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Bigred
01-23-2016, 01:45 PM
GW-Fanworld.net’s Dark Warrior (http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showthread.php/213502-Diskussion-Age-Of-Sigmar-Neuerscheinungen?p=3511609&viewfull=1#post3511609) reports:
From White Dwarf 105
In the Original German:
“Hab den White Dwarf vom 30. gesehen. Darin sind neu:
Repack von vielen Chaoskrieger Modellen, Ritter und Barbarenreiter sind jetzt 10er Boxen, Rest gleich, Preise stehen nicht dabei.
Dann erscheint eine Armeebox, Lord Heldrath’s Chaos Deathtide, zwei Streitwagen, 5 Ritter, 10 Barbarenreiter, 16 Krieger, Lord auf Mantikor. 145€.
Das nächste Kampagnen Buch, Balance of Power. 304 Seiten für 60€.
Dann noch Wardens of the Everqueen, eine Novelle, sowie das Space Wolves Audio Parting of the Ways.
Teaser lautet; Nach 10.000 Jahren kehren die verlorenen Brüder zurück. Könnte auf Wulfen bzw. 13. Kompanie zielen?”
Translated into English:
‘Many repacks of old Chaos Warrior models, including knights and barbarian riders, who are now 10 per box, rest remains the same.
A battalion, Lord Heldrath’s Chaos Deathtide, 2 chariots, 5 knights, 10 barbarian riders, 16 warriors, 1 Lord on Manticor, for 145€
Next campaign book, Balance of Power, 304 pages, 60€ (in line with previous AoS campaign books)
Wardens of the Everqueen, a novella, and Space Wolves Audio drama, ‘Parting of the Ways.
Teaser: “After 10,000 years the lost brothers return.”
Wait WHAT!!!
“After 10,000 years the lost brothers return.”
Everything is pointing to the Space Wolves returning in February – and sounds a LOT like we are looking at the return of:
The Space Wolves 13th Company
via John Seng on Spikey Bits Hobbies and Warseer (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?415310-Space-Wolves-in-February-2016&p=7597803&viewfull=1#post7597803)1-23-2016
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Now take a closer look at this cover. It looks to be issue 106, and dated February 6th, which is two weeks from now. That is also the day of the now annual Horus Heresy weekender at Warhammer World.
++UPDATE++
Via Scanner 1-25-2016 (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29472-New-Space-Wolves-Spotted)
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http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16988&d=1453736406
which lines up nicely with the German sighting on Saturday:
GW-Fanworld.net's Dark Warrior (http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showthread.php/213502-Diskussion-Age-Of-Sigmar-Neuerscheinungen?p=3511609&viewfull=1#post3511609) reports:
From White Dwarf 105
In the Original German:
Teaser lautet; Nach 10.000 Jahren kehren die verlorenen Brüder zurück. Könnte auf Wulfen bzw. 13. Kompanie zielen?"
Translated into English:
Teaser: "After 10,000 years the lost brothers return."
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Via 40kings 1-29-2016 (http://www.40kings.de/2016/01/vorschau-auf-die-neuen-space-wolves/)
(translated)
The White Dwarf 6 February making the rounds. And with it a whole range of exciting images that give us an impression of the upcoming releases.
New Space Wolves Decal Sheet $20
Space Wolf Art Book $50
Space Wolf Hard Cover Short Story Collection? $27
1703517036
via scanner (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29784-Readable-Space-Wolf-Rules)2-1-2016
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Mr Mystery
01-23-2016, 02:46 PM
So....
Tyranid style additional unit, or Harlequin style Codex?
Place your bets please.
Erik Setzer
01-23-2016, 08:13 PM
I'll just paste my comment from the article on the front page.
I'm sorry, but these models are actually bad enough to induce nausea in me. From the one's horrible Karate Kid pose, to the arms that are larger than a guy's head, and everything in between, these harken back to the worst of the worst, in league with original Lemartes and old school Nagash's head.
What happened to their design team? The new Space Wolves they'd been releasing looked pretty good (Logan's sleigh was a dumb idea but it was a sound model, and he looked good). Murderface McMurderpants was the only questionable one of the bunch, and it was more his concept and the head sticking out that made him bad.
These guys are just awful. Even the AoS stuff I don't like hasn't induced as much of a feeling of disgust in me as these have. It's like they're hiring minimum wage sculpting interns and letting them do production models.
"Best miniatures in the world"... bollocks.
