Fallout 4

[Psychosplodge]

yeah i went up at least two if not three levels from just messing about scavenging and building.

I'm going to explore off quest first, but I don't want to **** it up like I did by triggering tranquility lane in 3.

[eldargal]

I just found a set of T-51 power armour in a trailer park I was looting on the way to someplace else. Love this game lol.

[Psychosplodge]

:eek:

Nice.

I think I'm going to go hunting for a rifle later. I've upgraded the 10mm to give some decent accuracy, rate of fire, and stopping power. But I need something for the wilderness.

[eldargal]

Not a fullset drat, missing the legs. Still I'm one leg short of two complete sets now.

Go with a pipe rifle, you should be able to get one from raiders and it uses the most abundant form of ammunition in the game (.38 or .45 or something I forget, but raiders use it a lot and they are easy to kill so usually end up getting more ammo thn you expend).

[Psychosplodge]

I think I've read about that set, there may be a paint scheme near it.

[eldargal]

I must have missed it, I'll head back and check in a bit.

[Psychosplodge]

It might not be that one I might be wrong. It just sounded familiar to something I'd seen under a pic of some red armour.

[eldargal]

Yep went over the whole trailer the armour was in again, no paint job. I did find a magazine with a flame paint job for power armour though so that was nifty.

I've also joined the Brotherhood of Steel.

[Psychosplodge]

I think thats how you get them, the magazines.

[Erik Setzer]

Pipe gun uses 38, I believe. I've had to rely on it because, even without having to shoot everything around, I go through too much ammo just trying to hit something. Knew it'd be rough going in, but didn't expect ammo to be as scarce as it is so far.

I didn't know you could collect sets of armor from various places, I'll have to check that out (and get my armor from Concord back to Sanctuary). I was wondering why I had a piece of T-45 in my bags...

[Wolfshade]

Splodgy, you missed a calling as an architect.

[Psychosplodge]

Sometimes the creative juices just flow.

http://i.imgur.com/fxlEvbr.jpg

So I expanded the original with individual sheds for settlers, a second wind turbine, five heavy machine gun turrets, a guard post and walkways to the two adjacent houses.

http://i.imgur.com/bqccl8b.jpg

Shed row

http://i.imgur.com/NPIBZ9e.jpg

Also thanks to EG and Erik for their electrickery help. I now have some lighting :D

I also built a basketball court on one of the derelict house bases (which idea I stole off tumblr)

[Psychosplodge]

I was also very happy with my rifle hunt.
I acquired a short barrelled stockless hunting rifle with no sights. I then modified it to have a long barrel, hardened receiver, proper stock, medium sights and a high capacity magazine. So I ended up with exactly what I went looking for :D

I've avoided the pipe weapons and .38 ammo. For now I'm looking at 10mm pistols and .308 rifles and having no issues with ammo with a single perk in that one finds ammo.

[Mr Mystery]

Not a fullset drat, missing the legs. Still I'm one leg short of two complete sets now.


Does your bomb look big in it?

Torn between this, and Battlefront later in the month.

[Psychosplodge]

Get this. Battlefront is just another FPS. Whereas this is a new fallout story bundled with post-apocalyptic home designer.

[Mr Mystery]

But....but I can fly an A-Wing again.

AN A-WING. The most fun thing to fly I've ever found.

Though I wonder if I could make a Fallout Character look like Devlin Waugh?

[Psychosplodge]

Just plug the gamecube back in and you can fly an A-wing.

[Mr Mystery]

Haven't got one.

[Psychosplodge]

Wii?

[Mr Mystery]

Non.

[Psychosplodge]

Still get fallout. :)

[Mr Mystery]

Might stretch to both. Build up the old library, what?

[Psychosplodge]

lols.

Tonight I'm planning on setting a glue farm up :D

[eldargal]

I've preordered Battlefront and honestly I'd get Fallout 4 over it, its fantastic.

My primary PA suit:
http://i.imgur.com/9tn3Nqo.jpg
My WIP bunker:
http://i.imgur.com/Rfjsxsg.jpg

Had a lot of fun experimenting with the building of things, have a nice wooden tower perched on one of the Sanctuary houses which is looking pretty nice. Started to trick out the upper room of my tower, the top two levels are now one room with a mezzanine gallery.
Still getting the hang og electricity, turns out the reason my switches didn't work is that they need to be connected to the power grid lol, but that takes copper which I'm now chronically short on.:rolleyes: Love, love crafting and construction in this game.

[Gotthammer]

That's some fancy looking armour :)

Finished the main questline. All the feels-uh. Just checked and I've racked up 37 hours already lol :p

Also my main settlement has eight peeps, 20 power, produces 21 food, 25 water, and has a defence of 80. Two sets of power armour, main one is mostly winterised and also has some Railroad paint, second is a BoS suit I... acquired >_>

Some pics:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/cfe5514001946f4c820033c32612e750/tumblr_nxpdnqPAoN1r3nwsxo3_1280.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/90fd606826318505caa5dcbd472d914a/tumblr_nxpdnqPAoN1r3nwsxo4_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/c334c123448b599dee36220032c4ec4f/tumblr_nxpdnqPAoN1r3nwsxo5_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/d0ad0dec3c7d416abf5edb2774712e70/tumblr_nxpdnqPAoN1r3nwsxo6_1280.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/aa62aac10eb14165a2ba0d760d8c1f46/tumblr_nxpdnqPAoN1r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Very nice.:)

Love the image of Piper side-eyeing the camera lol, ironic.:p

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Also my badassometer just dinged 10, punched a super mutant suicider in the face just as he triggered his mini-nuke and survived thanks to the glory that is power armour.

[Psychosplodge]

I plan on getting a good 18 hours in tonight/tomorrow. So I might be a little bit further than I am now.

[eldargal]

Good plan lol.

I now have 5 suits of power armour, one complete, one complete with a mismatched arm, a third missing a leg, one missing both legs and mismatched with raider arms and helmet and a bare chassis.

[Psychosplodge]

I've seen a bubblegum pink suit of power armour.
I think I need that one :D

[eldargal]

Me too.

Just got artillery support from the Minutemen, its so awesome.

[Psychosplodge]

:eek:

[Erik Setzer]

But....but I can fly an A-Wing again.

AN A-WING. The most fun thing to fly I've ever found.

Though I wonder if I could make a Fallout Character look like Devlin Waugh?

An A-Wing whose ANTI-SHIP MISSILES can't seem to hurt an AT-AT.

Battlefront's beta was fun, but showed some issues that helped me put FO4 ahead of it.

Also, if you can hold off, I'd get Battlefront when it drops in price, especially as at least half the content for the game is being withheld to sell you separately.

[Erik Setzer]

Still only got the one set of power armour, and one piece is broken, which is why it's in my inventory. But I'm only about 10 hours in, and I *just* got to Diamond City. I've been trying to manage my settlements and getting new ones. Cleared up a couple places along the way, agreed to join the Brotherhood (which might not hold up), helped a guy get a pump running to drain a place (wonder if I should check back in case they actually added a post-draining version of the area?)... Just going around helping, talking to people, stuff like that.

I do have to cheer again for the "Pacify" option, but now because I've found out it counts for clearing Raiders out of an area. The negative is that they "forget" they've surrendered if you step out of a building, for example, so I had to kill a couple people who'd initially surrendered after I stepped onto a roof and then back into the building. Still, it's nice not to kill everyone. Seems like a former soldier especially wouldn't be keen on doing more killing than necessary. Also pacified two of three super-mutants attacking one of my settlements, but unfortunately shot one and it re-aggro'd him. Love the "orders" found on his body, something like "Kill. Loot. Return."

It's also fun to see some of the tricks they do with enemies, though not as fun at the time. I.e. ghouls pretending to be dead and then attacking as you walk by. Or one time I saw a body in the corner of a room, approached, and the body flew away with a "legendary" rad-roach popping out. Shot him like crazy, he "mutated" and returned to full health, shot him a lot more, and he died and dropped a really sweet chest piece.

It's a really fun game. Sadly, tonight I have a pen-and-paper RPG session, and tomorrow I'll be heading out after work to camp out before doing Fallout LARPing, so my next opportunity to play will probably be Sunday (and Monday, if I can get it off to recover from Saturday).

[Psychosplodge]

Cool. I got some VATS enhanced pistol or something from the only legendary radroach I killed. The ambush ghouls had me head shortting corpses just to be sure.

[Erik Setzer]

Cool. I got some VATS enhanced pistol or something from the only legendary radroach I killed. The ambush ghouls had me head shortting corpses just to be sure.

I ended up doing the same. Saw a dead ghoul on a roof, shot it before I walked by it.

[eldargal]

Always take the fusion cores out of suits of power armour you aren't using, turns out settlers will steal suits as well not just raiders and gunners and so forth.>< Had to load an earlir save to get my main suit back, lost a few hours progress. Still not as bad as the guy who had his power armour stolen the used against him by a raider or something lol, found that delightful story while googling.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I think the only way this system could get better, is if there was a multiplayer component to it. Like, each of you builds a base, then you raid each other's bases for supplies. I'd love to see an Ocean's 11 style raid on a well-defended base, that'd be a tonne of fun.

