Local Tournaments are getting weird

[Shavnir]

So a couple friends and I were talking about a tournament that was coming up and were actually cooking up some interesting lists (backward comp rules will do that to you) but then we noticed some odd things about it.

1 ) It has a 20 point category for Composition then another 10 point for Army List.
2 ) Sportsmanship scores (lol) accommodate 60 points
3 ) Appearance has meticulously detailed guidelines totaling 30 points
4 ) Gameplay's only worth 78 points

and then it got really weird

5 ) GW Errata is in effect but not the FAQs. You're expected to just kinda decide on a per-game basis I guess.
6 ) Imperial Armor is in, Apocalypse's incredibly powerful flyer rules are in but the various Apocalypse AA units are not
7 ) VDR is allowed. Holy 2004 batman.
8 ) The tournament is somehow 75 dollars without any mention of prize support

Honestly maybe I'm being a bit harsh on them but is it just me or are at least a few of these things a bit of a turn off when it comes to a tournament?

[fuzzbuket]

1 ) It has a 20 point category for Composition then another 10 point for Army List.
2 ) Sportsmanship scores (lol) accommodate 60 points
3 ) Appearance has meticulously detailed guidelines totaling 30 points
4 ) Gameplay's only worth 78 point
5 ) GW Errata is in effect but not the FAQs. You're expected to just kinda decide on a per-game basis I guess.
6 ) Imperial Armor is in, Apocalypse's incredibly powerful flyer rules are in but the various Apocalypse AA units are not
7 ) VDR is allowed. Holy 2004 batman.
8 ) The tournament is somehow 75 dollars without any mention of prize support

OMG is this the crackheads throne of gundam 10' touney???

1,2,3,4) wait so if your army looks shiny and your a nice guy you can beat the most amazing players ever?????
5) WTF
6) right thas just silly= he who buys the most expensive FW fighter/bomber wing wins???
7) be prepared to see LOtS of gundam and CA (also does this meant those who artn 40 or dont have CA cant make ther own tanks )
8) a $5 gw coupon :P



seriously this looks like "buy some FW flyers and a titan?" obiusly the host had some flyers and some custom guys he wanted to use??? and there painted nicely but he dosnt have any tactics??

[DarkAngelHopeful]

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I found my answer.

[Shavnir]

OMG is this the crackheads throne of gundam 10' touney???

1,2,3,4) wait so if your army looks shiny and your a nice guy you can beat the most amazing players ever?????
5) WTF
6) right thas just silly= he who buys the most expensive FW fighter/bomber wing wins???
7) be prepared to see LOtS of gundam and CA (also does this meant those who artn 40 or dont have CA cant make ther own tanks )
8) a $5 gw coupon :P



seriously this looks like "buy some FW flyers and a titan?" obiusly the host had some flyers and some custom guys he wanted to use??? and there painted nicely but he dosnt have any tactics??

Apparently its a tournament series that has ran for a couple years up in Canada and decided to come down to Texas

Its really just puzzling. I have no idea why they're charging $75 a head for entry to their tournament.

[GM Rex Nihilo]

Apparently its a tournament series that has ran for a couple years up in Canada.

I don't know of any tournaments up here with such a format.

$75 is too much for a tournament as it puts too much on the line for civil play. If you want to win money go to the casino!

[-=Lazuli=-]

As some one earlier mentioned, is this Astronomi-con? The earlier poster mentioned someone from Canada running the tournament is coming down.

If it is Astro I signed up for it Didn't read the points value stuff, but I know about Imperial Armor and VDR. To be fair the Flyers might not always win because the tables are supposed to be "terrain heavy" and the battles are all battle missions like.

EDIT: sounds like it is astronomi-con. It is a 2 day event and there are trophies and prizes. Read the adeptusnorth texas site, it has some info.

[Cossack]

Mike was nice with his response because he's that kind of guy. I'm not.

OMG is this the crackheads throne of gundam 10' touney???

1,2,3,4) wait so if your army looks shiny and your a nice guy you can beat the most amazing players ever?????

Yes. The whole point of the hobby is to paint up models and play games with them. The 'Most Amazing Players Ever" are the ones who do the whole thing - painting included. Some of us actually have the crazy idea that sportsmanship is more important that winning. Funny that.....

5) WTF

Simple. Mike knows more about it than you.

6) right thas just silly= he who buys the most expensive FW fighter/bomber wing wins???

Again, you do not know, yet love to pass judgement. Your statement is just wrong.

7) be prepared to see LOtS of gundam and CA (also does this meant those who artn 40 or dont have CA cant make ther own tanks )

Wrong again, and who cares if it looks good and we have fun?

8) a $5 gw coupon :P

Not for you. Apparently you don't understand WHY such a tournament would be popular.

This is a tournament FOR THE REST OF US. If you don't want to participate then don't worry about it. And the most ultimate tactical genius player of all time will not be missed if he can't do the rest of the stuff, like paint and be a good sport.

My name is Clay Smith. I will be there this weekend. Please drop by and take a look if you're in the area. And when it's over, I hope to put up a comprehensive report so everyone can see what we did.

[Melissia]

Mike was nice with his response because he's that kind of guy. I'm not.

Which makes him cool, and you a douchebag?

Yes. The whole point of the hobby is to paint up models and play games with them.

The whole point of the hobby is as a tool for GW to sell miniatures and books. Aside from that, what you do with the hobby is up to each individual person, not some lame-*** elitist.

[BuFFo]

1 ) It has a 20 point category for Composition then another 10 point for Army List.

What is the difference between Composition and Army list? Dump this crap already.

2 ) Sportsmanship scores (lol) accommodate 60 points

Ugh... Here goes the chipmunking...

3 ) Appearance has meticulously detailed guidelines totaling 30 points

Get painting the F-CK out of competitive gaming tournaments FFS!! Go enter a painting contest.

4 ) Gameplay's only worth 78 points

I assume this means getting objectives and winning? This should be 100% of the scoring.

5 ) GW Errata is in effect but not the FAQs. You're expected to just kinda decide on a per-game basis I guess.

This isn't weird at all. Erratas are official changes to all books that each player must use. FAQs are just house rules. If a tournament organizer does not wish to follow these house rules, that is their right. I have seen a few tourneys that do this.

6 ) Imperial Armor is in, Apocalypse's incredibly powerful flyer rules are in but the various Apocalypse AA units are not

Yeah.... This is just stupid.

7 ) VDR is allowed. Holy 2004 batman.

Wow... This is even dumber....

8 ) The tournament is somehow 75 dollars without any mention of prize support

Yeah.... Don't bother attending.... Especially with 3rd edition VDR rules in effect.

This tourney sounds like pure crap. Avoid it all at costs.

[Shavnir]

Somehow I knew you'd hop in on the FAQ point Buffo. I guess my complaint is it seems like a step backwards. Most tournaments try and eliminate rules debates in-game by explicitly stating how they'll be ruled ahead of time whereas it seems the organizers of this one want to encourage it.

Its just baffling.

EDIT : Nothing personal Buffo, its just that any mention regarding FAQs being official is like the bat-signal for you