- - - Updated - - -
It might be that I like Space Wolves that I find these models so revolting. But I think it's just that anything THAT bad makes me feel sick, and it's just made so much worse when you have such horrible looking bargain bin models being billed as "the best in the world" and "premium models." Price won't matter a bit to me, because if I want a unit of those guys in my army, I'll make my own. Or just hunt down the old models, which will probably be cheaper. (And if they're such jerks that they make it so you can't use the old models, I'm going to be more pissed. Folks bought them, then you kill off their army, now they have hope they can use them again... let the people use their old models! I have a feeling even if they try that, gamers will be nice enough to each other to allow it anyway.)
Al Shut
01-24-2016, 03:44 AM
Have there been any better pics than the one above? I can't make out very much on that.
Charon
01-24-2016, 04:25 AM
I love werewolf Jesus and the fabulous one that look like he is checking his makeup or taking a selfie with his servoskull.
Have to agree... terrible poses and way worse than their first minis in the eye of terror campaign.
Captain Bubonicus
01-24-2016, 08:48 AM
I love werewolf Jesus and the fabulous one that look like he is checking his makeup or taking a selfie with his servoskull.
Have to agree... terrible poses and way worse than their first minis in the eye of terror campaign.
Hard to believe it, but they actually made those Teen Wolf minis look good in retrospect.
Al Shut
01-24-2016, 10:04 AM
the fabulous one that look like he is [...]taking a selfie with his servoskull.
Goddammit, I can't unsee.
Erik Setzer
01-25-2016, 10:22 AM
"I'm going to cleave your skull in a minute. But first, let me take a selfie." (Cue music.)
Alaric
01-25-2016, 10:54 AM
"I'm going to cleave your skull in a minute. But first, let me take a selfie." (Cue music.)
lol
Learn2Eel
01-26-2016, 08:12 PM
I don't mind the models honestly, besides I feel the Wulfen will follow the example set by Centurions; look "awful" in the low quality pre-release images, surprise everyone with their actual good quality once viewed in person. Rules-wise I am curious how they will operate, I wouldn't be surprised if they are somewhat similar to the Word Bearers Gal Vorbak as far as stats are concerned. Hopefully they have access to transports or are fast moving as I'm assuming they are a melee centric unit.
Defenestratus
01-27-2016, 10:04 AM
I feel the Wulfen will follow the example set by Centurions; look "awful" in the low quality pre-release images, surprise everyone with their actual good quality once viewed in person.
Curious as to which Centurion models you're looking at. The ones I see on table tops are still the horribly tubby, static, 2-dimensional models they've always been - good pics or not.
Apparently the Wolfen are 30ppm with W4, 4+ sv and FNP
Kirsten
01-27-2016, 10:23 AM
Two wounds, not four
Path Walker
01-27-2016, 10:26 AM
Curious as to which Centurion models you're looking at. The ones I see on table tops are still the horribly tubby, static, 2-dimensional models they've always been - good pics or not.
Apparently the Wolfen are 30ppm with W4, 4+ sv and FNP
They're T4, but T in German is W. They have 2 Wounds (LP in German)
WS 4, BS 2, S 5 (maybe 3), T 4, W 2, I 5, A 3, Ld 8 with 4+ Sv and Feel No Pain (verletzung ignorieren)
Can't read the rest sorry.
And once you build some Centurions, they're a lot nicer, you see how they go together and make sense. They have as much movement as is sensible for a walking tank wearing a bigger walking tank.
Erik Setzer
01-27-2016, 11:15 AM
Two wounds, three attacks, S5, T4, WS4, BS2, I5, 4+ armor... They might not have amazing armor, but they're tough sods. Can't read all the special rules in the pic I saw, the page was curved and they weren't in English.
Demonus
01-27-2016, 11:28 AM
Each model may take a salvo grenade launcher xpts each
Each model may take one of the following:
Two Handed Frost Axe xpts each
Two Wolf Claws xpts each
Thunderhammer and Stormshield xpts each
One Wulfen can be upgraded to Wulfen-Pack Leader with two Frost Claws xpts
This unit may take a stormwolf as a dedicated transport
Friend linked this. I cut out the points costs but the most expensive is the same price as a scarab base :D
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abilities loosely translated so may not be 100% accurate:
Berserker (Rage? Rampage?)
-Know no Fear (ATSKNF)
-Curse of the Wulfen
-Counterattack
-Sharp senses (acute senses?)
