combiners. Unlike the ones who came later, they had specific spots for all 6 and you couldn't mix and match them. I only managed to get my hands on Bonecrusher, the bulldozer during my years of collection.



So, if Bruticus is out the way, and we know Superion and Menasor are coming....Defensor a possibility...dare I hold out hope for the Technobots? Damned difficult to find a complete G1 set that doesn't include knock offs or shonky reproductions!

Well, weren't they often set up as opposites? Superion vs Menasor, Defensor vs Bruticus, Computron vs Abominus?

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

But Devastator and the Constructicons were the original combiners. Unlike the ones who came later, they had specific spots for all 6 and you couldn't mix and match them. I only managed to get my hands on Bonecrusher, the bulldozer during my years of collection.Yeah, it'd need some fiddling to fit into the mix&match system. It'd be pretty cool if they had the four limb-bots be interchangeable, and released Hook and Longhaul as a pair of deluxes that can combine into a voyager-sized combiner torso. They'd still be unusual/unique, but would fit into the combiner system.

Personally, I'm hoping for Piranacon :3 Maybe we could even get God Neptune's Scylla as one of the limbs.

[bfmusashi]

Kneel before Slog! http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generation-Voyager-Action-Figure/dp/B00M2JJP4Y/ref=pd_sim_t_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Z2EYPNT0XBW31BDJ979

[Psychosplodge]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8275728640/hADFD033B/

[eldargal]

Got my Windblade figure in the mail today, it is really, really beautiful. Little bit unsteady on her feet 'cos of her ickle heels but wonderful otherwise. Everyone should go and buy one. Now. Seriously.><

[Mr Mystery]

Peeeeeeeekkkkchhoooooooooorrrrrrss..

And a stinkylinky for where to buy yeah?

[eldargal]

Ha, Big Bad Toy Store aren't shipping them until October (maybe a new batch I thought they were on sale earlier), TFSource is sold out...

Looks lik The Chosen Prime still has some in stock (http://www.thechosenprime.com/GenerationsWindblade)
http://www.thechosenprime.com/assets/images/hasbro%20generations/windblade%201.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

Man that's cheap.

I was expecting near rip-off prices!

[eldargal]

It might go up a lot if Hasbro stop producing it, it seems like it has been very popular. I'd buy it sooner rather than later if you want one, having to pay scalper prices for it would be a pain. I'm tempted to buy a second one on the off chance one of the 3rd party companies produced a more Sarah Stone artwork style head, and perhaps paint her up full miniatures style to make her extra pretty.

[eldargal]

Got my Windblade last week, so happy with her. Some minor issues but she looks beautiful and her paint applications are great and she oozes character, Hasbro really did her justice.

Edit: Forgot I already posted this lol.

[eldargal]

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/1411505763-2014-09-24-horriblemarysuetraits.png

[Mr Mystery]

Not sure I get that?

[eldargal]

Basically the misogynist fanboys in the fandom have declared that being a jet etc. is a 'mary sue' trait that is a huge issue and somehow damages Windblades integrity as a character, while ignoring the fact that jets have always been one of the most common altmodes. It's just another stupid thing they use to try and attack Windblade without just yelling 'I'm sexist'.

[Mr Mystery]

Ah fair enough.

And 'Mary Sue'? I know I've asked this before, but it hasn't stuck!

[eldargal]

Calling a female character a 'mary sue' basically implies that it is too good to be true. Good at everything and with a narrative importance out of proportion to the actual quality of the character. It is really just a way of de-legitimising female characters by attaching all these negative connotations to them.


So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. She is consumed by terrible angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly. They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong.

God, what a Mary Sue.

I just described Batman.

Wish fulfillment characters have been around since the beginning of time. The good guys tend to win, get the girl and have everything fall into place for them. It’s only when women started doing it that it became a problem.

TV Tropes on the origin of Mary Sue:

The prototypical Mary Sue is an original female character in a fanfic who obviously serves as an idealized version of the author mainly for the purpose of Wish Fulfillment.

Notice the strange emphasis on female here. TV Tropes goes on to say that is took a long time for the male counterpart “Marty Stu” to be used. “Most fanfic writers are girls” is given as the reason. So when women dominate a genre, that means people are on close watch, ready to scorn any wish fulfillment they may engage in. This term could only originate if the default was female.
Rest of the essay (http://ladyloveandjustice.tumblr.com/post/13913540194/mary-sue-what-are-you-or-why-the-concept-of-sue-is).

Windblade was labelled as a mary sue by fans before we knew anything of her character at all, like literally all we knew was what she looked like and people were labeling her a mary sue.

[Mr Mystery]

OIC.

How childish of them. And I mean I know we're talking about a cartoon and toys, so it's all inherently quite childish - but being childish about something already childish - that's like tosspot cubed in terms of being a goon.

[ursvamp]

Hrgm. To be honest this is the first time I have seen Mary Sue be used as strictly female. I've always seen it used as a gender neutral term. But I guess different parts of the world (and internet) that I'm familiar with to have their own view and/or customs.

As Mystery says; "How childish", yeah, sums up my own thought pretty spot on.

And, like Eldar says, a character being a mary sue doesn't make or mean that that character is necessarily uninteresting or bad and doesn't mean that the story/ies told abouth hir can't be interesting.

(For instance Morpheus from Neil Gaiman's Sandman comics is sometimes pointed out as an example of a Mary Sue-character, and that is a great tale.)

[Mr Mystery]

So how did they want Windblade presented? Demure and in a bikini and that? All feak and weeble so they could complain she's not a good warrior etc and should get back to baking stuff?

[eldargal]

They didn't want her at all.

[Mr Mystery]

Lame.

[eldargal]

Some photos of the Robots on Disguise cartoon toy range:

Strongarm, newest of the fembots:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/4f596319b809ff036f0c7d00f0fc4fac/tumblr_nd5uisiXWl1s044l0o2_1280.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/48c0839f143d5d2c281313b436e952a8/tumblr_nd5uisiXWl1s044l0o6_1280.jpg

Optimus Prime obviously:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/d538ee5171fd78076d28b34e3c9254cc/tumblr_nd5uisiXWl1s044l0o5_1280.jpg
http://33.media.tumblr.com/7b76531c0c7af053e12a5cf333e21b0d/tumblr_nd5uisiXWl1s044l0o7_1280.jpg

Others here, (http://adam16bit.tumblr.com/post/99544743670/transformers-robots-in-disguise-warriors) I only really care about Strongarm.

[Mr Mystery]

Strongarm is cool. Prime, not so much.

Call me an old Duffer, but there's really only one Prime, and that's the original, innit.