Games Workshop Q2-3 Schedule

[Bigred]

via Steve the Warboss 4-2-2015

Games Workshop Q2-3 Schedule


EARLY MAY
Codex Eldar (allready confirmed by Lords of War)

REST OF MAY
Warhammer 9th

EARLY JUNE
Warhammer Fantasy Content

MID JUNE
Codex Tzeentch Deamonkin

LATE JUNE
40k Expansion Part 1

EARLY JULY
Dark Angels vs. CSM Boxed Set

MID JULY
40k Expansion Part 2

LATE JULY
Warhammer Fantasy Starter Set

AUGUST
Codex Space Marines

SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy Content

OCTOBER
40k Expansion Part 1
Space Marines vs. Tau Empire Boxed Set

via WhispererofTruth (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/640125.page) 4-5-2015

Details on Eldar, Tzeentch & Dark Angels


Next 3 releases are still Eldar, DA, Tzeentch.

I've now heard the DA Tac. Squad isn't coming with this release. (Which in no way means the release list has changed, the release dates do NOT change. If isn't coming it simply isn't coming.)

The Chaplain I heard about is also apparently going to be released separately rather than in a box set as I thought originally.

It was specifically titled a "Interrogator Chaplain" rather than just DA Chaplain ala the Blood Angel Libarian.

So as far as I know the release will just be a new Chaplain and Codex.

Release date May.


I heard it was a full new dex with a spotlight on the 5 major Craftworlds and some formations to represent some of their battle tactics. Whether the Craftworlds themselves will get anymore rules than that I don't know.

I heard new DA dex originally, but since this new tidbit I'm not 100%. I'm going to keep digging for new info.

via Birds in the Trees 4-11-2015


Space Marines are one of the two "standard old school" codices that will be a full update this year.

The codex update itself is more of a minor refresh to bring it into alignment with the current edition design trends.

Minis coming are:

- Assault Marines box refresh/update

- New Chaplain (probably plastic)

[Kirsten]

expansion one and two? are we talking books like escalation, or the rumoured Assassins and Heresy boxed sets for example? so much scope.

Dark angels vs chaos space marines still seems like an odd choice.

[Brakkart]

Dark angels vs chaos space marines still seems like an odd choice.

Agreed, what with Dark Vengeance already and the expansion sets for that I can't see what purpose yet another box set on the same theme would serve, especially when there's so many other factions that would benefit from being in a combo army deal box. Ad Mech vs Eldar for example would be far more interesting and likely sell better. I know I'd buy it.

[Erik Setzer]

It's a bit odd that they just have "Warhammer content" while being so specific on what the 40K content is. Makes me a touch concerned for WFB.

[Kirsten]

maybe it is some sort of rebox again, maybe even just a new box design or something.

[Brakkart]

maybe it is some sort of rebox again, maybe even just a new box design or something.

Mmmm possible, but either way it still sounds like a missed opportunity. They're finally bringing out AdMech after decades of them being missing from 40k forces and there's no HQ model in the initial lot of releases (and certainly a desire for one amongst the playerbase). Put a character model Skitarii in a box with a couple units vs Eldar (due out soon) with them having a character model Autarch and a couple units of some sort and I think that's a box that would sell very well.

[Kirsten]

I certain agree it doesn't seem like a great idea. we shall have to see, perhaps not too long to wait to find out.

[Deadlift]

Tzeentch.......... new Thousand Sons ?

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Tzeentch.......... new Thousand Sons ?

Or some entirely new renegade tzeentch chaos marines we've never heard of XD

[Cap'nSmurfs]

"It's a bit odd that they just have "Warhammer content" while being so specific on what the 40K content is. Makes me a touch concerned for WFB."

I think it's just a sign of how ill-developed the rumourmill is for WHFB compared to 40,000. A lot of people go hunting for juicy 40k nuggets and don't know/don't care about the WHFB stuff so much.

(This isn't a criticism, just how it seems to be.)

[DrBored]

"It's a bit odd that they just have "Warhammer content" while being so specific on what the 40K content is. Makes me a touch concerned for WFB."