-Feel no Pain
-Bulky
-Deathfrenzy: If a modell in this unit is killed it can move up and attack at the end of the current initiative step. This even applies if the model already has attacked.”
-Leaping Bounds: This unit can run and attack. It also rerolls failed charge rolls.
Asymmetrical Xeno
01-27-2016, 11:29 AM
http://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/420
http://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/421
more pics there, finally..
Bigred
01-27-2016, 11:46 AM
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Erik Setzer
01-27-2016, 11:51 AM
Each model may take a salvo grenade launcher xpts each
Each model may take one of the following:
Two Handed Frost Axe xpts each
Two Wolf Claws xpts each
Thunderhammer and Stormshield xpts each
One Wulfen can be upgraded to Wulfen-Pack Leader with two Frost Claws xpts
This unit may take a stormwolf as a dedicated transport
Friend linked this. I cut out the points costs but the most expensive is the same price as a scarab base :D
*edit*
abilities loosely translated so may not be 100% accurate:
Berserker (Rage? Rampage?)
-Know no Fear (ATSKNF)
-Curse of the Wulfen
-Counterattack
-Sharp senses (acute senses?)
-Feel no Pain
-Bulky
-Deathfrenzy: If a modell in this unit is killed it can move up and attack at the end of the current initiative step. This even applies if the model already has attacked.”
-Leaping Bounds: This unit can run and attack. It also rerolls failed charge rolls.
So it's a unit of hero models armed with the best gear who can ignore the limitations on running and charging (with Fleet to boot!), and can potentially attack twice in a round.
I'm a Space Wolf fan, and I still feel sick reading all that.
grimmas
01-27-2016, 12:50 PM
After every other Space Wolf codex we really shouldn't be surprised anymore. Or as we said locally "cheating like a space wolf".
I'm going to hold off commenting on the model till I see them I the flesh the photography seems to do funny things sometimes. The Turox looks pants in the pictures but really works in the flesh I'm assuming it's something to do with perspective and scale.
Erik Setzer
01-27-2016, 01:08 PM
After every other Space Wolf codex we really shouldn't be surprised anymore. Or as we said locally "cheating like a space wolf".
I'm going to hold off commenting on the model till I see them I the flesh the photography seems to do funny things sometimes. The Turox looks pants in the pictures but really works in the flesh I'm assuming it's something to do with perspective and scale.
I think the Taurox is a bit "meh" stock, but replace the tracks with a wheel kit (I know at least one site had them) and it's actually pretty nice. Went from unimpressed to wanting to get one as an Arbites Justice Wagon.
Voracioustigger
01-27-2016, 01:38 PM
The double attacks certainly takes me back to the days of the Eye of Terror Codex with the 13th Company. Mark of the Wulfen gave all characters (including squad leaders) +D3 attacks. Coupled with Lightning claws or a Powerfist, they took out just about anything.
An army of Wulfen will probably be equally as silly as the original 13th Company (which were fun, but silly). I routinely reached close combat with less than a dozen models (and with only a squad of Long Fangs for supporting fire), and would table opponents easily. Different game back then, but, if I'm reading the rules right, it's possible to get 10 TH attacks of 14 Frostclaw attacks (leader) on the charge... from one model. Maybe not effective, but will certainly be entertaining if even a few models make it across the table.
Mr Mystery
01-27-2016, 01:45 PM
4+ save neuters (PUN!) them somewhat by reducing resilience.
Sure. They're still pretty tough with 2 Wounds and I suspect FnP, but I can think of a fair number of S8 AP4 weapons which just came into their own :)
Asymmetrical Xeno
01-27-2016, 01:51 PM
More intrigued by the new backround than rules, it sounds like a possible advance in the time line.
Tzeentch's Dark Agent
01-27-2016, 07:35 PM
50 points a model for Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield?
On that profile? Yes please. They're even better than Terminators
zanth
01-28-2016, 12:33 AM
That line about brothers returning after 10k years, is it possible that Leman Russ himself might return and be playable in 40K? Or did I totally miss something in the fluff for the Space Wolves?
spagunk
01-28-2016, 05:24 AM
******redacted**********
Merellin
01-28-2016, 06:07 AM
10 000 years ago the thirteent great company of the spacewolves was lost when they chased the Thousand sons into the warp. They ahd a great many wulfen. Now, Wulfen are returning, So probably the 13'th company is returning.
