6th Edition Starter box details!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

DARK VENGEANCE PRICES

60010199006 40-15-60 Warhammer 40,000: Dark Vengeance (English) - Special Edition 49 Fig Box, Rulepack, Dice, Measures, Templates 1-Sep-12 $107.00 USD $128.00 CAD

60010199007 40-01-60 Warhammer 40,000: Dark Vengeance (English) 48 Fig Box, Rulepack, Dice, Measures, Templates 8-Sep-12 $99.00 USD $119.00 CAD

See here! (http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2012/08/news-new-info-on-6th-ed-starter-set.html)


Chaos Cultists are in!
That’s right all you Chaos players… I refused point blank to believe that GW would ever release Chaos Cultist, but they have. The Dark Vengeance boxed set (did I not mention the name previously?) will have 2 units of 10 Chaos Cultist models, one armed with auto-guns (with a shotgun & CC weapon for the leader and a Heavy Stubber support trooper) and one with auto-pistol & CC weapon (with 2 CC weapons for the leader and a Flamer support model).
The Chaos Cultist look like everything you’ve ever wanted for Chaos. They’re bound in rags, with metal half-masks and weapons that suit the cobbled-together, improvised look that you expect from the dregs of Chaos.
But that’s not all for those naughty Chaos worshippers; they’re getting a unit of 6 Chosen…elite Chaos Space Marines, armed with a variety of Power Weapons (a Maul on the Sergeant, a Power Fist, a Chain Axe and a set of Lightning Claws by the look of things). The remaining Chosen are armed with Boltguns, but this bodes well for the potential that these exemplars of Chaos might get some more customisable options in the upcoming new Chaos Marines codex.
To lead your forces, you have the obligatory Chaos Lord, armed with a Power Sword & Plasma Pistol. His pose is a bit static, but that is only in comparison to the much more animated Chosen.
Lastly… what would Chaos be without something big and menacing to bring to the table? Well… how about a brand new model… the Hellbrute!
The massive Hellbrute model comes equipped with a Multi-Melta & Power Fist. Suggesting that this isn’t a Dreadnought replacement, but is in fact a huge suit of specialist armour crewed by a Chaos Marine (or more likely a Champion). Actually, the model resembles a huge suit of Terminator Armour with lots of cool Chaos gribbly bits… I’m hoping for a Monstrous Creature that acts like the Dreadknight… what about all you Chaos fans? What would you like it to be?


But what about the Dark Angels?
They haven’t been left wanting and with a new codex (no doubt in their future) there is quite a bit to have a look at.
Firstly, they wouldn’t be Space Marines without the obligatory 10 man Tactical Squad. However, the Dark Angel Tactical-Squad has a twist… it’s got Plasma!
The ordinary Space Marine grunts come sporting a Boltgun, but the squad also has a Plasma Gunner and a Heavy Plasma Cannon model giving support… and just to round out the theme… a Plasma Pistol/Chainsword Sergeant.
Looks like that squad will be getting hot!
The Tactical Squad also has a mixture of poses, this time around. Some of the Bolter-totting Marines are holding their ubiquitous weapon at jaunty angles to make the squad look a bit more animated… and it works too… good job GW!
The Marine side wouldn’t be Space Marines without a smattering of Terminators… so you get a squad of 5 of them. It’s a pretty standard squad, with Stormbolter/Power Fist, with a Power Sword Sergeant. However, you do get an Assault Cannon and Chainfist option… and true to previous form… the models now come in a variety of more dynamic poses with the squad sergeant even sporting Wings but thankfully no nipple armour!
The last squad in the box is a unit of 3 Space Marine (or Ravenwing) Bikers, with Sergeant and one Biker sporting Bolt Pistol/Chainsword and the third Biker packing a Plasma Gun. The models look similar to previous Ravenwing Bikers (with that big wing banner on the back) and are probably the least inspiring out of the box.
But let’s not end on a low… let’s talk about the Dark Angel Triple Whammy… 3 Heroes!
The box will contain a Dark Angels Company Master (Balthasar)… resplendent with his erect Power Sword!
A Dark Angels Librarian… with a slightly less impressive looking Force Sword… and a limited edition Interrogator Chaplain, who’s Power Armour (including smoking exhaust details) and embellished robe might be the most ostentatious model in the box!
That’s all the models in the box… but what about the Rulebook?
I know many of you have been planning to buy the box (price TBC) in order to get your hands on the smaller rulebook. So rest easy… there will be one in the box.
There will also be templates and a new How to Play Dark Vengeance booklet, that allows you to jump right into the action.


New details added Via Faeit 212


via an Anonymous Source (waiting on an OK for source's name)
A guy on the Apoc40k Facebook group just posted a link to a youtube vid that was 38 seconds of new DA art with the date 8-25-12 at the end. He was able to watch it once, but then someone locked the video out. My guess is that it's Friday's teaser video for the GW blog page


New details added Via Faeit 212


Quote:
via Ravengardt here on Faeit 212
this time I got something for you.
and the where briefed. On two things. Yeah you guessed. 25.08. will be preorder date for the starter box. There will be a limited version with an Interrogator Chaplain. 08.09. will be the release date of CSM Codex.

New pictures added

New pictures in post

EVERYTHING!
http://imgur.com/a/eZEVT#A3PsA

Pics
Credit to Warseer for the original links:

http://i.imgur.com/yFPM8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hM7a2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IfBcm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dcwEG.jpg


"Sadly no, no mention of any new codices. However, they are only showing partially what they are releasing each month so the codexes might not be far behind."


ah well..no biggie!

"The starter set will contain:
1 Dark Angels Company Master 1 Dark Angels Librarian 5 Deathwing Terminators 10 Dark Angel Tactical Marines 3 Ravenwing Bikes 1 Interrogator-Chaplain(only white supplies last of Dark Vengeance Box Set)
1 Chaos Lord 6 Chosen 1 Helbrute 20 Chaos Cultists
48p How To Play Booklet 1 Reference Sheet 168p Rulebook 1 Flamer Template 1 Small Blast Marker 1 Large Blast Marker 1 Dice Pack 2 Range Rulers
It will cost 65 pounds and be available 1 september."


Those worrying it wouldnt include a mini-rulebook can relax (allthough id of thought it went without saying?), I'm guessing the 48p how to play booklet has the rules and stats for the DA and chaos miniatures included. I wonder if there will be any fluff on the battle it's centred around tghough?

"The Interrogator Chaplain is a strictly limited edition model exclusive to the Dark Vengeance Boxed game. However, this miniature will only be included while stocks last, so be sure not to miss out!"


so it sounds like there arent multiple version sof the starter set, just that a limited amount have the chaplain? guess it's a way to get people to buy it ASAP. It'll work on me at least.

[Wildeybeast]

All sounds pretty good. shouldn't have to wait too long for this to all pan out and see if it's true.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I know man... It all sounds very tasty.

Take with salt, but not too much. I don't want Mystery OD'ing again. :p

[Wolfshade]

Mmmm pretty,

Though is a "Heavy Plasma Cannon" a cross between a Heavy Plasma and a Plasma Cannon. Oh no edition confusions:confused:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I maybe it's something DA exclusive, or someone doesn't know how to read. Either way. :D

[DrLove42]

All sounds pretty good. But its pretty clear that DA are the focus of this box, cos they seem to outnumber chaos about a billion points to 1.

Buying it just for the rule book, might keep the nice models.

Hell Brute does sound like an evil Dreadknight though

It says the Chaplain is a "limited". Does that haev anything to do with the limited starter box?

[SotonShades]

Quite a lot of want there. Hope this all comes through, but my soton-sense is tingling and telling me not to believe it. Not sure why...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I, for one, welcome our Evil Dreadknight Overlords.

Who are now being named EDO's. :D

[RGilbert26]

I suspect that GW will either sell the limited model in a seperate special box with a different price or all first run boxes will have the model. Once they've all been shipped then the model disappears. Only got 17 days to find out if the above is 100% true.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

*plays dramatic suspense music*

[Daemonette666]

The orks were outnumbered, especially in points in "Assault on Black Reach". This new box set - Dark Vengeance seems just as unbalanced in the marines favour.