I think it's just a sign of how ill-developed the rumourmill is for WHFB compared to 40,000. A lot of people go hunting for juicy 40k nuggets and don't know/don't care about the WHFB stuff so much.

(This isn't a criticism, just how it seems to be.)

Pretty much this. There's a lot that's up in the air for WFB, and until we actually SEE 9th, few rumormongers want to touch it.

Meanwhile, 40k is introducing new factions and new supplements, dropping models like they're hot.

And they are hot.

Edit: Also, I have a strong feeling it'll just be a matter of time before Steve the Warboss is proved wrong on a few of these details by other, more reliable rumormongers, or otherwise just the release schedule itself. This seems so much like regurgitated rumor reverb rather than actual fresh information. If he had any new information, he might know what the 'Warhammer Content' actually is :I

[Mr Mystery]

Oddly, rather than worry about WHFB, it makes me suspicious about the other rumours listed....

[Wildeybeast]

Exactly what I was going to say Mystery. The person generating this list has absolutely no clue about what is coming post End Times (which is fair enough, I suspect anyone who does has been forced to sign the Official Secrets Act) but the fact they know nothing about that, mixed with some specific 40k releases and some very generic things, makes me think this is far more a case of someone collating existing rumours and then simply slotting them into what seems like sensible running order than someone who has specific info about release schedules.

[Erik Setzer]

Oddly, rather than worry about WHFB, it makes me suspicious about the other rumours listed....

That was the other option. Seems strange that there's such specific info on 40K, but not on WFB. The "40K expansion" bits are also odd, like they're hedging their bet with the various rumors that have already floated.

[Mr Mystery]

I'm halfway tempted to create a new online persona for different forums - Nostradumbass. Just so I can make up stupid rumours and see how quickly they become 'fact'

- - - Updated - - -

As for Eldar in early May.....that's the period that UK staff aren't able to book as holiday.....

I say UK staff specifically because I know that much - quite likely true for all other Staffers wherever they may be, but sake of factual accuracy!

Given few relief staff, and stores normally closed during staff hols.....why do that for Eldar, rather than the alleged 9th Ed Warhammer the weeks after?

[ShadowcatX]

The simple answer is that they are busy working on fantasy right up until it comes out then once it is out they can relax a bit.

[miteyheroes]

Or some entirely new renegade tzeentch chaos marines we've never heard of XD

That would actually be pretty cool. We've not really seen good rules for regular Tzeentch marines that aren't just empty suits of armour, I'd really like to see some.

[Charon]

We've not really seen good rules for regular Tzeentch marines that aren't just empty suits of armour

We also have not seen good rules for regular Tzeentch marines that are just empty suits of armor.

[Houghten]

sake of factual accuracy!

In vino, veritas.

[Trojan66]

Personally I think may for warhammer is a bit early...don't know , but I think July/ August is more realistic...ony a comment

[daboarder]

I'm halfway tempted to create a new online persona for different forums - Nostradumbass. Just so I can make up stupid rumours and see how quickly they become 'fact'


You're serious? Man that just should say everything people need to know about character.

[40kGamer]

Personally I think may for warhammer is a bit early...don't know , but I think July/ August is more realistic...ony a comment

Summer seems more reasonable but I'm pulling for May since I don't want to start any WFB project until 9th drops.

[Bigred]

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Details on Eldar, Tzeentch & Dark Angels


Next 3 releases are still Eldar, DA, Tzeentch.

I've now heard the DA Tac. Squad isn't coming with this release. (Which in no way means the release list has changed, the release dates do NOT change. If isn't coming it simply isn't coming.)

The Chaplain I heard about is also apparently going to be released separately rather than in a box set as I thought originally.

It was specifically titled a "Interrogator Chaplain" rather than just DA Chaplain ala the Blood Angel Libarian.

So as far as I know the release will just be a new Chaplain and Codex.

Release date May.


I heard it was a full new dex with a spotlight on the 5 major Craftworlds and some formations to represent some of their battle tactics. Whether the Craftworlds themselves will get anymore rules than that I don't know.

