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Defenestratus
09-06-2016, 07:10 AM
Seems September is going to be "Red and Gold" month for Gdubs.

Next supplement is "Angel's Blade" and will focus on Blood Angels. New formations (for an army that already has so many that I cannot even remember them all).

Having seen the formations from Traitor's Hate - there might actually be some promise.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-meaDCWx0bUU/V82a8epi7QI/AAAAAAABHAk/J1sLLYwt1VAARDgQlEZv7yDFplwJ0goXwCLcB/s1600/14202590_1679168629070436_6715457673573651080_n.jp g

Asymmetrical Xeno
09-06-2016, 08:18 AM
Pretty boring releases IMO. I think Kharn should of been accompanied by new berserkers and it sounds like this BA one won't have any new models with it at all (they should release updated mephiston and dante figures imo) hopefully it's the calm before the storm.

Wolfshade
09-08-2016, 05:11 PM
Pretty boring releases IMO. I think Kharn should of been accompanied by new berserkers and it sounds like this BA one won't have any new models with it at all (they should release updated mephiston and dante figures imo) hopefully it's the calm before the storm.

Rumours of updated Mephiston and Dante have been floating around for years, since before the WD codex.
Blimey.
ANyway moar BAs is awesome.

Asymmetrical Xeno
09-08-2016, 06:16 PM
Feels a bit of a missed opportunity to me. Aside from Overkill, the 40k releases have been quite small for kits this year, it seems they want to focus more on AoS which I don't really mind to be fair.

Defenestratus
09-09-2016, 06:56 AM
Feels a bit of a missed opportunity to me. Aside from Overkill, the 40k releases have been quite small for kits this year, it seems they want to focus more on AoS which I don't really mind to be fair.

Seems that they're releasing that jump pack chappy with this BA release and thats it.

I don't think I'm going to get the supplement honestly. Not really worth $50 for a couple of formations that will probably be copy and paste formations from the Angels of Death book.

Ravingbantha
09-09-2016, 09:09 AM
We may see some new reboxing with the minis from the BA tactical squads, with jump packs for assault troops, and heavy weapons for devastator units. Simular to what they did with SW Long Fangs and Skyclaws.

Asymmetrical Xeno
09-09-2016, 09:13 AM
Seems that they're releasing that jump pack chappy with this BA release and thats it.

I don't think I'm going to get the supplement honestly. Not really worth $50 for a couple of formations that will probably be copy and paste formations from the Angels of Death book.

he's already out though :
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Chaplain-with-Jump-Pack


EDIT, litterally just got posted on Faeit :
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X7dz2ekeXfg/V9LF5EIjkjI/AAAAAAABHKo/klYdbnl15SQLOeir6HQWSbEmeCq60i0gQCLcB/s1600/newreleases.PNG

yeah, think they are just repacks with that added BA upgrade sprue that got released a while back.

Kirsten
09-09-2016, 10:36 AM
I like the idea of doing a Flesh Tearers army with the death company rules.

Master Avoghai
09-12-2016, 02:58 PM
I've posted a sum up of the changes on B&C

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325509-new-blood-angels-formations-miniatures-wargear/?p=4499505

So Thanks to a contact on a french forum I have acces to most of the book, please moderation team I got rid to any cost and I tried to reformulate the special rules so that it doesn't break the IP rules please let me know if any problem

First the upgrades.

without any surprise,

- Assault squad receive the same entry as vanilla : no JP, buy either the jumpack or the transport or leave them on foot. Evicerator available
- Devastator : same thing, they have acces to cherubin and grav cannon.
- vindi and WW can be fielded as squadron with the same bonus
- same thing for turbo boos bonus for speeders
- access to domain from the new disciplines

Then the news

First a DC chaplain
allow to reroll the roll to wound for him and its uni when charging except in a disorderd charge

Then the Baal :
Fieldable in squadron and may re roll 1 to W when played in squadrons of 3

I have no access to relics except the TH from Kraen wich becomes available to any BA character

Then you have 2 detachment or rather "super formations" "gladius" ... whatever

The first is a standard one the second is more Death company

Gladius like detachment

bonus
- re roll of warlord trait
- l+1I when charging
- zealot if any squad come below 50%
… And... That's all ! No free transport if 2 half company are played...

