Were female Primarchs the next step in the Emperor's plan?

[Guilliman's Ghost]

[CoffeeGrunt]

You brought back a year-old thread for that? C'mon man, at least try harder.

[Psychosplodge]

But is it the thread or one particular comment?

[Ravingbantha]

Typically speaking, the reasons females are, more often than not, excluded from combat roles, is because they lack the capacity to do what a male counterparts can. It's not a 'let's hate on women' thing it's a reality thing. The US military has recently allowed women into combat roles, very few have actually been able to complete that training, and the few who have, did so because the fitness standards were lowered.

A female Space Marine would simply not compete with a male Space Marine, it's a matter of physical structure. Look at the World's Strongest Woman Kati Luoto, She can Squat 254lbs. Compare that to that to the world's strongest man Brian Shaw, who can Squat 825 lbs. Katie can deadlift around 374lbs Vs. Brian doing 880 lbs. Not to knock Kati's accomplishments in any way, she can clearly lift far more than my fat butt can, but I'm trying to compare apples to apples here. A Female Space Marine would be a waist of resources, yes they would be far more powerful than any Guardsman ever thought of being, but given the investment of resources, you're only getting half to one third of the return. Men are also more prone to the type of violence that comes with warfare, that's not to say a woman can't bring that type of violence, but we are talking about diminishing returns here. While there are many great women warriors throughout history, they are the exception not the rule. Which is part of the reason we know their names. You would be hard pressed to find enough women in the galaxy with the desire to become a marine, who also have the capacity for the violence necessary, are willing to give up ever having children, and could survive the implantation process, to fill an entire chapter, much less a legion.

[CoffeeGrunt]

So you've got a list of reasons why it's unlikely, not why it's impossible.

[Path Walker]

You would be hard pressed to find enough women in the galaxy with the desire to become a marine, who also have the capacity for the violence necessary, are willing to give up ever having children, and could survive the implantation process, to fill an entire chapter, much less a legion.

House Escher of Necromunda Hive Primus. There is one good source of warrior women, on a recruiting world of the Imperial Fists, and thats only one one of the many Hives on one of the thousands of Hive Worlds. You have worlds where everyone has to be Rambo to survive, the women there, after 15,000 years, will be only to happy to join up. You think any neophyte knows what they're signing up to then they become an Astartes? The childbearing question is such a pathetic thing to bring up when aspirants are usually under 10, almost all from planets where fighting is the norm, they're survivors first and foremost.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I sincerely doubt Catachan goes easy on the ladies either, and on Cadia, it doesn't matter what gender you are, you're either hitting the target with your lasgun by age 10, or you are the target.

[Mikhail233]

You would be hard pressed to find enough women in the galaxy with the desire to become a marine, who also have the capacity for the violence necessary, are willing to give up ever having children, and could survive the implantation process, to fill an entire chapter, much less a legion.

So how do they fill Sister of battle convents?

[Andrew Thomas]

So how do they fill Sister of battle convents?

They train them out of the Schola Progenium. Anyone who has read the fluff or played Dark Heresy would know that. Like I've said before, they're less nuns with guns, more heavily armed and less peaceful Peace Corps.

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House Escher of Necromunda Hive Primus. There is one good source of warrior women, on a recruiting world of the Imperial Fists, and thats only one one of the many Hives on one of the thousands of Hive Worlds. You have worlds where everyone has to be Rambo to survive, the women there, after 15,000 years, will be only to happy to join up. You think any neophyte knows what they're signing up to then they become an Astartes? The childbearing question is such a pathetic thing to bring up when aspirants are usually under 10, almost all from planets where fighting is the norm, they're survivors first and foremost.

And utterly unsubstantiated in the fluff.

[Andrew Thomas]

Aw yiss. Moronic man-children every one of them.

Except the Khan. The Khan is cool. Go read Scars.

Good ol' Khagan. Good kid.

Vulkan? Bit of a Mary Sue, but I like him. Too bad about Angron, Konrad, and the Doublemint Twins.