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/a3766e9ece7962943d89091cf6246f36/tumblr_nxp4dtF3tX1qjm6tmo1_1280.png

[eldargal]

:-D

[CoffeeGrunt]

Huh, that's interesting.

[Mr Mystery]

Still undecided whether or not to get this.

Anyone playing it on PS4?

[eldargal]

Buy it!:p

I am now the proud ownder of nine Power Armour chassis' and three complete sets.

[Gotthammer]

Buy it!:p

+1


I am now the proud ownder of nine Power Armour chassis' and three complete sets.

I think you may have a slight problem. I suggest seeing a doctor to cure you of that addiction :p


Not even the apocalypse can stop FemShep:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/c0100252443ea563b520d429679352a3/tumblr_nxpnd5AIis1s5tfdeo1_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/6d0174ced7bc6857b9f897b9c5c0afa3/tumblr_nxpnd5AIis1s5tfdeo2_1280.jpg

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Also Dogmeat is a good dog indeed (http://ymirsbian.tumblr.com/post/133035799658/what-a-good-dog)

[eldargal]

I am a sl*t for power armour.:p

nice, reminds me of th Liara mod for FONV heh.

Oh wow, good dog lol.

[Gotthammer]

I am a sl*t for power armour.:p

nice, reminds me of th Liara mod for FONV heh.

Oh wow, good dog lol.

I know :p

Bethesda clearly recognised FemShep's power and made her a companion. Also a drunken Irishwoman but whatever that's kinda accurate too :p

Totes!

Also why can't I get this poster for my house:

http://i.imgur.com/9XyoDrd.jpg


And is Piper really a synth? She sure acts like the terminator:

http://giant.gfycat.com/SpottedUnlawfulChihuahua.gif

[eldargal]

I'd kill for that painting too.

Piper has survived over 5 nuclear detonations in my game.

[Gotthammer]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/4bace2e4b2ffbd4f390854ca27e5b90d/tumblr_nxpzz986tJ1rafseuo1_1280.jpg

So immersive...

[Erik Setzer]

Well, that seals it... I was thinking of using Piper as my companion of choice, but if she can survive a nuclear blast, that'll help a lot. Ditto for mines and other explosives, whether I set them off accidentally or try to blow someone else up (because I still can't hit worth spit, it seems... but I've got plenty of Charisma!).

[Gotthammer]

Biggest issue I've had with Piper is her walking off of ladders and gantries and breaking her legs. She's taken out basically everything else the wasteland can throw at her and is super adawble so well worth taking along.

Only negative in the game I can think of:


fallout 4
names that are voiced: Purkeypile, Quartermain, Toecutter, Sex, Katniss

unvoiced: any of the most common names in most non-European or North American countries

you can be named ******o, Asdf, or Assman but not Ahmed, Manuel, Fatima, Omar… like you can go down a list of the most popular names in most regions of the world and verrrrrry few of them are present (http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin)

[CoffeeGrunt]

Wonder if Fallout might release more as free DLC, though it'd be a big undertaking. Perhaps some better choice in names might have been helpful, but it's still a landmark in that they managed to voice 1000 names.

I suppose there's not much way they could have really solved the issue in its entirety, though I'd be curious to see how many names you'd cover if you got the top ten of most major countries and added them together, including regional variations like John, Juan and Jean. It'd be a bit unwieldy, which is probably why they had to limit it to traditional Western names, and a few gag ones.

Other problem might have been people mangling the pronunciation of unfamiliar names, and the more names you add to the roster, the more it would highlight those that were overlooked. It's probably like browsing those named coffee mugs or keyrings you get in gift shops, and realising they have a very, very small roster of names on them.

[Erik Setzer]

That's probably why Mass Effect and Dragon Age went with the characters' last names, so you could choose any first name and not have a problem. There's so many names to record, it's surprising they did as many as they did, even with all the fake ones.

Madden NFL used to have player names and team names recorded so they could say, for example, "Ismail runs in for the touchdown!" But they just stopped doing either. Not the commentary is so generic (and not always accurate, but that's a different point) that it sounds like the guys in the booth don't even know which teams are playing, much less who any of the players are, or what's going on down on the field.

What does the robot say when your name isn't listed?

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Wonder how the names are handled in translated versions? Might offer insight into which names were omitted from the list.

Not a perfect excuse, I know.

[Kirsten]

I heard there were voiced name options, but no idea where they are as it were. I typed in my name, didn't see a list or anything. surprised by the lack of options for character creation too. enjoying it, though it is different enough to previous ones to take some getting used to even if you are a veteran, and it throws so much at you without bothering to explain anything.

[Gotthammer]

I guess part of it is that they have six synonyms for breasts in there you know? Like it sends a kinda crappy message about priorities.


What does the robot say when your name isn't listed?

Just Ma'am for women and I think Sir? Something like that at least.


Also if you give Dogmeat a teddy bear:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/8abd611616d60fc3f1fa50b8d6425148/tumblr_nxrh334LhO1qfmwdio1_r3_400.gif http://49.media.tumblr.com/2cd32dfca5ddddf085c2cb8a58dcfd94/tumblr_nxrh334LhO1qfmwdio2_r3_400.gif

[Morgrim]

He's got doggles!

[Kirsten]

lol

[eldargal]

Codsworth calls me 'mum'.

Dogmeat is adawbs. Not as adawble as Piper and Curie though so he spends his time at Sanctuary in a lovely doghouse.

[Gotthammer]

Dogmeat is indeed adwawble. Also can do tricks and things, so cute :)

Also on Halloween and Christmas there are decorations and special dialogue about in Diamond city :)

Also:

http://41.media.tumblr.com/a0e4589685c3fa84485268124f896423/tumblr_nxowwrJxdl1s7392jo1_540.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/0abd0025b21a83ad7e690abaf4e36547/tumblr_nxowwrJxdl1s7392jo2_540.png

http://40.media.tumblr.com/b8d912095d9608f5cc77291c4cec32ea/tumblr_nxowwrJxdl1s7392jo3_540.png

http://36.media.tumblr.com/94c3c297b6dd791d7b8f95be0eeec41e/tumblr_nxowwrJxdl1s7392jo4_540.png

http://36.media.tumblr.com/6e4d71b3a20a3a44ef25d0290f6d99a3/tumblr_nxowwrJxdl1s7392jo5_540.png

D:

[Kirsten]

I need to send Dogmeat home, he keeps interfering with my stealthing

[Mr Mystery]

I need to send Dogmeat home, he keeps interfering with my stealthing

I HALP? Interfering, or 'chase everything and bark' interfering?

Both?

[eldargal]

http://i.imgur.com/tdktmu9.jpg
Found the pink paint set magazine.

[Gotthammer]

Ooh pretty :) Just found an X-01 suit with no legs but still, very fancy. Also my settlement's happiness keeps dropping which is possibly a bug where if you're not there their resources all drop to zero?

[eldargal]

Yup.:) Ooh nice, I haven't seen any X-01 yet, possibly I'm still too low level, saw talk that it only reliably appears at 40+. Oh that sucks.:(

[Gotthammer]

I'm only level 33 so seems that theory is a bit off. Also picked up a gauss rifle for maximum shootiness. Totes :(

[eldargal]

Oh good, that's the level I am lol. Oooh nice. Hopefully it willget patched soon, Bethesda are good like that usually. Actually FO4 has been remarkly stable compared to Skyrim, I've had a few glitches but nothing serious.

[Kirsten]

enjoying it so far, though the radio is a massive let down. still insanely repetitive and with the same damn songs from 3 which I was already sick of. still have no idea how to power anything either, how the hell do you connect generators to anything?

[Aegwymourn]

Ooh pretty :) Just found an X-01 suit with no legs but still, very fancy. Also my settlement's happiness keeps dropping which is possibly a bug where if you're not there their resources all drop to zero?

Found some hapiness bugs have to do with fast traveling out of towns. Was looking at happiness stuff and popped up.

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Oh good, that's the level I am lol. Oooh nice. Hopefully it willget patched soon, Bethesda are good like that usually. Actually FO4 has been remarkly stable compared to Skyrim, I've had a few glitches but nothing serious.

The worst glitch I've had is occasionally my pipboy/weapon decide they want to be invisible. Just have to quit to main menu though.

[Erik Setzer]

enjoying it so far, though the radio is a massive let down. still insanely repetitive and with the same damn songs from 3 which I was already sick of. still have no idea how to power anything either, how the hell do you connect generators to anything?

You have to connect wires. Hover your cursor over an item that needs power and you should have an option at the bottom for "Connect Wire" (on an XBox controller, which I use for my PC, you press Y). Then just drag the wire to the generator and press another button to confirm (A on the controller).

