Fallout 4

[Psychosplodge]

I suppose it depends what other perks are available to you at the point you level up.

[eldargal]

So I got a message telling me to go help defend th Castle from attack, Iget there, no attack, hang around for ages, no attack. Leave and fast travel somewhere else, get a failed to defend notice and the entire population of the Castle are ded. Reload, wait around longer, no attack, get grumpy, go somewhere else, fail notice, all but one person ded. Reload, wander around, get bored shoot a Brahmin that was hanging about, loot synth components of the Brahmin, defend Castle success notice...

Synth Brahmins. It was a cowardly attack...

[Kirsten]

lol

I have killed quite a few synths, but only the obvious looking ones. but I have seen the load screen messages about human looking ones too. was in the Castle and I saw a new settler who was obviously an infiltrating doom robot. was a bout to shoot when I realised they were a non-feral ghoul... first one I had seen in 4, though a few more have turned up as settlers since.

[eldargal]

There is a whole settlement of ghouls you can recruit in the east as well.

[Psychosplodge]

Only had to defend the castle once. Had to walk the walls twice before anyone turned up to attack. Group of raiders walked out from the left hand path that approaches the doors. Don't think any made it to the courtyard though tbh.

[Mr Mystery]

Okay, I caved in and just bought it off of Amazon.

And Assassin's Creed Syndicate. And Star Wars Battlefront.

I need stuff to see me through January, yeah?

[Psychosplodge]

You could have put the other two off till the sales.

[Mr Mystery]

Nevar!

[Psychosplodge]

Think of all the plasticy goodness the difference could have bought...

[Mr Mystery]

Need to behave there. I've got a big old backlog building up, and I want to repair my existing scenery collection to boot.

[Erik Setzer]

It may already have been mentioned, but the Scrapper perk is very useful. Lets you get extra materials when you scrap weapons and armour, including copper and so forth, then more rare materials in the second rank. Combine it and the travel while heavily encumbered and salvage runs become very lucrative.

Oh yeah, that perk has added so much stuff to my stash! A lot of materials I couldn't find are coming from all the guns I'd been breaking down for just wood and steel before. Huge boost. Worth getting both ranks, definitely.

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I really need to stop talking to Preston, he keeps sending me on the same missions. 23 hours in and I have done virtually no story missions, just set up settlements and responded to calls for help.

It's not so bad when it's different settlements and all, but in under a week's time Mr. Abernathy has managed to have his wife *and* his daughter kidnapped, and I'm pretty sure there was an earlier kidnapping there. Since there's an offer to give him the caps to pay the ransom (since he's "too poor"), I've become convinced it's a scam he's running where one of the women in his family is "kidnapped" and he tries to convince someone (i.e. me) to pay the ransom, and he gets a nice cut of that.

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don't know about the artillery, I assume it is just limited by the marker grenades.

Check your workbench if you get low. In Sanctuary Hills (where I did set up one or two pieces, so that might have something to do with it), I can get another 10-12 artillery markers every time I go back to town and check that (plus 10 flares). I think I have a hefty collection of them by now.

[Kirsten]

yeah I know, I have plenty. it is one of those things where realistically I probably wont remember to ever use them, especially as I can't find any way to show on the map what the coverage is, so if I don't know, I wont bother throwing a marker.

[Erik Setzer]

In my game I've gotten up to over 50 hours in. I think I'm mostly through the main story, but it's hard to tell. Been going around helping out all over the place. I have a lot of settlements, and keeping them all in good shape isn't easy. Some of the trickier ones include an old Raider camp in the middle of town, or, worse, the Croup Manor, which doesn't have room to really build around the house, and the house itself is wrecked, so anyone who comes there won't really have shelter (two people apparently wandered in, but can't find them to link one to Sanctuary Hills so I can actually build anything).

So far the repeatable quest givers I've found are Garvey (who always seems to have a pair of missions at any given time), the two Brotherhood folks in Cambridge Police Station (one gives quest to get a piece of tech, the other quests to clear locations), and the technical guy on the Prydwen (I think... he offers to let you go on patrols, which I assume are infinite quests). It's a nice way to build up XP, but can be maddening if you're a completionist, so for now I've set aside most of them until I'm closer to done with the main story.

Synth Brahmin... hmm. Now I'm paranoid about all the brahmin I see in camps where I didn't buy them or put in a trough.

With Charisma, maxing it out *does* make a difference at points in the game. I've talked people into standing down, turning themselves in, giving me more money, all kinds of things. And it was totally worth it to "pacify" a freaking Glowing Deathclaw. (Note: If you get the "incite" rank of the pacify perks, you might keep a Raider from attacking you, but not from attacking the person you're trying to escort out of an area.)

Granted, my shooting is messy because of not many points in Agility, but to make up for that, I've maxed out my perks for modifying weapons and armor. Sometimes it's hard to actually hit a target (especially if they're fast), but I have weapons that can just lay out a Raider or a Ghoul in one shot (rifles, mind you... the shotgun's even nastier). I have an auto-laspistol that just wrecks things, but I have to get close because I apparently can't aim worth squat (like the character can actually miss even if you target correctly).

I'm doing more with bases now. Not as impressive as some folks, but that'll come once I'm done dealing with the Brotherhood-Institute-etc. mess. For now, I feel pretty good. I have a nice u-shaped courtyard at the Drive-In with booths lined up to but from and tables with chairs in the middle. At Sanctuary Hills I've adjusted a lot... Merged the buildings with my settlers' beds so it's just one three story metal building with beds upstairs and seating downstairs (metal buildings are a PITA to build right). Small bunker for my power armour and workshop; armour downstairs, all the crafting areas upstairs along with a bench and a table to relax and talk to someone. Rec room's now got pool table, dining table, seating, and a corner with a disco ball and jukebox (and seems to be where a lot of settlers spend their down time). My "house" has a pair of beds and dressers, desk with chair, and even a couch with a TV. And both main paths into the place have layers of turrets. Next step is getting the caps to put together bigger shops and building a proper marketplace. Sadly, a lot of space is also being taken up by a building that's story-related (which made it awkward showing a friend around the area, because explaining it would be a bit of a spoiler).

I am having a blast so far and I'm not sure when I'll be done with this playthrough, but I'm sure a second one with a different type of character will be tons of fun as well. And I still haven't see what the modding community will do, or the DLC Bethesda is planning.

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yeah I know, I have plenty. it is one of those things where realistically I probably wont remember to ever use them, especially as I can't find any way to show on the map what the coverage is, so if I don't know, I wont bother throwing a marker.

Yeah, that's why I have a bunch of them. I'm trying to build more artillery, but you have to assign someone to them. And then there's the problem that the marker takes your grenade slot (I just ended up using my "favorites" for different types of grenades to get around that).

[eldargal]

Talking about artillery?
http://tm-kirsche.square7.ch/Fallout%204%20Artillery.png
Can't verify the accuracy.

[Kirsten]

hmm, that is roughly what I expected. I placed mine in three locations so far based on roughly that radius

[Psychosplodge]

I've called in strikes in the zone covered by Jamaica Plain without having artillery there, Although I have one Oberland, one at hangmans, and two at castle, so how far south or south west they cover idk.

[Gotthammer]

The Fallout 4 experience:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/800cf2d999cc4cbce9a9e8fc4cbdf3d7/tumblr_inline_ny0z1lCDyJ1rpydgs_540.jpg

Also:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/c16ba3bce0839847de7b4ff632ee4256/tumblr_nfgaounimj1qgh75xo1_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Lol, accurate.:p

http://i.imgur.com/t4hHNcX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k71928o.jpg
Hur hurrr.

Me: I need to stop making such ridiculously ambitious building projects requiring obscene amounts of materials.
Me five minutes later:
http://i.imgur.com/DBarK00.jpg

[Gotthammer]

Hur hurrr.

Lol u dork :p



Me: I need to stop making such ridiculously ambitious building projects requiring obscene amounts of materials.
Me five minutes later:

Oh dear...