2 units of 10 cultists with little in the way of weapons upgrades, a small 6 man unit of chosen with mostly close combat options, a Hell Brute - possible Monstrous creature similar to a dread knight or a new sort of dreadnought, and a Chaos Lord. This force would give you about 600 points worth.

The Dark Angels do not have a second troop choice. If you use the force as 2 x 5 man squads, the Plasma Cannon, can not be purchased normally. The 3 lords, or options to make 3 possible lords give the marines more flexibility in HQs, and the 5 terminators can usually handle problems like a monstrous creature. The 3 bikes brings the points above the Chaos forces total. Unless the HQ choice makes the Bikers a troop choice, the force would be illegal. I estimate about 750 points for the Marines.

The small rule book, templates, objective markers, tape measure (or measuring sticks), dice, and miniatures are a decent way to start a person off, and as usual gives heaps of reasons for a person to want to collect more things to fill, or in the case of the Chaos, flesh the army out. I am going to buy it just for the rule book, and expand my chaos forces.

I have already planned to swap the Dark Angel miniatures with 2 friends of mine who collect Loyalist Space marines (PLAARGH), sorry had to spit the vile loyalist words out then. Arrgh I said it again. Bless me oh Slaanesh lord of all that is perfect, and true --------- goes off chanting to herself. Seriously though,

I would have included only 1 Cultist squad of 20 with options for close combat weapon and pistol and/or autoguns, and then added a unit of 10 chaos marines with a missile launcher and flamer, an aspiring champion with power axe. I would have given the space marines a second squad of 5 marines with a flamer and standard sergeant to add to the full squad of 10 they include in the box set. I would pay a little more for the set, if I knew I could make a legal force that had a bit more tactical flexibility, and had the basics for the normal FOC. I know a lot of people would not know any better, or care about part of the force not meeting the minimum FOC requirements. They like me are planning to swap miniatures anyway, and will get the required 2 troops units easily. It is just something I would do when designing a beginners box set. Plus adding in the extra miniatures makes the set more balanced.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I want the Chaos stuff to paint up as Tzeentch. :D

We'll likely do box swapping on day of release, so I'll get all that I want from this box. :D

Didn't AoBR also only have 1 unit of Marines?

[Daemonette666]

I thought it had a unit of 5 and a unit of 10, plus termies, dreadnought and lord. I never bought the set myself because I did not want to do orks or the imperialist lackeys. The local GW shop always had more miniatures on the intro table anyway, so I never really knew what it started with. They had 10 assault marines and a second squad of 5 termies (close combat though) on the side.

If the set were aligned as this is to the true gods, then I might have been tempted to buy it.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Only 10 of the vile Imperials.
Glory to Chaos! :D

http://www.livewiregames.co.nz/shopping/image/cache/m1880127_60010199005_BlackReachRedo_873x627-500x500.jpg

[Wolfshade]

It had just a 10 man squad, 5 terminators, dreadnought, and captain.

I got the box for the ork coptas!

[DrLove42]

Your listing up above also missed the Libby and Chaplain for the marines...cos 3 HQ choices are fun, unless 1 is an upgrade character. I estimate in terms of points Chaos is outnuymbered nearly 2 to 1.

The cultists with autoguns and a heavy stubber sound like a great Necromunda conversion waiting to happen. I'm going to get the box, sell off the uncool models (by the sounds of it, jsut the bikes) and keep the rest as allies or painting + modelling projects

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Sounds like you get a lot more in it as well. Which is good.

AoBR was kinda bad.

[Bibbums]

cool

[eldargal]

Nothing particularly new there, except the presence of a chaplain which directly contradicts the leaked starter set documents that came from the chinese printers recently.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Nothing particularly new there, except the presence of a chaplain which directly contradicts the leaked starter set documents that came from the chinese printers recently.

Unless he gets released separately, kinda like Prince Althran and Warlord Spinetail.

[eldargal]

Yup, that is possible. Given that the armies are supposed to demonstrate how the game is played I can see including a psyker and a combat-warlord HQ, but a chaplain seems redundant.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My logic is without flaw! :D

I agree, I don't see the point of a Chaplain in the box.... I can't see what it would offer to a beginner?

[Mr Mystery]

I suspect that GW will either sell the limited model in a seperate special box with a different price or all first run boxes will have the model. Once they've all been shipped then the model disappears. Only got 17 days to find out if the above is 100% true.

Going on Island of Blood, I expect both forces will have a splash release character.

[Mr. Furious]

Any word on price for this set?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Nope, no price yet.


@Mystery - You mean, exactly what I just said?

[pauljc]

Spikey Dread Knight?! I CAN HAZ!!!!

[spaceman91]

this chaos dreadknight, would it be anything like the one on the front of the iron warriors omnibus.

[eldargal]

Well, it isn't a Chaos Dreadknight, it is described as giant suit of terminator armour. BoW just hope it has some things in common with a dreadknight. Given that other, reliable sources have said it is just a plastic dreadnought I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything too radically different looking.

[Bigred]

Overall, not a lot new here. It is essentially confirmation of this from a few weeks back:

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=22855

We did get a name though!

[MarneusCalgar]

So if all of this is true... It will be an amazing new!!

[Kawauso]

Wouldn't a giant suit of terminator armour just look like a Contemptor dreadnought?

That's what I keep picturing.

[MarneusCalgar]

Wouldn't a giant suit of terminator armour just look like a Contemptor dreadnought?

That's what I keep picturing.

Well, the Dreadnoughts are bigger than thought and that what is shown in the 28 mm miniatures´s scale...

But maybe 3/4 height of a Dread should be the right one

[Deadlift]

Giddy with glee, if this pans out I'm buying 2, maybe 3 could be 4 sets :)

[DrLove42]

Giddy with glee, if this pans out I'm buying 2, maybe 3 could be 4 sets :)

Then you sell the spare mini rulebook on ebay for 20-30 and make yourself a bit of the investment back :P

[sneakyben]

Does anyone know what CC* weapons the cultists will be armed with?

This a little relevent for normal 40k, but quite a lot relevent if you plan on using these for some sort of necromunda gang

Swords or chainswords = a pain... anything else = awesome :D

[pauljc]

Well, it isn't a Chaos Dreadknight, it is described as giant suit of terminator armour. BoW just hope it has some things in common with a dreadknight. Given that other, reliable sources have said it is just a plastic dreadnought I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything too radically different looking.

I don't care really. Just the idea of a Chaos Dread Knight is awesomesauce! :)

[mysterex]

Remember when the 5th boxed set was released and White Dwarf included a nob and a terminator model to promote it?

Well given that, according to the Chinese pdf leak, a Chaplain is not in the set, I'm wondering if it is a White Dwarf promo model for the 6th ed boxed set.

That said I'd rather have another terminator - I'd get more use out of it.

[DrLove42]

I doubt WD would come with a limited model like that.

If anything you'll get 1 Chosen and 1 Terminator again....maybe if they keep doing this by 9th edition i'll have a legal unit of Terminators!

[tanonymus]

Dont be upset when the Hellbrute is not the chaosequivalent of the Dreadknight - i dont think it will be that big and on an oval base.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Doesn't the Hellbrute evoke mental images of that CC Obliterator mentioned in the rumours?

[DrLove42]

Doesn't the Hellbrute evoke mental images of that CC Obliterator mentioned in the rumours?

Sounds biggerthan an obliterator (its the Dread sized model in the kit) but in my mind its something thats a cross between this

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1241204_99060102118_Obliterator1main_445x319.jpg

And this

http://halo.neoseeker.com/w/i/halo/thumb/0/0a/Hunter.JPG/300px-Hunter.JPG

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Wasn't there also talk of a replacement for the Dreadnought, ruleswise? Could be something there.

[DrLove42]

think that was dismissed as not true. Or at leas t a"demonic engines" choice that still included dreads

As i said, this will be the dread sized model in the box, and it'll be a vehicle to introduce armour rules in starter games

[Hesporos]

On the topic of the DA being illegal if you look at what else was said, that Terminators are troop and chaplains are elite it's not illegal. That gives you 2 troop, 1 fast, 1 elite and 2 HQ. I believe those were mention and I read them from faeit 212. Still a huge price difference for sure but there is my 2 cents.

