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Bigred
04-06-2015, 12:13 PM
via Spikeybits (http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?21646-New-40k-Terrain-Pieces-out-of-left-field&p=228507#post228507) 4-5-2015


Look what the Bothan spies have brought us for this week, new terrain for 40k AND new Ad Mechs. Check it out.

Plasma Obliterator - Terrain $83
Promethium Relay Pipes Terrain $37
Adeptus Mechanicus Onager Dunecrawler $66

I wonder what the Plasma Obliterator will be?

Ancient Promethium Pipeline Rumors 8-4-2014 (http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/08/40k-rumors-promethium-pipelines.html)


"Promethium Pipeline Kit

Plastic Kit completed and "on ice"

Targeted for a holiday release

Just over a foot of pipeline, made up of:
- 2 long sections
- 2 short sections
- 2 elbows
- 5 pipeline stands/section connectors
- pipelines are Space Marine height
- long sections are wider in the center than the ends
- elbow sections can be assembled as either horizontal pipeline corners, or vertically, dissapearing into the ground."

via Brakkart (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?54667-New-40K-Terrain!&p=486781&viewfull=1#post486781) 4-7-2015


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via Haljin (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/640125.page) 4-7-2015

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via Captain Citadel (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?54667-New-40K-Terrain!&p=486813&viewfull=1#post486813) 4-8-2015

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Kirsten
04-06-2015, 12:49 PM
pipeline rumours again, makes me nostalgic

Erik Setzer
04-06-2015, 01:19 PM
A couple weeks after Easter, that's a "holiday release," right?

Defenestratus
04-06-2015, 01:55 PM
Damnit now I need to buy some of those pipelines.

DrBored
04-06-2015, 02:41 PM
The hints in the current WD with the Sicarians are:

'Eavy Metal
Building a Battleground
It Crawled from the Dunes

Obviously the last one is the Dunecrawler, the middle one is probably the pipeline and Plasma Obliterator, whatever that is.

Here's hoping they're not idiotic limited-to-100 resin kits :I

Also, nice to see that the Onager isn't super expensive considering the size of it. Besides the Ironstrider, everything else, Codex included, has been very reasonably priced.

Thaldin
04-06-2015, 03:25 PM
I just want a re-release of the damn void shield generator

Brakkart
04-06-2015, 03:33 PM
I just want a re-release of the damn void shield generator

You and me both! Still the relay pipes will be a nice addition to my scenery collection. I have to guess that the Plasma thing is another bit of the Wall of Martyrs collection.

Haighus
04-06-2015, 03:50 PM
I am slowly building a plan for a Ryza based Ad Mech force. That Plasma Obliterator sounds like it will be on the list...
...unless it is limited edition like the Void shield generator :/
Bring on the plasma! :)

Asymmetrical Xeno
04-06-2015, 05:02 PM
I will be dissapointed if the pipes don't have servo-skulls encrusted into them everywhere!

Arkhan Land
04-06-2015, 09:46 PM
this is fortuitously amidst my current project of expanding my gw-terrain kits, sick

Brakkart
04-07-2015, 02:19 PM
Pirate Phil over on Faeit212 posted up a link to a pic he spotted a while back which has what certainly look like Promethium Relay Pipes in it.

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Kirsten
04-07-2015, 02:19 PM
cool

Mr Mystery
04-07-2015, 02:33 PM
Couldn't find a goat this week, so have instead sacrificed a pair of stoats.

With any luck that will summon pics within 24 hours.

DanTheGameMan
04-07-2015, 02:37 PM
Couldn't find a goat this week, so have instead sacrificed a pair of stoats.

With any luck that will summon pics within 24 hours.


Lack of sleep and boredom at work, and I read that as "stouts".

That actually sounds like something I could do right about now.

Asymmetrical Xeno
04-07-2015, 02:48 PM
Couldn't find a goat this week, so have instead sacrificed a pair of stoats.

