Lightning Claws

[RebelGrot]

(I apologise if this is a mucho noob question (I am new to 5th from way back when) that has an obvious answer)

"A lightning claw is a power weapon and it also allows the wielder to re-roll any failed roll to wound."

So three questions:

a) This is the rule for a single lightning claw yes?

b) What, therefore, is the advantage of a pair?

c) As they are basically power weapon+re-roll is there any point ever taking a regular power weapon where there's the option of taking one vs a lightning claw at the same points (i.e space marine sergeants/vangaurd etc)

Hope there's enough people not at WAR Games Con to answer!

Thanks in advance!

[mysterex]

(I apologise if this is a mucho noob question (I am new to 5th from way back when) that has an obvious answer)

"A lightning claw is a power weapon and it also allows the wielder to re-roll any failed roll to wound."

So three questions:

a) This is the rule for a single lightning claw yes?

b) What, therefore, is the advantage of a pair?

c) As they are basically power weapon+re-roll is there any point ever taking a regular power weapon where there's the option of taking one vs a lightning claw at the same points (i.e space marine sergeants/vangaurd etc)

Hope there's enough people not at WAR Games Con to answer!

Thanks in advance!

a) Yes

b) If you have a lightning claw then you don't get to count anything other second lightning claw as an extra close combat weapon and so you won't get the extra attack.

c) Regular power weapons are cheaper and can get combined with a pistol to get the extra attack. Against toughness 3 (assuming 4 strength) this works out better. Against toughness 4 it's about the same if you're not charging.

[The Hivemind]

Indeed all true except the price costs. I think power weapons are the same cost as a lightning claw. I know in some cases, if not all that they cost the same points. the advantage of a power weapon is that you can take a pistol, giving you firepower as well as an extra attack in CC, rather than taking the combat advantage and no firepower.

[RebelGrot]

In Codex Blood Angels they're the same as power weapons points-wise (unless you want to go with a pair of course). Thanks for the other info - I'm kicking myself for not remembering the pair = +1 attack. Cheers for the mini-math-hamer too, there's only one dude in my force with just one so I doubt it's going to make any significant difference to overall performance.

Cheers for the quick replies guys :D

[kevkiller1994]

In Codex Blood Angels they're the same as power weapons points-wise (unless you want to go with a pair of course). Thanks for the other info - I'm kicking myself for not remembering the pair = +1 attack. Cheers for the mini-math-hamer too, there's only one dude in my force with just one so I doubt it's going to make any significant difference to overall performance.

Cheers for the quick replies guys :D
In the Space Marine Codex Page 139 [Army lists] Fast attack: Vanguard Veterans
The Sergeant may place his powersword with
Lighting claw................... Free

further down
Any moddel may replace his boltpistol/Chainsword with
A power weapon or lightning claw for 15 pts

soo honestly I'd do 1 lighting claw and a bolt pistol with that 1+ attack and the reroll failed hits to wound plus add a chaplin to that and on assault im rerolling failed to Hits and to wound so

[Tynskel]

rabble rabble rabble...
grumble grumble grumble...

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=21435

[Wolfshade]

In the Space Marine Codex Page 139 [Army lists]
soo honestly I'd do 1 lighting claw and a bolt pistol with that 1+ attack and the reroll failed hits to wound plus add a chaplin to that and on assault im rerolling failed to Hits and to wound so

What I believe Tynskel is suggesting (I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong) that you wo'n't get +1A for having a lightning claw paired with a bolt pistol. BRB pp.47

[Chuck777]

In the Space Marine Codex Page 139 [Army lists] Fast attack: Vanguard Veterans
The Sergeant may place his powersword with
Lighting claw................... Free

further down
Any moddel may replace his boltpistol/Chainsword with
A power weapon or lightning claw for 15 pts

soo honestly I'd do 1 lighting claw and a bolt pistol with that 1+ attack and the reroll failed hits to wound plus add a chaplin to that and on assault im rerolling failed to Hits and to wound so

Lightning Claws and Thunderhammers are too cool for Pistols. The only way to get an additional attack with either is to have another (i.e. 2 lightning claws or 2 thunderhammers).

[Caldera02]

In the Space Marine Codex Page 139 [Army lists] Fast attack: Vanguard Veterans
The Sergeant may place his powersword with
Lighting claw................... Free

further down
Any moddel may replace his boltpistol/Chainsword with
A power weapon or lightning claw for 15 pts

soo honestly I'd do 1 lighting claw and a bolt pistol with that 1+ attack and the reroll failed hits to wound plus add a chaplin to that and on assault im rerolling failed to Hits and to wound so


Why was this thread necro'd? Stop it.

[Tynskel]

hey hey hey. Just because you have something against NECROphiliacs doesn't mean you should take away all the fun from everyone else.

Especially with the release of the NECRONS!

[Wolfshade]

I bet the NECRONphilliacs are pleased the range has been made plastic rather than metal :eek: ouch