Fallout 4

[eldargal]

It's happening:
http://fallout.bethsoft.com/

[odinsgrandson]

Cool.

I've really been wanting a Fallout that played as smoothly as Skyrim.

[Kirsten]

I think Fallrim 4 is basically what everybody wants

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My body is ready

[Wolfshade]

I have been so exicted for this :)

[Kirsten]

I can't wait to see what sort of bugs they come up with this time :p

[CoffeeGrunt]

I'm hoping Harry Partridge does a song for this one as well, so I can sing it endlessly until the release. :P

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/190a2e813819a46e9a6a54b2188e4f52/tumblr_npc6lgDSm31sbw56no1_1280.png

[Kirsten]

honestly I would be down with a Fallout 3 HD re-release.

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/b49ec12f6c84f23ced7fc41642193ae1/tumblr_npc3fmAelw1rb5arpo1_1280.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

The old ones are already on GOG aren't they?

While I'm excited for it, I'll probably wait for the GOTY edition or at least till it's sub £20. They might have patched it by then as well.

[Kirsten]

I will get it on launch and revel in its' unfinished-ness :p

it isn't fallout if you can't watch an irradiated bear suddenly launch 60 feet in to the air when you shoot it with a handgun. or if people's heads don't rotate slowly while they talk to you.

[Psychosplodge]

I hope they've at least fixed the spawn rate of those flying things.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Inb4 a Wild Wasteland-esque Perk that swaps every NPC or enemy out for five Cazadors.

They could call it the, "Cazador Carnival."

[Psychosplodge]

*shudders*

[Psychosplodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnn2rJpjar4

[Gotthammer]

It's heeeerrrrrrrreeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Psychosplodge]

http://i.imgur.com/E9snCl5.jpg?1

[eldargal]

Well that was arousing.

[Gotthammer]

I'm hoping we get to spend some time in the pre-war setting and it's not just for the promo. But really digging it.

Also another east coast game, looks to be set in Massachusetts - can briefly see Charlestown's Bunker Hill monument. Also interesting seeing the airship as they were first mentioned in Fallout: Tactics as how the BoS got to the Atlantic.

[eldargal]

They have cryogenics in FO3, could be a cryo vault? Like you start off pre-war then end up in a vault and wake up two centuries later?

Yay more Brotherhood of Steel, I like them.

[Psychosplodge]

Ah, I was wondering where it was.

I wonder if both factions of BoS will feature?

[Gotthammer]

Ooh that'd be awesome - hopefully if so option to use outdated slang (What the flame-o is going on?!).

Tactics is sort of in a limbo about how canon it is so just a possibility, but the BoS have appeared in every game so they'll be around I'm sure :)

[Psychosplodge]

Armchair analysts have declared it the existing engine.

[eldargal]

Armchair analysts have declared it the existing engine.

Seriously? It's like pre-alpha footage if its in engine at all lol.

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Ooh that'd be awesome - hopefully if so option to use outdated slang (What the flame-o is going on?!).

Tactics is sort of in a limbo about how canon it is so just a possibility, but the BoS have appeared in every game so they'll be around I'm sure :)

Also if it is voiced, and as the protagonist speaks it might be, it would certainly add to the pathos waking up and finding all the things well ded.

Hope so, I approve of power armoured women smashing **** up. Sentinel Lyons ftw.

[Psychosplodge]

/pcmr thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/38d8a8/fallout_4_announcement_megathread/)

As I said armchair analysts :D

[eldargal]

I'm all for speculating about stuff but that's taking it a bit far. I r excite, don't even mind Bethesda bugs 'cos they are hilarious and modders always fix them if Bethesda don't. Hope there is some fancy collectors edition with in-game lore items for me to pre-order.:p

[Psychosplodge]

The usual vault boy bobblehead :D

[Gotthammer]

See everyone always talks about crazy Bethesda bugs and posts videos and stuff but I've never had it happen. Not sure if I'm pleased or disappointed by that... :p

Also:


list of characters that should return in fallout 4:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/8176c8b88266ab01a7b5b78074f843c6/tumblr_inline_npbwjzzMYi1r25ej3_540.png

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im so glad the protagonist of fallout 4 is a dog

https://40.media.tumblr.com/ff914edadbaa3d093dba17cd0c2d8a71/tumblr_inline_npdi188dDQ1s7wp7o_540.png

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The collector's edition of New Vegas was really good.

[Psychosplodge]

With the NCR Ranger bust?

Look at this (http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/rumors/fallout-4-headed-boston-rumors-mit/) from 2012

[eldargal]

I had a few in Skyrim, none in Fallout.:)

Yes Fisto needs to return!

Lol.:p

I just looked it up, I want a replica platinum chip now.>< Except in platinum.

[Psychosplodge]

There'll be a fallout/cheers crossover tankard

[Gotthammer]

Yeah I had the set with the chips, platinum chip, deck of cards and such.

Fisto II: Fist harder >_>

[CoffeeGrunt]

I feel the hype overtaking me...it is a good pain!

[eldargal]

Yeah I had the set with the chips, platinum chip, deck of cards and such.

Fisto II: Fist harder >_>

Fisto III: Revenge of the Fist

[Gotthammer]

Fisto IV: A New Hole
Fisto V: The Enclave Fists Back
Fisto VI: Return of the Jelly

But the real question is will they bring back any of the original stars for 7, 8 & 9? :p

[Wolfshade]

But the real question is will they bring back any of the original stars for 7, 8 & 9? :p

No fisto would be a disney princess then....

