It doesn't say Necrons, but given that we know the announcement is due for 29/10/11 it is clearly them. It can be found [URL="http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500093a"]here[/URL], bottom of the page.
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It doesn't say Necrons, but given that we know the announcement is due for 29/10/11 it is clearly them. It can be found [URL="http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500093a"]here[/URL], bottom of the page.
Definitely looks like a teaser of the re-fluffing.
Well they ahd to announce what we all knew anyway eventually
Those DE miniatures are bloody gorgeous, if you'll excuse the pun. I've never really felt any 'pull' towards any Eldar before now...
Sorry, back on topic...
Order. Unity. Obedience sounds more Tau than Necron to me.
I thought it sounded very Tau-y....but thats the new fluff for you...
Also the DE in the post? Beautifully painted but i'm not a fan. Its just black on black. And bloody. The helmets on the Warriors are gorgeous though, as is the OSL
Me like.:)
Here's the 'flash' screenshotted:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ronTeaser1.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ronTeaser2.jpg
So yeah, Necrons
Completely sick of black DE myself I have to say. Yes it looks nice especially when paired with red or another strong colour, but everyone is doing it.:rolleyes:
Every time I see the word unity I think of a girl by that name at my school, real b*tch.
I didn't notice the flash, yay for being observant. Could be the Biel-Tan symbol*. I would laugh so if GW released a Codex: Biel Tan and the Necron thing was an elaboate hoax.:rolleyes:
*I know it isn't.
Ugh.
We've already seen photos of all the models.
And we've seen the rules, and know them at this point to be pretty accurate, most likely barring only a few details here and there...the only thing we don't know much about is wargear and upgrade options.
This teaser, coming at this point in time, is so boring and pointless...
I wish GW would pull their head out of their ***, understand the internet exists, and build hype properly.
You don't 'leak' everything and -then- make a crappy 20-second teaser. *facepalm*
Well I just got all the information on the new Necrons from Games Workshop (such as pricing and units available), and it's pretty sweet.
I posted a bunch of what I could say on my blog
[URL="http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/news-new-necrons-confirmed-gw-teaser.html"]http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/news-new-necrons-confirmed-gw-teaser.html[/URL]
Actually I thought those three words were very necroney, tau are all for the greater good, whatever that may entail. Control, order, and blind obedience was more of a necron thing, even in the old fluff
Very nice teaser vid...........TWO MONTHS TOO LATE!!!
Yeah, what she said. Unity and Peace threw the destruction of anything else is more Tau.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerald Rose Widow
Maybe in the new codex we will get some story about how the necrons and tau team up.
You can't simply assume that because you or I spend time on BoLS or similar sites then everyone who plays 40k does. I was back into the game for many, many months before I ventured on here and only three of the twelve regulars in my gaming group read BoLS/Warseer et al at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawauso
As for whether this 'new' strategy of GW's works or not, only time will tell. I personally don't care one way or the other and it hasn't impacted my spending at all.
Exactly, If I understand the tau codex correctly, the tau empire prefer to absorb other cultures though commerce and negotiation. Anyone who joins the Tau empire appears to have something to gain for themselves and in turn contribute to the "greater good" only when necessary are the fire caste called in to start shooting. As a long term Tau player and having read the FW book, if I had to be in a 40k army then the Tau Empire would be where I would want to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerald Rose Widow
DUDE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesher
You are totally using unsound comer ial tactics to steal potential sales from you competitors. Don't be that guy.
Of course not. I'm not assuming that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hive Mind
But why have your first 'official' teaser come well after the internet rumour-mongering part of the community is WELL AWARE of what the army looks like and, by and large, what its rules will be like?
Why not have the teaser come earlier, and have the stuff we've already seen coming now?
It just makes more sense.
All this does is make GW appear to have an even greater disconnect with a large part of their player base/reality/the internet.
As far as the teaser goes, I liked it. Ok we have seen the models and the rumours about the rules may well be true, but still GW are going to release Necrons their way. Maybe they have something hidden up their sleaves. Either way I can wait a bit longer and am really excited.
Why not? They think it helps their sales, that if people don't know what is coming more than a week or two ahead they will be more likely to make purchases rather than save their money. Imagine if you knew for a fact that after Necrons there would be Tau then Eldar. You have an interest in Necrons or Tau but you are primarily an Eldar player. Would you spend as much on Necrons or Tau than you would if you had no idea about Eldar? Now, imagine three weeks ago you were thinking of buying some Ogres or Dark Eldar or something, and you heard Necrons were coming. Would you still buy those kits? GW believes it is better you buy those not knowing what is around the corner and then you will hopefully buy more when they announce something new. Whether or not it works as they hope is an open question, but it does make sense.
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Originally Posted by Kawauso
cuts both ways though.
Im interestead in VC's but without know whats going to be valid in a few months time if anything then I'm not going to touch the army with a 10 foot pole.
Like I said, whether or not it works is an open question. But there is a reason for it and it does make sense, it isn't some kind of ineffable GW stupidity like some people seem to think.:)
But see, three weeks ago, it was all but certain Necrons were coming anyway...so it's kind of a moot point.Quote:
Originally Posted by eldargal
The teaser has come long after we've had it all but confirmed that Necrons are next. I mean, it's pretty clear the images we've seen are from the next issue of WD.
