The cost of 8th ed

[Strivos]

Hey just to let you know I did some searching and found that as of today 6-15 7:15am CST
These are the costs and conversion rates for the 8th ed book.

Britsh version 45 pounds = $66
Irish version 60 Euros = $73
Canadian version C$90 = $87
American version = $75

http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/GBP/graph30.png

Thats the value of the British Pound vs the US dollar


Factors to consider.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=&section=community&pIndex=3&aId=9300010&start=4

Hope you guys get the best deals you can :)

[eldargal]

You forgot the Australian dollar:
Rulebook is 124AUD or £72 or 106USD.

So really you Americans have little to complain about compared to others. I can understand prices being a little higher outside Great Britain (GW being in a British company) but it really is getting punitive for our antipodean friends.

[eriochrome]

I think currently the best deals for non direct only stuff is to buy in bulk from one of the UK based web discounters. If you buy enough the shipping cost is not a big deal even if they charge one. I generally only buy direct stuff currently so that does not really help.

[faolan]

You forgot the Australian dollar:
Rulebook is 124AUD or £72 or 106USD.

So really you Americans have little to complain about compared to others. I can understand prices being a little higher outside Great Britain (GW being in a British company) but it really is getting punitive for our antipodean friends.

You're 100% correct here, and it's not only hurting customers, but it's hurting both the retailers down here (such as Area52 in Tasmania) and GW-Australia as a whole - they're losing a good number of their customers to the US and UK mail order places, including GW-US and GW-UK.

Yep, it was cheaper to buy Space Hulk from GW-US and pay $20 to them for international shipping than it was to get it down here.

[Grabnutz]

£45 quid? They're having a laugh!

Now don't get me wrong, I work hard for a not too shabby wage, but I have a wife, three kids and a mortgage. There is no way I can afford £45 for a set of rules - and that's all they are, some rules, no matter how prettily they dress them up.

The hints in the press release would indicate that they will be trying to increase unit sizes to sell more figures as well.

Well I won't be buying these, I'll soldier on with 7th edition...

[Aldramelech]

£45 quid? They're having a laugh!

Now don't get me wrong, I work hard for a not too shabby wage, but I have a wife, three kids and a mortgage. There is no way I can afford £45 for a set of rules - and that's all they are, some rules, no matter how prettily they dress them up.

The hints in the press release would indicate that they will be trying to increase unit sizes to sell more figures as well.

Well I won't be buying these, I'll soldier on with 7th edition...

Agreed

[BlackKnight15624]

"but, but, but... It's over 500 pages of color!"

yeah... Beyond the rules, anyone who is already familiar with Warhammer (I'm guessing) won't get much out of the new rulebook- as the modeling section will be (again I'm guessing) primarily novice-level hobby tips. And those novices? Will they spend their $75 on this?

Granted, compared to video games these days, it's not that bad. With many Xbox360 and PS3 titles going for ~$60, the WFB Rulebook does present a better value in terms of enjoyment you get out of it, the time you spend playing it, and in a pinch, energy costs. Just something to think about. I might be comparing apples to oranges here, though. Thoughts?

[Grabnutz]

Yeah, but who needs a 500 page tome at the table? It would need it's own trolley just to cart it about.

How many pages are actually needed? 50? So you're paying £1 or $2 per useful page... no thanks.

Besides computer games cost hundreds of thousands of pounds/dollars to develop, if not more.

Most of this new tome will be recycled from the huge library of WFB Fluff. Add a few new pictures and photos, and change just enough of the rules to make every tournament player have to have it.

[Russ]

I'm having a hard time deciding what to do. I was thinking of getting a collectors edition, but damn, 125 bucks....I can afford it, but what really am I going to do with it? I'll read it once and it'll end up sitting on my shelf looking pretty. I don't need modeling tips, and I've read most of the lore. I may just wait for the little book to come out.

[eldargal]

So wait for the starter set book to start appearing on eBay. Personally I think the new book is worth every penny, it is absolutely gorgeous. A bargain, in fact, compared to what I have to pay for other books which are not in full colour. Still annoyed about paying three hundred pounds for some art history textbooks in partial colour...

[TheBitzBarn]

The Book is Incredible I have the thing and it is sweet as Hell color pics and great design

[CitizenZero]

I am a bit torn. I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition, but after getting some good hands on time with the hardcover, I know I will want to read through it more than once.

So I am thinking of pre-ordering a regular book as well :/

In my opinion, once you see the stuff that is included in the hardcover that isn't in the softcover...the value skyrockets. The rules make up only about 1/3 of the full book, and wind up being the least interesting part to me...I want all 3 versions!

[eldargal]

I ordered a Collectors and Gamers edition for that very reason. I will almost certainly get the starter set if it includes High Elves.:rolleyes:


I am a bit torn. I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition, but after getting some good hands on time with the hardcover, I know I will want to read through it more than once.

So I am thinking of pre-ordering a regular book as well :/

In my opinion, once you see the stuff that is included in the hardcover that isn't in the softcover...the value skyrockets. The rules make up only about 1/3 of the full book, and wind up being the least interesting part to me...I want all 3 versions!

[CitizenZero]

I ordered a Collectors and Gamers edition for that very reason. I will almost certainly get the starter set if it includes High Elves.:rolleyes:You spared no expense! :P
I don't think I am going to do the Gamers Ed on this...the shoulder bag isn't as useful to me as the 40k Ammo Box was...and I don't fancy myself ever using those dice. I will pick up the Templates and Counters though...they look awesome...

I want to get the Battle Magic cards too!