[Gotthammer]

Forbidden love in the wastes:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/1cb135f966a48815e86114ae3fa4aa2a/tumblr_ny5o9hKLoF1touf2uo3_1280.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/040afedac34999754f0d551a073f78cd/tumblr_ny5o9hKLoF1touf2uo5_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/32f49f6f051b8859824395a4462dab4a/tumblr_ny5o9hKLoF1touf2uo6_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

*smooth jazz music*

[Gotthammer]

Taking a photo of my robot models all together before they disappear forever as things in this game are wont to do:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/63a28c9f026bf6efc8496c0c197bb367/tumblr_nydateuh351r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

Also been working on Spectacle Island:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/9fd538f680e0c969104dfca0faffd074/tumblr_nydateuh351r3nwsxo6_1280.jpg


The farm pit (the northern section is now done, still got to do the eastern end and upper southern portion):

https://41.media.tumblr.com/c7d440e651b337c6098f3eafc90ac51f/tumblr_nydateuh351r3nwsxo7_1280.jpg


The finished (for now) entrance:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/3a0e369f7a766e64234ef783db64a56e/tumblr_nydateuh351r3nwsxo9_1280.jpg


The structurally finished but unfurnished north side:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/2fec8309371c6294387de9b7a6c870eb/tumblr_nydateuh351r3nwsxo8_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Very impressive.:)

[Gotthammer]

Currently has a population of four :p

[eldargal]

Seems reasonable.:p

[CoffeeGrunt]

How high can population go, and does the game still have that old Combat Armour? I may have to await the modding community's handiwork, but I think with the ability to build mighty fortresses, fill them with guns and artillery, and have a population dedicated to its eternal defense, I could build an epic Cadia-esque settlement. :P

[Gotthammer]

The cap is 10 + charisma, so I've got Cha 9 so can have up to 19 per settlement. There is combat armour, yes.

[Gotthammer]

Pics of said combat armour:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/3d61f32e5b94fe56b033689627b37994/tumblr_nydfudMu6A1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/10df07b82d23c25e7a4a19b73dc61b41/tumblr_nydfudMu6A1r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/5eff902797d7e4f82e8a6bb25703d614/tumblr_nydfudMu6A1r3nwsxo3_1280.jpg

The colour of it changes slightly depending on how it is modded. Mine is pale because I've made them all ultra-lightweight, the default is a much darker green.

[Mr Mystery]

In theory, this should be waiting for me upon my return home tonight....

Never played Fallout before, but I'm rather looking forward to it. Spesh if I can write sweary signs for the outside of my settlements.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

In theory, this should be waiting for me upon my return home tonight....

Never played Fallout before, but I'm rather looking forward to it. Spesh if I can write sweary signs for the outside of my settlements.

Run, Run!
It will consume your mind!

[CoffeeGrunt]

Fingers crossed for an unlimited settler mod that allows me to recruit them as a private army. :P

[eldargal]

I'm sure that will happen if it hasn't already lol.

[Gotthammer]

It has already (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1613/?) :)

[CoffeeGrunt]

Awww yeah. Now I just need to build a new PC, then start working on my series of Kasrs in the Wasteland! :P

Fallout wouldn't happen to have a hat similar to Soviet tank crewman hats, would it?

[Gotthammer]

No, but you can find ushankas about though.

[Mr Mystery]

I've also got Battlefront and Assassin's Creed.....and I still need to go back to Until Dawn.

I'm a lazy, feckless gamer, I am.

[Erik Setzer]

I found out something kind of funny this week... Piper is apparently religious. I was in a ruined church and had to wait for someone for a mission (not going to say the mission, might be a spoiler), and I decided to kill time by sitting on a pew and waiting. When the time was up, I saw Piper sitting on the pew in front of me. Moved around and saw her sitting there with her hands clasped and her head bowed, as if she was praying. I've never seen her do that anywhere. But then, it might also help explain why she's not as "open" as everyone seems to think. (Recruited Macready last night and immediately got Piper back before she left, and as he left Macready made a horribly veiled attempt at a pass on her, which got shot down. Makes me wonder who else is secretly eyeing her...)

Just got the island, so I haven't been able to do anything that crazy with it yet. I actually had to go to one of my existing settlements and tell them to create a supply line to it so I could build much of anything. Especially important as I'd gone around on a mad scrapping spree and didn't realize they were using trees to attach connectors to with the line running out to the boat for power, so I needed to build power pylons and had no mats. Just setting up a building for beds and some basic furniture and lighting it ran me out of copper.

I'm getting further along the stuff I think I need to complete before wrapping up the main storyline. Once I'm done with all that, I'm going to go hunting for scrap everywhere and building some serious settlements.

Is there a mod for scrapping buildings that aren't classified as ruined? Or for patching them up? Sanctuary Hills has too many wrecked homes that are in too bad shape to use for housing, and then there's the mess that's Croup Manor, a completely shattered house with no serious shelter that takes up most of the small space allocated to that settlement.

Oh yeah, also got to level 50 and unlocked the final stage of the Intimidation perk. It's brilliant to walk up to a Raider and get him to hand over all his weapons and armor, and even fetch for you and attack people. Sadly, there's still the issue where it resets their behavior if you even just log into a terminal or go to pick a lock, so some guy started trying to punch me with nothing but the clothes on his back... that ended bad for him.

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I've also got Battlefront and Assassin's Creed.....and I still need to go back to Until Dawn.

I'm a lazy, feckless gamer, I am.

Eh... I finally got FO3 to play on my PC, need to play it. Got to wrap up FONV. Think I'm 1/2 to 3/4 through Skyrim (but still a lot I can do there). Got Kingdoms of Amalur to finish up some day. Metro 2033 and Last Light. The Batman games (especially with Arkham Knight now patched to work on PC). Assorted sports games. Try playing some Space Engineers, and actually dive into Divinity: Dragon Commander. Wrap up South Park: The Stick of Truth, and Spec Ops: The Line. Oh, and Borderlands 2. Got The Witcher 1 and 2, and saw 3 on sale for half off, need to play those. Barely started Dragon Age: Inquisition. There's also the Bioshock and Gears of War trilogies, still haven't got those started yet. And I got Tomb Raider free on XBox. Maybe try to get used to driving in GTA V enough I can actually make some progress in it, at least online (though lack of "legitimate" stuff to do takes away some of the fun). Oh, and I need to prep for Legion in World of Warcraft, and level up some more heroes in Marvel Heroes (and maybe see if I can gear them up, but I don't do raiding in that game, so not really necessary).

There's a lot of others I could list. You shouldn't feel even remotely ashamed of your "backlog."

I'm not going to get into my figures backlog... but they're what keeps me alive.

[Psychosplodge]

Think I've decided what to finally do with Red Rocket, think I'm going to use it to store companions when not questing with them. Having acquired Strong now needed somewhere to store him, and Sanctuary was blacked out on my options.

[Gotthammer]

So in other news I just discovered you can simultaneously romance Piper and Curie...

[eldargal]

So in other news I just discovered you can simultaneously romance Piper and Curie...

:O

[Gotthammer]

Lol yup :p

So I went through the full romance with Piper with every flirt and the final romance, but I was just now travelling with Curie and got her relationship up to max and only took the romance option (was red but I have Cha 10), and the romance went *ding!*

Went back to sanctuary and slept, got the lover's embrace from Curie, then changed followers to Piper, slept again and got the same from her.

[Mr Mystery]

Hussy!

[Gotthammer]

I guess you could say... I'm a player :cool:

[eldargal]

Don't hate the player hate EA.

[Gotthammer]

The only sensible option.

And speaking of sensible options:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/dcd687e6eac95c4ea6c1dc95642544bb/tumblr_nygu8ocTue1r3nwsxo1_540.png

Have I been spending too much time with the Atom Cats?


Or not enough?

[eldargal]

I'd hit it.

