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Bigred
01-27-2016, 01:15 PM
images via Tiny Plastic Spacemen (http://www.tinyplasticspacemen.com/) and Spikeybits Hobbies (https://www.facebook.com/groups/spikeybitshobbies/) (Facebook) 1-27-2016

Facebook user Chris Smith got these images at the Nuremberg toy fair. These pictures show a new line of Games Workshop "Build & Paint" kits that look to be aimed specifically at toy and model shops.

Note the following:


Colored plastic, removing the base coating step for some of the kits.
Very small simple GW kits with few parts.
Paints, glue and brushes included.
Good pricepoint for all the hobby gear included.
November 2016 Targeted release.



I think this is a FANTASTIC new approach by GW. They are taking some older existing assets and using them to put together an introductory line aimed at newcomers who have never heard of Warhamer 40,000. It's a good sign of Nottingham pushing out into new markets to reach anew demographic.


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Mr Mystery
01-27-2016, 01:28 PM
Interesting stuff.

Wonder how 'mock up' mock up is - sample of the kind of thing, with new models to come, or literally just 'boxes may differ'

son_of_volmer
01-27-2016, 06:26 PM
I think the bike kit says on the box it also comes with a captain. What looks like a terminator sergeant is sitting next to the bike sprue. It looks to me like the plastic Terminators that came before Assault on Blackreach. Might just be a place holder. Maybe this box will have the captain from Blackreach?

Do you think the paints are layer paints or base paints?

Super glue or plastic glue? Plastic glue could get kids into a completely different hobby, super glue causes more immediate mishaps.

The ork battletrukk raises a few questions. A Battletrukk isn't a real unit. The artwork is from the trukk from Gorkamorka. Surely those molds were tossed, right? The mold for the Gorkamorka trukk is almost the same age as the space marine bike, and I think that the gorkamorka trukk sprue had a couple of boys on the same sprue.

I wonder if the boxes will made out of cheaper cardboard, like the thin stuff all the other model kits use.

Also if they wanted to boost sales to new customers, they could make the back part of the box cut out cardboard terrain like the stuff that used to come in the WD.

Asymmetrical Xeno
01-27-2016, 06:38 PM
i think Hell has officially frozen over, GW giving info on future games, return of specialist games now affordable entry level products? What the heck? Very cool either way....now wheres my codex slaugth!

son_of_volmer
01-27-2016, 07:00 PM
Current ork trukk retails for $44 Canadian and the BUILD+PAINT kits states it as $27CAD

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I suspect the ork war bike is the second edition plastic ork bike

Erik Setzer
01-27-2016, 07:09 PM
No reason for them to have tossed old molds. The old Trukk wasn't terrible. I still use some in my multi-clan army. They have a special place in my heart.

son_of_volmer
01-27-2016, 07:33 PM
If you look at the Assault on Black Reach many of the sprues are orks and marines mixed. The dread can be isolated from the rest of the sprue, but the termies are all mixed up. I'm willing to bet the termies are second edition plastic.

Arkhan Land
01-27-2016, 11:08 PM
no second edition plastic were their own thing they came on small bases, assault on black reach termies are current sized/based and have a bit more possability/detail. ide bet theyre something entirely different. maybe multiples of single sprues

Erik Setzer
01-28-2016, 08:42 AM
You can modify a sprue setup. Heck, the people who make knockoff copies are able to pull it off, I'm pretty sure the guys with the originals can do a better job if they want. You can see they've got at least one sprue of AoBR Orks there, so it's not unreasonable to think they'd go that route.

Either way, you just don't want to showcase the 2E starter Marines. The Orks weren't that bad, but the Marines were pretty light on detail. They stand out against other Marines of the time, they're certainly going to look wrong next to more modern figures.

HsojVvad
01-29-2016, 01:53 PM
The ork battletrukk raises a few questions. A Battletrukk isn't a real unit. The artwork is from the trukk from Gorkamorka. Surely those molds were tossed, right? The mold for the Gorkamorka trukk is almost the same age as the space marine bike, and I think that the gorkamorka trukk sprue had a couple of boys on the same sprue.


Well maybe it will come back in the new Ork codex next year?

What I don't understand is why will 8 year olds be using glue and exacto knives?

Also wouldn't GW be shooting themselves in the foot? I mean showing you that if you want GW toys, you will have to assemble them off a sprue, and paint them while other fully built, in a lot of cases movable limbs and no assembly required. I know when I was 8, and my kids, we wanted to play right away out of the box.

Why is GW targeting 8 year olds now? I know they pissed off the veterans, did they piss of all the teens now that Little Timmies are not buying anymore so they need to target younger kids now? :D

Arkhan Land
01-29-2016, 07:56 PM
well they're releasing them targeted to non-gw gaming stores, hobby stores and some big box stores, I would assume that kids incredibly young kids are at the whim of their parents. I got into warhammer right around 1st/2nd grade, basically ended up with the orks from a freinds box-set. at age like what 8?7?9? cant remember we were all freaked out, keeping in the mind the rarity back in the day of an up to date computer that could play decent violent shootem-ups, and the fact that it was in fact a billion times more amazing than any board game we had ever played.

In a digital age I kind of wonder if kids my age really care about physical toys/hobbies to the same extent

son_of_volmer
01-30-2016, 07:36 AM
Most of the kits are things you can run around and go VROOM with (similar to airplane models)

If you think 8 year old prefer Video games to models, walk them by a GW and see if the displays catch their eye.

