New fliers for orks and marines

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More pics after I posted initially.

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So what do ork and marine players think? They look very similar to the other ork and marine fliers so not sure what to say, does anyone know if they are made using the same chassis like they use rhino for whirlwind and razorback ect? Or are they new? Bit hard to tell if you dont play those armies.