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CoffeeGrunt
08-06-2015, 10:04 AM
Just opening the floor here under the expectation this thread may be closed, because I'm genuinely unsure of the direction this site has been taking lately.

Now, a lot of you have been around way longer than me here. Personally, it's been just over a year, but I lurked for a long time beforehand. Over that time, I've noticed a big shift in the way the news is run. When I started, it seemed to contain a lot of cool hobby articles, some interesting Tactica threads, and the Rumours stuff.

Nowadays, the Hobby articles and Tactica threads seem to have been marginalised, though looking at the amount of comments, that's to be expected. A site goes where its audience is thickest, especially these days. Rumours are all the rage - quite literally - and get a lot of traffic, much more than a simple article on getting a bit of OSL on your Plasma Guns.

However, while I'm okay with Rumours, the quality of these posts has been lacking lately. Some things are very minor, some major, many seemingly deliberate. Typos and incorrect links that could be polished up with a five-second proof-read, like the Total Warhammer Trailer post putting up the wrong video and going unnoticed for days, possibly even still like that. Okay, mistakes happen.

Then we get the Deliberate Controversy articles. These feel like they're designed to stir the toxic mess our community often congeals into. Look! Rhinos on bases! All this does is stir the pot until someone points out the source, a Visions magazine of some random dude's army, and the whole article was then rendered a pointless exercise, except in ad revenue.

And thus we arrive to the word of the title, Clickbait. Clickbait's a bit of a buzzword lately. It refers to the advertising style pioneered by the likes of Buzzfeed, a system designed to pull in masses of customers by slight misdirection.

In a nutshell, the draw is a title that's overly-enthusiastic, with lots of, "MUST SEE," or, "YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE THIS!" It taps into the human curiosity further by actually containing no real information other a controversial fact designed to follow-up the curiosity with indignation. Thus, you click the link, thus, the adverts load, and thus, ad revenue is generated.

Now, recently there was an article put up about New Tyranid Kits, and the comments are pretty telling on how people react to this. Disappointment and a feeling of being a bit ripped off. You see, the new "Kits" being promised were actually just one-click Bundles. The source never claimed they were Kits, and the comments section then opened up with people calling out BoLS on yet another misleading title.

Sadly pretty common lately, but the interesting part was thus. The words, "Bundle," and, "Clickbait," were added to the Naughty Words List. Thus, if someone commented using these words, or calling BoLS out, said comments were immediately removed. Some users were even banned for doing this, my own ban is still timing out potentially indefinitely.

This really doesn't seem like it makes sense, at least to me. Clickbait caused an explosion of money for sites like Buzzfeed, but internet users are adapting and becoming more savvy. The technique isn't as effective as it was, and the more BoLS does this, the lower their reputation will fall. I don't really want this site to fall into the sort of desperate baiting it's already getting towards. It's sad when Facebook groups are a better source of news than a dedicated news site.

I'm mainly saying this as a frequent browser who's noted a downward trend in the quality of this site. Thus, I'm just opening the floor to see if others feel the same way about it, or if I'm just being a whiner.

Again, judging by the swift banning I got for pointing out the banning of words in the Comments, as well as apparently not being the only one, I'm half-expecting this thread to be removed and I get banned as well. That's saddening, when a site's staff simply delete any dissent from their userbase and block them out entirely.

Why, it's almost like the behaviour GW exhibit that many articles have torn into here...

Houghten
08-06-2015, 01:25 PM
A couple of months ago, I got so incredibly fed up with clickbait, onomatopoeia, splitting one rumour into multiple articles, re-posting articles that had already been on the Gamewire and a general failure to use proof-readers that I rage-quit the front page entirely. I'll keep hanging around the Lounge until the atmosphere gets too much like great billowing clouds of toxic acid farts, then I guess it'll be time to make a Facebook account.

Mr Mystery
08-06-2015, 01:31 PM
Pull my finger?

*parp*

CoffeeGrunt
08-06-2015, 04:34 PM
A couple of months ago, I got so incredibly fed up with clickbait, onomatopoeia, splitting one rumour into multiple articles, re-posting articles that had already been on the Gamewire and a general failure to use proof-readers that I rage-quit the front page entirely. I'll keep hanging around the Lounge until the atmosphere gets too much like great billowing clouds of toxic acid farts, then I guess it'll be time to make a Facebook account.