Mr Mystery
01-28-2016, 06:29 AM
Leman Russ lead that charge though....and I doubt there's anything hard enough to drop him :)
Psychosplodge
01-28-2016, 07:24 AM
Leman Russ lead the charge? I thought Russ vanished at a feast taking all his Wolf Guard except Bjorn?
Also didn't they already come back during the 13th dark crusade?
Mr Mystery
01-28-2016, 07:27 AM
His was the 13th Company?
I think.
I dunno. Maybe I'm confused, and the 13th Company went looking Russ?
And no. That didn't actually happen, K?
Psychosplodge
01-28-2016, 07:31 AM
I think you're probably right in they're probably the ones sent to look for him? Or they followed the thousand sons, but doesn't Russ feature in the heresy post purging of prospero? so he doesn't go then.
Oh did Abaddon wake up one morning and decide not to invade this decade after all?
Mr Mystery
01-28-2016, 08:00 AM
Some neckbeard brought out their tattered copy of Slaves to Darkness the copy which must never be viewed under a blacklight, and explained to him why his invasion was Mary Sue and shouldn't succeed.
Abaddon had one whiff of said Neckbeard's breath and nearly fainted - halitosis can be a killer when you've got enhanced senses.
He's currently back in the Eye of Terror whilst Fabius Bile fumes that a mere mortal could create such an intoxicating stench with no help from Chaos.
Bigred
01-28-2016, 08:11 AM
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Psychosplodge
01-28-2016, 08:22 AM
Some neckbeard brought out their tattered copy of Slaves to Darkness the copy which must never be viewed under a blacklight, and explained to him why his invasion was Mary Sue and shouldn't succeed.
Abaddon had one whiff of said Neckbeard's breath and nearly fainted - halitosis can be a killer when you've got enhanced senses.
He's currently back in the Eye of Terror whilst Fabius Bile fumes that a mere mortal could create such an intoxicating stench with no help from Chaos.
*snort*
Mr Mystery
01-28-2016, 08:23 AM
Saga Edition is looking interesting....unique dice by the look of it.
Certainly an improvement over 'we pimped yo cover, yo' of other Ltd Eds. Whether it's worth the asking price remains a matter for the individual.
Psychosplodge
01-28-2016, 08:51 AM
I liked my pimped cover and shiny edged codex. I don't think it was worth what I paid for it though.
Voracioustigger
01-28-2016, 10:22 AM
Sounds like we may be getting Sternhammer (13th Company Wolf Priest Special Character)...
Evidence...
1) Helfrost Pistol in wargear (that Wulfen can't take, so we would assume a new character - and Plasma Pistols are common on Wolf Priests).
2) Wulfen are apparently popping up all over (Sternhammer was the Warden of the lost (i.e. Wulfen) and could reportedly bring the Wulfen to Battles all over the galaxy with impossible speed)
3) Sternhammer has already been given official rules in the past twice (once as a supplement, once in Apoc).
4) There is a "Stormhammer" with the Helfrost ability, but the Wulfen entry appears to read "Thunderhammer" from all the translators. It seems the Stormhammer would likely be Sternhammer's special Thunder Hammer.
The original Sternhammer was a beast (and conferred the old 4+ FNP to attached Wulfen), so Wulfen may get yet ANOTHER boost if it turns out that we get a new character too.
zanth
01-28-2016, 11:32 AM
Sounds like we may be getting Sternhammer (13th Company Wolf Priest Special Character)...
Evidence...
1) Helfrost Pistol in wargear (that Wulfen can't take, so we would assume a new character - and Plasma Pistols are common on Wolf Priests).
2) Wulfen are apparently popping up all over (Sternhammer was the Warden of the lost (i.e. Wulfen) and could reportedly bring the Wulfen to Battles all over the galaxy with impossible speed)
3) Sternhammer has already been given official rules in the past twice (once as a supplement, once in Apoc).
4) There is a "Stormhammer" with the Helfrost ability, but the Wulfen entry appears to read "Thunderhammer" from all the translators. It seems the Stormhammer would likely be Sternhammer's special Thunder Hammer.
The original Sternhammer was a beast (and conferred the old 4+ FNP to attached Wulfen), so Wulfen may get yet ANOTHER boost if it turns out that we get a new character too.
I think that's Ulrik, he's listed as, "No Longer Available" on GW's site.
Edit: Erp, sorry, I thought you were referencing the picture posted, sorry.
Captain Bubonicus
01-28-2016, 01:00 PM
Sounds like we may be getting Sternhammer (13th Company Wolf Priest Special Character)...