I heard new DA dex originally, but since this new tidbit I'm not 100%. I'm going to keep digging for new info.

[Mr Mystery]

You're serious? Man that just should say everything people need to know about character.

That I'm playful and perhaps slightly unhinged? Yep. Spot on.

[Erik Setzer]

So basically, we're now seeing this list of "definite release schedule" break down to "well, *this* might happen or it might not happen, and *that* might happen or it might not happen..." with the codices being "well, I head it could be this or that, but no one knows."

So it's all just guesses thrown together in a list. Like pretty much everything these days.

Glad we got that sorted...

[interrogator_chaplain]

Come on GeeDub's, Chaplain needs a new codex real bad! *Fingers crossed*

[DarkLink]

That I'm playful and perhaps slightly unhinged? Yep. Spot on.

And that you bite the hand that feeds. More than a few reliable rumormongerers have quit because they got tired of the ****ty attitude people directed at them.

[ShadowcatX]

Wow, some people can't take a joke. . .

[Erik Setzer]

And that you bite the hand that feeds. More than a few reliable rumormongerers have quit because they got tired of the ****ty attitude people directed at them.

A. Rumormongers don't "feed" us.
B. If they quit because people have natural skepticism (and cynicism) after the crazy rumors (stuff that's completely wrong, or everyone missing some key releases), then they weren't in it for anything other than personal glory, and I don't see why anyone should feel bad.

[DarkLink]

If you seriously think that people never quit posting online because other people act like dicks, then you either haven't been on the internet for very long, or you're living in your own little dreamworld. It's extremely entitled of you to talk **** about someone, then have the balls to accuse them of being the ones in it for personal glory in the same sentence. If you genuinely do not think that there is a difference between skeptical on one hand and openly accusation on the other, I question your sensibilities.

There are certainly some people who make stuff up. There are also quite a few who are, while not 100% accurate, do get plenty of stuff correct. And there are others who are almost always correct. Several of the latter who used to post on warseer and dakka for years and years quit after just as many years of being accused of lying despite being regularly dead on. Being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag is not acceptable behavior. If you're going to be a skeptic, at least be enough of a man (or woman) to do so politely.

[40kGamer]

There are certainly some people who make stuff up. There are also quite a few who are, while not 100% accurate, do get plenty of stuff correct. And there are others who are almost always correct. Several of the latter who used to post on warseer and dakka for years and years quit after just as many years of being accused of lying despite being regularly dead on. Being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag is not acceptable behavior. If you're going to be a skeptic, at least be enough of a man (or woman) to do so politely.

It's not like the ones trying to pass on actual information get anything out of it besides grief. If I happened to know something I can't think of any real reason to share it with a bunch of overly critical weenies.

[daboarder]

And that you bite the hand that feeds. More than a few reliable rumormongerers have quit because they got tired of the ****ty attitude people directed at them.

basically this,

Caused harry to stop posting (until endtimes got the better of him)

And seriously, if you're going to call out rumour mongers, at least be informed. Dakka Tracks them, so it doesn't take a lot of brains to know which ones to listen too and which to ignore.

Then again, Mystery is the person constantly telling us we might be "missing" something right up to midnight of a release when the codex has leaked in entirety

[Mr Mystery]

Damn that rational approach of wanting to see things in their proper context!

[Erik Setzer]

If you seriously think that people never quit posting online because other people act like dicks, then you either haven't been on the internet for very long, or you're living in your own little dreamworld. It's extremely entitled of you to talk **** about someone, then have the balls to accuse them of being the ones in it for personal glory in the same sentence. If you genuinely do not think that there is a difference between skeptical on one hand and openly accusation on the other, I question your sensibilities.

There are certainly some people who make stuff up. There are also quite a few who are, while not 100% accurate, do get plenty of stuff correct. And there are others who are almost always correct. Several of the latter who used to post on warseer and dakka for years and years quit after just as many years of being accused of lying despite being regularly dead on. Being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag is not acceptable behavior. If you're going to be a skeptic, at least be enough of a man (or woman) to do so politely.

Hmm. A man suggested playing a bit of a prank, having fun joking at all the people who are wrong... and there's lots of them.