With any luck that will summon pics within 24 hours.

I read stoats as "Zoats" for a second...

Brakkart
04-07-2015, 03:07 PM
Your sacrifice of stoats is deemed acceptable Mr. Mystery if a tad odd (seriously, stoats?), here is a picture from this weeks White Dwarf:

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Pic credit goes to one Adam Jones on faeit. I'm rather liking the look of that Plasma thingy, it'll go nicely with my Aquila Strongpoint I'm thinking.

Kirsten
04-07-2015, 03:18 PM
pew pew

Haighus
04-07-2015, 03:29 PM
Flippin' heck, just noticed the Guardsmen in the Plasma Obliterator picture, that thing is bigger than I thought! Looks good :)

Brakkart
04-07-2015, 03:34 PM
Flippin' heck, just noticed the Guardsmen in the Plasma Obliterator picture, that thing is bigger than I thought! Looks good :)

Yeah, looks to be about the same size roughly as a Bastion and then has that whacking great cannon on top of it. It does look like it'll fit in with the existing Wall of Martyrs kits well enough.

Houghten
04-07-2015, 04:05 PM
pew pew

BEEYOW







Bit eagly though. I reckon I'm going to have to smash together a kustom mega-ablitterater...

Brakkart
04-07-2015, 04:37 PM
A bigger, but sadly blurrier (not sure if that's a word) of the Plasma Obliterator tower:

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Seems that the entire tower rotates on its base, rather than just the turret at the top of it. Might be wrong, but that's sure what it looks like to me. One things for sure, it is absolutely covered in detail and will likely be a swine to paint.

Haighus
04-07-2015, 05:15 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if that Plasma gun is big enough to convert a Stormblade from? When combined with a Baneblade chassis. I'm thinking it is probably just a touch too small.

Arkhan Land
04-07-2015, 11:36 PM
thanks!

the thing's plasma gun is almost as big as my fullscale plasma pistol prop

Mr Mystery
04-07-2015, 11:40 PM
Huzzah!

sorienor
04-08-2015, 12:30 AM
I think 15 Ork burnaboys will learn to love the pipe relay..

Haighus
04-08-2015, 06:54 PM
If a weapon mounted as part of a building is fired by a model occupying that building, does it use any of the special rules of the firing model? Say I have a model who has the Tank Hunter special rule, will he get to re-roll armour penetration whilst using that beasty of a plasma weapon? Would be particularly nasty for models with Preferred Enemy or Shred...

If it does carry over, it could combine nicely with the new Skitarii detachment- a Warlord with Preferred Enemy for his squad. Take it on a Rangers squad with their nice long ranged weaponry, stick them in the bunker with the plasma gun on top, and fire away with what would effectively be re-rolling to wound against most enemies with a huge AP2 pie plate :)

zanth
04-09-2015, 10:58 AM
Anyone know if these will be regular stock items or if they are going to limited like that $%^#$%^# Void Shield Generator?

Charon
04-09-2015, 11:54 AM
I think 15 Ork burnaboys will learn to love the pipe relay..

Not too sure as you suffer a lot of hits for every cover save.
Wraithguard with D-Scythes on the other hand...

Defenestratus
04-09-2015, 12:01 PM
Not too sure as you suffer a lot of hits for every cover save.
Wraithguard with D-Scythes on the other hand...

Those aren't "flamer" weapons - they're "template" weapons. Eldar wouldn't use promethium in its warp weaponry... its far too crude.

Charon
04-09-2015, 12:38 PM
Those aren't "flamer" weapons - they're "template" weapons. Eldar wouldn't use promethium in its warp weaponry... its far too crude.

In that case it makes it "imperium only" as Flamer weapons are only the following: "Hand Flamer, Flamer, Dragon's Breath Flamer, Flamespurt, Heavy Flamer, Inferno Cannon, Heat Ray (dispersed), Flamestorm Cannon"

So no "Burna" or "Scorcha" either.