[Gotthammer]

It's the freckles, isn't it? :p

[eldargal]

also the high waisted shorts.;)

[Gotthammer]

Sensible ;)

[Mr Mystery]

Hair is a bit much, but I'm a freckle fan (I have a thing for redheads. Can't have one without the other!)

I shall be starting this game on Sunday....

[Gotthammer]

Hair is a bit much,

Check out this square, daddy-o :cool:

:P

Actually went back to her regular hair:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/6f5014da47745e7425e9c0aea58e7f09/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg


Also made a area for my traders:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/b34cbf13e32ebd539461a553e804c0af/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/d57d85b9182f703abde997db242adf49/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo3_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/645cdb56cf953a643cb21798841310d2/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo4_1280.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/c7a4d2788e20a35090cb5faaf34922eb/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo5_1280.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/ffd3f15aa6403855df5b3863fa1afc79/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo6_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/7654d819d3e9a0568b75209498746123/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo7_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/7d6e3b4e2d36fcf6fe74df0846658fba/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo8_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/b49b0777ff5a43a437ef8817ec939a4c/tumblr_nyh9dgFKmB1r3nwsxo9_1280.jpg


Much painstaking placing of all those individual items... but happy with the result. Hopefully wont come back to them scattered all over the place lol

[Kirsten]

you know you will.

[eldargal]

Really nice trading area.:) I need to add some more chairs to mine, some tables too for the bar area. Found out why no one was using it, obviously enough they hit the bar after working hours are done lol.

[Kirsten]

I had a guy sitting in the bar area I had built and was very excited

[eldargal]

http://i.imgur.com/ESjMnkk.jpg
I wasted like 300 copper on this. No regrets.

[Gotthammer]

https://media.giphy.com/media/XDhnFMRoIUvy8/giphy.gif

[eldargal]

Hehe.:cool: I was thinking about adding names to all my major settlements, but the amount of copper involve puts me off the idea lol. One for each lightbox, one for a wire to link each lightbox together, one more wire to link the whole lot to a switch or conduit and then 10 more copper for a generator which will power 10 boxes which might average out at one letter, maybe a bit more.

[Kirsten]

I wasted like 300 copper on this.

none of it was wasted.

[eldargal]

It is pretty amazing.:p

[Kirsten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbYUd1jUc4

[Gotthammer]

The best part of Sanctuary - perhaps even of the whole game:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/a190eb9bce684278481823e7235450c2/tumblr_nyirgvp2M21r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/9c2d07ea4b6645f3cde9147394bc59c9/tumblr_nyirgvp2M21r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Some of settlements have kitties.

[Mr Mystery]

Well, you've got to feed the Dogses something.

[eldargal]

I just found my 29th power armour frame.:cool:

[Mr Mystery]

It has begun....

So far, got the Power Armour, got thoroughly pissed off with the Deathclaw (I'm sorry, there seems to be a small pebble behind you, so you can't back up...), then nailed it.

Back to Sanctuary, and looking for missions.

[Psychosplodge]

I've extended my presence at the drive-in. Got three guards, a provisioner, and a single shop keeper. Will expand the number of shops, add another guard or two as well as I get spares at sanctuary/sunshine co-op. Also it seems to be a spot that regularly gets attacked by deathclaws :eek:

Also managed to misplace a named settler that I invited to work for me. I know I saw her at the settlement at least once, but now when I assemble the settlers she doesn't appear to be there.

[Gotthammer]

It has begun....

One of us! One of us! One of us!


Also managed to misplace a named settler that I invited to work for me. I know I saw her at the settlement at least once, but now when I assemble the settlers she doesn't appear to be there.

Who was it?

[Mr Mystery]

Finding it all a bit....odd at the moment.

Lots of wandering around picking stuff up.

I have however customised my Pipe Autopistol. It's now got a stabba, embiggened clip, and a couple of other doodads. I then shot some Molerats in the face.

[Psychosplodge]

One of us! One of us! One of us!

http://i.imgur.com/pVOHwVt.gif



Who was it?

Agatha. She's not back where I found her either.





Finding it all a bit....odd at the moment.

Lots of wandering around picking stuff up.

I have however customised my Pipe Autopistol. It's now got a stabba, embiggened clip, and a couple of other doodads. I then shot some Molerats in the face.

ewww pipe weaponry :p

[Mr Mystery]

Shut up, you.

Also, found a power core thingy under Red Rocket in the mole rat den. Very useful!

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah I missed that hole completely till I was about level twenty

[Gotthammer]

Agatha. She's not back where I found her either.

Don't know her (or I'm forgetting lol) where'd you meet her?

[Psychosplodge]

The radio station in the south west.

[Mr Mystery]

Dude, the terminal in Red Rocket tells you it's there!

[Psychosplodge]

Does it? I seem to remember it saying something about winning a annual waste reduction award or something.

[Gotthammer]

Anne not Agatha :p

Could use console commands to move her to you, should fix the issue.

[Psychosplodge]

Are you sure? That would make it harder to find her if I'm looking for the wrong person wouldn't it?

[Mr Mystery]

Does it? I seem to remember it saying something about winning a annual waste reduction award or something.

Yup. Goes on about hiding the barrels, and nature blessing them with a cave underneath.

[Gotthammer]

Are you sure? That would make it harder to find her if I'm looking for the wrong person wouldn't it?

This is the place you met her, right? (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/WRVR_broadcast_station)

[Psychosplodge]

Yes :D
oops.
I suppose if this evening I look for the correct person I'm more likely to find her.
Though I need to go find more cloth to continue settlement expansion.

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Yup. Goes on about hiding the barrels, and nature blessing them with a cave underneath.

Yeah I probably didn't read that properly.

[Mr Mystery]

See if you run out of Power Armour Go-Juice whilst out in the field, is there anyway to have it returned to your base?

[Psychosplodge]

Fast travelling doesn't use fuel.

[Mr Mystery]

You can Fast Travel?

Must say, I'm finding new fangled games have very poor tutorial modes, or none at all.....

[eldargal]

Also I think the first power core you get with the quest armour runs out super fast, all my subsequent cores I've used have lasted way longer.

If you need cloth, loot all the pre-war money you come across. Also clothing off everybody. Invest a point in rank 1 of Scrapper to get copper and stuff from weapons too and loot all the pipe rifles you can.

I was wandering around the west of the map last night and I stumbled across a raider den in a ruined motel or something, caught them so much by surprise the Raider boss had got out of his power armour, I was able to beat him to it and steal the power armour frame and kill him and his crew with it. It was hilarious.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah but I'm saving pre-war money because reasons. It is handy that it respawns behind the bank every few days or so.

But yeah I've got two ranks in scrapper, and my earlier copper issues have become less of an issue.

Yeah a lot of it you find out by trial and error. I tagged oil for search and can't figure out how to untag it...

[eldargal]

If you don't need cloth pre-war money is excellent for caps, no weight, decent value, found everywhere.

It's still an issue if you go making big neon signs for your settlement hehe.:p But I get more from scrapping pipe rifles after hitting a raider or super mutant den than Iget looting everything with copper in it in said dens. Of course I do both.

[Mr Mystery]

What can one do in Sanctuary that's useful?

[eldargal]

Build a settlement which is very fun.:)

[Mr Mystery]

Any side quests?

I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, of course!

[eldargal]

Preston Garvey the minuteman should have sidequests for you to get more settlements and stuff.

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I just initiated Order 69 and expelled all the men I could from Sanctuary.:cool: Only Preston, the Vault-Tec rep and the chap whose name I forget but comes with his wife and the other settlers from Cambridge remain + 15 women.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm a bit annoyed that I had the random encounter with the bloke that you can invite to run your lv3 bar before I was able to offer him the position and haven't seen him again since, yet I've encountered the mob of named ghouls random event about eight times ¬_¬

[Gotthammer]

Is that the guy with the world's smallest bar? Met him really early on too. Those named ghouls are all named after your neighbours from before the war who don't go in the vault.

