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    Default Blackadder Paints a Couple of Armies:

    Dross into Gold:

    So what's Blackadder doing posting a painting thread; he doesn't know how to paint? Well I need a Space Marine army for my Thunderhawk and a Cadian army for my Tanks/Titans and Adeptus Mechanicus Priesthood Enclave again for the Titans so to show them off to their best so I decided to paint up some figures.

    Once again as with my Tyranids airbrushing foray I am totally at sea regarding painting so this learning experience for me will be of help to newly initiated into war gaming.

    I'm going to start with the Space Marines; my son with over 10 years in 40K Wargaming has progressed from a mere tyro to an accomplished painter/gamer but in the course of which has left behind literally hundreds of 'poor' to 'indifferently' finished figures so rather than plunk down beaucoup bucks for new squad kits I going to salvage the dross and turn it into gold (At least that is my intent and hope.)

    Below you see about a tenth of the derilict SM host I have to refurbish:

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/bI6UGOp.jpg[/url]


    These SM figures were in the scrap bitz box and number about 200 figures in varied states of completion and execution.

    First I divided them up into homogeneous groups:

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/8S7FvTf.jpg[/url]


    Again this is only a sampling of the number of figures I have to disassemble, clean, repair and paint.

    I employed my tried and true method of hammer and chisel to separate the figures from their bases and worried the arms, jet packs, what-have-you from the basic figures and scraped, carved, filed, and sanded the excess glue and thick paint from the figures....

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/RJD9wUw.jpg[/url]


    Next post Please...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackadder View Post
    Dross into Gold....

    Once again as with my Tyranids airbrushing foray I am totally at sea regarding painting so this learning experience for me will be of help to newly initiated into war gaming.

    I'm going to start with the Space Marines; my son with over 10 years in 40K Wargaming has progressed from a mere tyro to an accomplished painter/gamer but in the course of which has left behind literally hundreds of 'poor' to 'indifferently' finished figures so rather than plunk down beaucoup bucks for new squad kits I going to salvage the dross and turn it into gold (At least that is my intent and hope.)
    Blackadder I really am looking forward to seeing how you intend to tackle this subject, as it's something I'm trying to do myself, salvaging poorly made and poorly painted models off of eBay of the RT era and 2nd era, I guess we shall all learn together on this one....

    Though I have to say 200+ models :shocked:
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    Well the 200 refers to the individual figures of 5 or six armies; still too many to just discard (I can't abide waste; anathema I know in this 'disposable' society but I am stuck with this mindset)

    Of course it's a judgement call, I'm not going to spend a lot of time cleaning and repairing garbage. Some of these figures only have a coat of prime and some are bare styrene. Most of the cleaning only requires paring off glued seams buildup.

    Pieces that are too far gone can be used as hors de combat in related scenery.

    There are quite a few metal figures as well.

    The theme I am adopting is a basic black and 'Death World Forest' green which suits my understated taste:

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/lnrlqWn.jpg[/url]


    and will go well with my proposed Thunderhawk and IG Cadians scheme.
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    Ohh I like your paint scheme for your Marines! What is the name of the Chapter?
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    I'm not really sure what constitutes a "Chapter" but these are called 'Pit Vipers'; now whether this is a squad name or a chapter name needs to be clarified with someone with more acumen than I possess.

    All I know is that it is not on the 'Lexicon' list of chapters.

    [url]http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Forces_(List)#.U5RCVfldV8H[/url]
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    Dreadnoughts:

    There are only two complete Dreadnoughts that I can find; one metal and one plastic. I disassembled them as far as practical, filed the mating surfaces for a flush fit (especially the metal one that bore a resemblance more so to a piece of slag than a combat vessel.)

    I filed the hood lines to crisp up the corners and re-assembled with sparing drops of cyanoacrylate glue......

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/r1nFyxu.jpg[/url]


    These lump-like constructions are the better for simplistic paint schemes because the highly ornate paint work tends to obliterate their already murky lines.