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

And what is wrong with Disney Princesses?

[Paintingplasticcrack]

The fallout series of games are easily my favorite RPGs. Even the top down games of old had a great story, fantastic setting and brilliant characters. I am super stoked this is finally happening. The intro looks great. Just hope it's out this year.

[Gotthammer]

No fisto would be a disney princess then....

Not the princess we need, but the princess we deserve.

[Psychosplodge]

The fallout series of games are easily my favorite RPGs. Even the top down games of old had a great story, fantastic setting and brilliant characters. I am super stoked this is finally happening. The intro looks great. Just hope it's out this year.

probably in time for xmas I'd imagine.

[Kirsten]

the Bethesda online store said TBA 2015 yesterday.

[Psychosplodge]

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Fallout, Fallout never changes

[Kirsten]

and quite right too. if it is good enough for Ron Perlman it is good enough for me.

[Psychosplodge]

I wonder what the rest of the fallout world is like?

Next one Fallout:London :D

Entirely new factions... or the BoS expeditionary force

[CoffeeGrunt]

I'd love to see a British Fallout some day. It's implied that Britain is somehow worse off than America is, despite not actually getting hit by many of the bombs. (Europe is annihilated for the most part, so the radioactive winds and social collapse would make for a great setting, plus 1950s British sci-fi would be interesting to explore.)

I've noticed the trailer comments are choked with people ripping on the graphical fidelity for this game, though. They look fine to me, and I'd take a less-polished game with solid story over a game like Evolve or Order 1886 any day.

[Psychosplodge]

I don't remember seeing much about the RoW outside russia and china being mentioned as the otherside.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I don't remember seeing much about the RoW outside russia and china being mentioned as the otherside.

Tenpenny talks briefly about Britain, and there's snippets of lore about Europe falling into Resources Wars with the Middle East. It's actually what started the war that ended everything, apparently, and it ended in the Middle East and Europe being left as ruins.

Resource Wars Wiki (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars)


A pre-Fallout "Resource Wars" game set in collapsing Europe (during the United Kingdom's invasions of the Middle East) is one of the games that J.E. Sawyer would like to make if he could do any game, regardless of money and developing time.

Oh would I love to see that setting. I can imagine the UK being very imperialistic in Fallout's alternate timeline.

[Psychosplodge]

That would be awesome. I just killed Tenpenny iirc so must have missed that.

[eldargal]

Bethesda buys the rights to Mad Max = Fallout: Australia.:p

[Psychosplodge]

Probably banned from sale there though.

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/4567afbbf23810616b25c0cd2945847e/tumblr_npdxruPa3I1qeg0gwo1_500.png

[Kirsten]

yup, they look like gal pals alright.

[Psychosplodge]

gap pals

Interesting euphemism

[Erik Setzer]

Bethesda buys the rights to Mad Max = Fallout: Australia.:p

Wouldn't Fallout: Australia be a less dangerous place than current Australia?

[eldargal]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/4567afbbf23810616b25c0cd2945847e/tumblr_npdxruPa3I1qeg0gwo1_500.png

Nice.

[Psychosplodge]

http://i.imgur.com/8VomfVA.jpg

[CoffeeGrunt]

Now I have a deadline for my new PC...

[Psychosplodge]

Assuming its not photoshopped of course.

[Mr Mystery]

Might actually pick this one up.

See what all the fuss is about.

[Kirsten]

you should, they are great

[Erik Setzer]

Steam is having a sale this weekend, $12 each for the Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas collection packs (whatever they call them... one's GOTY edition, I think?). Pretty sure the sale would be worldwide and equivalent in local currency. For games that offer dozens of hours of play, that's not bad.

Even better, Bethesda's really great with the mod community, and you can download a lot of add-ons for the Fallout games just like the Elder Scrolls games, which can add more play value and options without spending anything extra.

[Psychosplodge]

Fallout three has a big warning on saying its not designed for windows 7, but there are threads telling you how to patch it, but it still sounds unstable. GOTY is on at £7.99 I think.

Don't forget the steam summer sale is coming soon, I'd imagine it'll be cheaper then.

[Kirsten]

3 wont work on my PC, I tried all the recommendations about patching etc. and unfortunately it still wont play. New Vegas works.

[eldargal]

3 wont work on my PC, I tried all the recommendations about patching etc. and unfortunately it still wont play. New Vegas works.

Try the mod Tale of Two Wastelands, you need FO3 but it turns it into a mod for New Vegas so you play it with updated graphics and skills and such

[Kirsten]

good thinking batman, I will try that, been in the mood for 3 again.

[eldargal]

Use Fallout Mod Manager to install it, it makes it much more stable. also easier.

https://taleoftwowastelands.com/

[Kirsten]

yeah I think I have that already? I have some mod manager anyway, pretty sure it is that one.

[eldargal]

FOMM is bestest, but any will do.:)

[Kirsten]

yeah I think I have a FOMM

[eldargal]

You might need to update it to latest version or it won't work, its all in the TTW instructions.

[Erik Setzer]

I saw the warning... might be an issue for me with Win7, too, I suppose. I might try the suggested idea, then.

Or I could just play it on my XBox 360, without paying any extra for it, since I already have it. That probably makes more sense. I just like the graphics on my PC, the ability to add mods, all that jazz, and I have an XBox controller for the PC anyway, so playing games that were designed for console style controls (like Skyrim, Dragon Age: Inquisition, etc.) is pretty easy.