[Psychosplodge]

No wonder they want me dead :D
Not sure possibly, the guy with a lot "friends" I think he described himself as.

Also does anyone else occasionally just randomly get xp as they're walking along for no apparent reason?

[eldargal]

Companion killing things?

[Psychosplodge]

I'd have assumed as much but they've been stood by me not in combat.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

If you have the idiot savant perk you have a % chance of gaining c p from any action, including taking steps!

[Kirsten]

I randomly had 24XP gained the other day, no idea why

[Psychosplodge]

I haven't got that perk kap'n. But yeah Kirsten that's literally the kind of thing I mean.

[Mr Mystery]

Am I levelling up right?

Go up a level, enter Pipboy, choose where to bung a star.

Because these perks - I'm not familiar with them?

[Psychosplodge]

All the stuff underneathe the special options, you can pick one of those as long as you meet the minimum each time.

[Gotthammer]

I randomly had 24XP gained the other day, no idea why

Near a settlement with turrets or idling companions? Could be from there maybe?

[Mr Mystery]

OK.

Shall have a look tonight.

Got Tuesday and Wednesday off work, so hoping to put some decent hours into it.

[Kirsten]

not really, just wandering downtown

[Gotthammer]

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[Kirsten]

I was very disappointed that Paladin Danse is neither Charles Dance, nor Dances...

[eldargal]

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Mod the year.

[Psychosplodge]

But are the space marine colours out yet? :D

[Erik Setzer]

So in other news I just discovered you can simultaneously romance Piper and Curie...

Or anyone, really. Jim Sterling did a video expressing joy over how you can do polyamorous relationships in FO4 without getting penalized for it.

Though with some characters, it might be weird... like Piper. She's turned down two other characters so far, not sure how she'd feel being in that kind of relationship. Maybe as long as your side loving doesn't involve her?

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Also does anyone else occasionally just randomly get xp as they're walking along for no apparent reason?

I think it might be from allies nearby killing enemies. Usually when I get that I hear a gunfight nearby. Only explanation I can think of.

[Psychosplodge]

It's a reasonable explanation like others said, but I wasn't particularly nearby. *shrugs*

[Gotthammer]

Though with some characters, it might be weird... like Piper. She's turned down two other characters so far, not sure how she'd feel being in that kind of relationship. Maybe as long as your side loving doesn't involve her?

Well she only turns down dudes so yeah :cool:

Alternatively as a friend said today: "You have your sanctuary wife, and your drive in husband... and neither of them ever meet". Though I did tell him that I've bene reliably informed that polyamoury is the solution for everything :p

[Psychosplodge]

She didn't seem interested in Cait either.

It's possibly the only way to afford children and a house in this day and age :D

[Gotthammer]

She didn't seem interested in Cait either.

Oh yeah, forgot about that whoops :p

[Erik Setzer]

So after over 90 hours of gameplay and over 60 levels, I finally finished the main quest line (still a few more locations to check out, then some serious work on settlements, and maybe a second playthrough).

Oof. It's a rollercoaster.

Spoilerific commentary in white below.


The route I took was helping the Synths to escape and get into the general populace, so helping the Railroad and Minutemen.

Memorable moments for me:

The Shaun reveal. I might have expected something like that, but it was still just crazy. Well, both reveals (including the later one that he was dying).

The Battle of Bunker Hill, when I was still "friendly" with all of the factions, had Synths and Brotherhood both attacking the Railroad, so I had to kill a lot of Brotherhood. Which started my collection of BoS power armor, that eventually has grown to three dozen or more sets of armor. It was hectic trying to figure out who to shoot to protect the Railroad (since no one's marked as enemy), especially when a trader wandered in, who I was able to save by using Pacify on him. Shaun's post-Battle comments on the rooftop were a bit sad. I'd hoped to convince him to use the Institute to help the Commonwealth, and that I was proof it wasn't beyond saving.

Taking down the Prydwen... Going onto the ship wearing X-01 armor and just mowing down BoS (more armor!) and setting it to blow. Maxon wasn't in his usual spot when I went in, but heading out he was there with a couple of helpers, and I had to quickly take them out. Watching that sucker blow up and crash into the airport was amazing. I want to go back and see how it all looks.

And the final run through the Institute while taking it down for good... Leading a Synth rebellion, talking to a dying Shaun and having to work hard to convince him to at least help me save some of his people, the Synth version of Shaun begging me to take him with me (and I did, I'm not heartless), and finally watching it all blow in the distance... followed by the closing monologue.

I went from looking for my son to having to work against him to save a world I didn't know much about beyond that there were people worth saving. The "ideal life" imagined in the opening was completely shattered. It was one of the saddest stories I've played through in a game, though with a touch of hope as I knew I had an army behind me and the resources to clean up the Commonwealth for good and restart civilization in the area.


Even with the main story done, there's still a lot to do. Visited the USS Constitution last night, and the Atom Cats (took forever to remember to find their location), and there's more places already marked on my map but with more to come, and I could indefinitely keep helping settlements until I get bored.

I need to find a mod that actually works in increasing settlement "size" for objects. One of the ones on Nexus needs "Cheat Engine," which I don't trust. I did get a mod for more settlers, which might become an issue without more "size." Already have two or three settlements with settlers numbering in the low 20s. I also grabbed a couple mods with more stuff to build in settlements, but I don't see those options appearing in-game, so I'm not sure what the deal is there (maybe I have to do more than just use NMM to install the mods).

The game is so fun that I can't see myself prying away from it for another couple of weeks at least. And when DLC starts arriving, I'll come running back.

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Well she only turns down dudes so yeah :cool:

Alternatively as a friend said today: "You have your sanctuary wife, and your drive in husband... and neither of them ever meet". Though I did tell him that I've bene reliably informed that polyamoury is the solution for everything :p

First one she turned down was Cait (who suggested a threesome). Then MacCready, who asks for a "one-on-one interview." I haven't seen anyone else make a pass at her. I can't think off the top of my head of anyone else who would.

Piper's kind of funny because she has a flexible set of morals, practically the very definition of Chaotic Good. There's so many things that seem contradictory but make sense. She's a pretty interesting character, not even remotely one-dimensional.

[Kirsten]

out of curiosity, is it just me that laughs at peen hammer or...?

[Psychosplodge]

No, but it appears to be amusing to females. The SO and her friend both laughed at it, and apparently both me and the friends other half just went "it's a real hammer".

[eldargal]

out of curiosity, is it just me that laughs at peen hammer or...?

Nope, much hilarity here from all the women over the age of 7 or so.

[Kirsten]

No, but it appears to be amusing to females. The SO and her friend both laughed at it, and apparently both me and the friends other half just went "it's a real hammer".

I know it's a real hammer, it is still funny

[Psychosplodge]

lols I'm not sure if they did or not, but it amused me that they'd both got the same response.

[Psychosplodge]

OMG apparently we can hang lightbulbs off wires!

[Kirsten]

Aah, handy

[Gotthammer]

Not actually, or at least not in vanilla. That post that was going around is incorrect, the picture they used involves console commands.

[Psychosplodge]

*******s

I was so excited

[Gotthammer]

Yeah me too when I saw it. Someone might make a mod for it tho.

Also the disappearing named settler thing you had? Apparently it's a common bug with all of the recruitable ones, not setting their home properly or something, so they vanish off to a test room thing below the map or something.

Oh and I got some random XP as well out in the wilds, then ran into a provisioner and some dead bloatflies nearby just after, so a possibility?

[Psychosplodge]

Hopefully.

Well that sounds rather inconvenient :D

Yeah, I suppose I've got that many provisioners wandering round now who know where they are? I do occasionally see them out and about.

[Gotthammer]

Yeah I had someone vanish which is totes annoying :/

I spent some time reorganising my supply lines to make them shorter and more direct now I've got more settlements. Just checked and have 21 settlements so far. Just set up Hangman's Alley with resources and beds for 12 people, setting up Jamaica Plains next.

