Battle missions

[Shadow Queen]

Picked up a copy thismorning nothing in there for deamon hunters or witch hunters.

[Lord Azaghul]

/me giggles to himself

[Angrim]

Picked up a copy thismorning nothing in there for deamon hunters or witch hunters.

Any other specifics you can divulge?

[Shadow Queen]

each race gets 3 missions including Kill team, Linebreaker and Clash of Heroes (no named HQ like Calgar).

[Lord Azaghul]

I leafed through the store copy at my flgs, I wasn't terribly impressed. The good thing was all the missions looked pretty straight forward and easy to try, and the bad thing was all the missions looked pretty straight foward and easy to try. I didn't really see any reason to buy it, unlike say planet strike.

[Shadow Queen]

Im returning to the hobby from a time off since "The Eye of Terror." campaign.

[elrodogg]

So, 30 new missions and nothing worth trying? I was under the impression that there was a much wider variety of games to be played.

[tjkopena]

There was a reason to buy PlanetStrike? Let me know, I'd love to get more value out of my copy beyond some good terrain photos and a half-assed set of rules and missions that would take 5 minutes to come up with.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Well, I think its worth it for the new Kill Team rules. But then iv always loved Kill Team...

[Aldramelech]

Goodbye

[Drew da Destroya]

There was a reason to buy PlanetStrike? Let me know, I'd love to get more value out of my copy beyond some good terrain photos and a half-assed set of rules and missions that would take 5 minutes to come up with.

Why did you buy the 5th edition rulebook at all? I mean, it's just a bunch of rules for playing make-believe with toy soldiers. Any 4 year old can do that. For that matter, why buy the overpriced toy soldiers from GW when you can stop in the dollar store, and pick up a bag of 50 or so green army men for, well, a dollar? It's just plastic.

We're all well aware that people can homebrew rules. However, many people either don't have the time, imagination, or desire to create their own. Books like Apoc, Planetstrike, CoD, and Battle Missions are for them. And maybe they can even serve as a jumping-off point, for people who wanted to homebrew, but weren't really sure what was possible.

Please come down off your high horse, it hurts my neck to have to look up at you.

[tjkopena]

We're all well aware that people can homebrew rules. However, many people either don't have the time, imagination, or desire to create their own. Books like Apoc, Planetstrike, CoD, and Battle Missions are for them. And maybe they can even serve as a jumping-off point, for people who wanted to homebrew, but weren't really sure what was possible.

Please come down off your high horse, it hurts my neck to have to look up at you.

That's a little defensive, don't you think? What exactly are you feeling insecure about, on _your_ high horse?

Somewhat obviously, the point is not that these expansions are necessarily a bad thing. I was as stoked as anybody to hear about PlanetStrike, Battle Missions, etc. The problem is when they're not well done, like PlanetStrike---a couple incomplete rules (only the Imperium has discovered this thing called defensive guns? and they get to place as many as they want?), imbalanced stratagems and not many of them, a good number of typos, etc. In contrast, consider Cities of Death. That codified ruins, had a ton of stratagems, some new missions, etc. In comparison, PlanetStrike just seems thin and produced in haste. Similarly, if the battle book is good in my view then I would love to get it for exactly the reasons you cite. If not, then I won't, but I wouldn't begrudge or look down on people who value it differently. It's just a legitimate and widely shared *opinion* that some of these expansions are not of the value many would hope them to be.

[Polonius]

i'm sure planet strike was fun for some people, but it came off more like a a fun goofy mission or two rather than a true expansion.

[Inquisit-R-Us]

Kill team is: 200 pts 0-1 elite, 0-2 troop, 0-1 fast. 3 specialists per army, give any one USR to each. when down to 1/2 strength, you have to take a Ld test at the begining of the next turn, using highest Ld on the board, or your army retreats and you lose. each turn after the one in which you first test Ld, you take a -1Ld penalty to the roll which are cumulative. set up table quarters, 9" from the center of board. Roll to choose 1/4's {no reserves} and deploy, roll a d6 anything but a 1, and the 1st turn goes to 1st to deploy. Each model counts as a unit. in assault a model/unit can allocate his attacks b/w enemy models. Each model can target any other enemy model, b/c they are technically seperate units. Read out of the black box! enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!