[Dalleron]

But as of now, DW termies are not troops without taking a special character. So this box set is not legal for them. There would have to be a new 'dex to allow this. That is another thread utno itself.

But does making the game "legal" within the rules matter for what is supposedly meant to teach the basics of the game.

[Hesporos]

True it is not legal now, I just think it may be planning for the future IF those are both true.

[Mr Mystery]

But as of now, DW termies are not troops without taking a special character. So this box set is not legal for them. There would have to be a new 'dex to allow this. That is another thread utno itself.

But does making the game "legal" within the rules matter for what is supposedly meant to teach the basics of the game.

Island of Bloods High Elves aren't a 'legal' force. Too many points in characters, and ipso facto not enough in Core.....

[Wildeybeast]

Island of Bloods High Elves aren't a 'legal' force. Too many points in characters, and ipso facto not enough in Core.....

Why put a legal force in the box set when you can make people buy extra models in order to turn to the box set into a legal army?

[Mr Mystery]

Why put a legal force in the box set when you can make people buy extra models in order to turn to the box set into a legal army?

Well indeed. It's also about introducing as many unit types as you can in a single boxed set.

[Dalleron]

+1 to what Widleybeast said.

I wonder, though, how many of the starter sets are sold to "beginners", as opposed to vets who have an army with useable contents in the set, or are willing to shell out the money for the little rulebook.

Just wondering

[Corvus-Master-of-The-4th]

I am a "veteran" gamer, and I pretty much always pick up the set, mainly for the little rulebook and the models though... Cheap Terminators, Dreadnought and Tatical Squad from Assault of Black Reach was very welcome!

[Mr Mystery]

+1 to what Widleybeast said.

I wonder, though, how many of the starter sets are sold to "beginners", as opposed to vets who have an army with useable contents in the set, or are willing to shell out the money for the little rulebook.

Just wondering

Anecdotal those this might be, but during my 12 months with GW, I don't think I sold a single starter box to someone already involved in the game outside of the initial launch months. To be honest, I think most established gamers pick up the bits they want from Ebay, rather than shell out multiple times for the full set.

[Kirsten]

starter sets are not about giving people a legal army, they are about getting new players interested in the game and teaching them the rules, and exciting, diverse models are the way to do that.

[Wildeybeast]

starter sets are not about giving people a legal army, they are about getting new players interested in the game and teaching them the rules, and exciting, diverse models are the way to do that.

I agree entirely, and they do that really well. And once you've learned how the games works from that, you can go and buy all the extra stuff you need to make a fully functioning army! :D

[the jeske]

starter sets are not about giving people a legal army, they are about getting new players interested in the game and teaching them the rules, and exciting, diverse models are the way to do that.

If I would let two starting players [never played w40k new to table top gaming] play with the box , then both would start playing DAs. box is unbalanced as hell .




I agree entirely, and they do that really well. And once you've learned how the games works from that, you can go and buy all the extra stuff you need to make a fully functioning army!
only if your a chaos player you wont be using many of those models unlike you realy realy want to use cultists. the lord and the sorc have bad weapons , the chosen are both a suck units and the weapons they have are bad to make asp champions[or lords]. the dread is bad [not as bad as in the gav dex , but in the gav dex there was only 1 other option for hth walker , in the new one there are 3 , 4 if one counts maulers] .

[DrLove42]

I'm going to put this in here, under Starterbox as thats what everyone thinks it is going to be.

Via Faeit 212


via an Anonymous Source (waiting on an OK for source's name)
A guy on the Apoc40k Facebook group just posted a link to a youtube vid that was 38 seconds of new DA art with the date 8-25-12 at the end. He was able to watch it once, but then someone locked the video out. My guess is that it's Friday's teaser video for the GW blog page

Is it just me that hopes we get the starter box on that date, and this is just advertising the one side of it, with the other to come and not the DA codex?

Assuming this is true :P. Guess we might find out on Friday

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

DUN DUN DUN.

Either way, I'm game.
Added to OP.

[DrLove42]

I mean it could be the DA codex, not the starter box, but i'm hopeful it'll be the box set. I want to be able to stop carrying the Hulk round with me

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

True dat.

[Bigred]

A Dark Angel could easily be an early ramp-up teaser for the Boxed Set. (with a CSM teaser video to follow for example)

You got two schools of thought on this:

a) Boxed set first, then the constituent armies after (followed by CSM, DA)
b) Constituent armies first (CSM, DA) followed by the Boxed set.

All the reliable sources are saying (a).

Also, last month's White Dwarf teaser page showed a Marine fighting a Chaos Marine - not so subtle hint there.

The bigger news from here is the date of 8-25-2012. Its a saturday exactly two weeks before the previous rumored release date of September 8th. So that means that whatever the product is, we get advanced orders on Aug25, and it hits retail on Sept08.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Well I have no inside knowledge and am not a rumormonger but, for what it's worth, one of my local FLGS's is having a 40k 6th edition "event" on the 25th - They're being very tight lipped about the whole thing claiming it's to "celebrate 6th edition". Now bear in mind this store is a generic hobby store (they sell trains, race car kits, models, rockets, etc), and only have special 40k events when something new is going on.

Of course, it could simply be an event to get more folk's into 6th edition as well, but why wait until the 25th?

[DrLove42]

Update...someone grabbed screenshots before it got pulled

Again Via Faeit 212

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ILDMT0tmrzQ/UCveo8_H5yI/AAAAAAAAJRE/IqyI5D0XcPY/s400/0.jpg

This top picture...i can see chaos icons in the background, and does it look like hes about to be grabbed by a giant hand?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iLwtm8klMfk/UCvepdoT_LI/AAAAAAAAJRU/yfz9onG_K54/s400/3.jpg

Looking like the "trailer" is looking genuine. But what is it for.....

[Malachi]

Also, last month's White Dwarf teaser page showed a Marine fighting a Chaos Marine - not so subtle hint there.
Has anyone else noticed that that image is recycled from the 5th Ed rulebook? It's the picture on the page about psykers or force weapons (one of those).

[Wildcard]

You got two schools of thought on this:

a) Boxed set first, then the constituent armies after (followed by CSM, DA)
b) Constituent armies first (CSM, DA) followed by the Boxed set.

All the reliable sources are saying (a).

Well, even if it is true, it would be the most retarded thing there could possibly be (in tabletop gaming that is)..

Two friends start the hobby (or even existing players getting new armies). They buy 2x old codexes to go with the starter box, and possibly some cool unit(s) that they feel would suit them (either they like, or feel it works well with the army, as per old dex..)

Then, few feeks later, they have to buy new codexes (just when they just have started to have a hold on the contents.) Have to think about the new stuff, while trying to forget the old book.

To sum up the sucky side in my opinion:

- Loss of money (in these financially hard times for many even the 25€ counts, on in case of kids weekly allowance, or whatever it is called..).

- They get new codex to replace their "new" codex, so no that much valid points in there about using old and 'boring stuff'.

- What to do with cultists (as rumoured), unless they supply the box with leaflets of the units contained. (and ofc all the other rules and point costs of the supplied armies.. And how to rule stuff out when the leaflets contradict the rulebooks they have bought) One could say that "its just few weeks wait", but still, highly confusing to the new members to the hobby, who have no forum contacts and have no idea about the game in general for example.

- Its hardly (if ever??) happened that GW has removed unit from newer codex, but it has happened more than once that the old ones have become obsolete (in one way or another - subjective feelings mostly, but nevertheless). So, the two guys that bought something to go with the starter set either have to rely on 'allies' to use them, or feel that the 'cool unit' that they bought is not either represented or is such a low performing, or completely unfun unit that they have wasted 20-50€ just there as well.

Feel free to point me wrong, but do not do so without a good reasoning or arguments :)

[DrLove42]

Faeit 212 (http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/release-confirmations-starter-set-and.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Faeit212+(Faeit+212))


via Ravengardt here on Faeit 212
this time I got something for you.
and the where briefed. On two things. Yeah you guessed. 25.08. will be preorder date for the starter box. There will be a limited version with an Interrogator Chaplain. 08.09. will be the release date of CSM Codex.