If someone's going to quit because they aren't told how special they are (especially with all the stuff that's wrong or missed), then yeah, they weren't in it for anything other than to be told they're right.

I've been on the Internet long enough to grow a thick skin. Don't pull the "you haven't been on the Internet for very long" card and then suggest people should be fragile little flowers, because fragile little flowers get burned on the Internet (screw wilting, people go right to the flamethrowers). I guess *you* haven't been on the Internet long enough to know that. As for me, I make my living working on websites, and have been online since the mid-90s, and have seen parts of the GW community that make the worst stuff on BoLS, Dakka, Warseer, etc. just look so bland and tame. So it seems the problem is just that you're living in your own little dreamworld where respect is the norm on the Internet (or, heck, even off the Internet). It's not.

I've always been polite - as much as makes sense, anyway - about being a skeptic. But I'll remain one, because too many of these rumors are just off-base, even the rumor mongers who get heaps of praise on them. That may not be their fault, it might be GW's policies (that people blindly defend). But if they're going to put information out there, they need to be prepared for the reactions, just like any "news source." (See public reactions to CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. Heck, even local evening news!)

[daboarder]

Damn that rational approach of wanting to see things in their proper context!

Damn that literacy


when the codex has leaked in entirety

[Charon]

But I'll remain one, because too many of these rumors are just off-base, even the rumor mongers who get heaps of praise on them.

And how do you quantify what is "off base" and what not? You have better sources you would like to share?

You can be sceptic all day, you are "allowed" tho have your opinion after all. However posts like Mr. Mystery used to make to plainly insult rumormongers and point out that they are "always wrong and a bunch of liers" is not having an opinon but a display of hostility towards people that try to share rumors without gaining anything from it.
If these posts do accumulate you will get the impression that it is just not worth the efford to try and find out something for that heap of bile spewers.

[Erik Setzer]

If someone claims "X is coming in Y time frame" and it doesn't, it's off-base. Things like the Sisters rumors are definitely way off-base. The Horus Heresy stuff, SOMEONE out there is way off-base. Ditto for WFB rumors. There's too many conflicts. And then there were the dragons for Khaine or Archaon, neither of those books got new character kits.

Sometimes rumors are right, other times they're horribly wrong.

I don't have any sources, because why would I? I've given up caring about when GW is going to release something, as they clearly don't even want their store managers to know. (Speaking of store managers, we keep hearing "round bases for WFB," but the local manager is still building a cross-game Khorne Daemon army just like I am: square bases. If they go round bases, he's in the same boat as the rest of us.) I don't feel like I need to go hunting down information to share on the Internet to make myself look awesome or cool or important. I want to play the games and have fun, and this secrecy is one of the things killing the fun (while also being a spectacularly stupid idea in terms of marketing, but then, GW seems to have fire their marketing staff, their pricing staff, and pretty much everyone except a skeleton crew for development and their legal staff).

If the "effort" of spreading information you've heard from little birdies is offset because a few people are skeptical - AS THEY SHOULD BE WITH GAMES WORKSHOP - while others are thankful, then yes, you are only doing it for accolades, not for the good of the community. And if you want to clam up, I don't care. I'm sick of us having to guess and find out snippets here and there of what MIGHT be coming down the line, which all too often is inaccurate. Meanwhile, FFG just told us what they're releasing for Star Wars Armada in Q3 - that's months from now! We can't get GW to tell us what's coming a week from now, much less a month. Meanwhile, other companies pump up their fans by telling them what's coming down the pipeline. Why can't GW do that? Oh, right, because they're afraid someone might make similar models for a cheaper price, and they're too idiotic to figure out how to combat that, because without a monopolistic system, the current board of GW can't compete. It's odd that Privateer Press, Mantic, FFG, Warlord, Corvus Belli, and all those others can tell people what's coming ahead of time and there's no problem. Oh, right, because they aren't putting obscene prices on stuff and getting scared of competition.

So you want me to bow in worship at people spreading conflicting information just because a company can't be arsed to run itself like it has some shred of caring about its customer base or its place in the market? Not gonna happen, brah.

