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Asymmetrical Xeno
06-27-2016, 02:09 AM
sadly not the best quality, but at f**king last.

thanks to Lady Atia : https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/908

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I will probably just buy Alarielle and make my own creepy plant creatures for her myself.

Mr Mystery
06-27-2016, 02:16 AM
Oh wow!

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
06-27-2016, 02:20 AM
Drycha has been to the gym. O.o

Kirsten
06-27-2016, 02:29 AM
they are magnificent, I want all of those

CoffeeGrunt
06-27-2016, 02:39 AM
I thought the stag beetle was going to look frikkin' dumb when I heard about it, but damn it looks cool...

grimmas
06-27-2016, 03:04 AM
Well AoS miniatures are total ****e aren't they 😉

They're making it very difficult to concentrate on one project at a time

Mr Mystery
06-27-2016, 03:28 AM
Looking forward to the next batch of pics :)

Kirsten
06-27-2016, 04:15 AM
all of them are brilliant, GW just keep on knocking it out of the park

eldargal
06-27-2016, 04:41 AM
Those do look nice. Is that a dryad mecha lol?

Kirsten
06-27-2016, 05:45 AM
I wonder if the treekin hunters have an alternative version, I would assume so. the giant bows are lovely though

Kirsten
06-27-2016, 07:33 AM
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Mr Mystery
06-27-2016, 07:37 AM
Just coming here to share those!

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06-27-2016, 07:41 AM
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Asymmetrical Xeno
06-27-2016, 08:28 AM
Alarielle looks just as awesome as the art, a must-buy for me. The rest is good but too humanoid for me, I'll definitely be scratch-building some scary killer plants and giving Alarielle a "dark" makeover.

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 03:43 AM
Frontpage is complaining Alarielle is too detailed....

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 03:58 AM
looks fine to me.

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via https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/914

Kirsten
06-28-2016, 04:16 AM
that pic does a lot for the scale, she really is massive.

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 04:25 AM
that pic does a lot for the scale, she really is massive.

A beautiful model, at last a female hero for AoS!

Kirsten
06-28-2016, 04:27 AM
it is a shame they didn't go for butterfly wings like the old Ariel, but other than that it is great.

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 04:45 AM
I'm not sure Flutterby wings would work. These ones, I really like. Somewhere between a tree, and bird of paradise plumage.

I can't wait to see what pro-painters do with this kit.

Learn2Eel
06-28-2016, 04:50 AM
The models are fabulous. Alarielle is every bit as amazing as I hoped she would be based on the artwork and the fact that she is the first Incarnate released in Age of Sigmar (not counting Nagash as he is still technically an 8th Edition model). The scale is hard to accurately place but it does appear that she'll take up at least as much real estate as Nagash, and the model itself is incredibly detailed with a great pose. I can't understand the "her model is too detailed" complaints, isn't that what people want from models? Seems like a silly thing to chastise the designers for.

I think my favorite model is Drycha, so many little details and such an interesting take on what is presumably still a vengeful tree spirit (also, yay that they brought her back!) The beehives initially had me scratching my head but the high quality pictures eased my concerns there. Great model. The mini-Treemen, the Kurnoth Hunters, are cool for all the same reasons Treemen are; just miniaturized. I like the Revenants well enough but they aren't anything too special, though the Spite Revenants stand out a bit more than the Tree Revenants, I like the execution of the half-tree half-aelf concept. The Branchwych is a nice alternative to the Branchwraith and looks far more comfortable among Dryads, definitely fits in snugly.

Rules-wise this stuff is pretty darned strong aside from maybe the Revenants. Drycha is ridiculous for 280 points if the translated rules are anything to go by; she basically outputs more mortal wounds than Lord Kroak without needing to cast spells to do so, it's just automatic and impossible to defend against. She's not too difficult to kill with 10 Wounds, a 3+ save and no other defenses, but that permanent 9" move of hers means you need to deal with her quick or she'll murder scores of models in moments - damned nasty! Also, she has a 50% chance of getting 12 Attacks in close combat on any given turn when at full health, each of which is 4+ to-hit, 3+ to-wound, -1 Rend and 2 Damage. Yowza. If I'm not mistaken, she out-damages a Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster overall assuming she gets close to numerous units...

The Revenants aren't anything special rules-wise considering the points costs, they just aren't that much better than Dryads to justify being nearly twice as expensive at identical unit sizes. The Spite Revenants are good for debuffing when combined with spawning Wyldwoods and Drycha's unique spell, while the Tree Revenants are incredibly mobile with their free teleportation (methinks they will be over-powered in objective grabbing games); definitely the latter unit seems the best way to go unless you go all in on Battleshock-manipulation.

