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wow so if those pictures are to be believed warriors just got worse?
BS3? because the bio engineered combat monster can't shoot for ****! makes perfect sense right?
Won't mind as long as Eternal Warrior Synapse holds true.
They didn't get worse, they were always BS3. Their profile is otherwise unchanged, albeit with the option for flesh hooks and Toxin Sacs being 3 points cheaper per model.
Still not enough to save them, which is why finding out what Synapse/Shadow in the Warp/Instinctive Behaviour actually do this time around could make or break a lot of units!
they we're BS3 in 5th?
god damn, guess that shows how much interest I had for the damned unit
I wouldn't bank on the EW synapse guys, I don't remember hearing anything about it and its the kind of thing you would hear I'd expect, though I hope I'm wrong.
remember guys,
even IF tervigons are say 20 pts more expensive, and now require 30 gaunts for troops, word is that the other big bugs have HUGE points decreases, so I think we can expect a solid swarm, even if warriors and stealers still suck.
I think I'll be dropping the Swarmlord from my lists, either for a pair of crones or a harpy and a walking tyrant.
Yeah I know lol.
I'm not banking on it, but I think it would make sense. I mean, now that we know Genestealers got *worse* if anything, it doesn't paint a good picture for why Rippers went up in cost and Warriors stayed the same cost. However, if they want to make the new Warrior kit sell well, they have to give them something to make people *actually* want to buy them, after all. Whoever thought Genestealers and Warriors should stay the same (if Synapse doesn't confer Eternal Warrior) is out of their minds.
I agree whole-heartedly. Carnifexes and Old One Eye have dropped 40 each, Tyrannofexes have dropped 60, Harpies have dropped 25, the Crone is only 155, Hive Tyrants have dropped at least 20, the Exocrine is only 170, etc. Seems to me like this new book might be pushing 'Nidzilla more than ever. Hopefully that means one of the new monsters or the Carnifex is an Elites choice. Too much monster congestion and lack of variety if they are all in Heavy Support.
OK, next set of collated info:
Quote:
Point Costs
Exocrine is costed as a Keeper of Secrets
Crone is costed as a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
Venomthrope: 10pts cheaper
Trygon Prime: 10pts cheaper
Hive Tyrant: 15pts cheaper
Harpy: 25pt cheaper
Carnifex: 40pts cheaper
Tyrannofex: 60pts cheaper
Tyrant Guard: @same
Tyranid Warriors: @same
Genestealers: @same
Ripper Swarm: 3 pts more
Swarmlord: 5pts more
Tervigon: 15pts more
Tyranid Warriors Kit
3 model kit
Tyranid Prime bits included
Boneswords
Lash Whips
Rending Claws
Scything Talons
Barbed Strangler (1)
Deathspitters
Devourers
Spinefists
Venom Cannon (1)
They're actually much better than most people give them credit for. You have to pod them, which keeps the Prime from joining which keeps them from being really good, but dropping them with their Str 5 guns in the backfield and assaulting stuff after you've tied up your opponent with gaunts and gargoyles actually works very well. My doubles partner and I have been running them for a while now, and they almost always pull through. We've only had one or two games where they didn't cause significant problems for our opponent, and they usually actually survive to grab an objective.
Granted, they might not be as good in a solo nid list, but that's because of the weaknesses of the codex overall rather than an inherent weakness in the unit. With a little more ranged firepower, or the threat of a few extra MCs on the frontlines, then your opponent wouldn't have the ability to divert enough attention to the Warriors without compromising his frontlines.