If you're not married to your mouse and keyboard, I definitely recommend dropping a bit of cash for a controller for the PC if you don't already have one. Really helps for playing certain games.

[Psychosplodge]

Gott, Dab, any other ozzys. Apparently this (http://www.ozgameshop.com/pc-games/fallout-4-pc-game) is a lot cheaper than steam

[Kirsten]

aside from adding in more content (Fallout feels incredibly plain and empty compared to Skyrim) they really need to sort the radio. It was poor in 3, but by the time New Vegas came out we had a number of other games that had put masses of effort in to their radio channels, compared to Fallout's four songs per station on loop...

I'd like to see them make the stations more realistic, certain DJs on certain times of the day, and many, many more songs.

[Wolfshade]

Urgh that was terrible.

I think i had a mod that used my mp3 files

[Psychosplodge]

I ended up just turning the radio off. While there was a lot of walking, the number of places to discover in 3 was amazing at the time. I actually broke the main quest cause I just went exploring and ended up in tranquility lane before I'd done any other story after escaping the vault.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I ended up just turning the radio off. While there was a lot of walking, the number of places to discover in 3 was amazing at the time. I actually broke the main quest cause I just went exploring and ended up in tranquility lane before I'd done any other story after escaping the vault.

Helps that the soundtrack was pretty well done, IMO. Wonder who they've got doing this one.

[Psychosplodge]

Oh it was certainly entertaining at first, but for a 100hour plus game how much butcher pete beating his meat, and setting the world on fire can you take?

[Kirsten]

the woman with the violin channel was the best, didn't sound repetitive, and was awesome drifting across the arid wasteland...

[Psychosplodge]

I hope they do build in mp3 functionality though.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Oh it was certainly entertaining at first, but for a 100hour plus game how much butcher pete beating his meat, and setting the world on fire can you take?

Oh, I meant the ambient music by Inon Zur. Fitted the wasteland beautifully IMO.

[eldargal]

Fallout 4 first look (www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/15/e3-2015-fallout-4s-first-gameplay-and-story-details)

Fallout 4 collectors editions with real pip-boy (www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/15/e3-2015-fallout-4-collectors-edition-includes-real-pip-boy)

Fallout 4 new crafting system with base construction (www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/15/e3-2015-fallout-4-introduces-new-crafting-system)

*excitd flails*

[Psychosplodge]

The one with the pip boy appears to be US only at this point?

[Psychosplodge]

Both Fallout 4 and Dishonored 2 will feature playable female characters.


Is Fallout 4 featuring a female character really news? You've been able to that since at least three. It's been so long since I played the earlier ones I can't remember the character creation. It's almost erasing that though as the implication is its a new thing.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Yeah, Bethesda have had female characters for as long as I remember. Can't deny the hype for this game, though, especially the ability to build your own towns!

[Psychosplodge]

Base building is always fun :D

It almost sounds like IGN have never played a fallout game before either :rolleyes:

[Kirsten]

IGN was leading with 'Fallout 4 brings back the Vats mechanic' which is pretty silly as it hadn't gone anywhere.

[CoffeeGrunt]

This is why I never bother with IGN these days.

[Kirsten]

I use it a lot, pretty handy for collecting news in one place.

[Psychosplodge]

Hopefully TB or Jessecox or someone will do a video on it, assuming they're at E3.

[Kirsten]

I might even be able to finish The Witcher 3 by the time Fallout 4 comes out :p

[Psychosplodge]

It's only 150 hours isn't it?

[Kirsten]

up to 200

[Psychosplodge]

So six hours a night, plus a good solid fourteen hours a day minimum at weekend and you're laughing.

[Kirsten]

I am spacing it out a bit, making the most of the time. I love the series, so I don't want to finish too quickly.

[Gotthammer]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/1e5d057a989fabd497ec415bf18edc02/tumblr_npyx03hgPC1r83wgso1_1280.jpg

http://36.media.tumblr.com/83f2e4960d8f92644c19ee4cd31a7255/tumblr_npyw6pgu5n1r3rdh2o1_1280.jpg

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http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/862/065/0e9.jpg

[Kirsten]

that game needs to come on android as well

[Erik Setzer]

IGN was leading with 'Fallout 4 brings back the Vats mechanic' which is pretty silly as it hadn't gone anywhere.

I saw some people suggesting it would be gone from Fallout 4, so they might have worded it that way to knock off those rumors.

[Kirsten]

Fallout 4 set in present day Carlisle

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/fallout-4-set-in-present-day-carlisle-2015061699294

[Psychosplodge]

Seems legit

[Kirsten]

could be anywhere round there really :p

[Psychosplodge]

Some people will try anything.

(http://imgur.com/gallery/tYZPO)

[eldargal]

Lol, nice.

[eldargal]

Pre-orders are up at Game.

[Psychosplodge]

They keep taking pre-orders they can't fulfil.

[Kirsten]

When has that happened?

[Psychosplodge]

In the last six months two separate friends have both been ****ed over by them for special editions.

Actually it might have been before christmas, I know one is still complaining about it, and the other got the equivalent of a shrug from game customer services.

I certainly wouldn't pre-order anything with them.

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[CoffeeGrunt]

Haha, it's a pretty accurate assessment of how the video made me feel, at least.

[Psychosplodge]

https://41.media.tumblr.com/6dd9760709947b0b4be3b2a1bfaf9328/tumblr_nq21bvJeOr1rqvvxno1_540.jpg

This picture has made me realise they've dumbed the speech down to four options because it's apparently too difficult for console gamers to scroll down.