Erik Setzer
04-09-2015, 12:48 PM
In that case it makes it "imperium only" as Flamer weapons are only the following: "Hand Flamer, Flamer, Dragon's Breath Flamer, Flamespurt, Heavy Flamer, Inferno Cannon, Heat Ray (dispersed), Flamestorm Cannon"

So no "Burna" or "Scorcha" either.

Since it says "as defined in Warhammer 40,000: The Rules," and the rulebook only lists Imperial weapons, it's quite possible that it's just Imperial weapons that benefit... even though Orks would totally open the pipes and throwing huge bursts of flame at the enemy (which might be part of the problem, I suppose).

Meh. Guess that keeps me from buying it. Unless they FAQ it to say that RAW isn't what they meant.

Kirsten
04-09-2015, 12:55 PM
eldar, ork, tau flamers etc. will all still qualify for the benefit obviously.

Houghten
04-09-2015, 12:57 PM
In that case it makes it "imperium only" as Flamer weapons are only the following: "Hand Flamer, Flamer, Dragon's Breath Flamer, Flamespurt, Heavy Flamer, Inferno Cannon, Heat Ray (dispersed), Flamestorm Cannon"

So no "Burna" or "Scorcha" either.

Even assuming you're counting Chaos as a sub-section of Imperium (in which case you is a grot), you're still wrong. The Dragon's Breath Flamer is an Eldar weapon; the Heat Ray (dispersed) is a Necron weapon; Flamespurt is a Tyranid weapon; Wraithlords and Tau battlesuits can take plain ol' flamers; the Ork codex says that burnas, skorchas, skorcha missiles and burna bomms "are Flamer weapons for the purposes of any special rules that interact with Flamer weapons."

Dark Eldar are out of luck, but they don't really want to be tethered to static terrain anyway...

Defenestratus
04-09-2015, 12:59 PM
Dragon's breath flamer is an eldar heavy flamer.

Also we can give our characters and storm guardians bog standard flamers as well.

Erik Setzer
04-09-2015, 01:24 PM
Ah, it does have a section of weapons listed as "Flamer weapons" in the Ork codex. If not for the "non-vehicle unit" stipulation in the rules, you could make a Burna Bomb or Skorcha Missile "Torrent." Why would you? #becauseorks

Haighus
04-09-2015, 06:30 PM
I find it amusing that a Pyrovore can wander up to some Imperial pipelines, and simply plug itself in... Must have been that "universal adapter" gene taken from consumed galaxy No.3...

On a more serious note, how about a converted biological Tyranid bio-tube, containing volatile liquids for the Pyrovores. They would be more useful with Torrent. Could be handy for deploying near an objective.

Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
04-09-2015, 07:40 PM
I find it amusing that a Pyrovore can wander up to some Imperial pipelines, and simply plug itself in... Must have been that "universal adapter" gene taken from consumed galaxy No.3...I kinda dig the image of a Pyrovore biting into the pipe, gulping down gallons of promethium then launching a massive burst of flame from its cannon.

Arkhan Land
04-09-2015, 08:04 PM
yeah i kind of figured as such that if would suck on it like a helium balloon and then "do a trick"

Erik Setzer
04-09-2015, 08:28 PM
I'm picturing it guzzling the promethium like beer and then doing a flaming "belch." I can't *not* picture it that way now.

Brakkart
04-10-2015, 12:58 PM
Just noticed this as I was ordering my Plasma Obliterator:


An enormous plasma weapon sitting atop a reinforced pillbox, the Plasma Obliterator is a magnificent piece of Adeptus Mechanicus war technology. The infantry assigned to operate this gun are known to hold their breath in terror every time it discharges, as the sheer power can destroy even the heaviest battle tanks and leave glowing, superheated craters in the hardiest terrain.