[Mr Mystery]

K. Getting fed up now.....

Trying to clear out the Assemble Factory of Raiders, and I keep getting slotted, seemingly with no effort on their behalf.

Codsworth Flames a bunch, big explosion. I hide in a room until all is quiet. Walk out? SCUDGE YER DED.

Hmph.

[Psychosplodge]

Sneak more, sneak attack them 2x damage :D You're probably not hard enough yet to go all Rambo on them.

[eldargal]

Move around, use cover, aim for their heads, make sure you have decent armour hehe.

[Psychosplodge]

Close the range for better accuracy and better VATS results. don't forget to keep eating/stimpacking.

[Gotthammer]

Also, don't forget to avoid dying

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[eldargal]

Always a good strategy.

also remember there is a delay when using a stimpak while you shove it in you, so often mid-combat food is a better choice unless you can get behind cover and avoid being shot well ded. Food is actually super useful in FO4, I kind of didn't bother with it in previous games, just nuka-cola and stimpaks.

[Psychosplodge]

I largely ignored it in 3, but played hardcore in NV so had to actually eat :eek:

[Kirsten]

Watch out for the machine gun turrets in the corvega plant

[Gotthammer]

And don't use pipe weapons like some sort of barbarian.


yes I love all the fallout 4 companions

sassy wife
french wife
strong wife
angel cowboy husband
robot husband
zombie husband
dork husband
the hulk
flying british toaster
jim carrey from the beginning of liar liar in a bald cap
dog
calm robot man who I am afraid of
racist buzz lightyear

[Erik Setzer]

Don't forget that sprinting is also your friend. When I was fighting in that plant, I had to run around a lot to move between cover and make up ground faster. Sure, you can't use VATS as much afterward, but VATS is kind of useless if you're trying to pick off someone a long distance away who's shooting you with a longer ranger weapon.

Mod your weapons and armor when you can. It's totally worth investing in those perks. My character isn't particularly strong, not an amazing shot with a gun, and not that tough, but can wade through Raider camps by now just because I mod every bit of gear to the max. (But seriously, a max-modded Overseer's Guardian is freaking obscene, especially if you also max out the automatic weapons damage boosting perk.)

In other notes, I really need to brush up on my Lovecraft so I stop wandering into places named "Dunwich Borers" or "Pickman Gallery" and being surprised at what I see.

For added fun: Go to Pickman Gallery with Piper as your companion. If they'd programmed a retching sound, I think I would have heard it at some point in there. Can't really blame her... of all the messed up things I've seen (and heard, because of course there's a holotape), that place ranks really high in the game on the disturbing and messed up list.

[Psychosplodge]

I'll have to go there. I've only been in the entrance to Dunwhich to recover a settler. I've not really explored the extreme north east of the map yet.

[Kirsten]

And don't use pipe weapons like some sort of barbarian.

you don't really have any other weapons at that point

[Psychosplodge]

10mm pistol and tooled up hunting rifle.

[Kirsten]

I didn't get a hunting rifle until long after the Corvega mission

[Psychosplodge]

I went hunting for one early on because I wanted one for sniping.

[Kirsten]

pipe rifle with early modifications does more damage than the base hunting rifle

[Psychosplodge]

I never used it base. Returned to sanctuary asap for upgrades as soon as got one. (it was a cut down short one) and raiders only generally had pistols at the time as well.

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plus I was from the world that was I didn't want so bodged together barbaric pipe rifle.

[Kirsten]

I was probably level 9 or 10 before I found a weapon that wasn't pipe-based

[Mr Mystery]

Cleared out the Corvega Plant. Eventually. Was OK.

Now I'm clearing out more Raiders, whose ****ty little pop guns seem to ignore power armour (which I ensured was properly patched up beforehand) entirely.

Got so say, I'm not especially enjoying this game.

[Kirsten]

it is quite different definitely. it explains nothing, it can be a pain in the ***. in some ways you take from it whatever you want, and if there is nothing there you want, I can understand. I have put a lot of time in to settlement building, my brother equally has avoided it, because he doesn't play Fallout games for that.

[Erik Setzer]

I'll have to go there. I've only been in the entrance to Dunwhich to recover a settler. I've not really explored the extreme north east of the map yet.

Pinkman Gallery is in the southeast. With Dunwich Borers, you have to actually go inside to really experience all of it. Outside is just a bunch of raiders. Inside is where the fun begins.

I think the extreme north east is also where Salem (and the Witchcraft school) is. Sadly, I wasn't able to learn any witchcraft or even just get a witch outfit from there. Wasted opportunity. :-P

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Cleared out the Corvega Plant. Eventually. Was OK.

Now I'm clearing out more Raiders, whose ****ty little pop guns seem to ignore power armour (which I ensured was properly patched up beforehand) entirely.

Got so say, I'm not especially enjoying this game.

Don't feel ashamed to go into options and turn down the combat difficulty, especially if it's hurting your enjoyment of the game. Some fights can be really brutal, even if you're an FPS veteran, and unlike Battlefront you don't have more than one person helping you (and sometimes their help is questionable).

Power armor being ignored sounds like the combat settings are a bit too high. Granted, I didn't use the power armor that much early on, and by the time I started using it to tangle serious stuff, I'd modded the heck out of it.

Even if it's not your thing, I'd definitely recommend taking time whenever you can to use a cooking station or chemical lab to craft food and/or drugs. They can come in handy, but more importantly, that bit of extra XP will help you level faster.

[Mr Mystery]

You can turn down combat difficulty?

Melon. Farmer.

[Mr Mystery]

Putting it on Very Easy has helped considerably.

Started some construction stuff, but if I'm honest the game still feels like a chore.

Go over there, do this, grab that, back to here, rinse and repeat.

[Kirsten]

the story missions are a lot less repetitive, but as the game is half way between an FPS and an RPG there are a lot of RPG style fetch quest elements yeah

[Mr Mystery]

So how do I get onto the story missions?

[Psychosplodge]

Go to diamond city, that points you on the next step. Though I've got four days of playtime and haven't passed that yet.


If you play it like a fps you are going to suffer. It is essentially a RPG underneath the guns. So solve this. Fetch this. Kill that. But the story is good. The easter eggs are fun. But if this is your first fallout game you will miss some references from previous titles.

But you have shooting, combat, building, hunting, crafting, exploring, dungeon crawling, a story, silliness, random events.
But if you're new to it I can see how its thrown you in the deep end to some extent.

[Kirsten]

this is accurate

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[Psychosplodge]

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[Kirsten]

I bumped in to one of my provisioners last night who looked a bit worried and said 'whatever you do, don't go near the asylum' then a mission pops up, investigate the asylum. no, did you not just hear what she said? she said don't go to the asylum. this is how horror films start.

[Psychosplodge]

I've not played it myself but if it's the mission I think it is I've seen it.

Go to the asylum :D

[Kirsten]

I also need to get Ronnie Shaw out of my god damned power armour. Castle was under attack so I powered it up, walked forward to the entrance and hopped out to do something. she immediately got in it, and has been wearing it ever since. for hours and hours now, and I can't do anything about it. I rescued a kidnapped settler, sneaking in to the raider base via a secret tunnel. so when we came out of the front door, there were loads of enemies there still. settler disappeared for a few seconds, came back in a full suit of power armour. where the hell did you just get that from? then he disappeared with it back to his farm.

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I've not played it myself but if it's the mission I think it is I've seen it.

Go to the asylum :D

I have walked through an asylum on route to somewhere else, but nothing happened.

[Psychosplodge]

The one with guards at the gate?

[Kirsten]

don't think there were guards no, must be a different one :p

[Psychosplodge]

Oh, Anne turned up last night. On booting the game I went to Sunshine co-op for some reason, and she was sat in a chair. She's now running a clothing boutique in the drive in.

[Gotthammer]

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[Psychosplodge]

I had a random event where two identical people were shooting at each other, one killed the other and wandered off moaning about synths, but weirder still there was a third identical body in a house next to where they were fighting. No clue to which one was actually a synth.

