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Lord-Boofhead
07-26-2015, 08:15 PM
Was told by the dude at my local GW that the Army books will be in stock until the beginning of September then its bye bye. So for those of us sticking with 8th Ed. or just want them for the fluff, get in and grab 'em.

lobster-overlord
07-27-2015, 07:27 AM
Why pay full price for them at GW whenthey're going to be unsupported and prices are dropping like rocks on ebay?

Ben_S
07-27-2015, 11:35 AM
So are they actually still available now then? In store or online?

Filthy Casual
07-27-2015, 11:38 AM
If you ask in store and the shop has them in the back, they're allowed to sell them to you for now, they'll be destroyed (covers torn off etc) at some point in September I believe, but until then you can get them if you ask .

Kirsten
07-27-2015, 11:48 AM
I would consider picking up a few I don't have, like the latest lizardmen book.

Mr Mystery
07-27-2015, 12:43 PM
They're still up on the Apple Store.

I recall a rumour GW can't remove them without people's downloaded copies being deleted automatically? I dunno like, just something I read in a thread.

Filthy Casual
07-27-2015, 12:47 PM
I don't know if it would delete them automatically but if you needed to download it again you couldn't

Erik Setzer
07-30-2015, 05:11 AM
I'll probably get them through the local used book warehouse as people turn them in, or maybe the FLGS that sells used books (has a great copy of the Dark Elves book for $14, but I already got one from a friend getting out).

The sad thing is that all the books that don't sell by their deadline will likely end up having the covers destroyed, and then tossed in a dumpster. They could at least offer them on a clearance area of their website and try to make some money before trashing them.

Wildeybeast
07-30-2015, 07:41 AM
Or even give them away for free if folks pay postage. Or at least recycle them. All far too sensible suggestions to warrant any consideration though.

Erik Setzer
07-30-2015, 07:47 AM
Given away free if folks pay postage is a loss of money for them; destroying the books is not.

Selling them for a discount would let them get back some of the money, and make some players (customers) happy. The only potential hitch is if someone in management thinks that doing so might cause people to not buy into AoS 100% (though the kind of person who'd be swayed by that is already likely not buying AoS products). Also, they might not have a clearance section on their website... which they probably don't want to bother developing because it wouldn't be used that often.

Mr Mystery
07-30-2015, 07:48 AM
Covers are ripped off to prove they're not sold.

Something to do with tax relief or some such - it's not just mindless vandalism.

Yes I know it's a Wiki, but gotta start somewhere. and it does support what I was told somewhere at some point by someone, and I don't think it was GW specifically. Could have been a family member, as we used to be in the print industry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripped_book)

Erik Setzer
07-30-2015, 08:17 AM
I know it's not just being mean-spirited, the destruction of the books is a way to get back some return on unsold products. But it would be better for them and collectors/players if they could find a way to sell them off a reduced price. I'd bet a lot of people would snatch them up at $20. I'd even grab some at $25 (and likely will, since that's probably what the cost will be at Chamblin's). That's almost certainly more than the write-off is, and earns some goodwill, which is also pretty valuable.

Heck, the article you link to even points out that hardcovers are typically sold at a reduced price before they move to destroying them. That's why a lot of bookstore chains have reduced price sections where they have books at a ridiculously low price, i.e. $6-$10 for a normally $50 and up book. If they can still make money, they'll do it. (Also funny, the court case linked to in said article seems to suggest that the practice of destroying books is really just a way to cheat the tax system, because without doing so, they wouldn't be able to write them off, being that they aren't defective and could still sell for more than the price of production.)

The biggest problem, though, is that selling items at a reduced cost, even as clearance, would contradict with the message of "premium" products that demand "premium" pricing. The image clashes with what they want people to think of them as, so they can't sell off products at reduced price to make back money. I'm not sure how they're getting around the cost of such an idea, unless it's just so cheap to produce things that they feel they can eat that loss. That's pretty much what they do with White Dwarf and Visions, where you can find unsold copies tossed unceremoniously into a dumpster at your local Games Workshop, no attempts to tear covers off or anything. It's seriously so cheap to print them that throwing them away doesn't set back the profits.

Mr Mystery
07-30-2015, 08:30 AM
Trouble with the link is that it's US law, where GW of course would be UK. Just there as a general pointer!

Erik Setzer
07-30-2015, 08:35 AM
Yeah, but I'd think the UK would be less okay with cheeky attempts to skirt the tax laws.

God knows, when I try playing the UK in Democracy 3, I can never find enough funding to do all the programs people want. :-P

Wildeybeast
07-31-2015, 10:50 AM
Still seems like a waste to me. Like all the food that gets chucked out by supermarkets because it has passed its best before. They can't sell it, but if starving folk take it from the bins, it's stealing. Go figure.

Path Walker
07-31-2015, 11:49 AM
Almost every business out there destroys old stock rather that reduce the price and flog it, when its food and there are starving people out there, its one thing. Books for a silly game, its just another of those weird things that happens when you have capitalism.

Circadius
08-02-2015, 12:55 PM
Still on the fence about this as I have only now started getting into Fantasy. I have a box of Warriors of Chaos Battalion unassembled and could go either way. Very tempted to get the hardback 8th edition codex just in case.

scott_alter
08-12-2015, 02:48 PM
GW have never 'deleted' a book...like ver 5 with 40k, or 6th fantasy. Whyare GW just 'forgetting' about fantasy?