[Charon]

So you want me to bow in worship at people spreading conflicting information just because a company can't be arsed to run itself like it has some shred of caring about its customer base or its place in the market? Not gonna happen, brah.

No, just to behave like a decent human beeing and refrain from insulting them if they happen to be wrong. Not a difficult concept I presume?

[Defenestratus]

No, just to behave like a decent human beeing and refrain from insulting them if they happen to be wrong. Not a difficult concept I presume?

Antipathy towards the rumor whisperers is something that's always baffled me.

Anyone who works in a corporate world know how quickly things get changed. How often communications get misinterpreted and plans are made, updated and scrapped. I know that in life, I've never battled 1000, and I don't expect that the whisperers who are getting information 3rd, 4th hand likely, are to be correct absolutely all of the time.

[Arkhan Land]

I dunno man I got into wargamming specifically of because of how much I like yelling at people...

as a specific on topic question (I know, gasp) with the release of these new building kits incoming and the fact that half the rules in strognhold assault are out of date, could what were seeing in that expsansion just be another lil tiny-codex to try and cleanup updated building/apoc/d-weapon rules/clarifying issues with building size/stand ins etc?

im happy I snagged stronghold assualt (thankfully at a clearance price immediately after it was released thanks to a local store of my mine culling 40k and specifically never planning on carrying buildings) but i am a little miffed at how short a period of time the book was actually usefull before so many of its rules were changed over for 7th

[Erik Setzer]

No, just to behave like a decent human beeing and refrain from insulting them if they happen to be wrong. Not a difficult concept I presume?

It's not the rumor mongers that I direct my ire toward. It's mostly Games Workshop. And I believe jokingly throwing stuff out there with an anonymous handle is more a jest at the expense of people who eagerly eat up everything they're told. So I don't see where that's been a huge problem so far. But we're told we shouldn't make any comments other than positive ones, and people shouldn't play jokes (probably because a lot of people are so desperate for info they've become exceptionally gullible).

[Charon]

And muddying the waters further is helping because... ?

[Erik Setzer]

Doesn't really hurt at this point, and provides someone with amusement. Might provide plenty of people with amusement.

Actually, a mock GW rumors site that's clearly satire would actually be pretty funny.

[Bigred]

The trick with rumors is to keep an open mind, but to also go back and verify after the fact.

Many rumor mongers that get hounded as being hacks are actually quite good, but may have information from sections of the product development process far away from shipping. So they get proved correct years down the road and the mob has already ruled.

Take for example a person who may have information coming from any given company's creative studio, compared to a person who has sight into the shipping and distribution side of things.

To laymen on the the street, the latter person will seem to be super accurate while the former is an unreliable hack. But in reality, both are accurate, but at different distances from the street date of products. If you are talking about company with a 3-6 month design to streetdate pipeline, its not as visible a difference, compared to a company who have a 2 year design to streetdate pipeline.

That said, one must always look out for the purposeful fabricators who are out there. It's the removal of the false noise from the rumorsphere that is the real hard job to do. Often you can't really gauge accuracy until a couple of years down the line.

Finally remember always that rumors are entertainment. Nothing less, nothing more.

-Larry

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Actually, a mock GW rumors site that's clearly satire would actually be pretty funny.

I'm surprised nobody has done something like that already really. It would be quite amusing if done properly and not in a mean spirited way or anything.

[40kGamer]

The trick with rumors is to keep an open mind, but to also go back and verify after the fact.

Many rumor mongers that get hounded as being hacks are actually quite good, but may have information from sections of the product development process far away from shipping. So they get proved correct years down the road and the mob has already ruled.

Don't forget you can get 99 things correct but people only remember the one you missed. :p

[Bigred]

via Birds in the Trees 4-11-2015


Space Marines are one of the two "standard old school" codices that will be a full update this year.

The codex update itself is more of a minor refresh to bring it into alignment with the current edition design trends.

Minis coming are:

- Assault Marines box refresh/update

- New Chaplain (probably plastic)

[Cap'nSmurfs]

That'd be nice!

