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    These bad boys appear to be the Skaven take on the Mortarch or Maggoth level characters, rather than the bloody enormous one....
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    Thematically, not being the general makes sense. They're daemons of the Horned Rat who appear to aid the Skaven in war, not to lead the armies. That's still up to the Grey Seers and Warlords. Sure, it kind of sucks in terms of having to put more points into characters, but eh, if you want a big nasty monster with lots of special rules, that's the sacrifice you have to make.

    As for them being utility, that's basically what the current Vermin Lord is. It's what a lot of monsters end up being, even character monsters. But you can throw the weight of a large mob of Stormvermin in with them, or a block of Rat Ogres, or even a Hellpit Abomination or two (though that's somewhat less reliable in terms of getting there and all).

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    I agree that thematically it makes sense, however from a gaming perspective it is a pretty sizable disadvantage unfortunately.

    I can't figure out which one I like most, the one that can re-roll the casting attempt for The Dreaded 13th/Curse of the Horned Rat should be hilarious, unfortunately if you use End Times Magic rules then it becomes unreliable due to the random dice usage for spells and dispels.
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  4. #34

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    Looking forward to tonight's pre-order window, just in case the book is going up!
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    Yep, me too. Going to be on bang on 7, not missing out again. I suspect the book won't be this week with the Verminlords dropping, but not taking any chances.
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  6. #36

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    Indeedy.

    I'm double buggered on this, as I have all the others in hardback, and am a completist weirdo. So I have to get this one in hardback too!
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    I've ended up with one hardback, one collectors edition and one ebook, so any chance of me being completist has gone out the window unless I buy them all again in paperback.
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    Yarp.

    Other downside is the scalpers seem set to make me angry all over again.
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  9. #39

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    I will be there bang on 1900 UK time to make sure I get mine. I have all of the previous ones in hardback and I will make sure I get this one.

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    Just under two hours to go, provided it goes up tonight and not next week.

    Gonna camp on the website from now until 7, just in case.
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