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I also like that Piper likes me helping people and stealing stuff.

[Kirsten]

ok I will give it a go

[Gotthammer]

Just ran into the Vault-tec rep from the start of the game again. Asked him to come live at Sanctuary and he was so happy :)

[Psychosplodge]

I think the only way this system could get better, is if there was a multiplayer component to it. Like, each of you builds a base, then you raid each other's bases for supplies. I'd love to see an Ocean's 11 style raid on a well-defended base, that'd be a tonne of fun.

Heresy! I really really don't want them to start tacking some sort of multiplayer onto it.




Still undecided whether or not to get this.

Anyone playing it on PS4?

The SO is. I've yet to hear her complain of any bugs, and having watched her on it Saturday while its obviously not as shiney as the PC version, and there was moments of noticeable slowdown it looks perfectly playable. Its certainly not the buggy broken mess both 3 and new vegas were.


Oh good, that's the level I am lol. Oooh nice. Hopefully it willget patched soon, Bethesda are good like that usually. Actually FO4 has been remarkly stable compared to Skyrim, I've had a few glitches but nothing serious.

I've had nothing too major, worst is probably that when using the pipboy app it randomly breaks the tab button, apart from that I've had a texture issue once or twice when walking on some raised highways where they don't load properly and I fall through holes I can't see, and I've had a rad scorpion burst out the floor and fly off - but that might be broken dogmeat physics as he attacked it instantly. And a single crash to desktop. Compared to what I remember of fallout 3 where it might crash every time I went through a door its a vast improvement.


Buy it!:p

I am now the proud owner of nine Power Armour chassis' and three complete sets.

I just found my second frame next to a crashed vertibird. It had two pieces of T45 on it, but I swapped them out for the three pieces of T51 I had.

Starting to see some of these comically posed teddy bears now I know to look for them :D

[Gotthammer]

Found some hapiness bugs have to do with fast traveling out of towns. Was looking at happiness stuff and popped up.

Thinking of this tried walking down to the Red Rocket and fast travelling - seems to have fixed the issue :)


Also found a complete X-01 suit, also visited the Atom Cats* and now have a complete T-51 suit in Railroad colours. Need to stock up on adhesive, aluminium and ceramic to upgrade them.

Also fighting through Quincy suuuuucked, gunners everywhere, including two in power armour and another with a missile launcher and fatman up high on the overpass >.<


* The Atom Cats are hilarious guys and gals in hot-rodder power armour who leave tapes of beat poetry lying around and one quest from them has you helping people with fantastic dialogue:

Farmer: So are you from the Atom Cats?

Me: Meee-ow!

Farmer: ... I'm going to assume that's a yes...

[eldargal]

I need to track down the Atom Cats and join them.:p I think the game would be worth the price of admission just to hear Courtenay Taylor say 'meee-ow' to be honest.

I have now officially lost track of how many power armour frames I have, last count was 15. 3 complete T-45, 2 T-60, 1 Raider, 1 Raider II, one T-51 missing a leg and a heap of fragmentary T-45s, T-51s and a T-60.

[Psychosplodge]

oh dear.

Were the gunners ever peaceful towards the player character? I sniped one from a distance as it looked like a raider so they've always been aggressive towards me.

[Gotthammer]

Totes worth it hehe :p

That's a lot - and the Atom Cats sell T-45/51/60 parts so you can complete them all ;)

Also:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/617ee8c5f8270ea7a21cf1419074ac6f/tumblr_nxqnkhGARs1ructqvo1_500.png

http://40.media.tumblr.com/1b3b9633f06145c8a4bf0acecdd14d87/tumblr_nxqfb2zOWn1ukwhcfo1_1280.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/5fdf44a6b88e21f9868a8a5e5989c579/tumblr_nxq2m42Esj1ukwhcfo1_1280.png

http://49.media.tumblr.com/76463709fa866bdce8d6aa412e55a7f7/tumblr_nxucvqxMq61qc2jbwo1_500.gif

http://31.media.tumblr.com/71a12fb20ca4bcb284ef90d0397a6202/tumblr_nxucvqxMq61qc2jbwo2_500.gif

http://33.media.tumblr.com/8d2cdb892ea4da74858dc7153838250d/tumblr_nxucvqxMq61qc2jbwo3_500.gif

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Were the gunners ever peaceful towards the player character? I sniped one from a distance as it looked like a raider so they've always been aggressive towards me.

I don't think so, they started shooting at me first. They're like Talon Company I guess.

[Psychosplodge]

That's a lot - and the Atom Cats sell T-45/51/60 parts so you can complete them all ;)

That's handy.




https://40.media.tumblr.com/617ee8c5f8270ea7a21cf1419074ac6f/tumblr_nxqnkhGARs1ructqvo1_500.png


lols.

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I don't think so, they started shooting at me first. They're like Talon Company I guess.

Ah, basically a more organised/heavily armed merc type of raider.

[eldargal]

Yup Gunners are permanently hostile.

Piper is such a spoilsport.><

Definitely tracking down Atom Cats as a priority now heh. I'm going to have to build a bigger power armour bunker.

[Gotthammer]

Y]Piper is such a spoilsport.><

lol :p


I'm going to have to build a bigger power armour bunker.

I'm currently picturing your town as being 50% bunker at this point :p


Also:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/dee2770f32dc67cbe0bbc2749c4f5dd6/tumblr_nxrw63Hpc81svnbhro1_1280.png

https://40.media.tumblr.com/1a346a4a5e8a8cb3a1253ca2d44cef81/tumblr_nxrw63Hpc81svnbhro2_1280.png

https://40.media.tumblr.com/65f7e1ea34b8073a0e8c555c33c2d22a/tumblr_nxrw63Hpc81svnbhro3_1280.png

https://40.media.tumblr.com/7746f0b7b8f1d71031bae93cbb118fdd/tumblr_nxrw63Hpc81svnbhro4_1280.png

https://41.media.tumblr.com/e8f714822a484e01841e1474625142a4/tumblr_nxrw63Hpc81svnbhro5_1280.png

[eldargal]

;)

Not yet lol, bunker is way too small, though if you count the big barracks bunker then yes.:p

Oh my gosh that is perfect lol.

[eldargal]

http://i.imgur.com/yvtH0xo.jpg
Not pictured: Hot Pink T-60d set and Minuteman T-45c set.

[Psychosplodge]

I like the legion of the damned style flames on the left.

[eldargal]

That's the Atom Cats set I stole moments before taking the screenshot hehe.:) It is very pretty.

[CoffeeGrunt]

You could very realistically build your own Sisterhood of Steel now. :P

[eldargal]

I definitely have more suits than anyone but the BoS yup lol. Atom Cats have 3-4 not including the two frames I just stole...

[CoffeeGrunt]

Can companions pilot them? I'd love a settlement, or at least a small strike force, of power-armoured badasses.

[Gotthammer]

They can, may need to select the companion and command them to enter the suit.

[eldargal]

Some people have had problems getting them out again too.

just found another power armour frame, this time with a partial X-01 suit so yay. Don't now where I'll get extra bits for it though.><

[Gotthammer]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/7e5fefd721cb70f34447189a294f9bdb/tumblr_nxoer8YnC21qfwgd8o1_500.png


Don’t tell me how to live my life.


Even FO4 is kinkshaming now

[Kirsten]

hehehehehe

I am not reading this thread because I don't want to know. I will say the double barrel shotgun sounds absolutely amazing though. one of the best weapon sounds in any shooter I have played. slightly odd that it stands out so much over the other weapons.

[Psychosplodge]

my babies

https://40.media.tumblr.com/41624e92d4a2faccec41ce2e3b5d230b/tumblr_nxxn5vzV0f1rby7x1o1_1280.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/9de4c5490be6e6a9bf15a3a618649302/tumblr_nxxn5vzV0f1rby7x1o2_1280.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/ef881afb671f2a2e3ae9d64d7cd747b8/tumblr_nxxn5vzV0f1rby7x1o3_1280.jpg

And my collection of power armour

https://41.media.tumblr.com/e4ff8063c309e84af13b2ec5d60b0c1a/tumblr_nxxn9h3o6S1rby7x1o1_1280.jpg

for some reason right legs seem in short supply.

[CoffeeGrunt]

'Trigger's Broom,' made me laugh, classic episode.

[Psychosplodge]

Seemed appropriate as literally everything has been changed :D

[Gotthammer]

Only three guns? So few! :p

Also my Sole Survivor Karen:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/de41d9726f67701ef96e8e7a22840bbd/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo2_1280.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/d81fb8bccf32e7f7dfda0a6ba8446044/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo3_1280.jpg

In the first one she's discussing killing raiders, in the second buying duct tape. The raiders were dug in at a quarry, and there were a lot of them including one in power armour. No biggie, except that as things were really heating up a vertibird started circling overhead shooting lasers and missiles. Blew it up and it rained flaming Gunners. Whose idea was it to give those *ssholes vertibirds >.< Also the quarry was haunted and full of ghouls.