[DarkAngelHopeful]

I ordered a Collectors and Gamers edition for that very reason. I will almost certainly get the starter set if it includes High Elves.:rolleyes:

I'm not sure if everyone is aware that there is a contest to win a 3,000 point army from GW. If this is old news to you, then great, if not here is the link.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=10500131a

You can also receive one of 200 signed posters if you have spent 150 pounds as of 15 June 2010.

[Strivos]

I myself an avid "get it in the battle box" rulebook kind of guy since 4th ed 40k, am looking forward to getting this standard version of the Fantasy rulebook.

While its true the heavy duty tomes are intimidating I find myself still going back to my older large books vs my smaller ones which basically become useless after the edition changes.

[Torcano]

I myself an avid "get it in the battle box" rulebook kind of guy since 4th ed 40k, am looking forward to getting this standard version of the Fantasy rulebook.

While its true the heavy duty tomes are intimidating I find myself still going back to my older large books vs my smaller ones which basically become useless after the edition changes.

Great point. For anyone interested in lore, models, etc the BRB are infinitely more useful and "worth it".

Maybe its only use people who will sit and read them just for fun, but I know I get more usage out of the BRBs than any other GW purchase I make.

[eldargal]

Quite. The BRB isn't just the rulebook, it is the foundation for the entire hobby, hence the lore, painting and modelling section.


Great point. For anyone interested in lore, models, etc the BRB are infinitely more useful and "worth it".

Maybe its only use people who will sit and read them just for fun, but I know I get more usage out of the BRBs than any other GW purchase I make.

[Skeletay]

I took a look at the book at the store yesterday, and I think it's worth every penny! I want one and I don't even play fantasy...yet. I'm definitely the type of person who doesn't mind paying more for a good product and it's nice to too see an increase in production value to go along with the inevitable price increase. It's only $20 more than the 40k rulebook, and will gladly pay that or more if the next edition of 40k gets the same treatment.

[Russ]

I decided to go ahead and just get a collectors edition. The more I thought about it, the more I kept thinking it's it's more than likely I am going to read the thing over and over. I can play/have rules now, instead of in September, and have a nice non grimy copy of the rules to read at home. Now I need to stop coming to this website and looking at all the reviews and posts about it. I'm excited about this edition and can't wait.

[Lerra]

Granted, compared to video games these days, it's not that bad. With many Xbox360 and PS3 titles going for ~$60, the WFB Rulebook does present a better value in terms of enjoyment you get out of it, the time you spend playing it, and in a pinch, energy costs. Just something to think about. I might be comparing apples to oranges here, though. Thoughts?

You can get an Xbox 360 plus a few games for US$150. To start up WHFB you need roughly $600 now ($400 for models, $30 for a codex, $75 for a rulebook, $90 for paint, primer, greenstuff, tools, etc). That's a huge investment, and I don't think it compares all that favorably to video gaming on price.

[CitizenZero]

You can get an Xbox 360 plus a few games for US$150. To start up WHFB you need roughly $600 now ($400 for models, $30 for a codex, $75 for a rulebook, $90 for paint, primer, greenstuff, tools, etc). That's a huge investment, and I don't think it compares all that favorably to video gaming on price.I think that math is a bit fuzzy, and let me know how long it takes before that person gets tired of playing UNO and Pac-Man.

The initial costs may be SLIGHTLY more than playing xbox, but many of those purchases will last you years.

[Lerra]

If you've never played WHFB though, how do you know that you'll be playing for years? That's the cost just to get in the front door. How do you know you'll even like the game a few months down the road? You see plenty of armies on ebay that were purchased, partially assembled, with three models painted, and the guy is quitting the game because things didn't work out.

[CitizenZero]

If you've never played WHFB though, how do you know that you'll be playing for years? That's the cost just to get in the front door. How do you know you'll even like the game a few months down the road? You see plenty of armies on ebay that were purchased, partially assembled, with three models painted, and the guy is quitting the game because things didn't work out.This is true, but can be said about any hobby. I owned my Nintendo Wii for about a year before I gave it to my little sister because I was bored with it...and I've been burned numerous times by buying $60 video games that sucked.

[DarkAngelHopeful]

If you've never played WHFB though, how do you know that you'll be playing for years? That's the cost just to get in the front door. How do you know you'll even like the game a few months down the road? You see plenty of armies on ebay that were purchased, partially assembled, with three models painted, and the guy is quitting the game because things didn't work out.

The way me and my friends overcame that in high school was that we all pitched in and bought the rules and we each bought our own codices. That way the initial investment wasn't that big.

With 40k, my best friends inherited 2nd edition I believe and we all just used their rules and bought our own codexes.

Also, at a lot of game stores they have a practice table set up for you to try out 40k or fantasy. So you might be able to figure out if you like it after a couple of games. :)

[Torcano]

If you've never played WHFB though, how do you know that you'll be playing for years? That's the cost just to get in the front door. How do you know you'll even like the game a few months down the road? You see plenty of armies on ebay that were purchased, partially assembled, with three models painted, and the guy is quitting the game because things didn't work out.

I wouldn't know, but do you see many BRBs? If not, perhaps that would show you how much more valued it really is?


You can get an Xbox 360 plus a few games for US$150. To start up WHFB you need roughly $600 now ($400 for models, $30 for a codex, $75 for a rulebook, $90 for paint, primer, greenstuff, tools, etc). That's a huge investment, and I don't think it compares all that favorably to video gaming on price.

What? You are talking about Live Arcade games? That wouldn't cover 2 games alone in Canada without the system. I think you are just making things up. The 360 itself is $300. Average game $60-$80. So...no, you are wrong.

Anyway this is silly, what does the price of anything else have to do with this? Completely irrelevant.