    The unfortunate Chaos model is missing exhaust pack and leg assemblies.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/9pwjGdu.jpg[/url]


    Dreadnoughts are not among my favorite 40K denizens being more refugees from 'Silent Running' so I'm going to use them for practicing paint schemes.
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    Glued For the Ages:

    Okay before I go too far into this tutorial/ Learning experience I have to make a comment on model assembly. Now I know for a fact that these models were not built by my son because he got them from a friend.

    For the life of me I cannot fathom why anyone would glue together the entire model before painting; at least the hard to reach places. Paint it first then glue it together. And what gluing!!!!! I had to hammer seams, pry, Literally snap the model apart on two of the cycles to get the driver out of the seat! YA DON'T NEED THAT MUCH GLUE!!!!! Scrap a bit of the paint off were the pieces join and put on a small drop of glue.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/Mk5QSEy.jpg[/url]


    That way as your skills improve you can disassemble the model with ease and upgrade your work.

    Now nothing I did was irreparable because I've had a lot of practice. Chances are that no one will see the dissection seams but wouldn't it be easier to use a bit of discretion when gluing ????

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/XYqVJtF.jpg[/url]


    Now that I've got that off my chest I can proceed with the painting.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/1aLop09.jpg[/url]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackadder View Post
    Well the 200 refers to the individual figures of 5 or six armies; still too many to just discard (I can't abide waste; anathema I know in this 'disposable' society but I am stuck with this mindset)

    Of course it's a judgement call, I'm not going to spend a lot of time cleaning and repairing garbage. Some of these figures only have a coat of prime and some are bare styrene. Most of the cleaning only requires paring off glued seams buildup.

    Pieces that are too far gone can be used as hors de combat in related scenery.

    There are quite a few metal figures as well.

    The theme I am adopting is a basic black and 'Death World Forest' green which suits my understated taste:

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/lnrlqWn.jpg[/url]


    and will go well with my proposed Thunderhawk and IG Cadians scheme.
    Still 200 hundred plus is a nice amount, I have around 100 marines myself of which I know 80% was brought brand new (though 25% of that 80% needed stripping down due to a failed paintjob) the remaining 20% are second hand, some of which... well some are so badly put together and one even looks like a huge blob due to bad use of of undercoat spray, that they will need some serious surgery to get right

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    Oh and I like that Paint scheme you intend to use, very unusual....
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    Thanks for the reply,

    Chaos Dreadnought:

    The snows fall'n and I've got a bit of a cold so I'm looking around for something simple to do and came upon these Dreadnoughts I started to refurbish last Summer.

    One SM plastic Dreadnought pretty much done but needs some embellishment on the top, the trouble is I have no idea what goes with it and I can't find it on google.

    Then I have a Metal SM Dreadnought that's also complete except for a broken left arm.

    Then we have the problem of the Chaos Dreadnought that has two right arms, no left CC weapon missing one foot and the exhaust manifold piece.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/q4GId6N.jpg[/url]


    That's where I shall start today; making those missing pieces.

    We'll start with the foot..............
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    Dude These Things Are Expensive!

    Hell I had no idea how expensive these hideous lumps of metal are.

    The three I'm playing with cost about a hundred bucks!

    So they're well worth repairing/refurbishing

    The plastic foot which I've been scratching on and off today is coming out pretty good

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/BKDOkwr.jpg[/url]


    I have to be careful to not make it too perfect otherwise it will make the metal one look too shoddy.

    Seriously there is very little consistency of measurement regarding thickness or spacing of the toes and very few of the angles approach 90° square. it only takes a degree or two on something this small to make it appear haphazardly made.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/gxkjWRh.jpg[/url]


    I purposely made the toes slightly thicker than they are suppose to be so I can file them to shape when the foot is fully assembled.

    [url]http://i.imgur.com/EZFL0aR.jpg[/url]
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