[Kirsten]

I got my revenge on the named ghouls last night. Then I decided to swap my General's uniform for some combat armour. Was a good hour later that i realised because of the the layers work, i had no clothes on. Just armour and a hat.

[Psychosplodge]

It would be funnier if the NPCs reacted to that.

[Mr Mystery]

Best place to get ammo?

[Psychosplodge]

Scavenger perk. its at far right two or three down on the chart. Literally every container I open has ammo of some sort in. Those I don't use can be exchanged with merchants for those I do need. Treat calibres you don't use as caps. I can't think of the last time I actually spent caps on anything. I normally have enough water/drugs/ammo to swap for anything.

Early game look for a weapon with accuracy over rate of fire. Save the automatic weaponry for when you have spare ammo. A couple of stars in scavenger and you'll not worry about it. With one rank in scavenger I was having to buy .45 rounds for piper's gun. Last night I was running around with an automatic combat rifle and still finding more than I used.

Either that or put everything in strength and endurance, find yourself a powerfist and go fisting across the wasteland :D

[eldargal]

Scavenger perk is great.

to elaborate on 'splodges point about swapping ammo, pick one or two ammo types and stick with them. Like .308 for sniping and 10mm or .556 or .45 for close quarters. Sell all the other ammo you don't need, buy what you do need.

When I realised I wasn't using .38 ammo anymore I had 4800 rounds of it, and that was without Scavenger, just what I had picked up killing raiders and looting ammo crates.

[Gotthammer]

Also after the next couple of story missions you'll get quite a few more vendors including dedicated weapons ones in settlements you'll go through.

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Oh and while companions do need ammo, settlers only need a single bullet as they don't use ammo, so you can take the excess from them (or give them a minigun with a single 5mm bullet and it'll all be good)

[Erik Setzer]

I bumped in to one of my provisioners last night who looked a bit worried and said 'whatever you do, don't go near the asylum' then a mission pops up, investigate the asylum. no, did you not just hear what she said? she said don't go to the asylum. this is how horror films start.

Nah, go check it out. It's worth it. Though it's a little convoluted on what to do. Once you go there and "investigate," the quest trail goes cold. It's only later, when you go somewhere else that it doesn't tell you to go (I had to go to the place for story reasons), that you run into someone who then starts the REAL questline for the asylum. It took me a moment to remember about going to the asylum in the first place.

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It would be funnier if the NPCs reacted to that.

Cait does. I changed into a hazmat suit to go into a radioactive area, then quickly put my armor back on but forgot my vault suit. Fast traveled back to Sanctuary, saw "Cait Liked That," was like, "huh, liked what?", and then noticed when I went to craft that I had no clothes on. D'oh.

[Psychosplodge]

lols

[Mr Mystery]

Now I'm getting into it more.

Found Diamond City, and some decent dakka.

[Kirsten]

no matter what you think it will suck you in until you realise you have been playing for days on end...

[Mr Mystery]

It's getting more fun, especially as I can buy ammo to go dungeon crawling to get xp

[Gotthammer]

Cait does. I changed into a hazmat suit to go into a radioactive area, then quickly put my armor back on but forgot my vault suit. Fast traveled back to Sanctuary, saw "Cait Liked That," was like, "huh, liked what?", and then noticed when I went to craft that I had no clothes on. D'oh.

The companions all have comments on you not wearing clothes, though when they say them and how long you have to be clothesless is a bit random.

[Psychosplodge]

I finally advanced the story a little past diamond city last night. Saw that coming, but didn't expect the cutscene when you leave the dungeon.
It's so pretty. I want one. :D

[Kirsten]

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/12/02/fallout-4-is-not-the-fallout-fans-fell-in-love-with

A good article on Kotaku that covers a lot of the issues Fallout 4 has

[Psychosplodge]

I did have another couple of bugs. I had a conversation that if I tried to take the peaceful option it didn't load the next dialogue screen so you just got stuck there waiting looking at each other.
And Piper fell in the sea, and swam out. And then continued to swim down the road after me. And then round the inside(loading screen type inside) of a building. Had to reload from desktop to clear that one.

[eldargal]

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/12/02/fallout-4-is-not-the-fallout-fans-fell-in-love-with

A good article on Kotaku that covers a lot of the issues Fallout 4 has

The only thing I agree with in that is that the dialogue trees do tend to lead you to one or two conclusions.

[Mr Mystery]

I know I'm sound a right negative nancy, but I'm not particularly enjoying the base building.

Is there a mission which provides a tutorial on how to build decent sized buildings and that? I've just been defaulting to the pre-fab big shack.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm struggling at times with placement, and that's with the benefit of a mouse. I imagine the control pad even worse.

If you start with wood ->floors then theres two types foundation concrete and shack floor iirc.
These can be built "into" the ground. Get one of these at the height you want the floor.
Then jiggle extra pieces to lock to that one till you have the floor area you want.
Then throw a wall around the edge. Or use the half size pieces to give you an overhang about the size of a bed. There are wall pieces appropriate to the ends of these as well.
Don't forget a doorway.
Some steps should lock to the door frame.
again pick a roof. (I generally use the flat metal roof) Jiggle it around near the top of the walls till it locks.

Theres probably some youtube videos that will be useful.

[Mr Mystery]

Will have a look see.

I just find there's not enough description on the bits as you select them to know what to place and when.

So far, Sanctuary has a wall right round the living area, with two sentry guns and a guard post just outside, plus a further guard post and two sentry guns down by the bridge to Red Rocket.

The rest is just a big old bag of 'meh'. But then, it's not essential to the game. Reckon I'll continue with the main story and do fetch missions for a bit.

[eldargal]

Thre is a questline you get from Preston Garvey that gives you some basic settlement taks to teach you the basics, but I'd really recommend reading some tutorials online. It's not a difficult system (though using a controller might make it harder), but it requires some getting used to.
Also remember one of the great strengths of Fallout is exploration, just wandering about seeing what you find and what you can kill and loot, so don't just focus on main missions wander around and explore and see whar you find.:) Not that it will hurt doing the main storyline of course.

[Mr Mystery]

I went wandering.

I found a kicking.

I went wandering.

Found a laser gun.

Tried laser gun.

Laser gun rubbish. Mr Mystery traded it.

[Psychosplodge]

Lasergun works better once you've stuck bits to it.

[Mr Mystery]

It's the ridiculously slow rate of fire, and the AI's unerring knack to dodge the second you pull the trigger. It's cack!

[Psychosplodge]

That was my other bug last night. It was consistently shooting a good inch, inch half screen distance to the right of the crosshairs. Again solved by re-loading.

Still none of the problems compared to fallout 3.

[Erik Setzer]

A lot of it takes some getting used to. I think a bunch of games these days suffer from the companies skipping on manuals, which used to be in every game (even something like Super Mario Brothers). With digital games it's easy enough to include a PDF with the download (like GOG does for old games).

Don't expect to make awesome, impressive, amazing settlements early on. You have to get used to it, and get the mats to build. It took me a while before I started figuring out how to do some stuff, so now I look back even at some of the things I originally liked and I feel I could do them better. (In some cases, I *need* to do better, like building a much larger building for power armor suits after the BOS provided me with three dozen suits.) For example, don't put your "home" next to the main entrance to Sanctuary, because you'll spend too much time hearing freaking Brahmin on the way in and out (especially if you have a bunch of provisioners).

In Sanctuary, my shops - the top-level ones, at that - are all just lined up on the street. Looks awful, really. But at the Drive-In, I have a u-shaped metal area set up for the shops there, with patio tables and chairs, and a fence around the seating area. On the island, I've got a wooden platform set up on the beach (with ladders for "stairs") with shops, a bar, places to sit and enjoy, defenses... You get better at figuring it out as you go along.

Don't compete with the over-achievers. It's like trying to match Mike McVey's paint jobs with only six months of painting experience.