Kurnoth Hunters are certainly interesting and are purpose built to go with Alarielle due to her healing abilities, five wounds each with a 4+ save plus the ability to choose to not move and only pile in 1" in a charge phase but re-roll all failed saves until the end of that turn (works in both players turns, get them in combat or wait for a charge then activate this, means you can perpetually give them a 4+ re-rollable save while they are locked in combat!) They are good in combat even if you take the Bows (you pick between Bows plus Vicious Claws, Greatswords, and Scythes) as each Hunter has a 50% chance to inflict a mortal wound on an enemy unit at the end of each combat phase. Not too shabby. The bows are actually something to consider because of that 30" range meaning they can easily single out characters and artillery. Very cool unit indeed.

The Branchwych is the close-combat oriented alternative to a Branchwraith and has a damaging unique spell rather than a summoning spell, she's cool. Alarielle though...what a beast. 5 attacks with her Beetle that do 5 damage....yowza, and she moves 16"! The way her Talon works is utterly brutal, make sure to do it after the Beetle attacks and provided you have her Command Ability activated and don't fail with her shooting attack Alarielle - assuming average rolls, rounding up where necessary - will kill Archaon in a single turn without any spells taken into account on either side. She's also purpose-built to serve units with multiple-wound models...like the Kurnoth Hunters. The "free" summoning she gets (it doesn't count as actual summoning) is sure to raise eyebrows too. Definitely on the level of Nagash and Archaon, albeit in different ways - both her and Drycha seem under-priced for their points as I don't honestly believe that Gordrakk should be 80 points more expensive than the Everqueen given their respective rules.

Semi-coherent spiel done....bring on the Sylvaneth pre-orders!

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 05:08 AM
I'm not sure Flutterby wings would work. These ones, I really like. Somewhere between a tree, and bird of paradise plumage.

I can't wait to see what pro-painters do with this kit.

Yeah, I personally like the tree-like wings, they look more vestigal which suits my taste more I suppose. :)

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 05:08 AM
Most of all?

I want the background.

Last time we saw Alarielle, she was a soul seed being planted in a place of great heroes and noble sacrifice....I can't wait to read about her re-birth in full-on warrior mode!

RGilbert26
06-28-2016, 05:38 AM
I look forward to the painting tutorial from GW, I currently have no idea how I'm going to paint those models.

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 05:45 AM
With a brush

*nods sagely*

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 06:00 AM
via https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/916

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She's kinda like a wooden dreadnought with beehive weapons.


....thats pretty awesome

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 06:03 AM
via https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/916

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She's kinda like a wooden dreadnought with beehive weapons.


....thats pretty awesome

http://www.hilariousgifs.com/i/qrLEV.gif

BEEEEEEEEESSSSS!

eldargal
06-28-2016, 06:10 AM
Yep, dryadmecha lol. Not shy she has to have a healthy pair of DDs bobbling about front and center but its a nice figure all the same.

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 06:13 AM
Soul Amphora....what's the betting it contains the essence of that completely hat stand Treeman from The World That Was?

Kirsten
06-28-2016, 06:15 AM
http://www.hilariousgifs.com/i/qrLEV.gif

BEEEEEEEEESSSSS!

that was my thought too

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 06:35 AM
Making more bee's is a good thing, they are dying out! Drycha's just fixing that in her own way and we should not judge!

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 07:40 AM
Seem we're getting not only the Sylvaneth book, but also the next (possibly final!) instalment in the Realmgate Wars - The Allpoints (may be called All Gates)

Trojan66
06-28-2016, 11:25 AM
Blimey...I find myself lovin these figures, bit of a shock! Can anyone work out the price on the bottom of the revenant picture ? Does it say £22 ? Or is that my wishful thinking...

Kirsten
06-28-2016, 11:35 AM
£29 for the five, and £35 for mecha drycha in my opinion

Mr Mystery
06-28-2016, 03:37 PM
£22.50. They're €29 :)

Kirsten
06-28-2016, 03:57 PM
peachy

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-28-2016, 04:53 PM
Thats not too bad a price IMO. How much are the rest of the kits? All I can find are the US prices.

Kirsten
06-29-2016, 04:35 AM
looking forward to these, at least one of everything initially, then see how it goes.

Mr Mystery
06-29-2016, 04:36 AM
I'm sorely tempted by a Drycha. I'm quite taken with the model.

Kirsten
06-29-2016, 04:37 AM
need to get all the stuff I am selling up on ebay, get some extra funds in. just such a pain in the arse.

