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Originally Posted by Deadlift
It was brilliant. Brutal and brilliant.
I'm liking the viewer stockholm syndrome they've managed to build up. The 'good guys' are doing truly horrific things to survive, including doing over other survivors - yet we still consider them the 'good guys'. Proper triumph of story telling that,.
Don't be a cheapskate and get sky, it's much cheaper than our hobby ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
I don't watch enough TV to justify it :D
Especially with the HH character series to collect...
Which sky channel is it on?
I have virgin, because I am a cheapskate who has just been upgraded to 100Mb broad band for free! Zooom!
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Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
How random
good to see the fox is not using internet explorer
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No cable tv of any type for me... I just watch it on my pc at the AMC website the morning after it airs on cable... and it was a great season opener! So glad the show does the overall story justice. Also very happy that the show is different enough to still be interesting for those who follow the comic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadlift
Carol has evolved into one of my fan favorites! and the post credits scene was brilliant.
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And Marvel's master plan for cinematic domination continues.... Come on DC, you can still do it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
If by 'do it' you mean churn out an increasingly poor canon of films, then yes, I'm sure they can! :p
Seriously, I'm thinking DC should just pack up and go home. They've blinked launching a film against Marvel. Not showing a great deal of faith in their product!
DC has always had an uphill battle vs Marvel (in print and in the movies)... it really sucks cause DC has "the" iconic figures. I've crossing my fingers for MOS2 aka 'the Justice League preview movie' but I don't have a lot of confidence in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
go on all of you, shoo go on have your own dedicated walking dead thread, go on, off wi you, shoo, shoo
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Originally Posted by 40kGamer
Sadly, Iconic doesn't always translate well.
Take Superman - too hard. No real weaknesses as such, and the best at everything. Makes for a dull character.
The Flash - just how many problems can be solved by running quickly?
Batman is the exception - lots you can do with that. Sadly, Iron Man just does it better for me, and seemingly for cinema.
So true... I remember when I was introduced to comics, Marvel was put forward as easier to relate to the characters while DC was cosmic and larger than life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
Superman is a definitely a chore and I'm quite nervous about how they will portray Wonder Woman. Green Lantern could have been a good movie but suffered from poor villains (among other things). Flash is a hard sell in a solo setting but makes a good supporting character, Quicksilver is getting a lot of use.
Batman definitely props up their universe atm, hopefully the post Nolan interpretation works out.
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your assement is so true of DC's characters, far to bland apart from Batman and his circle of close alliesQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
it's where Marval have the superior edge over DC, marvel characters can cross over will-ie nilly and their actions have consquences in later issues, DC's characters have often been in a closed circut format with only really Super-bore and Batman ever making apperances....
Unless of course it's a team book, but then I find the dynamic in DC's is often forced, unlike Marvel's which feels more natural, I.E several marvel characters in the Avengers books have an animosity against others in the team, but will still work together, just look at Logan, he's always at odds with everybody :p
I really think it's because Marvel made more of an effort from the very start of their founding to make these characters share the same world, while DC didn't properly until the 70's by then Marvel had about 20 years experiance on them.
Supermans biggest problem is trying to be in two places at once.
I just can't see DC ever pulling off something like Civil War, simply because Supes takes a side, and that side inevitably wins, because Supes is on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
Marvel? Tony Stark and Cap are a good match. It was incredibly well written, and the choices each character made felt right for that character, and I certainly found myself equally sympathising and despising both sides of the coin.
And my biggest issue? Why is Superman good? What makes him immune to 'Power corrupts'. Dude is functionally unstoppable. How come he's not 'this is for your own good'?
Haven't they explored him doing just that in a few alternate universes? I always got the impression that he feels a bit too out of touch with humans and slightly uncertain how to manage them in a way that would turn out to be 'good', so he'd rather someone else tell him what he's supposed to be doing.
Nah, bats has got plenty methods up his sleeve for taking down superman. Dark Knight showed how he'd basically spent all his spare time planning how to kill superman in the eventual knowledge it would come to that. Mostly involving hitting him with kryptonite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
As for why supes is always good, you should read red son. Not only is it by far and away the best superman story, it also explains this. Basically, he is good because of his upbringing. In red son he lands in soviet Russia instead of Kansas and is raised a brainwashed super communist bent on world domination whilst lex is the good guy desperately trying to preserve democracy.
