British Politics Thread.

[Kirsten]

[Al Shut]

well people hardly know any other UKIP member, I suspect they will dwindle in to obscurity.

My money is on obscurity, not for the lack of Farage but because they lost a major topic. That is if the Tories follow through on the whole Brexit thing.

[CoffeeGrunt]

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/03/government-faces-worldwide-hunt-for-trade-negotiators-experts-wa/"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/03/government-faces-worldwide-hunt-for-trade-negotiators-experts-wa/[/URL]

As-predicted, the government is now looking to start recruiting more bureaucrats and legislators to handle the transition to independence. However, due to the lack of local applicants, we're hiring in persons from outside to ensure we have the correct numbers and it's done properly.

We currently have 40, and the current estimate puts us as requiring hundreds, the EU employs 550 for example. Assuming an [URL="http://www.monster.co.uk/career-advice/article/uk-average-salary-graphs"]average London annual salary [/URL]of about £35,000, that's £5,600,000 a year extra, and that's only for trade negotiators.

Thank God we voted to cut away all that bureaucracy and cost...

[Mr Mystery]

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/03/government-faces-worldwide-hunt-for-trade-negotiators-experts-wa/"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/03/government-faces-worldwide-hunt-for-trade-negotiators-experts-wa/[/URL]

As-predicted, the government is now looking to start recruiting more bureaucrats and legislators to handle the transition to independence. However, due to the lack of local applicants, we're hiring in persons from outside to ensure we have the correct numbers and it's done properly.

We currently have 40, and the current estimate puts us as requiring hundreds, the EU employs 550 for example. Assuming an [URL="http://www.monster.co.uk/career-advice/article/uk-average-salary-graphs"]average London annual salary [/URL]of about £35,000, that's £5,600,000 a year extra, and that's only for trade negotiators.

Thank God we voted to cut away all that bureaucracy and cost...

And to cut immigration

oh wait

And to save all that munneh we pump into the EU

oh wait

[Psychosplodge]

We should never really have been in the position where the country lost that skill set.

[CoffeeGrunt]

We should never really have been in the position where the country lost that skill set.

The country never had it to begin with. The article speculates that most countries don't even have nearly that many. It's mainly a requirement in order to process a massive amount of legislation in a short amount of time, rather than keeping existing legislation ongoing.

Bear in mind that the value the country gets out of renegotiating its trade deals comes from these people, so the thinking would be directed towards sinking money into getting professionals who have good contacts and good trading skills, and getting a lot of them, so we can secure better deals. Skimping on this would delay the process and get us worse deals.

Like I said, it's one part of many expenses in the time to come.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm sure we had trade negotiators at somepoint.

[Haighus]

According to CG's article, there are only about 200 true trade negotiators in the entire world, that is less than the number of countries. A skill-set that rare, they are gonna get paid a whole lot more than the London average salary I reckon. Apparently even the EU commission has been accused of not having good enough trade negotiators to construct a proper trade deal.

[Morgrim]

I was reading an article about that today. Apparently, and it strikes me as oddly, some of the best negotiators in the english-speaking world are New Zealanders. As in the UK is looking strongly to there, as there are a disproportionate amount of kiwis in the limited pool.

[Haighus]

Perhaps it's the Kiwi charm...? Does seem like an odd example to have most of the negotiators, I would've thought it would be somewhere like the US who likes to craft horrendously complex law...

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After the utter mess that was the campaigns prior to the referendum, I think it would be worth everyone signing
[URL="https://www.change.org/p/restore-truthful-politics-create-an-independent-office-to-monitor-political-campaigns?recruiter=398199128&utm_source=petitions _show_components_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=c opylink"]this petition[/URL] in an attempt to prevent such a thing happening again. Politicians seem to be incapable of being honest themselves, perhaps a body that forces them to be during campaigns would help.