The formations

Core :

Demi Companie

As a vanilla one except you can swap the command squad for a furioso
Special rules Reroll of the warlord trait and +1I when charging and ... That's all !!!! NO OBJECTIVE SECURED And it's the same bonus as the whole formation... This is THE dark point IMO…

archangels demi companie

1 termi captain
2 furioso
4 units amongst termis assault termi vanguard sternguards
special rules :
Stubborn
Roll for reserve at Turn 1
Re roll scatter and roll only 1d6
Warlord trait re roll

HQ :

Leaders of the Angelic Host :
1 HQ
0-1 comman squad
0-1 Storm Raven
no special rules

Golden Host
Dante or Sanguinor
2-5 sanguinary guards units
Special rules :
No reserve roll you choose the turn they arrive and everybody arrive in DS
They can charge the turn they DS but count as disordered charge

Chapter ancients
3-5 units of
Dreads
Dreads Furioso
Dreads Archi
special rules
1time per battle, you can choose to sacrify the movement phase of any dread to either make a free shoot or a free movement of contact and resolve CC A. You can then proceed normally to shoot or charge

Auxiliaries :

Archangels orbital intervention force
3 termi squads of any sort
Special rules :
MUST be kept in DS reserve
one single reserve roll
The termi may eithershoot twice (not necessarly at the same target) OR charge the turn they DS but this will count as disordered charge

10th company Ambush Force
3-5 units of scouts or scout bikes
Restrictions : bikes must have mines
Special rules :
As long as it doesn't move a unit gain +1 cover (shrouded?)
Precision shot first turn

Death Company Strike Force
1 DC chaplain
3 DC squads
0-3 DC dreads
Special rules
Models within 12" of the chaplain gain +1A

Lucifer Armoured strike force
1 techmarine
3-5 units of preds or Baal
1-3 units of LR of any sort
Special Rules
Overloaded engines free

Storm Raven Squadron
2-4 Storm Raven
Special Rules : One time per battle, during your movement phase, declare you target an enemy unit. All the SR within 72" of the target and with a LoS must shoo all their remaining stormstrike missiles on the target. This doesn't count toward the number of weapons usable and the SR may use their weapons during the shooting phase as normal.

Rapid Assault Force
1-3 units
Assault squads
bike squads
attack bike squads
speeder squadrons
Special Rules : none it's a "blank formation" usable only in the super detachment

Fire Support Force
1-3 units
devastator
WW
Vindi
Special rules : none it's a "blank formation" usable only in the super detachment


And then Death Company Gladius

Bonus :
Re roll traits
+1I when charging expect if disordered charge
After Deploying the unit, it may make a 6"move. This is NOT a scout move


Core

Death Company Strike Force as described

HQ

Death Company Command
1-3 choices amongst Astorath, Lemartes or chapelain CdlM

Aux

Archangels Orbital Intervention force as described

10th company support as described

Lucifer Armoured squadron as described

Storm Raven squadron as described

Rapid Assault Force as descibed


My global impression is positive as GW seems to get rid of the OP formations with lots of free stuf (I suggest vanilla and DA to profit from those bonus as long as they can because I don't see them pass the v8)

The formations are clearly assault orientated but the good thing is that GW didn't stick only on the assault phase and gave nice shooting bonus like the twice shot of the termis or the additionnal shots of the dread.

My only BIG concern is the lack of OS on the semi company. I don't think the gladius bonus are worth this loss and I reaaly expect to see a CAD with OS squads beside angelic host or dread formations

Defenestratus
09-13-2016, 07:02 AM
So no Obsec is sad but overall its not bad. It seems weird that the detachment and core formation have the same benefits. Whatever.

I'm super excited about Dante's formation. Seems to me that with that formation and Dante's deep strike-no-scatter ability (IIRC) you could pop a sanguinary guard suprise on some unsuspecting people. Would be nice to root out those entrenched oblits, devestators, broadsides, reapers, etc...