Upbringing only goes so far, as good is entirely nominal.
Good to me is inclusive to freedom of choice, and freedom from religion in government. To others, quite the opposite.
But Superman is just relentlessly 'good'. Never any temptation to act as a benevolent dictator. But at the same count, he's also a total knob. In Superman, we have an earthly supreme being. It's well within his power to ensure poverty and hunger are a thing of the past. But he doesn't. Dictator getting uppity? What they going to do when Superman comes knocking? He doesn't require violence, because nobody can actually hurt him, let alone stop him. But he doesn't interfere, because apparently that's bad.
And as far as I'm aware, none of those interesting plotlines have been explored. He's the non-mutual bit of MAD. If Superman was to make a stand, and decide 'what I says goes. Or else' - it would be, simply because nobody can overrule or overpower him.
How can any being resist that sort of temptation? And that's more or less what Civil War covers. It's a split. Cap is still largely stuck in the past, and doesn't understand this new world fully. Iron Man is far more pragmatic. He knows registration is inevitable - it's the embodiment of Uncle Ben's wisdom that with great power, comes great responsibility. Tony Stark knows that. It's either meet in the middle and play nice, or risk becoming the very thing you stand against. And it's a glorious story!
Again, read red son, it deals with exactly those points about Superman. I agree with your points, but I think it does come down to upbringing. He never plays the benevolent dictator because it simply never enters his head to do so. His parents taught him to help people in need and to be an example of hope for them to follow, without actually doing things for them (or making them do so). He shows them the path, but never forces them to walk down it. In a wider context, he is the American ideal of negative Liberty made flesh. An all powerful government that does just enough to save is form ourselves but otherwise never interferes in our lives. I'm not saying I think it's a good characterisation, but it is consistent With his character and backstory.
There also an element of him being a follower rather than a leader. He's quite happy to let others take the lead in his life, whether it's his parents, Lois or Bats. Even with baddies, he tends to be reactive rather than proactive in stopping them (again, negative Liberty). It's like he has all this power and never quite knows what to do with it, so let's others make the decisions for him.
Civil war does sound good, I've never really read any marvel, but I may start with this.
in Injustice: Gods among us Superman kills The Joker in a fit of rage. Having killed once, he realises it isn't such a bad thing after all and he is sick of arresting the same villains over and over again. He ends up killing/lobotomising all the major criminals and pretty much stops crime altogether. Then other nations want a piece of that and he ends up ruling the world, clamping down on all crime, and all heroes who disagree with his rule because it gets in the way of his nice ordered society. The Justice League cartoon has a similar event with an alternate earth and the death of The Flash triggering homicidal Superman.
I do tend to agree he can be a very boring character though, you know other super heroes will always win, but the fun lies in how? With Superman though the question is how can he not win? takes out all the tension.
MCU Civil War plotline is not happening, a few weeks ago the producer of Captain America 2-3 said it wouldn't happen and the claims that it is provide no sources.
Sez them :p
I reckon it will, eventually. It's too cool not to do!
Nope, too many key players involved Disney doesn't have the rights to.
True enough.
Though there are rumours that Sony are freaking out over Spidey, and trying to chat their way into getting him into Avengers somehow.
I kind of doubt Disney would agree though, instead just say 'here's scads of cash. Just gimme Spidey k?'
Disney might agree to dual use Spidey in some circumstances, like Avengers 3 or something. But there's no way you would get Disney able to use Spideerman and the X-Men to do a Civil War plotline.
X-Men didn't play a massive role in the main Civil War plot though, not as a group.
It was predominantly Cap, Iron Man and Spidey. At least from memory. Need to re-reads it!
And done in the style of Front Line - that would be pure cinematic heaven!
A few of them were important. Also there were heaps and heaps of superheroes so it made sense to have the registration line, in the MCU there are a lot less and most connected with the Avengers who just recently saved the world so it just doesn't seem to make sense. Also sitll putting more faith in the word of one of the film producers over an unsourced article in a magazine with a poor track record in that department apparently.
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Originally Posted by Mr Mystery
Not a fan?
He sure is one open minded polyamorous mecaphile.Quote:
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Is anyone? Motormouthed Petrol head bigot - what's there to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosplodge
Cause he's quite funny?
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