[40kGamer]

Seems reasonable. The assault marines are showing some age.

[DarkLink]

Hopefully tune down grav centurions and boost the other, crappier ones a little?

[HsojVvad]

Finally remember always that rumors are entertainment. Nothing less, nothing more.

-Larry

Exactly. Nothing less, nothing more. How come when a rumour doesn't pan out the person is a fake? Does this make Larry a fake? I know he said the new Tyranid codex would be released in November then changed it to December. Was he wrong? Yes. So what? He gave out information to the best of his knowledge. Funny the new Tyranid codex came out in January, 2 and 1 month after his predictions, or sources. So he was correct that they were coming out, just wrong in his time frame.

Just like how Tyranids were suppose to get a new Crab like Creature. It never happened in the new codex. So does this mean Larry was wrong again? People harped on Larry for being frivolous with his rumors and click bait. I believe I was one of them as well, and for that, I am sorry Larry. I was a duchy at the time. Hey we all make mistakes right? Funny almost a 9 or 10 months later it came out. So this means that Larry was right on his rumours that Nids were getting a Crab like creature almost a year before it came out.

As Larry said, Rumours are entertainment. Nothing more nothing less. If all rumours were true, they wouldn't be called rumours but FACTS. So when a rumour doesn't become fact and people get their knickers in a knot, speaks more of that persons character than anything else.

Don't want to believe in a rumour? Fine don't. Just don't be a Richard about it.

[DarkLink]

And even more importantly, a lot of the rumor guys see things that GW is actually working on, but not the final product. Heck, there's a guy who works as an actual game designer semi-locally for various companies. He had one of the playtest versions of the CSM codex. It was all the same art and stuff, most of the rules or statlines were identical to what they are now, and this was a while before the codex came out. But things changed. For example, in the test codex, Veterans of the Long War gave Preferred Enemy: Space Space Marines. The final codex downgraded that to Hatred.

Despite the fact that this guy was 100% legit, had he mentioned PE it seems like half the people who comment on rumors would have mocked him as a liar. This is the case for a lot of rumors. Believe it or not, GW changes things in production and playtesting. When someone sees a bunch of sculpts for sisters of battle models "oh, hey, they're working on Sisters, I don't know when they're coming out though". But the attitude of some of the rumor critics is that if GW doesn't come out with all of said sisters models within the month, obviously the guy who mentioned them was a liar. Some of them may give them two, or even three months, but the attitude is the same. For all that guy knows, the Sisters are a backburner project that won't come out for three years. He only knows that they're working on Sisters.

So to expand on what HsojVvad said, just because rumors aren't 100% accurate every time all the time does not mean that the person posting the rumors is making things up.

[Mr Mystery]

Reporting rumours is fun, and what BOLS and Faeit do. They share the news.

It's those that make stuff up that get on my wick, hence my very......direct post in the Warhammer thread. I really don't like liars.

But yeah, if you're given a rumour, by all means share it. It's on the head of the originator, not the sharer :)

[daboarder]

Reporting rumours is fun, and what BOLS and Faeit do. They share the news.

It's those that make stuff up that get on my wick, hence my very......direct post in the Warhammer thread. I really don't like liars.

But yeah, if you're given a rumour, by all means share it. It's on the head of the originator, not the sharer :)


I'm halfway tempted to create a new online persona for different forums - Nostradumbass. Just so I can make up stupid rumours and see how quickly they become 'fact'

.......... ......?

[Mr Mystery]

It's called having a sense of humour.

You should give it a try sometime. It's very liberating.

[daboarder]

It's called having a sense of humour.

You should give it a try sometime. It's very liberating.

Given how much you btch about rumour mongers it didnt seem funny

[Mr Mystery]

Given how much you btch about rumour mongers it didnt seem funny

The proposed name is the clue. Perhaps word play is just a little too complex for some?

[ShadowcatX]

Given how much you btch about rumour mongers it didnt seem funny

Get offit dude. I, for one, did think it was amusing. Furthermore anyone who believes a brand new account that is named Nostradumbass deserves to have their noses tweeked a little.