For weapons, you should definitely get the modding perks. They help a lot. And figure out which class of weapon you prefer, and perk that up, too. I went from feeling like I was crap in combat to just mowing people down because I modded automatic weapons, usually rifles, and then maxed out the automatic weapons perks.

[Mr Mystery]

Now I'm feeling it.

Combat Shotgun and Sub-machine gun make all the difference. Cleared out the Super Mutants and saved what's-his-face tonight.

[Kirsten]

combat shotgun is a nice weapon

[Mr Mystery]

Yup. Short range doesn't matter when you're in Diamond City.

[Gotthammer]

I'm slightly worried - who are you having to shoot in Diamond city?! O_o


Playing Fallout 4 be like

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[Psychosplodge]

I assumed he meant the super mutants down the road outside?

[Gotthammer]

Probably, but could have gone on a murder spree :p

[Mr Mystery]

Mutants and Raiders.

I find most situations call for a very special blend of psychology, and extreme violence.

I'm also quite competent at running away from Grenades. And I seem to have a knack for shooting people just when they're about to lob a Molotov, so they burninate themselves.

[Psychosplodge]

I've found not running away from grenades makes me look more badass. Though they hardly ever damage me tbh. Now supermutant suiciders, I run from them. At least behind my companion anyway.

[eldargal]

I used to run away from super mutant suiciders, now I just shoot them 3-4 times with my assault rifle.:p

[Mr Mystery]

Shotgun to the face seems to sort out their nonsense.

Though haven't encountered any suicide ones....thanks for the heads up!

[Psychosplodge]

Turn the difficulty up a notch or two

[Mr Mystery]

I shall do no such thing!

I'm quite enjoying it as it is. Less frustration, more exploration. I play for fun, not a challenge

[Psychosplodge]

Once you've got the mechanics down it's not that challenging.

[Mr Mystery]

Meh.

I may crank them up a notch or two when I next have a shooty mission, see if the experiences has improved with non-wussy weapons. But given Pipe pistols ignored my Power Armour on medium, I'm not hopeful of enjoyment.

[eldargal]

Got a jetpack on my X-01 power armour, didn't realise it drains action points so went up to one of the tall towers and thought I'd fly around Boston for a bit, ended up plummeting from a very significant height but thankfully my fall was broken by a raider who was also broken by the fall. Poor thing. Looted all her things as thank you.

[Aegwymourn]

Meh.

I may crank them up a notch or two when I next have a shooty mission, see if the experiences has improved with non-wussy weapons. But given Pipe pistols ignored my Power Armour on medium, I'm not hopeful of enjoyment.

Once you have a good set with all the pieces and even a couple of mods your armor should protect you from pretty much anything. Been playing on very hard and most enemies attacks deal between 1-3% health. Unless they have mini-nukes, missles, or something similar. Some enemy melee can be pretty nasty too, legendary mirelurks are mean.

Then again I build a high str/end character so I can wreck people with super sledges. So =P

[Mr Mystery]

Got a jetpack on my X-01 power armour, didn't realise it drains action points so went up to one of the tall towers and thought I'd fly around Boston for a bit, ended up plummeting from a very significant height but thankfully my fall was broken by a raider who was also broken by the fall. Poor thing. Looted all her things as thank you.

I hope you declared 'SQUISH' upon landing.

[eldargal]

More 'whoops! *maniacal giggling*.:p

[Mr Mystery]

I shall accept your second answer.

5 points to Gryffindor.

[Kirsten]

just blow the legs off a suicider, much more fun

[eldargal]

just blow the legs off a suicider, much more fun

Do they blow up if you do that? 'cos suiciders are a handy source of min-nukes if you kill them before they detonate.

[Kirsten]

nope, they just flail until you kill them. I have picked up seven mini nukes so far, decided hoarding them wasn't really a good use of their humerous potential, so I have used four now. I like finding buildings full of enemies and launching one through an open window. tricky to get right though

[eldargal]

I was up on the roof of one of the big building in Boston, just north of the river, and the BoS vertibirds were attacking raiders and ghouls and I was just lobbing mini-nukes down from on high it was amazing.:) Accidentally hit a vertibird which was embarrassing.

[Mr Mystery]

nope, they just flail until you kill them. I have picked up seven mini nukes so far, decided hoarding them wasn't really a good use of their humerous potential, so I have used four now. I like finding buildings full of enemies and launching one through an open window. tricky to get right though

I found one of those, but traded it.

I'm not sure I should be trusted with such things.

Also, managed to pinch a PowerCellThing from some Raiders when they weren't looking.

[Gotthammer]

I tend to avoid the mini-nukes, though the MIRV attachment is hilarious to use.

Managed to steal a raider's suit of power armour, but annoyingly now it and everything I put on it counts as stolen so taking out the power core gets dis/approval which is annoying.

[eldargal]

Yup that is annoying, I just stick teh frame in my bunker with raider armour on it and leave it heh.

[Mr Mystery]

It's only off a Raider. Pfffrt.

Also, anyone know if the Raiders in Diamond City respawn, or is it cleared for good on each pass?

[Gotthammer]

They respawn, as do all enemy encampments (though I'm guessing you mean outside Diamond City, the only people inside are the guards - they're meant to be there :p ). The only exception in the city is Hangman's Alley, which you can claim as a settlement.

[Mr Mystery]

Cool.

When I say Diamond City, I mean the area it's contained in rather than the settlement.

[eldargal]

Boston?:p

[Erik Setzer]

Mannequins... yeah, you'll probably shoot a few if you're itchy on the trigger finger.

I ran into the "stealing" a fusion core back problem with the Atom Cats when I first met them. Got confused on where the frame I bought was, so I ended up putting a core in the wrong frame, and then trying to get it back pissed everyone off so I had to reload a saved game (glad the game saves a lot).

I've been playing some with with a second play-through (actually over eight hours into that, and my original's got over 100 hours in it, too), and a mostly melee character is fun (have to switch to guns for flying bugs, people in heights, and suicide mutants... sadly, I've run out of grenades to throw, and don't have nearly enough adhesive to make more rather than modding stuff). I wasn't even going to do much with lockpicking and hacking skills, but had to get lockpicking to Advanced just so I could pick the lock on Grognak's Axe's case. Now I'm running around with Grognak's Axe and Outfit and it's glorious (especially since the "Outfit" is just chest armor, so you can still wear arms, legs, and helmet). Just run up to a guy and SPLAT! Prior to that, I had a modified Chinese Officer's Sword, and a serrated combat knife which just mauled people. During the stand-off with Skinny Malone, I walked up behind him and, right as combat started, popped Jet and a beer, and killed Malone, his girlfriend, and one of the two Triggermen before the Jet wore off, then cornered the other and stabbed him to death, too.

Admittedly, I might be enjoying stabbing and slicing things to death a bit much. (And when interviewed by Piper about the how the world is different, I admitted to enjoying having so many things to blow up.) All in all, Cait is definitely the perfect companion for that character (though I might have to give up some of the drug use once she gets clean).

Also took the opportunity in an early morning in Sanctuary with my "main" character to go set up an area for the shops and move them around to it, behind the building with the workshop and overlooking the river. Set up a bar, a jukebox, benches, tables, even a couple of covered tables for two along the river. And reshuffled the layers of turrets on the entrance to be able to concentrate on the road but not look awful clogging it. Seems like while other folks are building serious fortresses and stuff like that, I'm trying to build settlements that actually feel like they're civilized, little beacons of light in a dark world, a place someone would want to live... while also having so many weapons trained on any point someone might attack that anyone foolish enough to do so gets mulched. :-P

[CoffeeGrunt]

I wanna try running Other Joe's build from the Angry Joe Show. Lord Two-Shanks, who goes to battle with a basic knife and an inventory full of chems. No guns, just a drugged-up knife maniac.

[Erik Setzer]

I wanna try running Other Joe's build from the Angry Joe Show. Lord Two-Shanks, who goes to battle with a basic knife and an inventory full of chems. No guns, just a drugged-up knife maniac.