Available while stocks last, this is one of the most striking scenery models we’ve ever produced - guaranteed to impress anyone who sees it, and intimidate anyone going up against it. Combine it with the Aquila Strongpoint to create a massive, dramatically powerful piece of scenery that will be the perfect centrepiece of any hard-fought battlefield. Comprising thirty-two pieces, the kit includes rules for using the Plasma Obliterator in games of Warhammer 40,000.

Gotta say I do like that it fits the turret mounting on the Aquila Strongpoint:

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Think I'll do a better job of painting mine so the tower and the strongpoint go together better though, when I do get around to painting my Wall of Martyrs sets.

Erik Setzer
04-10-2015, 01:07 PM
Oh lovely, the oversized plasma cannon is a limited-time thing. Which means people will rush to buy it, which will help G-Dub in the short term, but means I won't let someone put one on the table, so they can enjoy dropping money on it, because I have no interest playing against limited edition models.

Oh well. I was thinking the large combined kit looked interesting and all (too much for me, but the tagline was funny innuendo). But my enthusiasm deflated when I saw that it's a limited edition. Meh.

Arkhan Land
04-10-2015, 02:30 PM
Maybe its limited like the pipeline was, to be re-released in greater number later

Defenestratus
04-10-2015, 02:53 PM
Oh lovely, the oversized plasma cannon is a limited-time thing. Which means people will rush to buy it, which will help G-Dub in the short term, but means I won't let someone put one on the table, so they can enjoy dropping money on it, because I have no interest playing against limited edition models.

Oh well. I was thinking the large combined kit looked interesting and all (too much for me, but the tagline was funny innuendo). But my enthusiasm deflated when I saw that it's a limited edition. Meh.

Don't worry Erik... the black market always provides goods where GW stubbornly refuses to.E

EDIT: Especially as its already listed as Sold Out on the GW US website.

What a thunderdud there GW.

Brakkart
04-10-2015, 02:56 PM
Maybe its limited like the pipeline was, to be re-released in greater number later

The pipeline has only just been released, it wasn't released before so far as I know. The rules for it were in the Stronghold Assault book, but no models came out for them then.

Defenestratus
04-10-2015, 02:58 PM
The pipeline has only just been released, it wasn't released before so far as I know. The rules for it were in the Stronghold Assault book, but no models came out for them then.

It was the void shield generator that was limited release, not the pipelines.

Thaldin
04-10-2015, 04:16 PM
Yup... I wanted that Void Shield generator... lost out... and by the time I saw the plasma turret today, it was gone as well.

I really dislike limited edition terrain releases.

Kirsten
04-10-2015, 04:21 PM
it is a pretty odd choice. quite strange to release resin terrain as well, I don't know why both kits weren't released as plastic sets.

Erik Setzer
04-10-2015, 04:25 PM
Yeah, plasma cannon is limited, promethium relay is a line item. Apparently three cannons are coming to the local GW store, one already claimed. I have no interest in buying one and will tell people that if they want to use one, I'll go ahead and use my Knight, Lord of Skulls, or Stompa. If they're not a fan of that kind of trade-off, they can take it up with GW, because I seriously dislike this nonsense of releasing limited items, especially without admitting they are, which leaves them sold out to people "in the know" (and I'm starting to feel like GW might be working with the scalping market) before they're even officially listed for preorder in White Dwarf. (Heck, the GW website still shows last week's preorders when you click into the 40K section and select "preorders.")

Haighus
04-11-2015, 03:20 PM
I don't understand how a pre-order item sells out either, surely they should use the pre-order to get an idea of interest before setting the limit?

I managed to get one, although only just it would seem. Really wanted that giant plasma gun. As it turns out, for a short term strategy, I guess it works, because I almost certainly wouldn't have purchased it now if it wasn't limited, but it is very annoying, and I was planning to get 2 long term, which isn't happening now. So they've lost out overall, sort of.

deinol
04-11-2015, 10:41 PM
I don't understand how a pre-order item sells out either, surely they should use the pre-order to get an idea of interest before setting the limit?

