BoK "2012" listing

[DrLove42]

Can someone who can get onto their website link to whats been said? Their website crashes my computer

Based on the comments on the BoLs front page, i get the feeling it trashes everything that was already established and means there is nothing that isn't power armour this year?

No Tau or Templars, despite massive evidence and rumours of them is, instead DA (based entirely on the fact theres a shoulder pad ont he spine of WD)

[energongoodie]

Here you go.

"The release schedule for 40k 2012 is…
April-May: Dark Angels/Fallen
June-Aug: 6th Ed/Box Set DA vs. CSM
Oct-Nov: Chaos Space Marines/Fallen
There is no Tau, no Black Templars, no Eldar. I want this on the record so strike me down if I am wrong! I am only re-reporting this schedule because I think people have been lead astray by all the false talk of other codices.
I also want to go on the record saying that the Chaos Space Marine codex will not be two books. That was an old rumor from about 5 years ago that got resurrected last year for some infernal reason.
As well another reminder that 6th ed leak pdf is a not the real deal!"

[Gotthammer]

The picture in question is this (so far):

[eldargal]

I didn't think anyone was suggesting there would be two CSM codices? I remember CSM being in a Legions book and then rumours of a WD list for cultists, renegades and perhaps non-alinged CSM. I don't think any of that conflicts with what BoK says.

[DrLove42]

*Sigh*. Well if this turns out to be true, looks like my Tau get to spend another year in storage.

But i'm not sure I believe it. All the rumours thus far have been Tau, Templars and Chaos. They didn't get FAQ's in the last round whereas everyone else did. They are the oldest books out of the lot.

Also is everyone basing DA this and DA that just on the spine of WD? They've had no rumours, and suddenly they're getting their codex next AND are the choice for the next starter box? I didn't think GW would drop their starter box for Eldar or Sisters or Chaos as all the rumours had been, but I doubt they'll have closetted, potential chaos homosexuals as the box choice

The box needs to be 2 very different armies. One small,one horde to give people the best options when starting. Not 2 identical power armoured forces with the only distinction being "in the fluff these ones are bad, and these ones are potentially bad"

[eldargal]

I have to admit I'm sceptical about the DA vs CSM thing too, that just seems ludicrous. Marines vs other Marines? GW have never done that in a starter set. DA vs Cultists with a few CSM perhaps at a stretch, but not 'DA vs CSM'.

[Deadlift]

I have to admit I'm sceptical about the DA vs CSM thing too, that just seems ludicrous. Marines vs other Marines? GW have never done that in a starter set. DA vs Cultists with a few CSM perhaps at a stretch, but not 'DA vs CSM'.

Never say never as far as GW are concerned. Thinking about it myself I can see it happening. We all know power armour sells and if the starter box set allows you to either build 2 army's or possible combine the 2 to make 1 power armoured army GW could be onto a winner. I do find it all a bit flip flop for some of these rumour mongers. DA weren't really mentioned at all until this WD spine business came about. Maybe just maybe it's just a nice piece of artwork and has nothing to do with future releases at all. Somebody in GW is having a laugh at all this.

[eldargal]

That is certainly true, but I would expect to see non-Marines in a starter set before we see Marines vs Marines. It just makes no sense from a starter set perspective, you want to give new players the broadest possible exposure to how the game works. Giving them two virtually identical armies is antithetical to that.

[HsojVvad]

I have to admit I'm sceptical about the DA vs CSM thing too, that just seems ludicrous. Marines vs other Marines? GW have never done that in a starter set. DA vs Cultists with a few CSM perhaps at a stretch, but not 'DA vs CSM'.

GW never did or SM vs Necrons or SM vs Tau, or SM vs Eldar, so does this mean that it will never happen? Just because it never happend doesn't mean it will not happen. Remember it's only what their 6th box set so there is lots of possibilites to happpen.

Also to the perosn who is shelving their Tau. Why? Do you really need to win with plastic toy soldiers to have fun? I find it funny how alot of people say they do awsome with Tau. Not trying to flame so sorry if I did that, just wanted to understand why shelving an army that you seem to love and be pationate about.

[eldargal]

Just because something hasn't happened won't mean it will, either. You can only look at what they have done and accross both games systems, 40k and WFB, they always offer two armies with contrasting playstyles, elite vs hordes. Marines vs Spiky Marines is inconsistent with that and completely counter to GWs established pattern. This doesn't mean it won't happen but I would be very, very surprised.

Also I don't trust starter set rumours this far out. We had reliable rumours stating that Skaven Vs High Elves was definitely not happening for the 8th ed starter right up to the time pictures were leaked a few days before GW announced it.