Mr Mystery
06-29-2016, 04:38 AM
Info on the Sylvaneth book....

IT's the first in a new style. Magic Items and Lore of Magic included! SQUEEE!

Asymmetrical Xeno
06-29-2016, 06:03 AM
more pics via empress atia and co ; https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/922

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grimmas
06-29-2016, 07:16 AM
Info on the Sylvaneth book....

IT's the first in a new style. Magic Items and Lore of Magic included! SQUEEE!

Interesting, I wonder if they'll update the earlier ones. Hopefully free for the digital edition like they did with the Black Legion one.

Jared van Kell
06-29-2016, 03:38 PM
Interesting, I wonder if they'll update the earlier ones. Hopefully free for the digital edition like they did with the Black Legion one.

They have already confirmed that they are releasing PDF updates for all of the existing Battletomes.

JvK :cool:

Trojan66
07-01-2016, 11:47 AM
Points costs, magic items and race specific lores...what a welcome return for our game. This, coupled with realistic unit pricing may well see some of my old sparing partners return to the game. Welcome optimism !

Asymmetrical Xeno
07-01-2016, 06:41 PM
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Home?_requestid=4241786

Pre-orders up!

I reckon it all looks amazing. Beautiful looking army I think.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120204015_AlarielleEverqueen01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120204018_KurnothHunters01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120204017_DrycaHamadreth01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120204016_SpiteRevenant01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120204016_TreeRevenant01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99070204002_SylvanethBranchwych01.jpg

Alarielle is one of the best models iv seen from GW Id say. I also dig the centipede on the Branchwych. The rest is really well done but personally wouldn't buy (but do admire) - wish my sculpting was that good!

Kirsten
07-02-2016, 03:49 AM
Alarielle is more than I expected. this is going to be an expensive week...

Asymmetrical Xeno
07-02-2016, 04:40 AM
Alarielle is more than I expected. this is going to be an expensive week...

Was a bit taken back by that too, She's £60 on dark sphere mate. Still expensive but....

Kirsten
07-02-2016, 05:16 AM
yeah I know, I thought she would be more like £60 to begin with though. she does look like a huge model though, so I don't mind too much.

Cap'nSmurfs
07-02-2016, 06:01 AM
**** me all this stuff's lovely. Dare I abandon the forces of Death...? (No, I'll do both!)

Mr Mystery
07-02-2016, 06:35 AM
Kuornoth Hunters are well hard!

Asymmetrical Xeno
07-02-2016, 07:23 AM
yeah I know, I thought she would be more like £60 to begin with though. she does look like a huge model though, so I don't mind too much.

Yeah you are right She looks bigger than 28mm from some of the photos. She'll definitely get a Goth Queen makeover from me.

I am loving all the asymmetry going on in the designs too. Makes me wonder what other crazy looking armies are to come in the future, very exciting!

Kirsten
07-02-2016, 07:34 AM
just backed a kickstarter for the end of the month so I will probably just stick to Alarielle and box of hunters with the book for now, then add bits later as I go.

Cap'nSmurfs
07-02-2016, 08:20 PM
Alarielle's huge. I mean, both in terms of "she's like 12 feet tall" but also "she doesn't skip leg day, does she?"

Charon
07-03-2016, 02:38 AM
She must have dislocated her leg while working out too....

RGilbert26
07-03-2016, 04:47 PM
Alarielle is currently out of stock on the UK website, for a pre-order model?

Erik Setzer
07-09-2016, 07:20 AM
The Tree-nought/Tree-knight seems a bit... odd. If they want to copy the concept, I think it'd still work better if they didn't copy the entire idea, including an exposed driver.

Otherwise, only real criticism is Alarielle is overdone, a problem they've had with a lot of their large models, where there's "detail" that isn't needed just to claim it has more detail and should be priced higher. Not sure what's going on with her "wings" (they seem to have tried to combined multiple ideas there), and the Beetle has a lot of stuff randomly tossed on that I'd need to take a Dremel tool to correct. I see what could be such an amazing model... But I guess they know their audience, because their audience seems to eat this stuff up, so maybe having cleaner, better models isn't as important as "LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF ON THE MODEL." (I probably should remember not to approach them from the POV of someone wanting to do "real" models.)

Asymmetrical Xeno
07-11-2016, 08:13 AM
"Alarielle the Everqueen has already proven to be one of the most popular Warhammer models in history." (from AOS fb page)

Well, thats promising! hopefully that will translate to more female models!

eldargal
07-11-2016, 08:19 AM
Not surprised, she's a fairly prominent background figure who has been without a really outstanding model for a long time, and the new one is astoundingly good and not even overly sexualised.

