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Bigred
10-25-2015, 10:19 AM
The codex is almost out.

Here are some highlights:

via Games Workshop (http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Codex-Tau-Empire-2015-EN) 10-24-2015

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via gamestrust.de (http://www.gamestrust.de/bilder,list1263,1,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire.html) 10-25-2015


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Bigred
10-25-2015, 01:36 PM
via GW, Black Library (http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/codex-tau-empire.html) and Apple iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/book/codex-tau-empire-enhanced/id1051275661?ls=1&mt=1110lqaZ) 10-24-2015


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Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
10-25-2015, 02:30 PM
Huh, I guess Fire Warrior squads are now 5-10? I always liked how the older rules/fluff paid respect to the idea that a four-fingered, two-handed species would use base 8 counting (although I suppose Battlesuit numbering abandoned that a bit ago. And yes, I'm not satisfied with "Translation issues" as an excuse :P).

Still, I recall a thread complaining that having a box of ten models serve a 6-12 unit represented GW trying to gouge customers, so I guess there's no pleasing everyone.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
10-25-2015, 02:32 PM
Fire Warrior Strike Squads are still max 12. :)
Those are Breachers on the pic.

Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
10-25-2015, 02:36 PM
Cool, thanks! Kinda funny that the Tau are varying up their squad size like that, but no big deal.

RGilbert26
10-25-2015, 04:06 PM
Fire Warrior Strike Squads are still max 12. :)
Those are Breachers on the pic.

Seeing that the dual box only has 10 men, I doubt they're still up to 12 strong.

Kirsten
10-25-2015, 05:26 PM
they can still be 12 strong

RGilbert26
10-26-2015, 04:26 AM
By buying two boxes to make 12, which means you'll need to buy another box to add 2 models to the second box, another to add 4 models to the third box and another add infinity to get squads of 12.

So I highly doubt they're 12 anymore.

Cutter
10-26-2015, 04:28 AM
By buying two boxes to make 12, which means you'll need to buy and another box and another add infinity to get squads of 12.

So I highly doubt they're 12 anymore.

Six boxes gets you five squads.

Math is hard.

If you're not prepared to drop 300 bucks on 5 squads, you're probably not the kind of customer GW wants...

Path Walker
10-26-2015, 04:35 AM
By buying two boxes to make 12, which means you'll need to buy another box to add 2 models to the second box, another to add 4 models to the third box and another add infinity to get squads of 12.

So I highly doubt they're 12 anymore.

12 and 10 have 60 as their lowest common denominator mate. If they'd moved it down to 10 maximum, existing Tau players would be complaining instead. Can't please everyone!

RGilbert26
10-26-2015, 05:00 AM
Regardless of maths I still doubt GW would have done this, so again I highly doubt you can still take squads of 12.

Oh and grow up.

Mr Mystery
10-26-2015, 05:01 AM
Reliable rumour mongers have confirmed they remain 12 strong.

Kirsten
10-26-2015, 05:55 AM
they are still available in twelve man squads. this is not a rumour, it is on the instruction sheet for building fire warriors. strike teams in 12, and breachers in 10

Cutter
10-26-2015, 06:45 AM
Regardless of maths I still doubt GW would have done this, so again I highly doubt you can still take squads of 12.

Ok, I'll bite, why do you doubt it? The case for 12 man teams of fire warriors is,

1. It doesn't alienate the Tau players who have bought, based and converted 12 man squads over the last decade plus, and
2. It means newbs will be tempted to buy more boxes, heaven forefend GW might consider this 'A Good Thing'

What's the case against 12 man teams?



Oh and grow up.

Make me.

(You're much funnier on TV btw.)

Kirsten
10-26-2015, 06:48 AM
the new fire warrior set comes with everything you need to make 13 fire warriors other than bases and torsos. so if you are desperate to make an extra couple, you can do it quite easily.

Cutter
10-26-2015, 06:53 AM
the new fire warrior set comes with everything you need to make 13 fire warriors other than bases and torsos. so if you are desperate to make an extra couple, you can do it quite easily.

Now that is good to know.

I have 4 teams from the good old days, so I'm not exactly in the market, but ta.

It's too long ago to remember the particulars, but I do recall having enough spare bitz from my original Tau enthusiasm to covert an embedded journalist with fuzzy ball mic, a cameraman and a bodyguard standing drinking a beer.

I guess these days I'd use them as objective makers.

Kirsten
10-26-2015, 07:00 AM
the sprues are jam packed, ten strike team helmets, ten breacher, ten pulse rifles, ten carbines, ten blasters, three or four bare heads, twenty shoulder pads...

Cutter
10-26-2015, 07:02 AM
You almost make it sound tempting...

But no, I will remain strong.

Kirsten
10-26-2015, 07:03 AM
well I bought three boxes of the new fire warriors, and if I went online and bought ten more fire warrior or pathfinder torsos, I would have enough bits left over from the three boxes to make another squad of ten. if you bought one new box you could add a nice sprinkling of bits to old fire warriors too.

Cutter
10-26-2015, 07:24 AM
well I bought three boxes of the new fire warriors, and if I went online and bought ten more fire warrior or pathfinder torsos, I would have enough bits left over from the three boxes to make another squad of ten. if you bought one new box you could add a nice sprinkling of bits to old fire warriors too.

Get thee behind me santa...

Kirsten
10-26-2015, 07:25 AM
ho ho no.

Mr Mystery
10-26-2015, 07:26 AM
Pathfinder kit looks to be fully compatible - so if you want 10 Breachers and 10 Firewarriors, no need to shell out £60.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
10-26-2015, 09:07 AM
I think between me, Kirsten and Mystery, actual purchasers of the Fire Warriors, we probably know what we're talking about.

Mr Mystery
10-26-2015, 09:10 AM
I've actually not got any yet. Some sod swiped the stock before I could get to the store.

This week though....this week!

CoffeeGrunt
10-26-2015, 10:19 AM
Have bought, can confirm it's 12 for Strikes, 10 for Breachers. You still only get enough for ten full models in the box, but a tonne of spare bitz, which is nice.

Means my old Strike models can still see play, I simply bought the new box just for the Breachers.

lordunborn
10-27-2015, 11:12 AM
Fire Warrior Strike Squads are still max 12. :)
Those are Breachers on the pic.

Breachers and Pathfinders are Max unit size 10, Striketeam is 12
The real shocker is Crisis Battlesuits are Min 1 max 9.
Makes the crowded Elite slot a little easier to work with.
I am looking at the Codex right now.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
10-27-2015, 12:56 PM
Cool. 9 makes me happy.

Deathboon
11-05-2015, 01:51 PM
Real men run farsight anyway, firewarriors meh... :p