Meanwhile at sanctuary Buddy the beer brewing protectron was a big hit:

http://41.media.tumblr.com/69b85fad855bba31aad9b533296ffb46/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo1_1280.jpg


I think the place is well defended >_>

http://40.media.tumblr.com/4cc423dd095ff3fcb820c4d59bd5761f/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo6_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/5d3a499e8ad70d55e109afa8d4986ad7/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo4_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/0cb6d78639fc8af2cf35084457ad3b2d/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo7_1280.jpg


My complete Power Armour collection:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/6f40a0ba4b96acb65ad4453f0c7e2193/tumblr_nxyhneiK9J1r3nwsxo5_1280.jpg


The T-60 is only mk2, the T-45 has a T-51 chestpiece I got from a quest, the full T-51 is all mk d or E, and the X-01 is all Mk5 with explosive shielding on all parts.

[Psychosplodge]

I have a floor safe (to right of armour frame) that has things like my missile launcher, fatman, combat rifle, legendaries, shotgun and laser rifle. But these three are all different ammo types, with a mixture of ranges, damage types, and rate of fire. They've worked for me so far. I only started using the laser pistol after meeting my first assaultron.

That sounds an impressive collection. I'll be more impressed when I catch up and appreciate the effort required :D

[CoffeeGrunt]

I see Piper's pretty popular as a companion. :P

[Psychosplodge]

Not met her yet. I'm mostly using the dog cause he doesn't care what I do.

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I lol'd (http://tallymarx.tumblr.com/post/133227094167/ponnor-kenwei-beautiful)

[Gotthammer]

I have a floor safe (to right of armour frame) that has things like my missile launcher, fatman, combat rifle, legendaries, shotgun and laser rifle. But these three are all different ammo types, with a mixture of ranges, damage types, and rate of fire. They've worked for me so far. I only started using the laser pistol after meeting my first assaultron.

That sounds an impressive collection. I'll be more impressed when I catch up and appreciate the effort required :D

But why not carry them at all times in case you need them? :p

I carry six guns on me usually - laser rifle, scoped .308, combat rifle, 10mm pistol, shotgun and gauss rifle.



I see Piper's pretty popular as a companion. :P

She is so adawble is why ;) But so is Curie, and Cait too :p

[Psychosplodge]

Because that's about 15kg of extra scavanging :D

[Kirsten]

the 10mm pistol is bloody amazing, single headshot to kill raiders. I have been sniping outdoor enemies at a distance, then going in to places and using the pistol to clear them out

[Mr Mystery]

my babies



for some reason right legs seem in short supply.


Maybe you should try.....the second hand shop

No....wait. That doesn't work.

[Psychosplodge]

And the gunslinger perk...

[Kirsten]

I only have one point in that so far, been upping my charisma, intelligence etc. to get science, gun nut, and the leader perk for my settlement

[Psychosplodge]

They're cobbled together from second hand junk in the wasteland, bolted to an original weapon :D

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I went gunslinger x2, the rifle equivalent x3, intelligence up to 6, sneak x3, armourer/gun nut x2, science 1, and now working on charisma to get the leader perks and open shops :D

[Kirsten]

I am nowhere near that far, only around ten hours. level 11 I think

[Psychosplodge]

I've only been exploring, not questing, certainly not on the main story line. I'm level 21 I think, and that's from wandering, crafting(cooking) and building.

[Kirsten]

I am doing the side quests like clearing out settlements. always on the hunt for copper too

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah copper is a pain in the arse to find

[Kirsten]

yeah there is nothing obviously made of copper in the game so far.

[eldargal]

yeah there is nothing obviously made of copper in the game so far.

Fuses, lamps, telephones and power conduits are good sources for it. Lightbulbs too.

[Aegwymourn]

I've been leveling without to many perks into the building buying stuff. At level 24 now and starting to put points into them. So far I've been melee'ing my way across the wastes. I have enough fusion cores now that in any combat situation I'm rolling with my brotherhood powerarmour. Still haven't finished the main quest line (Veridium wastes is the step?). Think my settlement is bugged for happiness though. Was down to 65 from 80 the previous night. No real changes. Fast traveled there and immediately started going up. Tried leaving town before fast travel, nothing.

[eldargal]

I get most use out of my .45 rifle, tend to miss a lot with pistols and shotguns and also underutilising VATS. I was wondering why I bothered carrying around a legendary minigun I never used when I could use the weight for crap, but then I got ambushed by like 30 ferals clearing out a settlement down south and the minigun earnt its keep lol. Backed down an alley while they ghouls ran in after me, 600+ rounds later 30 dead ferals including two legendary.

Also I got quite a surprise when I went to offload a heap of stuff into Curie and found her inventory was full, she seems to be a bit of a klepto:
http://i.imgur.com/XUCQAYA.jpg
all stuff she looted on her own.

Power armour count now 20, including a full suit of X-01 and a half suit:
http://i.imgur.com/6bzSUZz.jpg

New PA bunker has been constructed and illuminated:
http://i.imgur.com/U7xaMLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Jr9noab.jpg
Put in a couple of ceiling fans with lights in the middle so its not quite so dim. Going to shift my PA docking bays in and then the suits and chests and such. Really happy with how it came out, second floor is floating slightly because I was experimenting with laying floors on roofs and then removed the roof to make it one big room and couldn't be bothered taking all the walls and floors out to fix up. Still can't get light switches to work but I can at least wire stuff up nicely.

[Gotthammer]

Also I got quite a surprise when I went to offload a heap of stuff into Curie and found her inventory was full, she seems to be a bit of a klepto:


all stuff she looted on her own.

http://www.mst.edu/media/universityadvancement/www/images/doge/2014_doge3_gateway_feature.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

:confused:

[CoffeeGrunt]

I think Gott's referring to Curie's quote in your pic. :P

[Psychosplodge]

It's alright, its fixed, I was apparently filling in for EG

[Gotthammer]

Was quoting EG, accidentally cut off what I was replying to 'splodge:


certainly not on the main story line.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/52b9f2a93ec615b6a4c90c2b12c80330/tumblr_inline_nxulog5czN1rp71ft_540.png

[Psychosplodge]

lols.

[eldargal]

Got my lightswitch to work *flails ecstatically* Turns out it is as simple as having all the wiring going to a buildings conduits going to the switch and the switch being linked to the power grid, I had a wire running to a conduit to the power grid as well which was screwing all the things up.

[Gotthammer]

I just leave the lights on all the time. I mean the apocalypse has already happened, global warming is not really high on the list of things to worry about :p

[eldargal]

I'm not that fussed about it either, its more a matter of getting to understand how the systems work than anything else.:)

[CoffeeGrunt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyrg1DaZ9ow

[Psychosplodge]

Apparently the scavenger tables provide junk items as well. Maybe a couple of those would help with a copper shortage?

[Aegwymourn]

Apparently the scavenger tables provide junk items as well. Maybe a couple of those would help with a copper shortage?

Any thoughts on how those work? I have one but no idea if the guy on it is actually doing anything?

For copper I find looking for lamps/bulbs/phones? to be the best thing to keep an eye out for. Same thing with desk fans for gears/screws. I was walking by a lot of both before I realized what they were for.

[Erik Setzer]

Just ran into the Vault-tec rep from the start of the game again. Asked him to come live at Sanctuary and he was so happy :)

Yeah, that was a pretty emotional moment. Kind of disappointed he was just called "Vault-Tec," though. And when I went to Sanctuary and walked up to him, he was so joyous about it. That was a nice touch.

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Also the quarry was haunted and full of ghouls.

Sounds like Dunwich Borers. I didn't even think of the "Dunwich Horror" connection before waltzing in to explore the place. Raiders on the outside, ferals all over the inside (who wake up when you flip a circuit breaker to turn on lights). But the creepiest thing is the flashbacks, especially the last one you see (and it's worth diving in the water in the room after the last flashback). Read the memos, listen to the holotapes, pay attention to the flashbacks, and it's a very messed up story.

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I see Piper's pretty popular as a companion. :P

So far, and I'm not remembering names at the moment, I have Codsworth, Dogmeat, Valentine, Piper, Garvey, Danse, and just got Cait. Piper is the most fun to run with because I'm actually doing good things and helping people, but also not above picking locks and stuff like that, and she likes those things. I might try using Cait more in my second play-through where I'll see what it's like to just be a no-nonsense tough guy.

My friend likes running with Valentine, but probably because he's really into 40s and 50s stuff (loves the music from Fallout) and Valentine does the pulp detective thing all the time. Though that does mean he's running around with a non-romance companion. (I'm sure he'll just headcanon something in there.)

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I only have one point in that so far, been upping my charisma, intelligence etc. to get science, gun nut, and the leader perk for my settlement

Max Charisma is worth it for all the options you can succeed at in conversations. You can ask for lots more caps and get it. You can also talk down situations, or get people to believe you didn't kill someone you totally did kill.