Things are starting to firm up!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Nice! :D

Added to OP

[ragnarcissist]

Faeit 212 (http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/release-confirmations-starter-set-and.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Faeit212+(Faeit+212))



Things are starting to firm up!

i already broke this but TDA got jealous and got rid of my thread, moving it to this clusterf*ck haha i kid i kid

[tanonymus]

Two friends start the hobby (or even existing players getting new armies). They buy 2x old codexes to go with the starter box, ...

Well. It would not be like this. The Storemanager would tell you to not buy the old codex... its releasedate would be in about 20 Days... Beginners can wait till then. + They can play with the rules in the Minibook.

In the swtich from 4th to 5th, you could even buy the old Rulebook and exchange it a week later, for the new one.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

i already broke this but TDA got jealous and got rid of my thread, moving it to this clusterf*ck haha i kid i kid

You think this is some kind of game!?

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?343627-Official-Warseer-6th-Ed-Starter-Set-Thread-(Summary-in-first-post)&p=6378297&viewfull=1#post6378297

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Cannot see Warseer at work, could you copy and paste the comment please?

[DrLove42]

From that thread, comes pictures so all credit to Farseer U above me for finding it

http://www.geekpics.net/images/2012/08/17/Gb39g.jpg

http://www.geekpics.net/images/2012/08/17/cUE7j.jpg

http://www.geekpics.net/images/2012/08/17/tEKBd.jpg

http://www.geekpics.net/images/2012/08/17/9zJc3.jpg

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[da_WaaaghMaster]

Damn you GW.

[DrLove42]

Triple post sorry. Love the models. No image of the hellbrute yet, but everything looks fantastic. The cultists does look like the TF2 pyro though....

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

F*CK YOU GAMES WORKSHOP. STOP TAKING ALL OF MY GODS BE DAMNED MONEY.

/rant

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Glad the Dark angels look to be blinged up and the chaos marines remind me of their more baroque rogue trader designs which is a step in the right direction for sure. Not keen on that cultist design though, looks too much like a gimp to me - would of prefered something more like those dawn of war ones.

[energongoodie]

Must...stay...calm :eek:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Well, time to don my Lion Cloak again.

Dark Angels, you have made me love you once more.

[eldargal]

Need bigger pictures, the chap in the robe looks ok but the rest are a bit dull. What's with the gimp mask thing? Traitor Guardsmen? I hope it isn't a cultist.

[energongoodie]

Need bigger pictures, the chap in the robe looks ok but the rest are a bit dull. What's with the gimp mask thing? Traitor Guardsmen? I hope it isn't a cultist.

You know it's a cultist. It looks very much like it comes from the mid 90's Necromunda range.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

But... look at his sword! It's amazing! (I bet it tastes of raisins)

[eldargal]

Apart from the lack of robes and the lack of hood and the fact it looks rubbish you mean?:p

You know it's a cultist. It looks very much like it comes from the mid 90's Necromunda range.

I'm not making a final judgement, I want to see bigger pictures but so far they are quite lacklustre in my opinion.

[energongoodie]

I think the polite way to put it would be that it looks very much like it belongs in a snap to fit starter set. :)

[eldargal]

He looks like a Guardsmen in a gimp mask, I'd hoped for something more for a cultist. Emaciated, self-mutilated etc. Do a headswap and whats Chaotic about it? He could be a Guardsman.:( Need more, bigger pictures.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

But those Dark Angels are fragging sexy! I love the Librarian!

Here's to Ezekiel getting BETTER RULES...

[energongoodie]

We have to wait and see things clearly and in their entirety before we start loving or hating. My initial reaction is always to love new stuff no matter what. Then I calm down and start to be a bit more realistic in my appraisal.

Must..stay...calm. Need...more..pics

[The Shadow King]

Dark angels models, a bit meh. Those chaos guys though are some of the best models I've seen.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT I AM SEEING!?!

FRAGGING LIBRARIAN CASTING MIND BULLETS. THAT'S TELEKINESIS KYLE!
DUDE WITH WING HELM AND GIANT SWORD.
WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE?!???

*runs off flailing and screaming*

[energongoodie]

CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT I AM SEEING!?!

FRAGGING LIBRARIAN CASTING MIND BULLETS.
DUDE WITH WING HELM AND GIANT SWORD.
WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE?!???

*runs off flailing and screaming*

You made me chuckle :D

the Librarian does look kinda bada$$

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I added to it, do I get an extra chuckle?

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of the Lion.

[eldargal]

That's what I'm getting at, we need bigger pictures to get an ide of how nice the sculpts are. Personally unimpressed based on these tiny things, hope my opinion will be changed when we get nicer photos.

We have to wait and see things clearly and in their entirety before we start loving or hating. My initial reaction is always to love new stuff no matter what. Then I calm down and start to be a bit more realistic in my appraisal.

Must..stay...calm. Need...more..pics

[MarneusCalgar]

HOLY ****!!!

Those models look PRETTY AMAZING!!!

If they´re from the Starter set, they jumped the shark...

The Quality of these models is Universes far better than the ones in Black Reach...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

HOLY ****!!!

Those models look PRETTY AMAZING!!!

If they´re from the Starter set, they jumped the shark...

The Quality of these models is Universes far better than the ones in Black Reach...

Well said. :)

[Learn2Eel]

This stuff looks great, the images are a bit indistinct but it's obvious that they are finely detailed models (and not of the bad kind ;)). I assume the bald Chaos Space Marine is a character of some sort, he doesn't look like an ordinary Aspiring Champion though; maybe a Dark Apostle for the Cultists? The Chaos Lord looks brutal, and it seems he is in power armour as well. Seriously, the Chaos Lord is incredible; he looks to be in power armour as well, which is a big plus. I like the Cultist model, it isn't at all what I was expecting but when you look at their rumoured statline it isn't a stretch to give them a traitor-guard look. The Chosen model is great, if a Chosen kit is released and they look like the ones in the Starter box there will be a lot of very happy customers....particularly if Abaddon does make them troops!

On the Dark Angels, I don't know which is which. I assume the winged helmet marine is the Captain, and the hooded one is the Librarian. The Captain model is suitably stunning to match the awesome Chaos Lord model, and the Librarian looks pretty nifty too.
All in all, if that kind of quality is apparent throughout the entire box, I'll definitely pick one up on release day!

Also, isn't it lovely to see that Chaos keep getting touted as coming out in early September as well :D

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

On the Dark Angels, I don't know which is which. I assume the winged helmet marine is the Captain, and the hooded one is the Librarian. The Captain model is suitably stunning to match the awesome Chaos Lord model, and the Librarian looks pretty nifty too.
All in all, if that kind of quality is apparent throughout the entire box, I'll definitely pick one up on release day!

You're right! And I'm in love with them already.
They're awesome.

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

Well, time to don my Lion Cloak again.

Dark Angels, you have made me love you once more.

I am glad I starting collecting Dark Angels two months ago. These new models are fantastic. I also love the cultist look; better to have chaos followers in armour than robes (cultists in robes are boring and been done before).

[DrLove42]

Now i'm on a real computer, not my phone i can post actual comments

I like them. I love the Chaos marines, hope the rest of the new line look similar.

Its hard to judge in small pictures, but remember thats 1 cultist out of a box of 20. The rest could be awesome.

My only disapointment is how.....Angely the Marines are. I was hoping for more generic space marines with DA logos so they could be useful by other armies. As it is they're very DA specific

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

Need bigger pictures.

You've said this four times lol

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My only disapointment is how.....Angely the Marines are. I was hoping for more generic space marines with DA logos so they could be useful by other armies. As it is they're very DA specific

Because they're supposed to be Dark Angels.... And the Dark Angels are a very decorated Chapter...

