Originally Posted by
Mobious
If you tweak it just right, the Command Squad works. You can't really compare them to Thunder Shield Terminators because they have T 5 and are a much bigger threat. Dishing out a couple Melta shots, and some TL bolter shots never hurts. Plus an 18" assault without a Land Raider is also nice. Saying that they are not as tough as Nob Bikers is silly, because they are just *** tough in most cases.
Against Lascannons and S8 shots they have a 3+ versus Nobs with a 4+. Against small arms fire they have 3+/FNP which is better than 4+/FNP. Nobz have 2 wounds but they are also vulnerable to Heavy Flamers and Redeemers. No cover and no armor. Inly a 5+/4+. In the end they are tougher in certain situations, but most people shoot their big guns or send their big boys against Nobs and Command Squads.
Against Lascannons/Meltas/Vindicators and the like, the SMs are stronger. And they don't fail horribly to Dreadnoughts, where Nobs do because, 5+ does not last and having those spare Meltas on the Command Squads helps out. Command squads also beat out TH/SS and Nobs do not.
As far as Tiguirius goes, that maxed out squad is worth only 15 points less than the Command Squad. And the Command Squad is tougher in every respect, does more damage, and does not fail to Psychic hoods/Runes of Warding/Rune Priests or anything else that can shut down Tiguirius. Once that happens, you are just an overly expensive foot tact squad with some big toys. No need for Tiguirius, just get a normal Lib and drop the flamers--you have the Special ammo for that.