I posted about this to a couple of Facebook groups, and there was a pretty unanimous reply of, "yup, know exactly what you mean, that's why I stopped following it." The community isn't the Imperium, with limitless resources and manpower. That large a portion of it ignoring this site because of all the problems has to be worth addressing, I think...

Ruleslawyer
08-06-2015, 10:57 PM
I did find this article interersting
http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/258985/the-real-problem-with-clickbait/

Though I note the preferred term seems to be "Curiousity Gap"

Mr Mystery
08-06-2015, 10:58 PM
I don't mean to sound dismissive with this, but the front page is content led.

If people ain't writing it, BoLS can't post it :)

CoffeeGrunt
08-07-2015, 08:24 AM
I don't mean to sound dismissive with this, but the front page is content led.

If people ain't writing it, BoLS can't post it :)

That's one thing, banning and censoring complaint is another. Deliberately misleading your readerbase as well is yet another thing... :)


I did find this article interersting
http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/258985/the-real-problem-with-clickbait/

Though I note the preferred term seems to be "Curiousity Gap"

Politicians prefer, "economical with the truth," to, "lying," but I still don't call it how they want me to call it. Marketing people are very good at finding nice ways to use words and make things seem more palatable, it's their profession.

Article raises some fair points, though.

Alaric
08-07-2015, 09:44 AM
Ive said it already on ye Olde frontpage aka hilarity in action, and I must say that the entire Internet is pretty much clickbait nowadays, holding it against BalLs isnt really fair. They are aboot sensationalist "reporting" and thats all really. Yeah they did hobby articles but when it comes to paying the bills, sensationalism wins the day. When goatboy posts a game breaking spam list it generates 300 comments, often within hours.. An osl produces 20..maybe..With a couple showing you that you can make tons of money working from home! Who knew?!?
In the end this is a business for them in some capacity so they go with what works. Sensationalism, its the Murican way after all. Dont hate the sites, hate the interwebz.
Wb btw.

Denzark
08-07-2015, 04:39 PM
Clicckbait not clickbait
Naazi not ****
arse not ***.

Big floppy donkey pizzle.

Sometimes, avoiding the filter is amusing...

CoffeeGrunt
08-08-2015, 04:54 PM
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/tau-titan-battlesuit-new-pics-emerge.html

I'm talking about posts like these. Read the comments and tell me that's not the response of a readerbase that feels cheated.

Erik Setzer
02-01-2016, 01:56 PM
Nah, I'm good. If discussion of BoLS moderation isn't allowed, though, then why is it allowed for other websites? If you're going to remove comments to "keep it on topic" (funny for an "Off Topic" forum thread), then why not remove ones regarding who's been banned from Warseer and why, given that such posts have nothing to do with Warseer being down, which is the announced topic of the thread?

CoffeeGrunt
02-02-2016, 04:16 AM
Because those posts aren't pointing out areas where BoLS itself could improve?

Erik Setzer
02-02-2016, 09:11 AM
Have to admit, I'm a bit miffed at all kinds of comments being removed and the last comment being shuffled to a thread it makes no sense in. It's even more amusing given the context of people bashing Warseer mods for their actions and bragging about number of bans they've achieved. Like someone decided to say, "Here, let's demonstrate for you how that works!"

Only they stopped short of bans... for now. I'd perhaps be concerned about a ban, but eh, if someone wants to censor valid conversation, I can't feel too bad about being unable to comment in that environment for a short time.

CoffeeGrunt
02-02-2016, 09:40 AM
Only they stopped short of bans... for now. I'd perhaps be concerned about a ban, but eh, if someone wants to censor valid conversation, I can't feel too bad about being unable to comment in that environment for a short time.

My two Disqus accounts are still banned six months on, so I'm guessing they're perma-banning. The two threads I made in the area where you ask Admins about it have been quietly deleted a few times now.

Erik Setzer
02-02-2016, 01:17 PM
On the topic of actual "clickbait," the Deadpool movie guys had a fun stab at it with this headline and caption on Facebook:

"He Thought He Was Going in For a Standard Medical Procedure. What Happened Next Will Terrify You…
Be warned. You CANNOT unsee this!"