[Psychosplodge]

Any thoughts on how those work? I have one but no idea if the guy on it is actually doing anything?

For copper I find looking for lamps/bulbs/phones? to be the best thing to keep an eye out for. Same thing with desk fans for gears/screws. I was walking by a lot of both before I realized what they were for.


I think you just assign someone to it and stuff starts appearing in the workshops junk panel every couple of game days or so. Yeah i know where to find it its actually seeing the items. It's getting better, but I was really struggling when i first started building.

So I leveled up last night to the point where I got my charisma to 6 and got the local leader perk. Which makes building settlements so much easier. So after that I spent an hour or so tweaking some bases. As I'd not been back most had too many people, not enough food/water/beds/defence. But I have three adhesive farms now, with spare people on towers or scavenging.

[Kirsten]

I got local leader last night and was very pleased, then found you need rank 2 for all the shops.

I thought for a moment I had had an awesome idea, as I was carrying masses of ammo I don't use, I could scrap it all for metal. but you can't scrap ammo annoyingly.

[Psychosplodge]

No, but you can use it to offset the cost of a delivery of raw materials. 25 oil only costs 100 water or 800 .38 bullets :D

[Kirsten]

doesn't seem worth it

[Psychosplodge]

Yes but I've got Sanctuary producing about 130 bottles of purified every day or so.

[Kirsten]

that is good going. I built a big water purifier there, got a water rating of 46 for 5 people...

[Psychosplodge]

I've 180 total water output there. at least two of the medium size ones, then the really big ones.
Apparently the drive in is another good spot to farm water for profit. But then you need the oil to make turrets to defend it.

[Kirsten]

the drive in with the irradiated pool in the middle?

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah, scrapping the barrels and cars removes the radiation apparently.

[Kirsten]

I scrapped the cars, didn't know you could do the barrels in the water.

[Gotthammer]

Yeah, that was a pretty emotional moment. Kind of disappointed he was just called "Vault-Tec," though. And when I went to Sanctuary and walked up to him, he was so joyous about it. That was a nice touch.

Only shame is you can't get him his steak knives.



Sounds like Dunwich Borers. I didn't even think of the "Dunwich Horror" connection before waltzing in to explore the place.

Yup, that's the one. Didn't realise either, but like they linked it back to the Dunwich building in FO3.



Max Charisma is worth it for all the options you can succeed at in conversations. You can ask for lots more caps and get it. You can also talk down situations, or get people to believe you didn't kill someone you totally did kill.

Yep, didn't find too many of the perks that useful, but passing the skill checks is well worth it.

[Psychosplodge]

I scrapped the cars, didn't know you could do the barrels in the water.

I haven't started building on it yet. But it's my planned next expansion once I've finished running round existing settlements linking them to sanctuary and tweaking their set-up with the added resources.
After that I'll be setting water up at the boat house. I'm moving into water trading :D

found another posed teddy bear last night. They make me smile everytime.
Also found a lethal weapon reference on one of the police computers :D

[Kirsten]

even though I am only level 11 I have about five happy settlements so far. I wish the fence placement was better, I put wire fence right the way round sanctuary, with two guard posts and a heavy machine gun at the bridge. it took ages, and some of the wire disappears in to the ground, but it looks good in most places.

[Psychosplodge]

I filled the gaps in the hedges, left the road to the east open but heavily turreted, and allowed the wall to the south to be a natural barrier, but with guard posts and turrets. I've got four or five minor farms with two or three people there that I've not touched. I wrongly assumed a limited number of beds would limit settler numbers, found I was wrong when I turned up at the north eastern radio tower settlement to find 9 settlers trying to share 3 beds. So had to expand that. I think I even did fairly well at keeping it in the style of the settlement.
So then I had to go to the place south west of sanctuary that's like a holiday cabin place as I knew that'd be the same...

[Kirsten]

what I want to know is how you stop them wandering in to your house. always in Fallout you can't sleep in other people's beds, but they can wander in and out of your house. I went home and the crazy drug lady was sat on my sofa. I might have to shoot her to send a message, maybe a frag mine in the doorway.

it is frustrating that you can't fit a door in every doorway too, or patch holes in windows etc. there is hardly a waterproof house anywhere in the game. you would think copper would be plentiful too in the post apocalypse, you ought to be able to go round ripping it out of walls and overhead lines.

[Psychosplodge]

Once you build her her chair I've not seen her leave it. The only way I've found to stop them sleeping in my bed is to assign them their own, but that doesn't stop them wandering in the house, stealing my booze (****ing moonshine I'd had to fight two mirelurk hunters to procure) and knocking my bear collection off my settee.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah the door thing is annoying me, I hope they patch it. Also the lack of ability to properly patch sloped roofs.

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Maybe a lockable door as well so you have the key and they can't get in your house then.

[Kirsten]

it is the one problem I have with a lot of post apocalyptic styles. given that I can fashion wood, steel, concrete, glass etc. it is a bit silly building scrap shacks with holes in. there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to patch all the roads, repair all the houses etc. even if you were going for a more basic skill level in labourers, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to build timber houses in a wild west style.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah I've got about thirty hours under my belt now, and the bloke from the first group of settlers is still hammering the same panel on the same hole filled house.

[Kirsten]

it would be nice if you didn't have to tell them to do absolutely everything. one settler complained to me about a lack of food whilst literally standing next to a melon patch. there was swearing involved.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

...adding a lockable doors option and slightly more resource-heavy patched housing sounds like a pretty tempting/achievable mod to make. Might have a play at it myself once the mod kit's out.

[Psychosplodge]

share the nexus link if you get it working :)

[eldargal]

what I want to know is how you stop them wandering in to your house. always in Fallout you can't sleep in other people's beds, but they can wander in and out of your house. I went home and the crazy drug lady was sat on my sofa. I might have to shoot her to send a message, maybe a frag mine in the doorway.

it is frustrating that you can't fit a door in every doorway too, or patch holes in windows etc. there is hardly a waterproof house anywhere in the game. you would think copper would be plentiful too in the post apocalypse, you ought to be able to go round ripping it out of walls and overhead lines.

You can assign them to beds in the same way you can assign them to work resources.:) Funnily enough since I've been leaving Piper, who I romanced, at Sanctuary she sleeps in the double bed I put in my tower room lol, even though there are other more easily accessible non assigned beds.


it would be nice if you didn't have to tell them to do absolutely everything. one settler complained to me about a lack of food whilst literally standing next to a melon patch. there was swearing involved.
Unassigned workers scavenge for junk, and if you set up a supply line you can grow a heap of food in one location and not worry about wasting space and labour somewhere else growing it.:)


My new power armour bunker now with added power armour:
http://i.imgur.com/yd0IQhE.jpg

Made a little market hall where my old PA bunker used to be:
http://i.imgur.com/maD0Ofs.jpg

I hadn't thought of using water purifiers to make purified water to sell, I've been swigging the stuff lol.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

share the nexus link if you get it working :)Don't get your hopes up, still not 100% on if my comp can handle Fallout 4 - does Skyrim at Medium-High, but that's with a decent chunk of fiddling/optimization. Still, can always buy, test, and refund if it absolutely tanks.


You can assign them to beds in the same way you can assign them to work resources.:)

...

Unassigned workers scavenge for junk, and if you set up a supply line you can grow a heap of food in one location and not worry about wasting space and labour somewhere else growing it.:)Glad to hear there are tools to better manage the minions, even if they're not necessarily well-explained.

[eldargal]

It's not super intuitive, I'd really like a menu to show who is assigned to what, I think I accidentally shut down a couple of supply lines by assigning the workers running them to do other things. I'm sure there will be some excellent settlement quality of life mods given time, its a great system just a bit clunky in parts.

[Kirsten]

I am loving the game, but some of the fiddly stuff is dodgy. I haven't had any bugs yet on Xbox One, at least not obvious troublesome ones, but the instructions are useless. for ages I got a message in Sanctuary saying 'build something that needs power' when I had several already, then 'build something that generates power' at a point where I had three already, then just a vague 'connect them together'

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Well, that's Bethesda for you. Still, a major developer being so open to players tweaking the toys is always refreshing. And to be fair, Fallout 4 sounds relatively polished.

A question to everyone; what's decorating like? Is there some simple way to pick up and place a vase or human skull on, say, a stool, or is the player character still as painfully ham-handed as in the previous full-3d Elder Scrolls/Fallouts?

[Kirsten]

painfully ham handed. I did put several kitten pictures in my house though.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

painfully ham handed. I did put several kitten pictures in my house though.Dang. Was hoping the "hanging pictures" option was a sign of having some sort of snap-to-grid for decorating. I never really feel like the hero of the land when I accidentally pick up a bowl and send a dozen apples bouncing all over my house, with no hope of being replaced.

