Yes, yes it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
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Yes, yes it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
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'My account was hacked' trans. 'My password was my wedding anniversary the date of which I mentioned on my Facebook page recently'. Or he's lying, whatevs.:p
you mean **** if I'd put UKIP it would've gone viral :D
That too.
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Also:
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Seems legit.
Mordor... :D
I like how the Falklands look like a little dragon! I shall call him Fynn
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The more I study it the more I see, like Gay Weather
AWW ****!
guys we really don like abbott, labour was just incapable of forming an actual party (if we are remotely lucky our senate will block his stupid legislation and send us all back to the polls)
Isn't voting compulsory down under (or up over)?
Wouldn't up over be the long way round?
it is but we have what is currently basically a two party system.
then when you account for preferences form the minor parties (your vote is never wasted it gets shifted around through parties) you can have a government that only wins 40% of the popular vote but still form governement as they have the most seats.
Its ok though because they dont control the upper house (the balance of power there is held by the minor parties and independents currently) so the libs cant just cram through anything they want, (as they are trying to do)
We had what was a two part system essentially. Then the Liberals became a 3rd party, but they are now a 4th behind Ukip.
at the moment our major minor parties are the greens and palmer united (yes the mining magnate) the scary thing is that palmer is playing for the PM office, hes fighting the unpopular liberal policies (seriously they are nuts) and aims to steal their support base next election. If abbotts not careful (hes not) then palmer stands a real chance of stealing his party out form under him after a fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfshade
but change is good for polotics and stops them getting entrenched in the old *******s clubs
By popular vote, under some sort of PR.
How that'd transfer to seats in a national first past the post election, they'd probably be lucky to get one.
Surely part of having the right to vote is exercising the choice not to vote?
probably, but in Australia you ave the responsibility to vote, not the rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
Interesting, is it illegal to spoil your ballot?
dont know, its certainly not enforceable or enforced if it is, donkey votes do happen but despite all our claims to political apathy most Australians are happy to vote AGAINST what they think is wrong for the country. The common idea of Australian governments is that they lose elections they dont win them, and it holds true really.
Righty dokey.
UKIP made gains, as did Labour. Tories and Lib Dems took something of a kicking.
But, importantly, it seems Labour has made gains in the right marginal seats.
Reckon we're looking at a Labour lead Government next year.
oh gods I hope not.
Last thing I need is to be paying more tax for the can't be arsed to live in houses I can't afford.
On a side note Thailands army took over the Government!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
Nah. Labour are savvy enough not to go undoing benefit changes.
Tories are facing a double whammy this time around. There's the usual disillusionment of the electorate. If I'm right in thinking, it's pretty damned rare an incumbent Government increases it's majority at the next election. And then you have UKIP leeching away all the swivel eyed racist bigot lunatics who previously voted Tory (and hats off the Tories for not just mindlessly pursuing them). So swing voters are less likely to vote Tory, and UKIP have undermined their more regular voters*.
I don't think it's necessarily a good thing for the country, as although I'm a dyed in the wool Labour voter, with the issues the Tories are facing Labour don't have to try all that hard. That's never, ever a good thing. After all, Tories didn't have to work all that hard in 2010, and look what happened.
*Not saying all regular Tory voters are Swivel Eyed Racist Bigot Lunatics. But, most Swivel Eyed Racist Bigot Lunatics were previously Tory voters.
IDK Mystery, Labour have took a kicking in the North, and that's where they rely on their support. Yeah they're up but on just by about half of where they expected to be, and they're still dismissing it, despite people coming on air and telling them its down to their own behaviour (corruption and lies commonly cited).
Well, Labour won my council, not surprise given it is home to Benefits Street, and also, Friends with Benefits Street a porn parody of Benefits Street...
So 4 more years of garden tax and broken fences being unrepaired.
Also, if Scotland goes independent, then Labour will have a very very hard job at winning a UK election.
garden tax?
I will be very, very surprised if the Yes vote happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfshade
Apparently not. Every single Labour Government, if you remove all the Scottish seats, would still have been in power.
One of the myths peddled by the No campaign.
As for that? I can't say I'm fussed either way. I live in England, work in London, and ultimately am only nominally Scottish. It will always be my home, but having lived in England for more than 2/3rds of my life.....
Yeah, a phrase coined by a local red top newspaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
Birmingham CC are now charging £35 per annum to collect garden waste, a service that it did previously do for free. The result: grass clippings in black bags left on the side of the road as despite what people may think, dustmen are not that stupid.
The removal of the free bulk items collection also coincided with an increase in fly tipping (allegedly)
The tax is non-transferreable, so say if you move house you have to fork out (pun intended) anout £35 to have it collected.
It really looks more like a conservative policy, pay for a service if you use it, if you don't then you can dispose of it privately. Only what do the people without modes of transport do? You can't exactly book a taxi to take your garden waste to the tip.
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FTFY :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eldargal
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Not what the neutral Beeb were claiming tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
Nope, not upset, if Scotland wants it whatever, it's a democracy. I bit sad but not upset. I do think it will be a disaster for them though so I won't say I'm not concerned.
If you look into the numbers, still a Labour Government.
And to be honest, after decades of being ruled by distant and London focussed Westminster, I'm not at all sure Scots giving a hoots about who runs it if they nick off.
Didyouseemypunthere?
£35? They wanted £70 to do the same here when it was scrapped.
Now it just goes in the general waste instead as one of the neighbours never fills his wheelie bin...
That may be true Mystery, but with the size of some rebellions some policies (tuition fees I think) wouldn't have made it through without the Scottish MPs
Again, when what Westminster may or may not do has no impact on you whatsoever, who gives a flying fornication?
Will it happen? Honestly it's kind of 50/50. If it wasn't a presently pretty vicious Tory party ruling Westminster, I'd expect a 'No' vote. But given how deeply unpleasant the current batch are, it's a reminder of just how awful Westminster rule can be if you don't live in London and the Home Counties.
And let's not forget Michael Gove. Nasty little fish faced pillock that he is.
I am not sure what I am more disapointed with, the fact that they are doing it, the fact it doesn't transfer with you when you move or the fact that I found out from reading a yellow notice on a neighbours green bin bag rather than the council writting to me...
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If it is a democracy, why don't we get a say in whether or not we wish to keep them?Quote:
Originally Posted by eldargal
Because if you did that, London and the Home Counties would soon divorce everywhere else, and leave anyone not them up poop creek sans paddle?
Because based on how much people seem to be sick of them moaning they'd be sent on their way.
Because kicking someone out or forcing them to stay is different to people choosing to leave or stay.
So what we are saying is that people should have self determination, just like in Crimea...
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Well yes, but without the use of militias, foreign interference and terror tactics to pressure people into voting a certain way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfshade
Precisely.
Self Determination is important. Or perhaps you feel nobody should have a say on staying in or leaving Europe? Because that's self determination.