[Learn2Eel]

I get that some people would've preferred more generic looking Space Marines so they could be more easily used in other armies, but I kind of see the starter set as GamesWorkshops big selling point; when you think about it, the starter set is meant to be the big product that draws in new customers. The models should be top quality so that the initial interest of customers overrides their caution. Semi Dark-Angel/semi-generic marines wouldn't really achieve the same effect, in my opinion. Not that I think GamesWorkshop would make bad models if they did that, but....well, who can deny the angelic design looks awesome - especially when contrasted against the dark, spiky chaotic aesthetics of the Chaos Space Marines?

[energongoodie]

I really hope their are some Native American nods in their some where.

[eldargal]

Funny that, it's almost like all we have is a half dozen tiny pictures or something.:p

You've said this four times lol

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Plus, who can deny the sheer awesomeness of the Firstborn? The Lions of Caliban?

Remember, this aesthetic will also work for all of their successors too, probably some Blood Angel successors too.

[Learn2Eel]

Given what those models look like, I have high hopes for the impending Chaos release. If the Cult units are relegated to being upgrade packs, I won't really care so long as the stock Chaos Space Marine models are of a similar quality to the ones in the starter set.

EDIT: Meant Cult units like Thousand Sons/Plague Marines in the original post, not actual Cultists lol.

[StraightSilver]

I had convinced myself that I wasn't going to buy this starter set, as I don't play Chaos and have never really liked Dark Angels. I can't explain why I don't like them, I have just never got excited about their aestehetic.

It would have been the first time ever that i didn't buy the boxed set, but that was a good thing as I already have waaaay too many unpainted figures and can't afford to start another army.

However having seen these pics I am now convinced that this will be the most impressive boxed edition GW have produced to date, and I must have it!!!

I would say that GW have taken the lessons learned from Space Hulk and Dread Fleet and applied that to this box, as the quality of the sculpts far exceeds any previous editions.

And the fact that I don't play Blood Angels didn't stop me buying Space Hulk, so I reckon it won't stop me buying this box either.

I do agree though that the Cultists look more Traitor Guard than Cultist, but we have only seen one and there are 20 in the box so we might get a nice surprise.

For me though the Cultists are perfect, as I have always wanted to do a Slaaneshi Traitor army, and these guys look awesome for that.

And as for the Chaos stuff, well it looks amazing. maybe I could get some daemonettes and ally up with the boxed contents.

Anybody wanna swap some dark Angels? ;)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'm already swapping with alshrive. :p

[eldargal]

http://www.geekpics.net/images/2012/08/17/9zJc3.jpg
...Why a white monobrow?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Because Lions always have monobrows, it's a gene-seed deficiancy. :p

[Wolfshade]

Because in the 41st millenium "Just for men: eyebrows" is no longer available

[eldargal]

Just slap a purity seal between their eyes, wait for the wax to dry, whip it off. That or tweezers.

Someone leak some decent pictures already.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Just slap a purity seal between their eyes, wait for the wax to dry, whip it off. That or tweezers.

Someone leak some decent pictures already.

THAT'S GRIM!
That'd even bring a tear to an Astartes. :p

I know... I want to see the Deathwing!!

[DrLove42]

Someone said that it was rumoured they'd start being shipped soon to stores for preview copies. But seeing as i didn't think stores did Black Boxes any more i don't know how true

But WD is out in a week, i'm sure we'll see stuff before then

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw stuff this afternoon.

[Learn2Eel]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw stuff yesterday.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Because Lions always have monobrows, it's a gene-seed deficiancy. :p

The truth about the schism is out! Luther wanted to wax, the Lion was determined to remain manly. Thus, Caliban was destroyed.

I'm stoked just from looking at these runty little pics!
DA allies for my BA army! Old-school Angels of Death baby!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

The truth about the schism is out! Luther wanted to wax, the Lion was determined to remain manly. Thus, Caliban was destroyed.

I would love to see the series of events that led to Caliban's destruction. :D

[DrLove42]

The final critical strike on the hair wax production facility, deep in Calibans core was what finally broke the planet in Twain.

The Lion isn't in stasis, he's sealed in a ginat congealed lump of gel, and rumours stae that when freed he will hide in shame under his body hair grows back

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Hahahaha! Suppose it explains the hoods. :D

[eldargal]

It also explains why the SoB still launch regular missions to claim large amounts of Caliban wax for 'purity seals'.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Brazilian Waxes anyone?

[eldargal]

Technically Caliban waxes.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Brazilian Waxes anyone?

What the...? What's going on here? Mods aren't supposed to assist in derailing a thread are they? This 6th edition starter box thread has officially become infected with sillyness! Now if you will excuse me, my Blood Angel's need to go raid that SoB convoy. We need to remain chiseled, hairless and sparkly; like true modern day vampires!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It's funny, plus, have you SEEN my sig?

Also, still on topic. :p

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Aha! Not using the "Mod Voice". Very well carry on!

[Wolfshade]

Treat your Rhino with Caliban Wax, it really brings back that just rolled of the production line shine. Problems with hertic scratching your Rhino, no problem Caliban Colour Wax blends those scratches right out.
Buy your Caliban Wax now from all good retailers

[eldargal]

I'll tip off Saint Buffy.

What the...? What's going on here? Mods aren't supposed to assist in derailing a thread are they? This 6th edition starter box thread has officially become infected with sillyness! Now if you will excuse me, my Blood Angel's need to go raid that SoB convoy. We need to remain chiseled, hairless and sparkly; like true modern day vampires!

[da_WaaaghMaster]

I'll tip off Saint Buffy.

Damn Eldar always interfering with the lesser races attempts to remain smooth and sleek.

[DrLove42]

If it helps we're not tipping them off to cause damage to you.

We're tipping them off because in 2000 years that stolen gel will cause a single Eldar guardian a slight allergic reaction

[eldargal]

Damn hairy human corpsegod cuddling cretins making our guardians get a slight rash...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Wow, Farseers are so considerate.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

LOL! I've got a slight rash on my "Guardians", says the agitated Farseer.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

This is why the DE epilate everyone! Power from Pain! Plus lasting smoothness and less iritation's always a bonus! ;)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh my. O_O

[Wolfshade]

I'll tip off Saint Buffy.

Saint Buffy is doing despicable things with Deamon Spike

[eldargal]

Daemon Spike is just what she calls her favourite candelabra.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

So Saint Buffy does despicable things with her favorite candelabra then? Ouch.

[DrLove42]

Unfortunatly i think i've seen that somewhere on the internet

[Wolfshade]

So it was Saint Buffy, with the candelabra in the billard room?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh my.

Now we're off-topic.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Oh my.

Now we're off-topic.

YAY! Finally. Use the Mod Voice so it's a legit rebuke! :D

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Better?

[Wolfshade]

I wonder if the Space Marines could be painted as Rainbow Warriors?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

No, because that Chapter no longer exists.

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Yep, thx! I just wanted to see it in action (while not directed at me of course). Such awesome power should never be wielded be a mere mortal though, surely?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I am no mortal.

I am the embodiment of Change and Fate!

[da_WaaaghMaster]

I am no mortal.

I am the embodiment of Change and Fate!

Hrm. Well I'm glad we cleared that up! You might just be over-qualified for the job though. A being so omnipotent might be tempted to delve into all sorts of tom-foolery, skullduggery and all around shenanigans ;)

NVM, that's why the Mod Voice is separate. It's becoming clear now!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

You can never predict me. :p

[da_WaaaghMaster]

Quite. Prediction requires a consistent pattern. There is no consistency or pattern apparent. Just random insanity! Conversely, that's the best kind of insanity :D

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I removed my own character from the game because I kept staring at a portal and gaining masses of insanity points! Then he became a villain later in the campaign. :p

[da_WaaaghMaster]

I removed my own character from the game because I kept staring at a portal and gaining masses of insanity points! Then he became a villain later in the campaign. :p

There you have it. Indisputable proof. INSANITY! It's more fun playing a villain anyways.

Edit: for some reason that cultist reminds me of a shoota boy for some reason.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Dr Love, I linked to it in the OP.

[Defenestratus]

Here's to Ezekiel getting BETTER RULES...

Not until they fix the nightwing :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

GRRRRRRRRR.

Get out Eldar, you don't belong here. :p

I've only said about Ezekiel once, and to be fair, your BEST PSYKER isn't only level 1.

