Mr Mystery is confused...

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Originally Posted by Denzark

I notice that no one decided to pick up on the point that ERW writes off Breast/penis enlargement as cosmetic and pointless. Again, I reiterate that to someone who has body issues that lead them to that point, their self disgust and loathing is equal to that so eloquently described by Gotty - their problem is as pressing to them as that of transgender. A girl who has been slagged off for being 'flat' all her life is likely to be in as much mental pain as someone agonising that they happened to be sprogged the wrong sex.

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Without wanting to downplay what years of teasing about ones appearance can do to ones mental state, I don't think you can equate the two. The attempted suicide rate amongst A-cup girls is not [URL="http://www.livescience.com/11208-high-suicide-risk-prejudice-plague-transgender-people.html"]25 times the rate[/URL] of the general populace of the US, to cite one example. The actual rate of suicide is likely higher as a lot of people apparently commit suicide before 'coming out'.

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Originally Posted by Tzeentch's Dark Agent

I already spoke to her about it.

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Originally Posted by eldargal

Without wanting to downplay what years of teasing about ones appearance can do to ones mental state, I don't think you can equate the two. The attempted suicide rate amongst A-cup girls is not [URL="http://www.livescience.com/11208-high-suicide-risk-prejudice-plague-transgender-people.html"]25 times the rate[/URL] of the general populace of the US, to cite one example. The actual rate of suicide is likely higher as a lot of people apparently commit suicide before 'coming out'.

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Is that a fair statement though? The US is probably the most conservative/religious western nation, and that could easily be equally at fault rather than the disoreder/illness whichever the correct term is.
Trying to come out, or not being "normal" outside of the west coast and some of the east I would imagine is next to impossible.

Doesn't really matter, the issue is the mental stress. Girls with small breasts don't get put under that same kind of pressure even if they do get teased. It's not much lower here, 33-34%.

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Originally Posted by eldargal

Doesn't really matter, the issue is the mental stress. Girls with small breasts don't get put under that same kind of pressure even if they do get teased. It's not much lower here, 33-34%.

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If we have comparative levels fair enough, I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by eldargal

Doesn't really matter, the issue is the mental stress. Girls with small breasts don't get put under that same kind of pressure even if they do get teased. It's not much lower here, 33-34%.

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Everyone has different levels of tolerance of stress and reacts differently to different stressors. You cannot possibly empathise with 100% of girls who have breast modifications and 100% of tansgender persons who have some form of gender re-assignment, and then guaurantee you know for a fact that one is a harsher affliction which affects them worse.

SO MUCH FOR KEEPING TO THE TOPIC.

Talos give me strength...

It is however, an interesting an adult debate - mayhap not as amusing as a derailment by the horsemen perchance, but no less valid for a' that.

I don't know, sometimes we go down the sensible debate route too...

Why don't you make a thread titled "Anxiety and Depression debate"?

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an interesting an adult debate

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Also, extremely condescending phrase there.