[Kirsten]

the paintings snap to, they just don't necessarily snap to where you are looking, or anywhere you would actually want to hang a picture...

select the painting, look at the will, it sticks right to it, simple. what do you mean you don't want to hang it six inches above the skirting board? of course you do. nah, you don't want to put it on that big stretch of empty wall, you want to put it on the wall to your right, and six inches behind you. haha just kidding, here, let me stick it to your face so you can't see where you are going.

[Psychosplodge]

I've been trying to dress settlers accordingly so I know what they're supposed to be doing. not been consistent enough though cause it depends what you find.

I think the one you assign to supply routes changes to "provisioner" or something similar.

[eldargal]

I've been trying to dress settlers accordingly so I know what they're supposed to be doing. not been consistent enough though cause it depends what you find.

I think the one you assign to supply routes changes to "provisioner" or something similar.

That's a good idea, time to kill some people who look like farmers and so forth then steal their clothes to make my settlers look like farmers and so forth.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

the paintings snap to, they just don't necessarily snap to where you are looking, or anywhere you would actually want to hang a picture...Despite the Bethesda-iness of the system, the fact that you can put the pictures pretty much anywhere on the wall rather than being restricted to "picture slots" sounds fairly useful.

Modding in large sheets of wood/aluminum the game treats as cat pictures would let the player patch their buildings by hand...

Suppose that wouldn't help with the roof, though.

[Psychosplodge]

Also just seen claims that large scale water farming makes you a target of vertibird raids. :eek:

[Kirsten]

they do get thirsty.

[Gotthammer]

My new power armour bunker now with added power armour:


Made a little market hall where my old PA bunker used to be:

This is glorious.

Also just upgraded my X-01 suit to be all mkVI parts now :)

Also also just went back to Sanctuary and got a random mission from Preston about a group of settlers in trouble at Sanctuary Hills... >_>

[eldargal]

Thanks.:)

Ooh nice, I need to put some more points in armourer befoire I can upgrade it that far I think.

I've had to do that like 4 times lol, on the brightside it has made raiders at a few nearby locations respawn along with all the junk lying around.

[Gotthammer]

Yup needs to be level four in the armourer skill and level one in science to get the top tier. Also not really worth upgrading to level V since you have to pay full cost to go from V to VI anyway.

Was quite annoying since my settlement is basically a fortress and half the peeps are heavily armed and armoured like these guys better all be in power armour :p

[eldargal]

Yep I think I have two points in armourer, so will save up afew perk point and get the rest at some point.

Made a few changes to my market:
http://i.imgur.com/hO3WRDt.jpg

[Erik Setzer]

Yep, didn't find too many of the perks that useful, but passing the skill checks is well worth it.

I got the first rank of each of the Pacify perks, those have been handy to stop some people in fights without burning ammo, and pacified people count for "clearing" a place. The only problem is that if you, say, step onto a roof and then back into a building, those people are no longer pacified, which is kind of annoying.

Oh, and Local Leader 1 and 2.

Otherwise, my perks have gone into lockpicking, hacking, mods for guns and armor, Science, Medic, and +5/10% damage with chance to explode enemy (at level 30 right now). I might not be able to shoot that well, but I can make a nasty gun and when it hits, it hits hard.

[Kirsten]

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[Erik Setzer]

I feel like I might be lacking a bit with my settlement building, but it's not bad. In Sanctuary Hills, I've got a couple buildings for people to sleep and lounge in (one of them was the original building, which I might dismantle and add to another), a small office in its own building, another building set up with a pool table (had to hunt down pool cues again), a dining table with chairs, wet bar (not stocked because I ran out of swear words trying to place bottles and glasses), some stools and other seating, and a small building just for me to sleep in (off to the side from the others). Also defenses and other stuff.

I went and scrapped everything, and even scrapped all of the stuff in my house... except Shaun's crib. I took that and placed it in the "rec room," in an easy to spot location, with a few toys placed in it, as a reminder to myself and everyone else what my primary mission was: getting Shaun back. Sure, I've spent weeks now running all over helping others, but I see that as building up resources to help that primary mission. And once I complete it, I can then dedicate myself to seriously building up all these points of light in the darkness.

Oh, and the relationship with Piper is easy to explain despite the dead husband (whose wedding ring I keep on my character, as another reminder): Here you are in this strange new world, trying to get a handle on everything in a dark new world, and there's someone willing to help you adjust, being a great friend, and eventually, well, that person starts to fill your "best friend" role, and it just goes from there. You mourn the dead, but life goes on, and really, would your deceased S.O. want you to spent life alone?

Have to give Fallout 4 kudos for making me actually think of my character's motivation for their actions so much.

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Yeah, that pretty much says it all. I saw a can of Fosters on the sidewalk today, and immediately pictured a box floating beside it with "Aluminum (1)". I scour every inch of every building I'm in to find stuff to take with me.

Also, amusingly, you can put together a building with the steel you get from dismantling just a few guns. That would be a funny conversation item: "Yes, this living room used to a minigun. The kitchen was a pair of pistols, and the den's an old combat rifle."

[CoffeeGrunt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_i6Ewj1cLk

[Erik Setzer]

That is hilarious. I like how the tone just got more and more mocking.

The "teabagging" at the end was a bit odd, though. I mean, this isn't Call of Duty or anything...

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

The "teabagging" at the end was a bit odd, though. I mean, this isn't Call of Duty or anything...Pah, we in Halo were grinding corpses for years before CoD happened.

[Psychosplodge]

So I made my settlers a bar, and they seem to love it.

http://i.imgur.com/tHHnBmE.jpg

And because you just want to keep fiddling I made it cosier, with walls and a couple of settees.

http://i.imgur.com/HFWti9n.jpg

I didn't take a pic of the final form but it's now covered in pictures as well. :D

Also got myself a nice little alien blaster last night as well.

[Kirsten]

got killed last night by a roaming gang of legendary feral ghouls. I hate ghouls. I took my revenge though. by killing some different, normal feral ghouls. that will show them...

[Psychosplodge]

Legendary ghouls normally only take a couple of shots so don't worry me, now legendary glowing ones or whatever they're called :eek:

[Kirsten]

I have killed some yeah, but these are not ordinary legendaries, they had names, moved faster, had armour, and trailed black smoke

[Psychosplodge]

Ok They sound scary as ****.
I'm still chuffed I found the alien blaster after I'd given up looking for it :D

[Kirsten]

they really were. half a dozen of them, I encountered them near Hyde Park, though I would guess they roam about as they weren't there on my first visit. I let rip with a minigun, killed none of them, and they closed the gap and killed me in about ten seconds.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah must do, I've been there at least twice and not run into them. Or they could be a random event, like the brotherhood patrols you'd see in fo3.

I think I've found the most contested street corner in the wasteland as well. Everytime I walk past it there's two or three factions fighting over it, and they appear to be literally any of them.

[Kirsten]

several times I have heard fire fights but not been able to get to them. a friend at work suggested I listen out for one on the way to diamond city as there is loads of loot where the fight is. I was right by the map symbol for it, and could hear a fight, and killed a few super mutants, but couldn't find the fighting anywhere

[Psychosplodge]

The one I keep fighting is in the suburbs between Oberland and hangmans.

Other thing last night, I had a failed mission message about an attack I failed to repel, when I never saw the original message about an attack ¬_¬

[Kirsten]

one thing that is annoying me is the fact that nothing shows up until they are cautious. I have a perception of 8 but still can't see anything, it is rubbish.

[eldargal]

The one I keep fighting is in the suburbs between Oberland and hangmans.

Other thing last night, I had a failed mission message about an attack I failed to repel, when I never saw the original message about an attack ¬_¬

That's happened to me too, but put in enough defenses and it doesn't seem to matter. Also settlers don't seem to be able to be killed so you won't lose any as far as I know.

Might have to steal your bar idea, not sure mine is getting much use in the market hall.

[Psychosplodge]

It really does feel like they've reigned perception back from previous games where you could see a supermutant two miles away.

I've not been, but the settler count has decreased one, so either one died or decided to **** off elsewhere? I think the defences were appropriate at that one, couple of turrets and towers for a couple of farmers.

I've not made a proper market yet. I put the medium armour shop in and was disappointed by the selection so waiting till I get the perk next level to make the biggest ones. Though I might be reaching the build limit in Sanctuary. Might make a retail park at Red Rocket.

[eldargal]

I installed a mod which removed build limits lol. But I'm also going to expand to Red Rocket, sent a settler there up from the Castle and used them to make a supply line to Sanctuary.

[Psychosplodge]

Not got the castle yet. Though seen a video on how to brick up the walls.

[eldargal]

Castle is worth it for the artillery, much fun. Take a .45 rifle and a lot of ammo though. also food and stimpaks.

[Psychosplodge]

I probably should make that trip.

[eldargal]

Its worth it. Found the/a Castle wall building video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvEPfZ7LbpE), can't believe I didn't think of that when I was using those blocks to make an elevated walled settlement elsewhere lol.

[Psychosplodge]

Not the same one but essentially the same idea.