[DrLove42]

The good thing is, that the box set usually comes with a set of quick rules for the models in the box.

So we'll get a preview of the rules of chaos and DA early

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Indeed. I want to know how good their Librarians are....
Wonder if they'll release any new powers?

[Learn2Eel]

Hell to the Librarians, I want to know how awesome Chaos Sorcerers will be!
Seriously, if they don't have better witchfire powers than the other codexes do at the moment....I think I'll burst. These guys are 10,000 years old, and sorcerers have always been more offensive-minded than Librarians.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[Learn2Eel]

Damn that guy annoyed me in Dawn of War. Shut up already Isador!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Good thing he's dead. :p

[The Madman]

http://youtu.be/O03WLn8SzaE?t=29s

That is all.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Pahahaha! I know the one.

[jimmehmaca]

the teaser is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71V-M85mfw&feature=player_embedded

[jimmehmaca]

http://youtu.be/O03WLn8SzaE?t=29s

That is all.

beat me to it

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Sexilicious!

[Dru]

Well my Dark angels company just got some new recruits. 6th company it is for them. Glad the Chaos stuff is generic , I wants looking forward to a million black legion forces .

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

:D Very pleased with the look of Chaos, leagues better than "Loyalist wiv spikes" marines. The backpacks are an excellent design too. Hope the Chaos Lord's weapon is a crazy Daemonsword rather than the rumored Power Sword - having a ridiculous, over the top Daemon Weapon would really balance what is an otherwise Dark Angels-favoring match-up.

Cultist is okay, pretty Vraksian. Something feels off about the left arm, though.

[Gotthammer]

I wonder if the Space Marines could be painted as Rainbow Warriors?


No, because that Chapter no longer exists.


TDA, I'm sorry, but now I'm going to have to destroy you :p

[ragnarcissist]

what would be easier, converting these DA to space wolves or to chaos... probably chaos... ugh i want so bad

[Rissan4ever]

Need bigger pictures, the chap in the robe looks ok but the rest are a bit dull. What's with the gimp mask thing? Traitor Guardsmen? I hope it isn't a cultist.

I believe it is a cultist, done in the style of the Forgeworld traitors. And I think he looks fantastic!

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

No, because that Chapter no longer exists.In the 5th ed. Space Marine 'dex with the big ol' starmap, there's a planet named "Prism" which belongs to "<record deleted>". However, the heraldry next to it is the Rainbow Warrior symbol :D

Have ya seen this? (http://www.philipsibbering.com/wh40k/10-06-01-reimage-rainbow-warriors.shtml) Every time I read it I want to make a Rainbow Warrior army.

[Rissan4ever]

In the 5th ed. Space Marine 'dex with the big ol' starmap, there's a planet named "Prism" which belongs to "<record deleted>". However, the heraldry next to it is the Rainbow Warrior symbol :D

Have ya seen this? (http://www.philipsibbering.com/wh40k/10-06-01-reimage-rainbow-warriors.shtml) Every time I read it I want to make a Rainbow Warrior army.

Go for it! Feel the power of the rainbow!

http://images.wikia.com/mlp/images/9/95/Rainbow_Dash_Wonderbolt_fantasy_S1E3.png

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

I guess the Conversion Beamer's fluff never explicitly said it doesn't fire Sonic Rainbooms, so I'm forced to conclude that it does.

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWf3Z4prnGc

[eldargal]

I think that is the problem I have with them. They look like traitor Guardsman, I was expecting cultists. It would be a bit like expecting to get new Space Marine scouts and and getting regular power armoured Marines with shotguns. You're expecting lightly armoured chaps with nl their corruptd faith to drive them and get paramilitaries in what looks like military grade armour. Perfectly viable as cultists go (they may have taken control of an armoury) but just not at all what I was expecting.

I believe it is a cultist, done in the style of the Forgeworld traitors. And I think he looks fantastic!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

In the 5th ed. Space Marine 'dex with the big ol' starmap, there's a planet named "Prism" which belongs to "<record deleted>". However, the heraldry next to it is the Rainbow Warrior symbol :D

Have ya seen this? (http://www.philipsibbering.com/wh40k/10-06-01-reimage-rainbow-warriors.shtml) Every time I read it I want to make a Rainbow Warrior army.

It does not exist!

Move along. :p

[Kyban]

I think that is the problem I have with them. They look like traitor Guardsman, I was expecting cultists. It would be a bit like expecting to get new Space Marine scouts and and getting regular power armoured Marines with shotguns. You're expecting lightly armoured chaps with nl their corruptd faith to drive them and get paramilitaries in what looks like military grade armour. Perfectly viable as cultists go (they may have taken control of an armoury) but just not at all what I was expecting.

Yeah, I was expecting robes and daggers style. I'm not sure I like the chaos theme they're going for based on these pictures. :(

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Look like Cultists to me...

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

They look more like the kind of cybergoths you'd find in a london goth-industrial club to me. All that's missing is the neon plastic hair extensions. Maybe the Slaanesh Noise marines have been feeding them too much litteral powernoise.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

You mean Cyberpunk. :p

Also, 1919 people looking at the thread!

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

You mean Cyberpunk. :p

Also, 1919 people looking at the thread!

Cyberpunk actually looks good though. These cultists (or cultist lol) are more combichrist rather than front line assembly.:p

[Mephistonsrage]

Wish i could find some of the old Necromunda figs again. I loved the gangs.

[Gotthammer]

It does not exist!

Move along. :p

How 'bout this one then (http://collegiatitanica.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/yet-more-de-blood-angeled-terminators.html) ;)



-

The armoured cultists is probably because they didn't want to use thier old cultist design where they look like they're part of the KKK.

[CouchViking]

F*CK YOU GAMES WORKSHOP. STOP TAKING ALL OF MY GODS BE DAMNED MONEY.

/rant

took the words right out of my mouth

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

How 'bout this one then (http://collegiatitanica.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/yet-more-de-blood-angeled-terminators.html) ;)

LIES! All of it lies!

Lies = HERESY! *BLAM!*

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

LIES! All of it lies!

Lies = HERESY! *BLAM!*BLAMMING cannot withstand rainbow friendship. Brace yourself.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Brace yourselves, friendship is coming.

[doogansquest]

Need bigger pictures, the chap in the robe looks ok but the rest are a bit dull. What's with the gimp mask thing? Traitor Guardsmen? I hope it isn't a cultist.

You can't be serious, right? These are the best "starter set" minis of any game in existence.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

from WARSEER member - superdupermatt
http://img.tapatalk.com/d5cde0bf-884f-458c.jpg

Not bad eh?

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

EVERYTHING !!

http://imgur.com/a/eZEVT#A3PsA

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

MOTHER OF GODS! TAKE MY MONEY! ALL OF IT!

FOR THE LION! FOR CALIBAN!

xD

[Kyban]

Looks like I may not get it after all, just doesn't strike me as decent conversion material, :(

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

And the fixed pic of teh cultists :

http://i.imgur.com/IfBcm.jpg

All these pics were from Kijamon on warseer, so thanks very much dude

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh my days!
Where are the Death/Ravenwing?

[Malachi]

I like those cultists. They have a sufficient look of "rag-tag band" for me.

[MarneusCalgar]

Holy god!!!

Shut up, gw, and take all my money while you can!!

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Oh heavens I am pleased.

The Hellbrute's interesting, like everything but the toes. The cultists are pretty good, I think they'll look much better grouped up as a squad rather than lined up in rows.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Oh heavens I am pleased.

Same here, exceed my expectations. The chaos stuff actually looks like the artwork for the first time ever.

Way to make me feel like an inadequate sculptor, Games Workshop. Gonna be a long road to get to THAT level.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Xeno! Bring me the Ravenwing!

[Atrocity]

So. Damn. Pretty.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Deathwing and ravenwing : http://i.imgur.com/dcwEG.jpg

This is going to make quitting smoking even easier for me, no wonder they call it plasticrack.

[lattd]

The champion looks like dante from devil may cry. Hell brute looks epic

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Same here, exceed my expectations. The chaos stuff actually looks like the artwork for the first time ever.