Evidence...
1) Helfrost Pistol in wargear (that Wulfen can't take, so we would assume a new character - and Plasma Pistols are common on Wolf Priests).
2) Wulfen are apparently popping up all over (Sternhammer was the Warden of the lost (i.e. Wulfen) and could reportedly bring the Wulfen to Battles all over the galaxy with impossible speed)
3) Sternhammer has already been given official rules in the past twice (once as a supplement, once in Apoc).
4) There is a "Stormhammer" with the Helfrost ability, but the Wulfen entry appears to read "Thunderhammer" from all the translators. It seems the Stormhammer would likely be Sternhammer's special Thunder Hammer.
The original Sternhammer was a beast (and conferred the old 4+ FNP to attached Wulfen), so Wulfen may get yet ANOTHER boost if it turns out that we get a new character too.
Good call - I'd forgotten all about him.
Bigred
01-28-2016, 06:23 PM
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Readable Wulfen rules
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Tzeentch's Dark Agent
01-28-2016, 08:40 PM
I still can't read German. xD
The Girl
01-29-2016, 10:05 AM
Via 40kings 1-29-2016 (http://www.40kings.de/2016/01/vorschau-auf-die-neuen-space-wolves/)
(translated)
The White Dwarf 6 February making the rounds. And with it a whole range of exciting images that give us an impression of the upcoming releases.
New Space Wolves Decal Sheet $20
Space Wolf Art Book $50
Space Wolf Hard Cover Short Story Collection? $27
1703517036
Al Shut
01-29-2016, 10:21 AM
That's no art book, it's an limited art print.
They're even better than Terminators
Yeah, that's not saying much these days.
Bigred
02-01-2016, 11:27 AM
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Erik Setzer
02-01-2016, 12:39 PM
"Hey, Tom, these models look kind of rubbish. I don't think people will buy them. What should we do?"
"Make them super good, super tough, buff all the units around them, and even ignore the rules. People will practically have to buy them!"
Yeah, I'll be breaking out green stuff and bitz, but I'll definitely have these guys scattered throughout my force to add a bunch of AP1/2 close combat that can run and charge and buffs all my units around them.
Bigred
02-01-2016, 06:49 PM
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Space Wolf & Chaos Daemons Releases
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AdamHarry
02-02-2016, 10:14 AM
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AdamHarry
02-02-2016, 10:22 AM
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Voracioustigger
02-02-2016, 10:26 AM
@ AdamHarry
Thanks for posting... I just noticed that those pages say there will be a "Wulfen Murderpack" formation.
The Rules page says "...and the Wulfen Murderpack makes these feral warriors even faster and more dangerous"
...as if you needed another reason to take them!
Erik Setzer
02-02-2016, 10:32 AM
"Murderpack?" Really? What happened to the Space Wolves being about honor and all that? "Murder" is a death that's not justified. So suddenly the Space Wolves are all about unjustified killing? Really?
But hey, a formation? Guess I'll be converting a few more of these guys!
Andrew Thomas
02-02-2016, 11:22 AM
Discretion being the better part of valor, the best defense is a dead adversary.
Bigred
02-02-2016, 11:51 PM
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Voracioustigger
02-03-2016, 09:11 AM
Funny - I actually created a campaign after the EoT codex came out where the 13th Company returned to Fenris, and they were followed by Chaos (chasing them) and Dark Angels and Grey Knights (supported by other forces of the Imperium) to exterminate them (though I think back then GKs were more of a novelty). Worked out well (about 1/3 of our gaming group had Space Wolf armies, so it actually worked out well) except for the fact that we used City-Fight rules for when armies made it into the Fang... and the 13th Company was utterly broken to begin with, but even more so for City-Fight.
So about this cool, original campaign... not sayin... just sayin...
Mr Mystery
02-03-2016, 02:40 PM
Anyone else hoping that the Thousand Sons get a bit of new model love?
iheartgrimdark
02-03-2016, 02:50 PM
No Ulric miniature leaks yet?
Glyn Armitage
02-03-2016, 04:45 PM
yuck those wolfen are horrible minatures did someone hit the sculpters on the head with something? or did they have a couple to many in bugmans bar?
mdauben
02-04-2016, 03:51 PM
I toyed around with the original 13th Company list back in the Eye of Terror Codex. They were perhaps a bit broken, but I loved the fluff and the miniatures. Unfortunately, these new Wulfen aren't doing it for me. :(
Psychosplodge
02-05-2016, 02:21 AM
Yeah the new ones are so ugly.