I managed to get one, although only just it would seem. Really wanted that giant plasma gun. As it turns out, for a short term strategy, I guess it works, because I almost certainly wouldn't have purchased it now if it wasn't limited, but it is very annoying, and I was planning to get 2 long term, which isn't happening now. So they've lost out overall, sort of.

Kits would have been manufactured a month ago if they are ready to ship out next week.

But they really need to stop under estimating demand for things.

Arkhan Land
04-12-2015, 06:10 PM
The pipeline has only just been released, it wasn't released before so far as I know. The rules for it were in the Stronghold Assault book, but no models came out for them then.

youre right for some reason i thought they came out with the void shield, maybe i just had a dream about them, one time i saw an incredible massive ship in my dream im bummed doesnt exist in tthe real 40k world.

iGW is working in a "collectors" and "rarity" scheme on their stuff sometimes now. I think its probably going be a succesful scheme. let the few people that have this tote it around, its an extra special meritt badge if there were more available it wouldnt be as coveted.

Brakkart
04-14-2015, 06:40 AM
Hmm this is odd, the Plasma Obliterator has been greyed out with a Sold Out label over it on the UK GW store for the past few days, but not now it seems:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Plasma-Obliterator

It is back able to be pre-ordered. Guess they must have found a pallet of them in the warehouse they'd forgotten about or something, or.... shock horror, they're responding to demand and making more?

EDIT: The Web Bundle with the Aquila Strongpoint is back up for pre-order too.

daboarder
04-14-2015, 06:42 AM
Hmm this is odd, the Plasma Obliterator has been greyed out with a Sold Out label over it on the UK GW store for the past few days, but not now it seems:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Plasma-Obliterator

It is back able to be pre-ordered. Guess they must have found a pallet of them in the warehouse they'd forgotten about or something, or.... shock horror, they're responding to demand and making more?

there is no indication that this was a limited run product that I can see, they are not "while stocks last"

Brakkart
04-14-2015, 06:43 AM
there is no indication that this was a limited run product that I can see, they are not "while stocks last"

You mean apart from this in the product description:


Description

An enormous plasma weapon sitting atop a reinforced pillbox, the Plasma Obliterator is a magnificent piece of Adeptus Mechanicus war technology. The infantry assigned to operate this gun are known to hold their breath in terror every time it discharges, as the sheer power can destroy even the heaviest battle tanks and leave glowing, superheated craters in the hardiest terrain.

Available while stocks last, this is one of the most striking scenery models we’ve ever produced - guaranteed to impress anyone who sees it, and intimidate anyone going up against it. Combine it with the Aquila Strongpoint to create a massive, dramatically powerful piece of scenery that will be the perfect centrepiece of any hard-fought battlefield. Comprising thirty-two pieces, the kit includes rules for using the Plasma Obliterator in games of Warhammer 40,000.

Path Walker
04-14-2015, 06:47 AM
Its a good way of making these items they're not too sure about, stuff like the macro cannon obviously hasn't sold well so they're not willing to commit to a big production run

daboarder
04-14-2015, 06:54 AM
You mean apart from this in the product description:

HUH, thanks for pointing that out.

guess they must have found a palette or something, would be a very big shift in the GW MO to do a second run.

Path Walker
04-14-2015, 06:58 AM
Its gone out of stock and come back at least twice now on the UK store

deinol
04-14-2015, 07:25 AM
HUH, thanks for pointing that out.

guess they must have found a palette or something, would be a very big shift in the GW MO to do a second run.

They've done second runs on codex supplements.

It makes a lot of sense to do multiple runs on plastic models, because making the molds is very expensive. Making a second run is very cheap.

Erik Setzer
04-14-2015, 07:46 AM
HUH, thanks for pointing that out.

guess they must have found a palette or something, would be a very big shift in the GW MO to do a second run.