Way to make me feel like an inadequate sculptor, Games Workshop.Yeah, all of these have a level of bling and mutation outshining even the most converted of my Chaos Lords ;o; First chaos marine models I want to just buy and paint just as they are out of the box, no conversions I can think of to really step those up.

Maybe that's why they're all Chosen and Lords - if they passed these guys off as standard Chaos Marines, who'd buy the current plastic box? :P

I'm buying the hell out of these, might relegate my current chaos marines to being mercenary allies to a force built around these chaps.

Edit: Must... not... start Deathwing army. ;o;

[Bracchus]

Really nice looking chaos marines! The DA minis looked rather standard.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Yeah, all of these have a level of bling and mutation outshining even the most converted of my Chaos Lords ;o; First chaos marine models I want to just buy and paint just as they are out of the box, no conversions I can think of to really step those up.

Maybe that's why they're all Chosen and Lords - if they passed these guys off as standard Chaos Marines, who'd buy the current plastic box? :P

I'm buying the hell out of these, might relegate my current chaos marines to being mercenary allies to a force built around these chaps.

Edit: Must... not... start Deathwing army. ;o;

Yeah, I've never been keen on any of the current plastic chaos infantry kits - and every time a normal marine army got updated, it made them look more and more dated. Never felt the chaos marine imagery was truly done justice in miniature form.....well until now. I feel like I need to work even harder on my sculpting now :rolleyes:

Also another massive thanks to Kijamon for taking and putting up these pics!

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Really nice looking chaos marines! The DA minis looked rather standard.:P I think that's just the effect of seeing them next to the damn-near revamped Chaos Marines. The Dark Angels, especially the Death/Ravenwings, have sharper, sleeker detail than the normal minis (compare the wings on the prow of the bikes to the standard Ravenwing kit, for instance. Less chunky, moar awesome).

[MarneusCalgar]

Did anyone see this??

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[Asymmetrical Xeno]

"Sadly no, no mention of any new codices. However, they are only showing partially what they are releasing each month so the codexes might not be far behind."


ah well..no biggie!

"The starter set will contain:
1 Dark Angels Company Master 1 Dark Angels Librarian 5 Deathwing Terminators 10 Dark Angel Tactical Marines 3 Ravenwing Bikes 1 Interrogator-Chaplain(only white supplies last of Dark Vengeance Box Set)
1 Chaos Lord 6 Chosen 1 Helbrute 20 Chaos Cultists
48p How To Play Booklet 1 Reference Sheet 168p Rulebook 1 Flamer Template 1 Small Blast Marker 1 Large Blast Marker 1 Dice Pack 2 Range Rulers
It will cost 65 pounds and be available 1 september."


Those worrying it wouldnt include a mini-rulebook can relax (allthough id of thought it went without saying?), I'm guessing the 48p how to play booklet has the rules and stats for the DA and chaos miniatures included. I wonder if there will be any fluff on the battle it's centred around tghough?

"The Interrogator Chaplain is a strictly limited edition model exclusive to the Dark Vengeance Boxed game. However, this miniature will only be included while stocks last, so be sure not to miss out!"


so it sounds like there arent multiple version sof the starter set, just that a limited amount have the chaplain? guess it's a way to get people to buy it ASAP. It'll work on me at least.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

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[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh, my, god!

[Dlatrex]

I spy the Hellbrute being WS 4 BS 4... should be interesting!

[Deadlift]

Hellbrute, looks great. Despite what some rumours saying "its not" a dreadnought. Sure as hell looks like one to me. But not disappointed by that at all.

DA are in danger of looking a bit too much like BA in some areas, with all those wing motifs.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

It never really truly felt like a new edition had arrived until the starter set was released. each starter set just seems to represent the "era" is based within.

I like the evil black box. Makes it look more serious.

Those red measuring ruler sticks look more flat compared to the old ones that you use to thwack your opponents with in the face (or is it just me that does that?).

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

<3!!!

That Chosen with Power Maul would make a fantastic Tzeentchian Sorcerer with a quick weaponswap. Hmmm. Can't wait to see the sprues, hoping an exacto knife and my bitz box could turn several ebayed sets of the Chosen into an army.

[MarneusCalgar]

Is that one Cypher?

After the small rules booklet...

AMAZING

[da_WaaaghMaster]

The champion looks like dante from devil may cry. Hell brute looks epic

I was going to say the cultist champ looks like Billy Idol after a bender...

[Defenestratus]

I think that I'm the only one out there that is going "meh" to the models.

They're mighty fine models, I just couldn't be bothered to purchase them.

[RGilbert26]

I'm going to get two boxes and swap the dark angels for more chaos, so that's 4 lords, 24 chosen, 40 cultists and 4 brutes, oh 2 limited chaplains, hell yeah.

[snikrot]

Is there going to be an exclusive chaos model?

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Oh good grief.

I don't play either of these armies, but consarn it, those minis are making me drool.

[Bigred]

Once every 6-7 years Terra passes through the warp anomaly labeled by the Navis Nobilitae as the "whippy stick belt". After harvest of the red instruments of pain by Battlefleet Solar, they are returned to Holy Terra, heralding the introduction of a new edition! It is a time of jubilation and flagellation as a new generation of gamers is introduced to the blisters, hijinx and "good enough for government work" measuring capabilities of the whippy-sticks. Let the games begin!

[Cap'nSmurfs]

I think I still have mine from Battlefleet Gothic somewhere. :D

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

Wow, just wow. Now I'm going to buy two sets.

[Rapture]

The problem with the starter sets is that, no matter how great the models are, when one out of every two Dark Angels/Chaos Space Marines players has them, they lose almost any appeal.

At least they did not make any models as horrible as the Space Marine Captain from the 5th Edition set. He was horrible and it seemed that he determined to stay that way no matter how much conversion time people put into him.

Edit:
Scratch that about nothing being so awful - I just made the mistake of zooming in on the cultist champion. Woof.

[Cpt Codpiece]

OMG old school chaos :eek::D:D:D

they look like the old space crusade dudes (with the horns and masks the same OMG OMG so excited!!!!

cultists look amazing too, they should look necromunda like, thats the stiock they are drawn from.

[Archon]

With every new Starter-Box the Models look more awesome - here the choosen are my favorite.

I wonder how the models of the starter of the 10th editon will look like;)

[Renegade]

Seen some of the other pics as well... OMFG! These are beautiful, the Chaos stuff is just fantastic!

[KrewL RaiN]

Well, looks like GW eats all my money yet again lol

[RGilbert26]

I thought they were called eye pokers as children are known to poke other kids eyes out with them.

[JxKxR]

I can't wait till it comes out! These will be the only minis I've bought in a year and half. :D

Thank the plastic Gods!

[Uhr]

Well; I am of mixed feelings with the new models, though I'll get that set as soon as it is available.
Here are my humble thoughts of the models (this might change seeing models first hand), Dark Angels only because I have no need for Chaos models:

Company Master
Well I am a bit worried he has sleeves, and that overall wizard-like robes makes me dislike the model seriously. Wings on the helmet look really weird, like its a sticker or a drawing on flat plates. Pose is great though, an echo of Ezekiel; which again is sort of a minus because Ezekiel should stay unique as it was.
Rating 2/5

Librarian
Great dynamic pose, that begs for a jump-pack. Again, I dislike that wizard robe elements of the robes which were always plain monastic and that adds more to the dark hermetic theme we have (or had). I also don't like tabards on our models, since it is a signature look for the Black Templars; please GW lets stay on robes for the Unforgiven.
Rating 4/5

Interrogator-Chaplain
Awesome model, but I will for sure remove that ugly fantasy-like smoke from the censers, or probably remove the whole thing since it doesn't seem it can be removed without affecting the censer details. What I really hate about this model it's that is limited edition, since we don't know what are the terms of its limit. I remember that beautiful limited edition Company Master was limited to Dark Angels Battleforce for USA market, and that sucked for the rest of us; nowadays that single model runs on Ebay for 70+ GBP. Having said that, it doesn't affect my rating of that model, at all. I love it!
Rating 5/5