[CoffeeGrunt]

*Contemplates posting some Fallout Equestria artwork with dead ponies.* :P

[Psychosplodge]

Still not read that.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Me neither, never will. :P

[Psychosplodge]

I might if I run out of books.

[Erik Setzer]

This picture has made me realise they've dumbed the speech down to four options because it's apparently too difficult for console gamers to scroll down.

Mass Effect and Dragon Age were able to handle up to 6 (maybe more, don't recall)... And trying to map those options to the four keys suddenly is really silly. You're limiting yourself just to make a system that will feel clunky on a gamepad, and will probably not be that fun to use with a mouse and keyboard. Seems like a bad design decision.

[CoffeeGrunt]

They'll probably have a, "find out more," option so you can branch the discussion into other topics. Remains to be seen, but I'm hopeful. :)

[Erik Setzer]

Hope so. I'd hate to see it oversimplified just for controller user, when controllers worked fine with the system we already had. I use an XBox 360 controller to play Fallout and Elder Scrolls on my computer, too, and have no problems with scrolling for conversation options.

[Psychosplodge]

I played 3 on console and managed to scroll fine, this just seems silly.

[Gotthammer]

QuakeCon 2015 attendees were privy to an exclusive presentation of Fallout 4 this afternoon, and Bethesda Studios head Todd Howard took the opportunity to share some important new details about the game.

First up is the news that Fallout 4 will include 12 companions who can join you on your journey. You can even romance them, regardless of their gender.

In addition, Howard discussed the naming of your character, and proclaimed that they've selected over 1,000 names that include both common real names as well as names that Bethesda believes its player may use, even in jest. By way of example, Howard proclaims that if you want to call your character F-ckface, that option is available to you, and the game will use that name in dialogue and conversations.

We also learned that Fallout Shelter is no longer an iOS exclusive -- it's on the way to Android as well on August 13.

via (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/07/24/new-fallout-4-details-emerge-from-quakecon.aspx?utm_content=buffer35141&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

[Kirsten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb8DoNbmaY8

the actual video on the Fallout facebook page is much better quality but this is the only one I could find to embed.

combat looks much better to me. Nothing wrong with the shooting previously, but in any FPS RPG it can be a little grind-y as you chip away numbers. this looks to me more fluid, and more like non-rpg shooters, bit faster paced. lots of little details making a big impact.

[eldargal]

via (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/07/24/new-fallout-4-details-emerge-from-quakecon.aspx?utm_content=buffer35141&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

Sounds good.

[Gotthammer]

the actual video on the Fallout facebook page is much better quality but this is the only one I could find to embed.

combat looks much better to me. Nothing wrong with the shooting previously, but in any FPS RPG it can be a little grind-y as you chip away numbers. this looks to me more fluid, and more like non-rpg shooters, bit faster paced. lots of little details making a big impact.

It looks so good, I just hope it's not too combat focussed. Not that I have much justification to base that on, just love Fallout as an RPG series. That said looks like going to be so much fun. I mean power armour with a jet pack - what's not to love?!

Some other bits:


Dogmeat can be given commands such as retrieving objects for the player. He can also loot enemies & is unkillable.
The leveling system has been reorganized so that perks are tied to SPECIAL stats instead of levels. Having a high SPECIAL stat will provide players access to advanced perks from the start.
Terminal hacking and Lockpicking mini-games will make a return.
Codsworth, the Mr. Handy robot, is voiced by Stephen Russel. He provided the voice of Garret in the original Thief game.


Also a pondering - if all the companions are romanceable is Codsworth? After all this is the series that gave us this:

http://36.media.tumblr.com/916e920ebb0d485e898c5b0d617076d7/tumblr_inline_ns0dlwob811r25ej3_500.png

[eldargal]

I read somewhere that only human companions will be romancable so possibly no vibro-Codsworth.:(

[Gotthammer]

I'm sure there'll be a day one mod for it :p

[eldargal]

It's inevitable yep.:p

[CoffeeGrunt]

I am totally going to be playing as F*ckface, Saint of the Wastes. I am honestly immature enough to not get tired of that in dialogue. :D

[Psychosplodge]

combat looks much better to me. Nothing wrong with the shooting previously, but in any FPS RPG it can be a little grind-y as you chip away numbers. this looks to me more fluid, and more like non-rpg shooters, bit faster paced. lots of little details making a big impact.

****. We're having nasty big looking insects.
and death claws crawling out the sewers. **** **** ****.
on the overhand ****ing jumppacks! :D

[Kirsten]

whoooooosh

[eldargal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkodJy96jHw

[Gotthammer]

Interesting that they completely skipped over the Master and the super mutant army (and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel lol), but a good summary of the history. And only a month to go woo!

[Psychosplodge]

I'm still conflicted. I never really buy myself brand new games (except pokemon) But I really want this one and don't think I'll be able to wait till the steam sale GOTY edition.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I need to build a new PC pretty soon to get in on this, as well as XCOM 2, Mankind Divided and the other awesome games coming up soon. Any advice on where to go in the UK for decent, pre-built gaming PCs? I'm not too fussed about building it myself.

[Psychosplodge]

NO NO NO.

Building a PC is literally like lego these days, especially with the help of youtube, anyone even vaguely competent can manage it, it just might take you a bit longer.