[Kirsten]

I need to unlock more stuff for building

[eldargal]

There are some magazines which teach things like outdoor furniture and statues and stuff, but aside from that you start with all the plans for things. I'm hoping DLC has more variety of buildings. I wonder if underground buildings would be feasible.

[Kirsten]

I don't know about the PC version but on Xbox One you definitely don't start with everything. I can't build half the stuff I have seen on pics here or in that video for example. and I know I can build more now than I could at the beginning, and I haven't picked up any magazines.

[eldargal]

Weird.=/

[Kirsten]

those big blocks the guy put in the wall, I can't make those. I couldn't build sofas initially either, just kitchen chair type stuff

[Psychosplodge]

They don't look like that in the menu. Wood > floors > something foundation

[Kirsten]

no foundations. wish I did have them, would make life much easier.

I built a nice fortress thing on a plot at Sanctuary using pre-fab metal corners and walls, then the same again on top. but the wooden stairs aren't the right size, which is really annoying. then I have wooden battlements on top of that. might put the shop stalls on the ground floor, nice and safe.

[Psychosplodge]

I wish I could get the walls to stack properly without needing a floor piece between them.

[Kirsten]

so you can't make big empty halls? that's a shame.

[Psychosplodge]

I haven't been able to get the height, I suppose if you make it 4 large wide, and use the small floor piece as the filler you'd get a three wide centre bit, but you'd need the space to do it.

[Kirsten]

they need brick or concrete building options on top of wood and metal

[Psychosplodge]

I think in fact I'm going to make the drive in into a bar/restruant/retail park, producing water, and just feed it from elsewhere. See if I can get some of these level 4 shops.

[Kirsten]

I cleared the radiation barrels out of the drive in, was 80% irradiated by the time I finished :p

[Psychosplodge]

Is it as bad as that? I still haven't got round to it.

[Kirsten]

well I should have taken some Rad X first I suspect, but yeah it is bad. they aren't all in one place, so you have to move around a lot, and the last barrel I came to was significantly worse than the others.

[Erik Setzer]

Pah, we in Halo were grinding corpses for years before CoD happened.

Oh, yeah, I know that's where it started, but CoD is where the majority of kids dipping on downed opponents seems to be these days. (And swearing and insulting people's mothers and stuff like that.)

[Psychosplodge]

OMG (http://imgur.com/a/0NHde) :eek:

[Erik Setzer]

several times I have heard fire fights but not been able to get to them. a friend at work suggested I listen out for one on the way to diamond city as there is loads of loot where the fight is. I was right by the map symbol for it, and could hear a fight, and killed a few super mutants, but couldn't find the fighting anywhere

If I hear a fire fight and at any point hear a verti-bird, I just go the opposite direction, fast. Invariably some mini-nukes will be fired and it's likely the verti will go down as well. Went to take the Castle back and a verti was nuking close by, got shot down, and almost came down on me. Went to clear another place and I think the BoS were attacking at the same time, because they dropped a nuke close enough to blind me for a moment (I mean me, not the character... freaking white flash), and I only killed two or three super-mutants but found a lot more dead. I'm more paranoid about the BoS's indiscriminate use of nuclear weapons (isn't that what got us the messed-up world we're in?) than any roving army of raiders or Gunners.

[eldargal]

I guess the drive in doesn't have a height limit on builds then. Or not as low as Sanctuary.

Edit: wait that's not the drive though, where is that lol?

[Erik Setzer]

I wish I could get the walls to stack properly without needing a floor piece between them.

If you have the mats, in theory you can build the floor piece, then place the wall, then scrap the floor piece. Not sure you get a full return on mats (which is silly), but it's a way to build up.

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I think in fact I'm going to make the drive in into a bar/restruant/retail park, producing water, and just feed it from elsewhere. See if I can get some of these level 4 shops.

I want to do that eventually... I keep going back to actually doing missions and quests and stuff, but at some point I might set aside some time to do "proper" work on expanding places. That's the only lot that's large and empty, and it's pre-paved. I didn't think of it at first because I didn't know scrapping the barrels would remove the radiation and that was a huge problem, but not that all the scrap's gone, there's no radiation and plenty of space to build. It's also closer to town proper, if that makes any difference.

[Psychosplodge]

I guess the drive in doesn't have a height limit on builds then. Or not as low as Sanctuary.

Edit: wait that's not the drive though, where is that lol?

I've no idea :D

Its mostly suicidal supermutants using nukes trying to kill dogmeat for me. Or raiders randomly firing them off. Keep hearing the blasts as well/seeing distant flashes.

[Erik Setzer]

POSSIBLY SPOILERISH? (But probably not.)

Is is just me, or did the missile(s) aimed for Boston have really terrible aim?

I was wondering how the city was still in rather amazing shape for having been hit with a nuclear weapon (really, the detritus in the streets could occur naturally in an area where people haven't really been doing anything for a long time and looters have moved through). But then I ventured into the Glowing Sea (out of necessity), and *that* place looks more like an irradiated wasteland... especially when you come across what's likely ground zero. Meaning the missile/bomb intended for Boston actually missed the city proper and hit outside of town. Close enough for the radiation to move through town and kill or sicken (or, as the case might be with some, mutate) most of the population, but not really destroy the buildings.

And on a related note, I went up one building all the way to the roof... The quest I was on said to ride the elevator back down and out, but I decided to step out there anyway. Glad I did. If you can get a high point, you can really appreciate just how massive the city they put together is. It actually looks pretty good from up there, too. Makes me think that, with a couple of years, I could take the Minutemen army I'm building up and move through the town cleaning out the last remnants of trouble I haven't already dealt with, and re-establish a modern city. Sure, there's still that irradiated mess southwest of the city, but you set up some strong defenses around that part of the city until that problem can be dealt with more permanently. It's almost like there's hope for a better future...

[Psychosplodge]

Erik please put color="white" /color in [ ] [ ] around that so I don't accidently read it? :)

Thanks

[Erik Setzer]

Erik please put color="white" /color in [ ] [ ] around that so I don't accidently read it? :)

Thanks

Done.

I don't think it's really much of a spoiler (didn't mention anything about the story, just something that's probably notable just walking around), but might be for some folks.

There are bits of the story I just want to talk about and see if others have the same reaction, but it's hard to talk about them this early in. Perhaps in another couple weeks. :D

[Psychosplodge]

If it's questionable I don't want to risk it :D

While I'm reading a lot of building threads online I'm avoiding a lot of the wider stuff.

[Erik Setzer]

Fair enough. I like watching things like glitch videos and stuff, but sometimes it borders on spoiler territory. Even though I'm over 30 hours in and haven't spent a huge amount (though not a tiny amount, either) of time on settlements, I'm still maybe halfway through the main story (if that) and have a LOT of side quests, and haven't even explored whole areas of the map. I had to stop taking quests from a pair who give out unending quests just because I need to clear some out of my log (though later I'm totally going back and doing more, because the extra caps will help pay for more settlement stuff).

Have to say, the amount of stuff you can do in the game is impressive, and you can literally do an unending game, just by building and maintaining settlements, cleaning the streets, doing missions for people who have an unending series of them, and scavenging anything you can. I'm not even sure I'll get around to doing a second play through in the next month or so, I might still be playing this one!

[Kirsten]

I have just blown basically all my resources building a massive bar and trading centre in Sanctuary. trader stalls on the mezzanine (or will be, only got weapons so far) and a bar, tables, chairs, juke box, nuka cola machine, and pool table downstairs. now I just have to work out how to get the lights to work...

Security headquarters, opposite my house

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd380/KirstenIGMB/20151119_194050_zpsvy3tr31n.jpg (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/KirstenIGMB/media/20151119_194050_zpsvy3tr31n.jpg.html)

and the pub/trading station, before furniture

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd380/KirstenIGMB/20151119_194108_zpspepqch5w.jpg (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/KirstenIGMB/media/20151119_194108_zpspepqch5w.jpg.html)

[eldargal]

Very nice.:)

[Gotthammer]

All you people with your fancy buildings and there's me just dumping everything wherever there's space lol :p

Also have a second dog now, random guy offered to sell her to me so I said yes :)

[Kirsten]

it is pretty fancy, I will take another pic tonight with all the furniture, it is awesome

[Erik Setzer]

All you people with your fancy buildings and there's me just dumping everything wherever there's space lol :p

Also have a second dog now, random guy offered to sell her to me so I said yes :)

I ended up with a Brahmin that way...

[Kirsten]

do you ride it in to battle?

[Erik Setzer]

I haven't figured out how to do that. Or, really, anything with it. I doubt shooting it for the meat would work well, and I'd have spent all that money just for one Brahmin steak.

Maybe I should check my workshop stash to see if any Brahmin meat's been deposited in there.

[eldargal]

It may already have been mentioned, but the Scrapper perk is very useful. Lets you get extra materials when you scrap weapons and armour, including copper and so forth, then more rare materials in the second rank. Combine it and the travel while heavily encumbered and salvage runs become very lucrative.

[Gotthammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLfIC9njdfU

[Kirsten]

I really need to stop talking to Preston, he keeps sending me on the same missions. 23 hours in and I have done virtually no story missions, just set up settlements and responded to calls for help.

[Gotthammer]

Yup, just keeps generating radial quests like some of the NPCs in Skyrim. But as you go on in the story you'll get more people to give you more random missions so will have some variety :p

[Kirsten]

ok the Castle artillery is pretty fun...

[Psychosplodge]

I'm loving the artillery. Combined with high sneak, it can be a wonderfully fun way to start clearing a place. Is there a fixed number of shots or is it based on the artillery positions built?

I'd also massively under estimated my play time, last save is marked at 3days 6hours :eek: and I'm still only upto diamond city in the main quest, but level 38 and with about 190 locations discovered. Now upto 9 power armour frames, but most appear to be missing right legs. Only got two complete suits, the one you start with, and a Raider II one. Latest frame is being populated with pieces of T60 I took off a gunner, who thought he was a space marine and could run round with no helmet on :rolleyes:

Started building my market/bar/water place at the drive in. First time I've run out of steel. But it's going to be beautiful. Well functional anyway. Also all my settlements except one are now linked with supply lines, and I have two named characters working for me, which I think means I'll be able to assign them to appropriate shops to make them effectively "tier 4".

[Kirsten]

I have set up some supply lines between Sanctuary, the drive in, and Castle, and maybe one or two others, but I have no idea what it actually does. I assigned Sturgess to a weapon stall several times but he never stays there.

don't know about the artillery, I assume it is just limited by the marker grenades. I have run out of steel and wood whilst fortifying Castle, though it does look awesome now. need more copper for linking my laser turrets, and some oil for building artillery. I have artillery at the drive in and at hangmans alley now, so I would imagine I have pretty decent coverage. would be nice if it told you

[Gotthammer]

I have set up some supply lines between Sanctuary, the drive in, and Castle, and maybe one or two others, but I have no idea what it actually does. I assigned Sturgess to a weapon stall several times but he never stays there.

Supply lines mean you share the workbench inventory between linked locations. So you can harvest a bunch of steel from the drive in and link it to the castle and it'll be available at the castle (and if you link the castle to a farm the farm can use that steel also).

Yeah I've noticed the named people tend to wander around so are no good for shop stalls or guard posts.

[Psychosplodge]

Supply lines mean two things I think. Settlements can pull needed food and water from elsewhere so you don't necessarily have to farm there, and they pool your junk in all your connected workshops when it comes to building. At least that's what it feels like, because I've got the drive in connected a minor farm, which is connected to the radio outpost in the north east, and that is connected to sanctuary, and when I was building I had the ability to build a dozen missile turrets had I wished which means its certainly accessing sanctuary's workshop if not the entire networks. (I do all my scrapping at sanctuary).

I meant the number of rounds in a salvo. I'll have to count them, build a few more and then count them again :D

[Gotthammer]

I'll have to count them, build a few more and then count them again :D

http://media.giphy.com/media/xXXhLy1M4RML6/giphy.gif

And yes linked places share food and water, but I personally prefer having everyone self sufficient for that in case the the supply line person getting killed (also it doesn't show in the info bar I think?).

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah it just shows in green even when not enough rather than red, and I'd assume doesn't effect happiness negatively anymore. The only place I intend to use it like that is the drive in, and the castle. Every where else will have at least a field of muttfruit or two.

I'm assuming when they become "provisionors" as opposed to settlers they become invincible? So get back up again?

[Gotthammer]

The invincibility or not of settlers seems somewhat ambiguous. Like they can die - I tested it and I could kill them, and people have said their provisionors have died & the links disappeared (apparently common going to Spectacle Island as they can drown swimming out there maybe?). But also that during attacks people have said they just go down like a companion and get back up later but others have said they die.

So yeah, idk? :p

[Kirsten]

my settlers have all been invincible so far, you being able to kill them is probably intentional. I had a nasty attack by masses of legendary feral ghouls at the Castle. killed me a couple of times as standing in the doorway in power armour with a flamer did nothing at all. so third time I just built a small wooden fence in the doorway, and they couldn't get in. so everyone just stood on the walls taking potshots until they died...

I figured the settlements would share resources with supply lines, would explain how I have cleared out everything...

[Psychosplodge]

Maybe it's a difficulty setting thing? I mean mine supply lines are all run by people in full combat gear with powerful combat rifles. but I'm only playing on hard I think. Maybe on survival they die?

I've also ran into a a rather nasty random ghoul event at different ends of the map. There's about six-ten named ghouls with mr or mrs in the name, and they all seem faster and harder hitting. Still easy enough to put down, as long as you're stood in the right spot.

Had a nasty attack on Sunshine Tidings as well by synths. I just turned up, no message or anything, when about twenty synths turned up. Luckily the gate funnelled them nicely, and both previous attacks I've had there came from the east so there's a nice gauntlet of turrets to run to get to the gate.

[Kirsten]

the ghoul event is the one I mentioned the other day, very nasty. I was only like level 10, got flattened in seconds.

[Psychosplodge]

I thought it might have been.

I also found more amusingly posed bears :D

[Kirsten]

I am surprised by the scarcity of certain ammo types. I had quite a nice tactical assault rifle, but I ended up scrapping it because in 27 hours of gameplay I have found a grand total of about 20 5,56 rounds. no minigun ammo beyond where you find the miniguns either. I burned through all that killing ghouls, and have since found 3 5mm rounds, being sold by a trader.

[Psychosplodge]

drop a perk or two in the ammo scavenging one. I've found a couple of thousand of each probably, and used them like caps in trading. But they certainly haven't been as abundant as the 10mm and .308 and a lesser extent .45 I'm using.

Also get the lovers embrace perk before you build :D
I must have probably done a level just from that yesterday.

[Kirsten]

I have about 1600 .38 rounds, decent amount of 10mm, though I burn through it a lot as my 10mm pistol is amazing, and a 24 round magazine doesn't last long. .308 I use masses of for my hunting rifle, so I never have much of that.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah same, but I'm finding enough considering the amount I'm getting through. I used about 300 10mm just having a wander around in the south-west with no really aim, but I did have the 300 there to use, despite it being my main gun.

[Gotthammer]

Also find a lot of 5.56mm in destroyed MG turrets - 20ish in each if you're lucky. And later raiders, Gunners and sometimes super mutants start carrying assault rifles a lot. And found a fair bit of 5mm as I've levelled up (once ran into three super mutants who each had a minigun lol). Cricket who sometimes shows up at Bunker Hill usually has a bit, as does Kleo in Goodneighbour - but might be by level?

Would love to find more .308 so I could upgrade my combat rifle to the .308 chambering.

[Psychosplodge]

I normally see cricket outside Diamond city, but I haven't been to bunker hill I don't think.
Yeah turrets, I knew there was something that dropped it reliably.

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Idk if I'm finding it because I'm using it, because since I gave pipa a sub machine gun, I've started finding more .45 than I was before.

[Kirsten]

I only ever find four or five in a turret. it is quite a different beast to 3 and New Vegas really, certain things make much less of a difference than they used to. if I play again I wont bother much with perception. my brother put loads of points in to charisma but has so far found virtually no persuasion options, and is really struggling in combat. finding ammo seems to be a lot more dependent on the perk to do so.

[Gotthammer]

Yeah I find more ammo of the types I use so maybe it's designed to actually supply you with stuff you need more?

I put a lot in charisma, put it up to 8 and wear two boost items, and helped me a lot being able to pass the checks easily. Kept perception lower for a while as I was usually rolling with Piper and she has a 9 in it so could spot for me. Mostly buffed Agility and Intelligence at the start, more points in VATS and more XP.


http://36.media.tumblr.com/ccb47c9bf1d6f979c790bf635c8668cb/tumblr_ny12zxsldC1uu0aoao1_1280.jpg

[Kirsten]

my perception is 8 or 9 and it's a total waste, you can't spot anything. agility is 8 or 9 too, that is more useful.

[Gotthammer]

Yeah the only thing they've really gone backwards on is not showing hostiles if your're not at cautious or danger. But then again does make you pay more attention to your surroundings I suppose.

[Psychosplodge]

True. ****ing Rad scorpions.

[Kirsten]

it is a bit too busy to be able to see them though, especially if you are playing a light sneaky character, not being able to see enemies in advance is quite a handicap. if I start again at some point I will go for a pretty much baseline 5's across the board, doesn't seem to be much of an advantage in going above six for anything, the high level perks are nice but not amazing by the looks of them, all the stuff you really want is six or less.

[Psychosplodge]

I've had one Int check that needed a higher result than a 6 that I couldn't do at that time so had to do the fetch quest instead, I mean spamming intelligence helps with xp, but if there's only say one or two strength checks in the game would you bother?

[Kirsten]

yeah doesn't seem terribly worthwhile