Deathwing Terminator Squad
First of all; THOSE SILLY WINGS HAVE TO GO! That Sergeant looks like a Easter bunny! Thank God it is plastic, so I'll shave it of without problems. Other than that, models are good; even the Assault Cannon model though he looks like a pouting crybaby. I don't like that two out of five of the models are identical, it is obvious no matter how GW tried to hide it by turning one to the side; they are the same (on the picture models left of the Chain Fist model). Good amount of feathers, Dark Angels details, and most importantly ritual swords is what boosts their value to me.
Rating 3/5

Ravenwing Bike Squadron
I really like them, great models. They will be my first Ravenwing models (yes, I don't have any Ravenwing models yet, no matter I have over 5K pts of Dark Angels) One more important thing for me is that they don't challenge old Ravenwing bikers, so RW players won't feel bad with models they already have.
Rating 5/5

Dark Angels Tactical Squad
Well, I really hate that Sergeant because he has a tabard; again we are not Black Templars (though I see this as GW wanting to sell some of Dark Angels stuff to both Unforgiven and Black Templar players). GW please sort Your notes; Dark Angels = monastic robes / Black Templars = knightly tabards! Strong Plasma presence shows that GW still keeps enforcing that theme on us; though personally I never fielded Plasmagun or Plasma Cannon with my Tactical Squad. So about the models; well, Plasma Cannon one is a good model, but the rest of the models are not very diverse. There are only 4 different models, aside from Sergeant and Plasma Cannon marine; even the Plasmagun model has it's clone in the squad, just wielding a Boltgun instead. AoBR set Tactical Squad had more different models, however they might be static, these for this new set are not that much dynamic either.I am really not impressed, and even Dark Angels shoulder markings cannot get them better standing; for me this squad is the worst element of the box. Having already 6 full Tactical Squads with all the options, and now being offered with these poor models trying to be stamped as Dark Angels just because they have a Plasma squad loadout doesn't work for me; at all. I have no real place for them, and even less desire for them and will probably trade them together with Chaos models from the box; though I will keep the Plasma Cannon model, and will see if I can convert Sergeant tabard into robes.
Rating 1/5

TOTAL RATING (Dark Angels models): 3/5

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PS: Small Rulebook is always useful, so it is a great bonus for the purchase of the set.

[Liazardman]

Pictures have already been posted.

[billytwix]

i sure do hope that the "limited edition" doesn't sell out in 5 minutes... leaving all the other boxes without the interrogator chap for DA. that would be quite unfortunate, and possibly the deal breaker for me buying the set. :/ bummin

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Quick scan of the thread didn't reveal these. Credit to Warseer for the original links:They were mentioned a few pages back, but only as links, so easy to miss. Would you mind turning the cultists pic into a link? It's stretching the thread out a bunch :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

OP has been updated to include pics

[JxKxR]

That cultist champion with shotgun just looks to goofy. Like he just scarfed down some cherry pie and can't stop grinning.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

That cultist champion with shotgun just looks to goofy. Like he just scarfed down some cherry pie and can't stop grinning.I thinnnnk that weird mouth is actually a grotesque (weird halfmask thing, a nod to the Blood Pact traitor guard in some of the Gaunt's Ghosts books). If it's painted as a dull iron instead of leather it'll probably look a lot better. The pose leaves something to be desired, but that's the curse of him being what looks like a 1-piece figure.

[Username]

I didn't read all the posts, so i'm not sure i this was known yet.

But a friend of mine who works for GW UK told me that unlike the AoBL models, none of these are snap fit, they go together just like any regular box of models would.

AND

*Drumroll*

I was shown a picture of the new chaos dreadnought thing, the best way to decribe it is an obliterator dreadnought.

The legs resemble a dreadnought's and so does the lower torso connecting the legs, the upper torso is box like but organic at the same time, tons of horns bursting through the armor and instead of a plate over the front, a CSM's head screaming, looks to be sporting some kind of heavy combi weapon with two large barrels, and a long close combat arm with a claw like hand.

That is all.

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

You mean like this, Username? ;)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v4Deq6YNt4I/UC6ZLNfgcJI/AAAAAAAAJec/CGj7jxjdmmM/s1600/yFPM8h.jpg

[Saint_Anger]

The hellbrute is awesome. It looks like kind of possed chaos dreadnought.

[Kawauso]

I love the dynamic pose of the Hellbrute, and all the neat bling on it...but I hate the possessed gribbly bits.

I hope the new CSM dreadnought kit will allow for some sort of middle ground. I'd love to make a really awesome-looking Thousand Sons dread without any mutation nonsense.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

I love the dynamic pose of the Hellbrute, and all the neat bling on it...but I hate the possessed gribbly bits.

I hope the new CSM dreadnought kit will allow for some sort of middle ground. I'd love to make a really awesome-looking Thousand Sons dread without any mutation nonsense.Hoping that Chaos Dreads/Hellbrutes have the same kinda relationship as Dreads/Ven. Dreads.

Also, interesting that the Hellbrute has a Power Fist rather than a DCCW (although this makes no difference on a Walker), and it lacks a storm bolter/heavy flamer.

[Emerald Rose Widow]

I think I just Modelgasmed

[Lukas The Trickster]

Good effort GW, the chaos models are brilliant and are really evocative of the 3rd edition artwork and models that I remember as a teenager, but with better sculpting. The cultist models are simple but fantastic, I bet they will pop up in many conversions. My only slight criticism is that some of the DA models still have slightly wooden poses, particularly the Deathwing 'here I am with my assault cannon' terminator - the sculptors missed a trick with these, particularly in light of the plastic Blood Angels terminators in the Space Hulk boxed set, but still not bad. Anyone care to speculate on the price? With the rulebook and models I am guessing around £75 mark?

[Wildcard]

Oh my.. No matter how i see it, if two friends are gonna buy the set, the one getting Dark Angels is going to be eternally jealous..

I mean,
- Those plain Tacticals (and their red bolters :) ) compared to the chosen chaos marines.
- Chaos Lord versus Company Master (or Librarian). Even tho this match up way more equal than the Tacts vs Chosen.
- Terminators would have been great to see, if they would have made any difference in the total equation, but those and bikes has to be awesome to be able to balance the "coolness" level of the forces (even more so, when hellbrute is added to the equation).

[The Madman]

i'm betting that the "how to Play" booklet cover will be the new Dark Angel Codex cover as it resembles the style of the fantasy ones.

[eldargal]

See, this is why I wanted bigger pictures. Everything looks really great, even the cultists (seriously thanks to whomever posted the original pictures for picking the least interesting cultist to photograph).

I love the Ravenwing models, though given that they were described as being incredibly dynamic, I really don't think they are.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I wanted one of them to have a Raven or something.

As I was saying to a friend, these models are nearly Space Hulk standard.

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

See, this is why I wanted bigger pictures. Everything looks really great, even the cultists (seriously thanks to whomever posted the original pictures for picking the least interesting cultist to photograph).

I have to agree with the cultist comment. There are way better ones in the set to show.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I like the guy who's got a hood and the 2 part rebreather. :D

[Learn2Eel]

Damn!
The Hellbrute's rules sound ace. Looks to be the Chaos Dreadnought, but no more Crazed. It instead gets the Rampage USR - an extra D3 attacks if enemies outnumber allies in a combat. Combine with Rage from the Mark of Khorne and a power fist.....
Buh-bye squad lol.
If it has 3 attacks base, you could have potentially 8 power fist attacks at Initiative order (it's a walker, it ignores unwieldy) which is insane. That's if the rumours are true....
Oh by the way - Tzeentch with heavy flamers = flamestorm cannons!

[mallet_man]

Think the Hellbrute is supposed to be infantry possibly / MC rather than vehicle, the chaos chosen models look amazing thinking of using them for aspiring champions in the normal chaos units! If this is how good the chaos are looking in the starter set can't wait to see how good the new codex models look in a couple weeks!!!! I thought the dark angels might have more cloaks though but i guess that was more of a veteran thing! Still for a starter set the whole thing is another step up from Isle of Blood, will be interesting to see if the models are not snap fit!