Plus prebuilts are overpriced and usually have weird hardware combinations that'd you'd want to adjust anyway, and custom orders are stupidly expensive when compared to building the same yourself.

seriously consider your budget then compare all three options and the spec you'd get for each. Most prebuilds will jack up the price by putting an i7 in, that while nice, for what you want you'd probably be perfectly happy with a cheaper i5.

[eldargal]

I don't make them myself, I have a brother for that, but it is much cheaper and better, you can research the bits you want and there are websites which will tell you what bits you should get if you want to play certain games at, say Ultra or whatever.

[Psychosplodge]

When I built mine a couple of years ago now it would have been about £800 more for the custom build, and that still wouldn't have been exactly what I wanted just the closest spec I could get it to.

[Kirsten]

you need to consider warranties though if anything goes wrong.

[Psychosplodge]

That's even better though, as you don't lose your whole machine for a faulty part.

And if you have issues shame them on public media and they soon sort it apparently.

[eldargal]

Unless you're overclocking it and whatnot you shouldn't stuff up to the point you would destroy the computer.

[Kirsten]

swapping individual parts for physical problems is ok, but that isn't everything.

my computer developed a major windows fault, left the whole thing virtually inoperable. as soon as tech support find out you built it yourself, that is the end of any help.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I was debating building it myself, but the main issue I have is that I don't know what a good computer is anymore. I.e., what spec I should build it to. I built my recently deceased PC back '07, for example.

[Psychosplodge]

swapping individual parts for physical problems is ok, but that isn't everything.

my computer developed a major windows fault, left the whole thing virtually inoperable. as soon as tech support find out you built it yourself, that is the end of any help.

That sounds unfortunate, personnally after the **** service from PCworld with the first ever PC I bought I've been determined to never deal with tech support again.

[Kirsten]

I will probably have a go at building my next one on my own. No part of my current one is worth keeping, so wont bother upgrading. Probably some time next year

[Aegwymourn]

I will say a lot depends on who you order your computer through. I would never get a premade one (such as dell/hp/etc).

I am lucky enough that LU computers operates here in Canada. If you haven't see it they will literally build any PC with whatever parts you choose. Their customization portal is super awesome (pick exactly which part you want for each step). They put it all together and if you get an OS at the time of sale with install it for you. They also ask if there are any questions (for example, got two HD for my new computer a smaller SSD and a regular, they rang me up and asked where I wanted my OS installed to).

For the cost of doing it myself it wasn't much more and the warranty is nice. I'm less worried about something being faulty, and more worried about accidentally wrecking something when I go to install it.

[Psychosplodge]

so pretty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmQykfLolmE

[eldargal]

Fallout 4 live action trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3IlHBBGCIw

[Psychosplodge]

:eek:

[Psychosplodge]

http://i.imgur.com/9WAb51H.jpg?1

[Kirsten]

lol

[Psychosplodge]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSPfLo8WcAA-YQh.jpg

[eldargal]

Character build guide that talkes about the changes to the SPECIAL system and perks and so forth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytlmGUQ-qQ

[Psychosplodge]

Has anyone heard if the delay till december is true or not? Seen a couple of things today and look clickbaity to me so not clicked them.

[eldargal]

Bethesda twitter says November 10th still and that's where they try and give updates and such.

[Gotthammer]

No news sites are talking about it and saw something about a virus link purporting to be FO4 news so probably that. Also Bethesda said recently that all platforms will have pre-loading so doubt they'd say that if there was a delay.

Also going to the midnight opening to pick it up :cool:

[Psychosplodge]

Aye, thought it looked sketchy when I'd not seen owt anywhere else.

[Kirsten]

Unlikely, the game has already gone gold

[eldargal]

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/noUffgex0jiRctYZ790xa_E-Ls4=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4215173/IMG_8980.0.jpg
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JLlAurNZYjw1xHAlpZhsw-bDbFE=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4215165/IMG_8987.0.jpg
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/i7yLy3SfFCXPsaep_zb1tby6fdE=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4215155/IMG_8997.0.jpg
Heaps more photos (http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/30/9646300/fallout-4-pipboy-edition-unboxing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRHjy-0HKaQ
http://36.media.tumblr.com/45a390bf160c11ef950846621d2b3486/tumblr_inline_nwxxtxPAzN1rycs23_540.jpg

[Erik Setzer]

Wish I'd ordered one of those (but didn't have the money at the time). Got a Fallout-themed Airsoft event (basically like a huge LARP event), and having a PipBoy to wear would have been nice. Also, it just looks darned cool!

[Gotthammer]

The video's gone now but the character creator has body type sliders in the same style as Saints Row. So excited

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Fantastic - having all the NPCs in the land have the exact same bodies (even if you're a lizard) was pretty uncanny in Oblivion/Skyrim/Fallout 3/NV.

[eldargal]

The video's gone now but the character creator has body type sliders in the same style as Saints Row. So excited

Nice.

[Kirsten]

wont be picking my copy up on launch owing to Heresy, will have to wait until the following Friday when I am paid again. Friday the 13th

[Arkhan Land]

same, trying to buy a house/fix girlfriends car will also push my falling out back, ill tackle my gameworthy computer after that. very excited though just finished playing through wasteland and 1, gonna do 2 then three to get myself ready

[Kirsten]

I have played a bit of wasteland 2 but not really got in to it. not quite as XCOM as I would have liked

[Gotthammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5aJfebzkrM

[eldargal]

Oooh very nice. Good that they had voice over and footage of male and female Survivors too.

