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Mr.Gold
10-26-2015, 01:08 PM
If you have a unit of Sicarian Infiltrators, with the Princepts with a conversion field, if he saves a wound with it and a nearby (aka Melee) enemny unit was Blinded (reduced to Ws and Bs 1) because of this, due to the Neurostatic Aura the enemny unit would go down to Ws and Bs 0 (it doesn't state a minimum).

In the rules book it states that a model that drops to Ws or Bs 0 dies,

can anyone confirm this?

Haighus
10-26-2015, 01:59 PM
You need to check the exact wording due to the order modifiers are stacked- set values are applied after all other modifiers so stay fixed- Blind likely sets the values at Ws and Bs 1, so this will be applied after +/- and multipliers, meaning the affected models stay at Ws and Bs 1. I don't have my rulebook on me at the moment to confirm this though.

DarkLink
10-26-2015, 03:50 PM
It does not say a ws or bs 0 model dies. It says they can't make their respective attacks. A str or toughness 0 model dies.

Perversor
10-26-2015, 06:17 PM
You need to check the exact wording due to the order modifiers are stacked- set values are applied after all other modifiers so stay fixed- Blind likely sets the values at Ws and Bs 1, so this will be applied after +/- and multipliers, meaning the affected models stay at Ws and Bs 1. I don't have my rulebook on me at the moment to confirm this though.

If BS hits 0 nothing happens (just they can't shoot) if WS reach 0 they can't hit and any melee attack on them automatically hits without rolling any dice.

but if i'm not mistaken it's multiplicative, additions/substractions and finally set values. So it would be -1 due Neurostatic aura then blind (as it's a set value of 1)

Charistoph
10-26-2015, 06:28 PM
When it comes to Multiple Modifiers, neither timing nor aoe is ever a consideration, just the type.

Multiples and Divisives are determined first "at the same time". Then Additives and Subtractives are determined "at the same time". Finally, any set values are put in place.

It does not matter if the Set Value is applied first in time and then a subtractive is placed on the model. The Set Value has primacy and will still be applied last after the subractive modifier is in place.

So, it would be changing the WS/BS by -1, THEN setting them to 1.

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