Mr Mystery
02-05-2016, 03:48 AM
I dunno. I'm torn.
I think they convince more as meta-human Werewolves than their predecessors. They resemble the Werewolves I'm used to seeing in such films as The Howling, American Werewolf in London and (the superb) Dog Soldiers - taller and rangier than a human.
But some of the poses? I think I want to see them in the flesh, and find out whether it's just how they've been built, rather than how one has to build them.
grimmas
02-05-2016, 04:56 AM
"Murderpack?" Really? What happened to the Space Wolves being about honor and all that? "Murder" is a death that's not justified. So suddenly the Space Wolves are all about unjustified killing? Really?
But hey, a formation? Guess I'll be converting a few more of these guys!
Murderpack is also one of the Hellbrute formations. Just sayin
Cutter
02-05-2016, 05:44 AM
Murderpack is also one of the Hellbrute formations. Just sayin
It's what GW will be replacing the term 'squad' with, going forward.
Only forward.
To victory.
Hubristic
02-05-2016, 05:45 AM
I don't think there's been an official answer to this (at least not that I've seen) but are we thinking the wolves will get a new detachment (or at least errata to update dreads/tank squadrons etc) to bring them into line with DA/codex marines or are we just getting some formations? Seems like a wasted opportunity if it's the latter...
Mr Mystery
02-05-2016, 06:26 AM
Who knows?
So far, the Campaign Books have been mini-Codex updates, especially the recent Tau one. If you've got the previous Codex and those, you don't need the reissue.
Erik Setzer
02-05-2016, 09:11 AM
Murderpack is also one of the Hellbrute formations. Just sayin
Ah yes, the Helfist Murderpack.
For Chaos, that's fine (though the "Hel[blank]" naming convention needs work). Chaos has in many cases just accepted that they do some shady and awful stuff.
Space Wolves naming so much stuff after a dishonorable act that, at its core, is evil? Not one does it suggest someone needs to send a thesaurus to HQ, but it also just feels so wrong for the Space Wolves.
AdamHarry
02-05-2016, 09:40 AM
via Games Workshop (http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/WD-Visions-12-month-sub-ENG-2015) / Spikeybits (http://www.spikeybits.com/2016/02/gw-new-space-wolves-models-revealed.html)2-5-2015
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Voracioustigger
02-05-2016, 10:12 AM
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I think that settles it. From the image, it looks like the Tempest Hammer and Helfrost pistol are just going to be the new Ironpriest gear for SWs. No Sternhammer. Oh well.
Mr Mystery
02-05-2016, 10:12 AM
Oooh, nice.
That's two more Rogue Trader era figures off the shelves then :)
grimmas
02-05-2016, 10:13 AM
Ah yes, the Helfist Murderpack.
For Chaos, that's fine (though the "Hel[blank]" naming convention needs work). Chaos has in many cases just accepted that they do some shady and awful stuff.
Space Wolves naming so much stuff after a dishonorable act that, at its core, is evil? Not one does it suggest someone needs to send a thesaurus to HQ, but it also just feels so wrong for the Space Wolves.
I'm with you on this one I think they've let themselves down it's downright sloppy
Erik Setzer
02-05-2016, 10:19 AM
via Games Workshop (http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/WD-Visions-12-month-sub-ENG-2015) / Spikeybits (http://www.spikeybits.com/2016/02/gw-new-space-wolves-models-revealed.html)2-5-2015
These two models? Absolutely sexy. I've got a converted Iron Priest but would still gladly run this guy alongside him and field two. (The nice thing is, my conversion looks pretty close to this guy!) And Ulric is a seriously nice model. Kind of funny to see an old school "heroic pose" again rather than "action pose," but it works for him.
Green_Lumux
02-05-2016, 11:43 PM
I was going through the we store and noticed that the space wild tactical squad is missing; so I checked a few other countries we stores and it's completely gone there too... Any thoughts about what that means? Repacks? Hopefully they aren't dropping them to 5 man boxes like they did with grey knights and dire avengers :S
Charon
02-06-2016, 10:53 AM
And as predicted, the Daemons formations are complete crap.
from Dakkadakka:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240/678007.page#8433267
Khorne
1 Herald
8 units of either Bloodletters, Bloodcrushers or Fleshhounds
All units gain +1 attack while within 6" of one another.