[Gotthammer]

Yup, so good they did that.


https://41.media.tumblr.com/be7d7b122f1adc8bd280ea48c2f26605/tumblr_nxcyhliEIC1typl03o1_1280.png

[eldargal]

Sounds like a Bioware game.:p

[Gotthammer]

Totes :p so excited for this game :)

[eldargal]

Me too.:)

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/374191531103fb3953fef7f415e1f28a/tumblr_nxcmr7Ew4P1s648fmo1_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/8e7c754c78df9c48f6ebe3bcce9fdba0/tumblr_nxfgon6HRe1udwpmuo1_500.jpg

[eldargal]

Can't wait until we get a Catmeat mod.:p

[Gotthammer]

https://36.media.tumblr.com/312f5abaf745b7b512485baab3db8829/tumblr_nxaldyqXCA1r7ggnqo1_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Lol.:p

Also some video game website tweeted (I think) that their FO4 reviewer couldn't stop playing it even if he tried and then deleted it, so hopefully a good sign.

[Gotthammer]

Excellent :)

[Psychosplodge]

I'm bitter about not getting a pipboy version.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I can't even play the game on release, gotta either get a console, or get me a new PC. :(

[Psychosplodge]

By the time you build your pc over several months the mods will be out though :)

[CoffeeGrunt]

Eyyup. That'll be a next year project, given that Christmas Is Coming.

[Psychosplodge]

Not the C word :eek:

[eldargal]

I'm bitter about not getting a pipboy version.

I'll let you know if its any good.

[Psychosplodge]

Aye assuming game deliver it you. I'd have probably got one if I could have ordered from amazon. Game have ****ed so many pre-orders up amongst my immediate friend group I wouldn't contemplate pre-ordering with them.

[eldargal]

I got shipping notification fortunately, but yep I wish there were better alternatives.

[Psychosplodge]

From tumblr (http://insane-pinkie-pie.tumblr.com/post/132823129388/do-gaming-journalists-even-bother-to-do-research)

https://41.media.tumblr.com/2650036ca7cfcd40862ddcc19c011edf/tumblr_nxilohqNdS1sy38w2o1_540.jpg

please tell me its photoshopped?

[eldargal]

Well knowing what you're talking about has never been a qualification for being a video games journalist lol. I've seen that quote from Courtenay Taylor in an article that wasn't talking about gendered protagonists so I don't think she is responding directly to that.

[Psychosplodge]

Surely it would have made more sense not to include it though if you weren't a 100% sure? I mean five mins with google or youtube could have helped.

[Kirsten]

that not how journalists work

[Psychosplodge]

lols

[Path Walker]

Blowing a throwaway line about the launch party by some guy who has to write tons of tiny stories without really knowing much about the subject (to a no doubt tight deadline) into a big hoo ha, probably to make some sort of asinine point about women in games as it seems to have originally come from Reddit.

Does it really matter that some underpaid staff writer for an entertainment website (not a gaming website) made a little error writing about something he probably doesn't care about?

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/9774d18111b0bab78362f71d44c89f46/tumblr_nxjv89m4iO1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/7ea9e7e7424c33adc61dec41d521a4c2/tumblr_nodf15NL7a1t4dccno1_500.gif

[Psychosplodge]

Idk, I suppose it depends on the intended audience. I mean if its a gaming publication I'd assume most people would react with a meh lazy idiot, doesn't have a clue, if its something with a non gaming audience it paints a rather negative image of a fairly progressive series?

tbh my initial reaction was "they've clearly never played fallout".

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https://40.media.tumblr.com/9774d18111b0bab78362f71d44c89f46/tumblr_nxjv89m4iO1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/7ea9e7e7424c33adc61dec41d521a4c2/tumblr_nodf15NL7a1t4dccno1_500.gif

omg so pretty, wants...

[eldargal]

Blowing a throwaway line about the launch party by some guy who has to write tons of tiny stories without really knowing much about the subject (to a no doubt tight deadline) into a big hoo ha, probably to make some sort of asinine point about women in games as it seems to have originally come from Reddit.

Does it really matter that some underpaid staff writer for an entertainment website (not a gaming website) made a little error writing about something he probably doesn't care about?

It doesn't matter no, its just a bit silly. It would be better if Fallout were getting praise for consistently including female protagonists instead of making it sound like they have just started doing it.


https://40.media.tumblr.com/9774d18111b0bab78362f71d44c89f46/tumblr_nxjv89m4iO1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/7ea9e7e7424c33adc61dec41d521a4c2/tumblr_nodf15NL7a1t4dccno1_500.gif

Totes jelly.

[CoffeeGrunt]

The rumour they were removing female protagonists was just silly. Bethesda have had them for decades, Fallout's had them for decades. I like how they even mentioned it in the E3 Demo as a sort of throwaway comment. "And of course you can play as a female."

[Path Walker]

I think its fair for the guy to assume that the previous games haven't been particularly equal, given that if he only has a passing knowledge of gaming its to be expected!

[Psychosplodge]

So does the steam version unlock at 00:01 GMT? or do we have to wait for some other arbitrary point of tomorrow? Wouldn't mind doing character creation before bed.

[Kirsten]

I can't get it until Friday so I don't care :p

[Psychosplodge]

I wasn't even going to bother till it hit a steam sale or something, and exercise patience, but then I realised as the SO will be playing the PS4 version, I'd eventually cave and buy it, so just bought it instead.