Well, with some of the limited products in the recent past like Space Hulk, Deathstorm, and the End Times books, they've pulled back in copies that are unsold, and even sent them out to stores for sale after they were "sold out."

Also, it's very possible part of it's the way they do the online sales, where you can place an order and say you'll pay at a local shop, and then you have a certain window to pay. This reserves the item, showing it as sold in their stock, but it's freed up once that window passes. In the rush to buy them, people go and reserve a copy, but then don't get around to paying for it. Weekend passes, and they've got a bunch of product that hasn't actually been sold and is free to sell in the system again. And voila, there's a second wind for the product.

- - - Updated - - -

Also seems to only be available in the UK, not US. So it's probably something like the preorder situation. (If it was a repeat of Space Hulk and Deathstorm, we'd see the copies show up again later. And man, for as popular as Space Hulk was, I still see at least one copy at a local game store and two at the local GW, and that's just on the shelves. Deathstorm was an insanely good deal and still hasn't sold out.)

Brakkart
04-14-2015, 08:09 AM
And man, for as popular as Space Hulk was, I still see at least one copy at a local game store and two at the local GW, and that's just on the shelves. Deathstorm was an insanely good deal and still hasn't sold out.)

Yeah my FLGS has like 6 copies of Deathstorm and 3-4 of Space Hulk still in stock. I don't play either of the armies in Deathstorm and still tempted to get it, especially as managed to get a few old Genestealer cult figures as freebies last week when a lady whose sons have gotten out of gaming, donated their entire old collection to the local GW store. The store kept the scenery (including a complete Warhammer Castle) and anything that was complete in box and then allowed the regulars to pick through the boxes of old metal minis and take what they wanted. Thinking that Spawn of Cryptus would make a good Patriarch.

Erik Setzer
04-14-2015, 08:14 AM
Yeah my FLGS has like 6 copies of Deathstorm and 3-4 of Space Hulk still in stock. I don't play either of the armies in Deathstorm and still tempted to get it, especially as managed to get a few old Genestealer cult figures as freebies last week when a lady whose sons have gotten out of gaming, donated their entire old collection to the local GW store. The store kept the scenery (including a complete Warhammer Castle) and anything that was complete in box and then allowed the regulars to pick through the boxes of old metal minis and take what they wanted. Thinking that Spawn of Cryptus would make a good Patriarch.

Blood Angels were my first army, they've just been on my shelf since 3rd edition made them feel too nasty to use (also, I need to strip a lot of them, clean off excess glue, and redo their gear... hey, I was a kid at the time). I've got a few 'Nids my dad had. I've already gotten one box of Deathstorm. A second one would give me plenty of stuff for my BA's, and enough bugs for a 1500 point force, which might not be the most effective but would be a fun change of pace. It's just such a ridiculously good deal, I can't remember exactly but I think it was something like less than 50% of the retail price of the models included.

zanth
04-14-2015, 10:46 AM
In the US, stores were allocated just one Obliterator, but some store declined their allocation. This sort of thing is likely how they got more to sell on the website.

Erik Setzer
04-14-2015, 11:50 AM
In the US, stores were allocated just one Obliterator, but some store declined their allocation. This sort of thing is likely how they got more to sell on the website.

Wow. Just one? They at least gave their own stores 3. But yeah, I can get not bothering with one, especially depending on how much they were charging the retailer for it.

Porkchop Express
04-14-2015, 12:26 PM
I always thought the GW plastic terrain kits were good value, so I look forward to seeing these.

zanth
04-14-2015, 12:42 PM
Wow. Just one? They at least gave their own stores 3. But yeah, I can get not bothering with one, especially depending on how much they were charging the retailer for it.

Really big stores got two. I'm kind of surprised that any store with an actual customer base would decline getting any at all, especially of limited items. Tho I guess Deathstorm kind of bit us in the butt, we still have our entire allocation sitting on the shelf. :/