The second edition terminators are pretty posable. Their waist locks into a peg and they can rotate 360 degrees. If you don't glue the arms on you get good range of motion. It's a few points of articulation away from a lego figure. Look at the blue plastic terminator sprue in the photos with the bike... it's second ed!

Arkhan Land
01-30-2016, 09:49 AM
I noticed the one old terminator sarge thats next to the bike, had figured that for a stand in as he isnt a captain. I dont think theyd go as far as to do something that crazy. never know though we are in weird times. those old terminators are in fact some of the easisest to assemble ever.

son_of_volmer
01-31-2016, 06:33 PM
Either the Terminator sergeant is a place-holder, or they aren't accurately labeling the contents of boxes in-game terms.

They may have dusted off the old terminator mold, pumped it full of their blue plastic, and brought him to show off while they rework whichever Captain model mold is going to be included with the final product. They do have until November 2016.

If it is actually going to come packaged with the terminator sergeant, it's got a banner pole on the sprue. I doubt they're going to provide the old sticker-banners.

spagunk
02-01-2016, 05:38 AM
I'm pretty certain the original person who covered this said the rep stated these were place holder models and mock up images. Models and box art was not yet finalized.

My guess is AoBR for the easy to put together models. They already have them in separate, 3 man boxes normally. They also use them in their painting sets already so not a huge stretch for them to use existing ones. But that is just my opinion.

Mr Mystery
02-01-2016, 05:41 AM
I'd just like to say I think they'd be bonkers not to do a 'light' rule set to go with these. Something between Space Crusade and 40k.

Hendrik Booraem VI
02-01-2016, 07:41 AM
What I don't understand is why will 8 year olds be using glue and exacto knives?


What's wrong with 8 year olds using glue and X-Acto knives?

Erik Setzer
02-01-2016, 09:26 AM
I'd just like to say I think they'd be bonkers not to do a 'light' rule set to go with these. Something between Space Crusade and 40k.

While it'd be good to not have the little ones go from assembling simple toys to seeing a complex game with intertwining rules sets that start at $85 for the core rules and $50-$58 for an army book, I'm not sure how that'll work. In theory, they could do a light rules set and just release it free, but there could be fear that it'd compete with standard 40K and people might opt to play the "light" rules rather than the full set, ditching the cost of the books. I think most people would still just stick with the full kit when they can, and having options would be nice, with the "light" set attracting not just kids but possibly other people who want to get into the game but don't want to take the full leap (and may not be able to afford to). Said rules could be packed into the Start Collecting! boxed sets as well.

It'd make sense, but I'm not sure how much sense is going around in Nottingham these days.

HsojVvad
02-01-2016, 08:54 PM
What's wrong with 8 year olds using glue and X-Acto knives?

When it was recommended before to be 16 when to use those products?

Defenestratus
02-02-2016, 08:58 AM
When it was recommended before to be 16 when to use those products?

I was driving farm tractors with 8-foot wide mowing decks and shooting 20 gauge shotguns at 8 years old.

Glue and exacto knives are no biggie as long as parents do their damn jobs.

Mr Mystery
02-02-2016, 08:59 AM
I was driving farm tractors with 8-foot wide mowing decks and shooting 20 gauge shotguns at 8 years old.
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Did nobody mind the heavily armed old duffer shooting up sprogs from the back of a Tractor?

Who said USA isn't liberal :p

Defenestratus
02-02-2016, 09:23 AM
Did nobody mind the heavily armed old duffer shooting up sprogs from the back of a Tractor?

Who said USA isn't liberal :p

When you have 11 acres of horse farm pasture and you father is laid up with a neck disc fusion then its up to you to keep the place running - which included mowing the pastures and killing foxes and possums.

And a 20 gauge isn't "heavily armed" by a long shot.

Mr Mystery
02-02-2016, 09:25 AM
d'oh! You've misread my deliberate misreading :p

Or have you.....did I just suffer a literary rick-roll?

*enters state of quantum uncertainty*

Defenestratus
02-02-2016, 09:29 AM
d'oh! You've misread my deliberate misreading :p

Or have you.....did I just suffer a literary rick-roll?

*enters state of quantum uncertainty*

I understood the gist of your humor.

I don't joke about firearms though, unless they're called "Frostguns" or some other such nonsense.

Off track discussion though. 16 years old recommended age for plastic glue and a little knife is ridiculous IMO. At 16 years old my grandfather has lied about his age to enlist in the army and by the time he was 17 was in North Africa beating back the ****s on his way through Italy sleeping in piles of horse dung to keep warm during the winter.

I'm sick of the coddling we're giving people these days. Time to grow up precious snowflakes!

Mr Mystery
02-02-2016, 09:41 AM
Health and Safety - the fine art preventing the terminally stupid and terminally greedy from making a quick buck.

Peanuts with 'Warning - Contains Nuts, not suitable for Nut Allergy Sufferers'? Yep. Someone probably successfully sued.

Hey, who knew Coffee was normally served really hot? Well, it wasn't actively pointed out - successful lawsuit abounds.

It feels like coddling, it's mostly the 11th Commandment, and the covering of one's own bahookie. It's the price of an increasingly litigious society (globally at that, it's not a local phenomena)