[eldargal]

First reviews are coming in, very positive in general, some glitches and bugs but its a Bethesda game so lol.

[Psychosplodge]

Good, not the bugs, but I was worried with the hype.

[Gotthammer]

Is very good so far :)

[eldargal]

Polygon opened with a paragraph which basically amounted to 'it has a few small problems and the only reason I'm telling you is to get to the good stuff and the onl reason I'm not playing right now is because I have to write this review' lol.

[Psychosplodge]

What about an actual games publication?

[eldargal]

Such as lol? They are all just as bad as each other.

[Psychosplodge]

Is very good so far :)

:D
Is it tomorrow there, or did you get it early or both?

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Such as lol? They are all just as bad as each other.


Idk, but some are more clickbaity than others :D

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I wonder if the lets players have much up yet?

[Kirsten]

I find the whole Let's Play scene really weird.

[Psychosplodge]

It depends what it is and how they do it.
When I used to have the bandwidth at work it could be decent background noise, certainly better than the bloody radio. And apparently playing my own music at the same level as the radio is too loud :(

[Kirsten]

I just don't really see the point in watching somebody else play something.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I do it a bit, to see what games are like. That said, most reviews cover that nicely. Watching someone play an entire game sounds dull as heck, though. Especially someone like PewdiePie.

[Kirsten]

IGN have started this year doing things like 'the first 26 minutes of x' or 'the first hour of' or whatever they have time for or the developers let them show, I don't want to see the start of the game, I want to play it myself and be surprised.

[Kirsten]

interesting thing about the Pipboy pre-orders with Game, apparently it is down to people's payments being declined

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/11/06/there-are-evidently-some-problems-with-game-fallout-4-pre-orders

[Path Walker]

What about an actual games publication?

Polygon and RPS are the only decent game sites.

[Psychosplodge]

interesting thing about the Pipboy pre-orders with Game, apparently it is down to people's payments being declined

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/11/06/there-are-evidently-some-problems-with-game-fallout-4-pre-orders

That was called out as BS last week on their fb feed thursday/friday? whatever day the problem started cropping up by people saying their banks said game had never tried to take the payment.

[Psychosplodge]

Well I escaped the vault. Then looked at the time :eek:

Don't think I like the speech system. VATS in slow motion not freezing time is disconcerting when I was playing Vegas yesterday, I'm sure I'll get used to it. Only seen one graphical glitch and it was quite minor, running on ultra and not seen any slowdown yet, but I've not done much more than wander down corridors.

[Psychosplodge]

Also the voice supported name list is hilarious. (http://hastebin.com/raw/ovayuyalej)

[CoffeeGrunt]

I'm totally becoming F*ckface, Saviour of the Wastes.

Oh, but damn, Furiosa tho.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah but you could also be Vash the stampede. Or Boobies.

[eldargal]

Got my copy yesterday evening, the pip-boy is totes gorgeous, not got far in the actual game yet.

[Psychosplodge]

Saw a thread on r/fo4 that advised to collect plates. I'm worried I'm not going to be able to not loot everything.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Yeah, apparently it's a hoarders' game, so I'm gunna put everything into Strength so I can carry all that junk. :P

[Psychosplodge]

Just seen a beautiful treehouse. I'm going to get six hours of no progress later

[CoffeeGrunt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BGYPyvC-U

That's decided it. There shall be two heroes of the wastes. Furiosa and F*ckface.

[eldargal]

Wasted so much time scavenging construction materials from th starting location lol, so fun. Built a steel bunker.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Fortress of Femitude?

I'm going to be getting very jelly for the next two months, 'til I get a next-gen system and hit this like a freight train.

[eldargal]

I like that name, mine are usually smuttier.:p

Worth it, looks amaze on Ultra settings.

[Psychosplodge]

It certainly looks better than the supposed ultra screenshots that were bouncing around.

So we have the skills to build from the start? Or are you 12 hours in at this point?

[eldargal]

I think those screenshots were BS, my game looks ridiculously better than those screenshots. I blame trolls.

Not quite literally from the start, maybe 20 minutes in? I've been playing probably around 2 hours or so maybe a bit more, a lot of that spent messing about with the building stuff lol.

[Psychosplodge]

Well thats the point of configurators, then you have to loot the vault. Sounds promising though. Looks like I will be building this evening :D

[Erik Setzer]

Had mine preloaded, but I have to work today, so all I got to do this morning was see the intro cinematic and make faces for the character and SO and see how pretty everything looks. Looks beautiful and runs smooth, can't wait to get out in the world and see everything.

Semi-related funny thing... Last night was the first time I've gotten Fallout 3 to load on my PC without crashing. It's on Steam but still tries loading some Windows LIVE thing every time I load it, which I just cancel out of. Played for a few hours, I'll have to go back and actually play through it after I play Fallout 4.

[Psychosplodge]

https://41.media.tumblr.com/eabc1d00c5cabe8d7f04c959ff4fc74f/tumblr_nxkkhu641f1rby7x1o1_1280.png

[Psychosplodge]

Not got very far.

Cleared pretty much anything not bolted down in Sanctuary. Saved the settlers in Concord, and built this monstrosity.

http://i.imgur.com/OkhUZSR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rJuKjkS.jpg

Doing internal stairs was a pain in the arse. The upstairs walls didn't want to co-operate. And I still haven't got the internal lights working.

Also does anyone know where to find crystals?