All units benefit from the Heralds loci if they are within 12" of him.
Another formation:
3 Skull Cannons, squadron, may fire as one with an Apocolyptic Blast with AP3 and still Ignores cover, ouch.
Tzeentch
Herald
9 units of either Pink Horrors, Flamers or Exalted Flamers.
+1 Strength to all Warpflame attacks.
All units within 12" of the Herald benefit from his Loci.
Another formation:
1 Herald
9 units of either Screamers of Tzeentch or Burning Chariots
Chariots can do Slash attacks, inflicting D6 str 5 ap 4 hits on a unit they move over. Screamers get +1 hit.
All units within 12" of the Herald gain his Loci.
Nurgle
1 Herald
7 units of either Plaguebearers or Nurglings.
Enemies may not fire overwatch at units from this formation.
All units gain the Heralds Loci while within 12".
Another formation:
1 Herald
7 units of either Plague Drones or Beasts
All units gain Hammer of Wrath with poison 4+
1 unit within 12" of the herald may take a leadership test if they pass they can reroll failed charges and gain +3 attacks. If failed they must attempt to charge the nearest enemy.
Slaanesh
1 Herald
6 units of either Fiends of Slaanesh or Daemonettes.
Any enemy units in combat suffer -1 WS and -1I
All units within 12" of the herald benefit from its loci.
Another formation:
1 Herald
6 units from either Seekers, Hellflayer, Seeker Calvacade.
All units move 6" when running or moving flat out.
zanth
02-07-2016, 10:26 PM
I was going through the we store and noticed that the space wild tactical squad is missing; so I checked a few other countries we stores and it's completely gone there too... Any thoughts about what that means? Repacks? Hopefully they aren't dropping them to 5 man boxes like they did with grey knights and dire avengers :S
In this week's White Dwarf they show repacks of a bunch of SW kits. They look exactly the same, just with Adeptus Astartes on the box like the new Space Marine kits.
Psychosplodge
02-08-2016, 02:35 AM
Oooh, nice.
That's two more Rogue Trader era figures off the shelves then :)
I think the iron priest had aged rather better than most rogue trader era marines.
Bigred
02-08-2016, 11:02 AM
via Scanner (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29784-Readable-Space-Wolf-Rules&p=237405&viewfull=1#post237405) 2-8-2016
Latest Space Wolves minis (White Dwarf)
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Wolf of Winter
02-08-2016, 12:16 PM
Ulrik - Nice mini, wasted opportunity. He looks like he’s debriefing his squad, not wading into battle. Still better than the other version of him, but I would've liked to have seen more of an action pose.
Charon
02-08-2016, 01:01 PM
I would like him a lot more without the totem pole on his back. He has a very nice Odin flair. Krom on the other Hand looks embarassing as he is trying to be sporty in his servo armor attempting a split.
Bigred
02-08-2016, 11:51 PM
scanner (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29784-Readable-Space-Wolf-Rules&p=237440&viewfull=1#post237440) strikes again 2-8-2016
17323
The Space Wolves receive an $85 "Start Collecting" box with 14 miniatures.
1 Space Marine Commander
3 Thunderwolf Cavalry
10 Grey Hunters
That would be $113.75 if bought separately. 25% Off! Not to shabby GW.
Asymmetrical Xeno
02-09-2016, 05:11 AM
and if you buy it from dark sphere you can save another £9 on top of that 25% saving which is even better. glad they are continuing with these starter sets.
Mr Mystery
02-09-2016, 05:15 AM
Useful set as well, even for the hoariest Long Fang.
Thunderwoof are well 'ard and always welcome.
Grey Hunters are a stupidly flexible kit.
The Commander can be readily converted up to a Lone Wolf, or any other character barring an Iron Priest.
Psychosplodge
02-09-2016, 05:30 AM
But space marines on giant wolves? Still just no.
Asymmetrical Xeno
02-09-2016, 05:55 AM
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/456
Hello all !
(from atia) Next week hint is : Tactical Supremacy, Xenos coalition, Krom's Nemesis
Cheers.
bob
...funny that I see "Xenos Coalition" when i've jsut started a 40k Cabal army, probably nothing to do with them though. Any guesses whats next?
Kirsten
02-09-2016, 06:35 AM
the Bea'trix species of killer alien rabbits from the Potter galaxy.