It's really fun, but I would definitely recommend having some kind of ranged weapons to deal with anything you can't get to. The flying bugs will get out of your reach too easily, and sometimes there's someone on a roof. One option is to put points into demolitions, so you can make grenades and get a grenade arc (very helpful). So then you stab or grenade people, depending on the situation. Also mod the weapons... serrated knife does a good bit more damage.

They're not kidding about how fast the knife attacks are, either. When you do an attack, it swings three times in quick succession. (That can be a mild issue if your companion runs up close, because the bad guy might be dead and then you're accidentally stabbing your friend.)

[Mr Mystery]

Sighted Excited Laser Pistol.

Either my game glitched, or that can teleport me places?

[Erik Setzer]

Sighted Excited Laser Pistol.

Either my game glitched, or that can teleport me places?

It's a glitch. Kind of a weird one that happens with certain weapons, where you aim through the sight, fire, and when you stop aiming it's decided that you were really standing where you were aiming all along. Probably something in the way they coded aiming.

[Mr Mystery]

I wound up miles away.....

[Kirsten]

happened to my brother, he went in to VATS aiming a 10mm pistol and the moment he executed it he was teleported a couple of hundred metres sideways. the only issue was, the ground where he teleported to was around 50m lower than where he started, it moved him directly sideways. he fell to his death...

[Mr Mystery]

Oohhhhhh.

So that's a suicide Super Mutant....

[eldargal]

Fun aren' they lol? Terribly scary at lower levels.

[Gotthammer]

Fun aren' they lol?

They're the bomb :cool:

[eldargal]

Nice.:p

[Mr Mystery]

Nobbled me once, then j found a higher spot, shot him in the nuts with a Laser Pistol, and he went thermo taking out his mates.....

[Erik Setzer]

At higher levels they are surprisingly not so rough. Had one in a building with me, couldn't figure out where he was, showed up running right at me from a few feet away, I shot at him while running but he blew up close. Took just a bit, maybe ~10%, off my health. But by this point I'm rocking armored clothing and hat, and have a lot of the damage reduction perks.

I've gotten to a point where I'm doing more settlement work. Wish the mods worked right with the beta patch, I found two with extra items but they keep unloading. It'd be nice to have extra stuff to build. (Hey Bethesda, get on that!) I've done more and more to set up settlements that are relatively pleasant. For example, used the concrete square in Jamaica Plains to set up their shops and tables, with lighting. Also found out you can hang light bulbs on the umbrella of a patio table, so you can do lit seating. Built another building in Sanctuary Hills that currently has a bunch of tables set up for Minutemen meetings, a floor for dancing to some music, and a rooftop area with seating, basketball hoops, and a nice view of Sanctuary. And I added lights to the tree in the cul-de-sac (you can put the lights that attach to the side of buildings on it, makes for an interesting look), with benches around it to sit. At the drive-in, I built a larger building to hold all of the people's beds, will have more seating and entertainment when I can, and defenses overlooking the trading plaza below. All quite fun.

Speaking of things looking more pleasant... Found a couple of mods, first one was "A Touch of Green" which adds some green to the grass and such on the ground. Other one added leaves to trees. It's a very different look from the blasted mess of the default game, but I think it's better. After all, the fruit plants and such tend to be green, and we've seen in plenty of areas that a nuclear incident (whether bomb or meltdown) doesn't actually decimate the ecosystem of an area permanently. With it having been 210 years since the bombs dropped, that's even more reason for nature to have corrected itself. It also adds a nice touch of "nature overrunning the ruins of mankind," which is a cool feeling for a post-apocalyptic world. I'll attach a screenshot to give an example.
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Only problem is, those leaves aren't textured the best. Kind of sticks out when everything's on Ultra settings.

[Psychosplodge]

Found a teddy sacrifice, and the "romantic" teddys about to ****, and another pair doing oral this weekend. :D

Been having a wander in power armour (first 45 levels I'd only used it for that mission you receive it on, or to transport new suits home)
Power armour is OP. Using a T60f with jetpack. Not died since. Also like the ammo, once you start using it you find even more fusion cores. Not that I was short of them at approx 80 when I started, but even using them now I'm nearer 90.

Also someone had been watching the Batman film with Bane in when they designed one of the side dungeons :D

[Mr Mystery]

Well, I've got me a massive shipment of Drugs....all acquired through legitimate means.

I certainly didn't fire a Missile at them, and then Laser Pistol the survivors and those who helped me to atoms. Not me. Oh no. Totes Legits.....

Now, where does one go to sell off industrial quantities of drugs and that?

[Gotthammer]

Speaking of things looking more pleasant... Found a couple of mods, first one was "A Touch of Green" which adds some green to the grass and such on the ground. Other one added leaves to trees. It's a very different look from the blasted mess of the default game, but I think it's better. After all, the fruit plants and such tend to be green, and we've seen in plenty of areas that a nuclear incident (whether bomb or meltdown) doesn't actually decimate the ecosystem of an area permanently. With it having been 210 years since the bombs dropped, that's even more reason for nature to have corrected itself. It also adds a nice touch of "nature overrunning the ruins of mankind," which is a cool feeling for a post-apocalyptic world. I'll attach a screenshot to give an example.
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Ooh that's really pretty, might give it a go :)

[CoffeeGrunt]

Oooh, I like that, when I get my new PC that's going on it!

[eldargal]

Well, I've got me a massive shipment of Drugs....all acquired through legitimate means.

I certainly didn't fire a Missile at them, and then Laser Pistol the survivors and those who helped me to atoms. Not me. Oh no. Totes Legits.....

Now, where does one go to sell off industrial quantities of drugs and that?

I fenced mine in Diamond City mostly I think, also bunker Hill maybe. That was a fun mission, also nice to actually get a decent haul, hate quests which are like 'this haul will set us up for ever!' and then you get the equivalent of like 300 caps or something.

[Mr Mystery]

Apparently, Vault 81 is the place to flog Jet. 75 caps a bottle.....

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I didn't shoot her....

[Psychosplodge]

I really need to go to vault 81.

Don't forget you can make your own jet to trade like the purified water trade.

[Mr Mystery]

I've got something like 92 Jet in my inventory.

And that's before I've done over the Drug Factory.

I'm such a naughty Sole Survivor!

[Psychosplodge]

I need to go do the drugs factory.

[Mr Mystery]

Might do that tonight.

Big Si is meant to be coming over, but he's about as reliable as a Tory is honest.

[Kirsten]

I haven't found a drugs factory. I never have many drugs, I always sell them off for ammo

[Mr Mystery]

It's a mission you can access in Diamond City.

I killed everyone else involved, because nobody harshes my mellow by dragging me into their personal sob stories, and then demands half the earnings.

[Kirsten]

I thought as much.

[Mr Mystery]

The guy who get beaten up by the Barman in the posh bar?

Find him, find your mission.

[Psychosplodge]

It's a mission you can access in Diamond City.


Is it?. I found a scrap of paper on a raider saying theres a massive stash of drugs at such and such a location, and it added a mission under the miscellaneous tab for me.

[Mr Mystery]

Oh, fair enough.

I found it via Diamond City mission and interrogating the survivor of my well sneaky missile attack.

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And I know the password as a result :p

[Psychosplodge]

I cleared the Gwenit ale brewery yesterday. I thought it was kinda cool how one of the PCs had updates about other groups of raiders I'd wiped out elsewhere.

[Mr Mystery]

Nice.

I'm going to seek out Vault 81 tonight, then go become a Drugs Baron.

And Codsworth can shut it.

[Psychosplodge]

Oh I've found it, I've just ignored it.

[Erik Setzer]

Found a teddy sacrifice, and the "romantic" teddys about to ****, and another pair doing oral this weekend. :D

When I opened a locker and found two bears 69ing, I figured it wasn't just coincidental placement, given all the other bears set up everywhere. I've started taking screencaps of them as I come across them all.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah seen them as well, but I forgot to screen cap those. I have quite a random bear collection now.