[Psychosplodge]

Also I want to build one of these now.

http://i.imgur.com/j20krgz.jpg

[eldargal]

Internal lights are a bit trucky. Need to put a conduit on the wall and a switch inside (my switches don't actually turn the lights on and off lol) and hook the conduit up to a power generator/pylon. Each conduit seems to have a limited range so need to place them well or have multiples.

Where did you get that plane engine bit lol? Not seen anything like that in my building categories.

[Psychosplodge]

I'll have a look at that then. Scavenging again at the moment. Though I'm thinking of dismantiling that build and making a prefab tower block or enclosed street instead with defence towers at each end.

Generators, wind turbine. It's bigger than it looks in the menus.

[eldargal]

Scavenging is fun, running low on gears so going to go on a desk fan hunt lol. It's an interesting looking build.:) I made a big steel tower, its kind of imposing but a bit dull. Going to steal that power armour bunker idea and maybe make a more sprawling structure.

Oh neat, thought it was way smaller.

[CoffeeGrunt]

God dammit, I wanna build a fortress base. Build it like Cadian Kasrs, a city designed to be impossible to take. Layer after layer of defenses and turret traps. :P

[Psychosplodge]

Also apparently you can assign NPCs to beds which should keep them out of yours.

Yeah you'll need a lot of copper for that, and thats one of the main things I'm struggling to procure enough of.

[eldargal]

Here's my tower, highest I can make it before I can't place anything due to automatically leaving th building zone lol:
http://i.imgur.com/XkkgsBE.jpg
Picture looks **** for some reason, ****ing FRAPS.

[Psychosplodge]

you playing PC? just F12 it.

I think we're building in the same spot. Where's you safety fencing? :rolleyes:

That's the kind of steel cube I was thinking of replacing it with. I wasn't aware of there being a ceiling though I suppose it makes sense.

[eldargal]

F12 doesn't mess with the quality? STarted using Fraps because the in game versions always seemed rubbish.

Could be lol, there are more smaller buildings dotted about elsewhere. Out of view.:p

It's quite fun, lot of room for beds and such, might make the top floor a kind of penthouse with lots of art and such.

[CoffeeGrunt]

That's hella imposing. You need to make it open-topped and fill it with those mortar turrets, raining death on the area below. :P

[eldargal]

That's what I was going for lol. I might slap some mortars on the wooden platform.:p

[CoffeeGrunt]

Can you get Barbed Wire in it? I'm aiming for a 40K style unasssailable fortress of doom.

[Psychosplodge]

We can build mortars? :eek:

[eldargal]

There are wire fences, not sure about barbed wire.

Yup fairly sure there is a mortar turret?

[Psychosplodge]

I can see me not getting much further tonight either :D

[Morgrim]

This is like listening to a bunch of people playing Minecraft. I take it the main quest is rather uninspiring compared to building your wasteland fortress?

[eldargal]

I found a Fatman, and I have all of 2 mini-nukes to go with it heh. Could have some real fun with it though.

[Psychosplodge]

IDK Morgrim, I haven't attempted it yet, but its the novelty value cause the junk was rather useless previously.

I always saved them in 3 for the behemoths EG.

[Kirsten]

the people's republic of les-topia shall be constructed then

[Erik Setzer]

The upstairs walls didn't want to co-operate. And I still haven't got the internal lights working.

Also does anyone know where to find crystals?

For lights, you need to set up those connector things close to your lights, and wire it to a generator. Luckily I had a friend on Skype explaining that.

For crystals, you can get 4 from a crystal vase, so be on the lookout for those.

[Psychosplodge]

Communists? In post apocalyptic america? I don't think they'll like that.

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Thanks.

[Erik Setzer]

I got to play for a bit over five hours last night. Went through Concord, and helped the other settlement... think that's about all I can say without spoilers. Also found another unaligned settlement, a farm selling ammo and guns.

I want to follow the story, but building's been pretty fun. I'm not doing anything as elaborate as other people, but did set up a two-story building, some turrets, guard posts, towers, crops, beds, couches, even a small side building that I put a desk, chair, and cabinets in for an "office" (kind of a coincidence that happened when trying to position chunks of building). Actually had enough set up that when the one guy gave quests to set up stuff for the settlement, I was able to just keep completing them immediately.

I live the flexibility of gameplay, though I hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the *** later. I opted to go with more points in Charisma and Intelligence, some in Luck, 4 in Agility, and 3 in everything else. Boosted Charisma up to 10, and so far have the three perks that let you point a gun at someone and "pacify" them. When taking out a large group of Raiders, it helped to have a half dozen or so put their guns down and raise their hands. I feel that simulates someone who doesn't want to depopulate the remaining population of the world any more than necessary, and it also saves on bullets. I was also able to walk up to a stand-off with people threatening someone for money and talk them into lowering their guns, giving me all their money, and leaving. It's refreshing to be able to defuse a situation without just blasting someone's head off.

I also like that you get XP for crafting. I was getting levels from cooking, making armor mods, and building up my base of operations. Not as much as from completing quests, sure, but it's a nice supplement.

The dog is sometimes a bit of a pain. He "finds" things and it could be just a mirror with some buffout still in it, or something on the other spectrum. One time I kept following him through the woods because he "found" something, and he led me to a cabin in the woods where feral ghouls were apparently making drugs (they had a chemical lab and a bunch of drugs laying around).

It's been a fun experience. Lots of little touches everywhere that really help. And the graphics are beautiful and people complaining should be slapped repeatedly.