Psychosplodge
02-09-2016, 10:26 AM
https://36.media.tumblr.com/b2534b4cfeb820042c82865196a79f25/tumblr_o28h01aSJB1ummjd5o1_540.jpg
Rissan4ever
02-09-2016, 11:09 AM
LOL! I love propaganda.
Thaldin
02-09-2016, 11:41 AM
I totally read that with the voice from the propaganda in Starship Troopers
Jared van Kell
02-09-2016, 07:13 PM
I totally read that with the voice from the propaganda in Starship Troopers
Would you like to know more?
..........If the answer is yes, please report to the nearest Adeptus Arbites precinct who have already been briefed on how to process your query.
(Citizens should be advised that all and any suspicious gunshots from within the precinct should be ignored as this is just the Arbites training.) ;)
JvK :cool:
Kirsten
02-10-2016, 05:52 AM
from What's New Today
"There’s also brand-new Warlord Traits and Hellforged Artefacts for Daemons of Khorne, Tzeentch, Slaanesh and Nurgle"
but of course we all know Slaanesh is going away, because BoLS keeps saying so.
Rissan4ever
02-10-2016, 12:39 PM
I knew it! The Space Wolves are a bunch of mutant freaks! Purge them with fire!
Bigred
02-11-2016, 11:14 AM
via Captain Citadel (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29784-Readable-Space-Wolf-Rules/page2)2-11-2016
The Rock emerges in Fenrisian space, complete with the Tower of Angels.
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Asymmetrical Xeno
02-11-2016, 12:40 PM
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/466
sounds like the sh1t has hit the fan for the space wolves...
Erik Setzer
02-11-2016, 12:56 PM
Wait... Space Wolves are becoming new Wulfen?
I swear, if they change the Space Wolves to all be werewolves in power armor (and awful models at that), I'm going to be officially done with 40K.
Haighus
02-11-2016, 03:40 PM
Wait... Space Wolves are becoming new Wulfen?
I swear, if they change the Space Wolves to all be werewolves in power armor (and awful models at that), I'm going to be officially done with 40K.
I suspect at most it would be akin to the Death Company for the Blood Angels- an occupational hazard for any Space Wolf.
Asymmetrical Xeno
02-11-2016, 07:10 PM
Yeah, with all the kits they've invested in for the army I doubt they would go that far. it does sound like the timeline is possibly moving forward though, perhaps they'll make the SW more rebels but still loyal to the emperor.
Rissan4ever
02-11-2016, 10:00 PM
The Space Wolf geneseed is clearly tainted and must be cleansed. If any of them remain loyal to the Emperor, they'll do the right thing and offer themselves up for extermination. The Emperor is merciful, and he will forgive them.
Psychosplodge
02-12-2016, 02:31 AM
That's not how space wolfs work and you know it :rolleyes:
But its nice to see the imperium embracing the traitors to their bossom and using them to cleanse the Emperors most loyal warriors.
Andrew Thomas
02-14-2016, 03:03 PM
Erik, I guess you missed (or are willfully ignoring) that they've been retconed to have served the role of executioner since their inception, and that prior to the Age of Darkness, Russ and his get were the go-to Legion for when you needed something dead for sure. Russ and Bjorn aren't exactly cavalier on the subject, but then again, they aren't moping around, whining over being duped by Horus either. The Wolves, ironically enough, don't waste time romanticizing their warfare the way that the rest of the Imperium, their cousins included, do, they just accept that what they're doing, while not exactly righteous, is necessary. They really are the last faction in the game to call the state-sanctioned mass-murder they're expected to perpetrate anything more aggrandizing than what it is: murder.
Mr Mystery
02-14-2016, 05:57 PM
Also goes some way to why they seek honour whenever they can - to prove they're more than just murderers.
Whilst they'll stand up to the Inquisiton when they want to wipeout survivors of a Daemonic incursion, that doesn't mean they won't think twice about slaughtering civilians when they're ordered to.
Erik Setzer
02-14-2016, 10:19 PM
Also goes some way to why they seek honour whenever they can - to prove they're more than just murderers.
That's kind of my point. There's a huge deal made about how they're trying to do what's RIGHT. Even if it means killing a bunch of people, they'd consider it "justified." The term "murder" is usually used for a more evil form of killing, without necessity. So it feels just wrong for them to run around using it so much.
I think they just don't have a thesaurus around, and the current pen of writers are having a hard time coming up with new names fast enough.
Mr Mystery
02-17-2016, 01:03 PM
Ooh, very nice!
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