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It's kind of ironic that both of the big new releases for the Eldar are largely considered not worth taking or only worth taking in very, very limited roles.

Bingo. Even the "they are a counter-assault unit" argument is weak as there are other units that could perform this and *also* be useful in other roles.

This.

The Banshee mask is near worthless. In 95% of attacks the Banshees would have attacked first anyway (not counting cover) so what's the point of the mask? Your paying points for wargear (it's...

Is it fun or lonely to be that far above everyone else? I'd imagine the latter, but I'm curious.

I see what you are saying. Challenging the "design" isn't the same as saying it's weak or it's...

I think when the dust clears we'll see this Codex somewhere in the middle, maybe slightly on the lower side of middle. It's not Grey Knights or Necron certainly. And they didn't get the 6E buff that...

Yea, I don't hate it, I just think it's downright silly looking. I know it's from old school stuff but if I didn't know that, I would think in the current look of 40K it looks like the equivalent of...

This is true. The base to base makes the str3 auto-hit less appealing. Making it simple, taking the exarch out of the equation in a 10 man squad attacking a MEQ squad, you'd need to get 8 models in...

Cool. One minor wrinkle with the mandiblaster is it only does the str3 hit against models in base contact. I rarely get all 10 models in base to base, it's usually 5 or 6.

Still, feels like...

I think the Exarch loses his pistol when he takes the claw? How does that affect his attacks in CC? With your rolls it wouldn't have mattered just not sure.

Yup you're right. Misread the weapon list. It's definitely a buff.

A squad of Scorpions can basically take out an entire marine squad before the marines even fight back (not counting overwatch...

DOH! You're right. Ah well.

Actually, I just did some math and 9 Scorpions with Chainsabres plus an Exarch with the Claw attacking MEQ will get about 6.77 kills. If Mandiblasters gave an extra attack, they'd get 7.75 kills....

Scorps aren't really anti-meq but I'll concede the mandiblasters are fine. Updated previous post.

Nicely done. Did you magnetize the weapons/arms?

It seems like there is somewhat of a trend (not 100% mind you) of some early opinions. All of this is conjecture of course until the army is played a bunch.

Likely Good/Great
-BS4 on tanks,...

Well it does allow you to take the sword/shield option and then take two shoulder guns. That's expensive though (makes him 280-290) but it's a build that works with the shoulder weapons. You could...

I'm actually not sold on the Wraithguard as troops thing, having to use an HQ spot on what looks to be a fairly weak (albeit cheap) HQ choice. If you're going to take an HQ for the purpose of making...

That is a good point. You seem a little angry though and ignored my other points. Relax man.

Anyway, one thing I was thinking was perhaps taking a CC wraithknight with dual starcannons. Could be a...

Yea and it didn't work in CC. In a lot of ways that shield was pretty well balanced. A lot of non-Eldar players hated it but I think more than anything it gave some Eldar players a sense of...

Same here. I stripped the paint off my Eldar last year and I've been repainting my entire army ever since. The first unit I painted after my guardians were my Banshees. I want to defend them, I want...

The problem is that role is way to specialized even for Eldar to make them worth taking over other CC units. Lots of units can fill in for that role. Heck, storm guardians could be used to finish off...

It's all good man. We're all here because we're passionate about the hobby.

That's not true. Perhaps you haven't (and I apologize for using your quote, I should have written the post on it's own) there has been a lot of snark and uncessary comments towards people who have...

This is what I am talking about. Factual statements? I mean, I even put "potential" in bold and added the word likely. Not sure what else I should do, would it help if I added "IMO" before everything...

Fair enough, I shouldn't have used yor specific quote to illustrate my point. I agree giving the codex a grade at this juncture is way too early.

That said, I still see a lot of critism and...