Certain for a small portion of fans who read Warseer, BoLS and a few other sites, yes.
Why bother treating the rumour information for different 'parts' of the fanbase differently, though?
Like...in video games, for example - sure, most players don't keep up on the rumours. But the studios don't try and treat the player base at large as somehow separate from those who follow rumour mills. If you want to stay informed, it's easy, and you know as much as everyone else who does.
If you don't, you don't.
Why the distinction?
I imagine there are still some people that don't frequent sites like BoLS or Beasts of War, and only look at GW.com or their local store for info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawauso
I work for an RPG developer and we know that the number of people signed up on message boards represents only a fraction of people actually playing the game, based simply on the sales of the books. Even if the people on the message boards had purchased 3 copies of the core rulebook for the game, they still represent a small fraction of the total players. I imagine the same holds true here. The "ardent fans" that frequently post on message boards and stuff frequently make the mistake of thinking that they are the totality of the fan base.
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Been posted yet?
Credit to BramGaunt at Warseer
[url]http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5867250&postcount=953[/url]
Because video games and GW is a flawed analogy. Video games are a vast multi-billion pound industry with huge markets and sales (the ad campaign for Modern Warfare 2 was more than spent on advertising any Hollywood movie). There are a huge number of internet sites catering to game reviews, as well as a number of mainstream magazines and gaming is a sturated market where the key to your game's success is as much about when it is released as anything. For example, it is suicide to release a FPS within a couple of months of a CoD release, you avbe to get it out before as Space Marine did. As such, specific and well publicised release dates are key and often announced months in advance so gamers can plan their purchases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawauso
None of this applies to GW. Depsite being multi-national, they are catering to a niche market and the vast majority of their customers get info from either WD or the website. The only other source of info is the forum rumour mill of places like this.
My point is, in gaming the player base at large does follow rumours because they are available eveywhere and much of it isn't rumour, it's actual press releases by the companies. The reason GW rumour mills exist is because they are much more secretive with their info and the customer saturation of these rumours is much lower - you have to actively search them out, whereas with games they are everywhere.
I'm aware that a direct comparison from one industry to the other is imperfect, but it was just an example.
Though you're incorrect in assuming the majority of gamers are 'plugged-in' like that. The vast majority of the gaming population does not check websites like Kotaku or GameTrailers. The vast majority of gamers play quite casually...and will only find out about a new game coming out through word of mouth/tv commercials, etc. during its launch.
It would be more fair to compare GW to something like, say, a CCG game - like Magic the Gathering. Where they don't do any of this pants-on-head backwards stuff. They handle rumours and leaks like you'd expect any other company to handle them...which is to say well.
Yeah, I'm biased in that I hate how GW is handling its rumour mill lately. But I'll put that to bed, for now.
The image of the Necron army looks sweet.
Bear in mind GW have tried many different policies when it come to news and upcoming release information, some of which they felt didn't work for them. You can't expect a company to do something against what it believes are its best interests just because you would prefer it. They have no obligation to tell us what they are releasing in advance and if they believe from past experience it hurts them to release that information early can you blame them for doing it this way?
If MTG releases previews of what it is working on three months in advance, are there small card game companies that will produce cards compatible with the MTG set to siphon sales away? Because that happens to GW and is one reason why Jes Goodwin doesn't let people photograph his concept art at Games Days. It is also one of the reasons cites for them not announcing things early.
I do like that Necron colour scheme, the lapis lazuli colour works well with the metallics. If lapis lazuli is the word I'm looking for.
Yes that paint scheme is verry nice i certainly hope there is a how to guide in WD.
can anyone take a stab at what colours they used to get the lapis lazuli*
*unfortunately i am profoundly colourblind so i cannot visually match up colours/shades at all
Here is a closer look at one of the variations of the lapis lazuli color that seems similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan Darkstar
http://www.strawsticksandbricks.com/...uli%203205.jpg
It looks like they added a bit of green or perhaps lightly washed it with Thraka Green maybe. Or perhaps, they just stippled it, which also seems likely (look at the panels of the Monolith).
unfortunately that just looks blue to me :( i am really going to have to use the paint guide i cannot even work out the base colour.
If you are wondering about GW's secrecy policy, you might find a part of the answer if you read the legal article posted by BoLS some time ago:
[url]http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/10/rumors-gws-releases-delayed-by-lawsuit.html[/url]
The short of it, if I understood correctly, is that copyrights in a book, Codex, press release or announcment don't translate into copyright protection for miniatures. Thus, the worst case scenario here would be something like>
1. Leak about GW doing.. say.. a Necron Ghost Arc, out a few months before the actual release.
2. Shady company 07 quickly putting a cheap, quickly-put-together "Ghost-Arc-Miniature" to their website for sale.
3. Shady company 07 (successfully) suing GW for copyright infringement because they had a "Ghost-Arc-Miniature" out first (and references towards the Ghost Arc in printed material, as opposed to actually a miniature for sale, don't count).
4. And/or GW forced to pull/not release the actual Ghost Arc to avoid lawsuit.