Mr Mystery
07-11-2016, 08:24 AM
Certainly better than this monstrosity of a waste opportunity...

http://lighteffect.net/blogs/wp-content/gallery/michael/ariel.jpg

It's like an impressionist take on Sarah Jessica Parker.

Asymmetrical Xeno
07-11-2016, 08:59 AM
Not surprised, she's a fairly prominent background figure who has been without a really outstanding model for a long time, and the new one is astoundingly good and not even overly sexualised.

It makes me feel cautiously optimistic. Heres hoping it leads to more female representation in the future, and not just in AoS.

Erik Setzer
07-13-2016, 05:18 AM
"Alarielle the Everqueen has already proven to be one of the most popular Warhammer models in history." (from AOS fb page)

Well, thats promising! hopefully that will translate to more female models!

By what measure? Yeah, there might be a good bit of talk about her, but that's not really a measurable statistic. I seriously doubt sales figures will back that, because a lot of people who like the model won't be able to afford it. Sounds like marketing posturing. But eh... I'll let them do their thing with claiming every new thing is the most popular ever. It seems to be all they have left to market with these days. "People like our stuff, trust us!"

Personally, I think it's another grand example of them taking what could have been great and making it remarkably normal AT BEST. There's a lot of junk on the model that's unnecessary and looks awful and is there to make people say, "Oh, wow, there's a lot of stuff on the model, that means it's got lots of detail, so it must be a great model and must be worth a lot!" I look at that junk and say, "Lovely, if I ever get rich enough to have that kind of money to throw at the wall, I'll still have to spend way too much time fixing the bloody model so it's presentable as a real model." They could have knocked it out of the park but instead gave into their urge to make a model noisy because they want to impress the easily-impressed crowd (which doesn't fit their uber-niche business plan well).

Mr Mystery
07-13-2016, 06:06 AM
Guess that's why it sold out for a while?

But of course - you don't like the price, so it can't be that. Must be made up nonsense.

grimmas
07-13-2016, 07:28 AM
Guess that's why it sold out for a while?

But of course - you don't like the price, so it can't be that. Must be made up nonsense.

Pretty much all I've seen on Twitter of late has been Alarielle. Some seriously spectacular work as well. Judging by the rules plenty of gaming to be had with her as well as some serious painting opportunity

I don't know about anyone else but I've found that bigger models need a higher level of detailing because they look a bit barren without it, however with the larger models the detail is so nicely defined it is very easy to paint.

Path Walker
07-13-2016, 09:45 AM
I'm now convinced Erik is trolling us all and he's actually a normal, together guy putting on an act.

Erik Setzer
07-13-2016, 03:58 PM
Guess that's why it sold out for a while?

But of course - you don't like the price, so it can't be that. Must be made up nonsense.

Or it could be a glitch in the system, or they opted to not make as many as they had prior large models because they saw the demand slipping (but still doesn't mean it's that amazing), or a number of other reasons.

And the price isn't my biggest issue, but I do think the price multiplies the big issue, which is that the model has a lot of "fluff" on it that they threw on to say "LOOK! DETAIL!" and actually just harms the overall look, and I'd hate to pay $130 or whatever for a model I'll have to take a set of tools to in order to fix it. She's not the only model with that problem. Archaon's a $165 model that requires some green stuff to fix, but at least his issues are relatively minor. They're over-"designing" things, and it works with people who love lots of bits on their models, but those are the same crowd who will be impressed with Flash on a website and pretty stars and lots of sound.

If you like that kind of stuff, whatever, go put your money where your mouth is and buy the model and enjoy it.

But where the price does come in here is that, at that price, it's too high to sell well enough to be "one of the most popular miniatures." That's just the way it is. People aren't made of money, after all, and if they have that kind of money around and want to go with GW kits, they're likely going to go with something like Warhammer Quest or grab multiple additions to their army. A high-priced niche model isn't going to have high sales numbers. So that leaves their metric for "popularity" with "sixty people said nice things on Facebook, so she's popular!"

Come on, man, if you want to defend GW against all criticism of any kind, even just perceived criticism, at least come at it from a logical standpoint. They used hyperbole in a marketing comment, it happens, companies make silly claims like that all the time. Thing is, a lot of us know it's just empty hyperbole and not really backed by anything other than the Marketing team wanting to push the latest product. (GW's hardly the only ones guilty of that sin, either. It's a terrible plague in the Marketing community.)