Forgeworld Teases a New Tank

[Bigred]

This week's newsletter (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_52.html) shows this:

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Which is clearly part of this guy shown at the Horus Heresy weekender:

Laser Destroyer Vindicator variant:
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I think it's a good bet that this guy gets released this week.

[Defenestratus]

This week's newsletter (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_52.html) shows this:

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Which is clearly part of this guy shown at the Horus Heresy weekender:

Laser Destroyer Vindicator variant:
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I think it's a good bet that this guy gets released this week.

Oh hey look its yet *ANOTHER* FW imperial/HH wanktank.

Its just BORING now.

[YorkNecromancer]

Oh hey look its yet *ANOTHER* FW imperial/HH wanktank.

Its just BORING now.

Not as boring as that constant bloody refrain... :rolleyes:

Look, some of us LOVE Marines. LOVE them. (And I really, really do.) If you don't, cool. I understand your pain, I really do - I've been wanting plastic DE Grotesques for a while. Not to mention, AdMech since the days of the Black Codex.

So, you know, I understand the frustration of always wanting it to be your turn on the dance floor, and never getting invited.

But sweet mercy, could you (not necessarily 'you' personally, 'you' as in the community) not just give it a rest for once? Some of us think this tank looks cool, even by the standards of Marine stuff and we're not wrong to have that opinion. You may hate it, and that's fine, but some of us don't. It's a cool model, well made.

FW have clearly tried other things, but they're just not selling. Warhammer Forge had some great stuff, but no-one bought. They're a company, and marines sell; that's just life. Complaining about this does nothing except make people who are fans of marines feel like jerks for showing loyalty to something they love (Which isn't cool at all). Not to mention, it isn't going to get the things you want made, so your complaints don't even have a positive effect. Which sucks, I understand.

But come on, man - misery may love company, but you can rise above that.

[Kirsten]

They're a company, and marines sell; that's just life.


plus you have to remember they are a company that was founded by a few imperial tank lovers. Forge World has always been imperial focused, because that is what they want to make.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Even though the gun itself is identical to that on the Destroyer Tank Hunter, why do I feel FW are going to give it better rules cos Marines? :P

I wish the Destroyer had a gun that made more sense...

[YorkNecromancer]

plus you have to remember they are a company that was founded by a few imperial tank lovers. Forge World has always been imperial focused, because that is what they want to make.

They are called 'Forge World' after all... :)

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Perhaps we need a "Craftworld" sub-company then :P

[Kirsten]

that would certainly be cool

[Bigred]

I like to think it's because the Eldar units are so good, the Imperials have to keep cranking out stuff to try to beat them...

At LVO, everyone who played Imperials talked about the Lynx with a real sense of fear... It was pretty funny...

-Larry

[Thaldin]

Hmmm "Craft-World"... I like this idea! I really need to look at that Lynx.. but I already have so much to assemble and paint that I have collected over the years =\

[Kirsten]

I wouldn't call it craftworld though, I would call it PsychoPlastic...

[Thaldin]

*goes and buys a domain name*

[Defenestratus]

Not as boring as that constant bloody refrain... :rolleyes:

<stuff>

But come on, man - misery may love company, but you can rise above that.

Too bad. Your post has basically forced my hand.

I shall be publicly lamenting the lack of support for FW's existing lines (in the apparently automata-based reposting of the FW's broadcast emails on this forum) of anything not-imperial for henceforth until the day that they do actually:

1) Release something other that HH
2) Release a Xenos model for something other than HH
3) Update/revise/release rules for something other than HH or an Imperial unit.

Just how many "Tank/Walker/Dreadnought Chassis X mated with weapon combination Z" do you need in an imperial army? I can't keep track anymore. Since the release of HH I think there's been maybe five non-imperial releases - the Tau riptide variant. Its the only one I can remember off of the top of my head. I'm not even complaining about Eldar specific releases - anything... c'mon... Necrons, Orks, Tau... so many exciting model opportunities. Not just models, how about actually updating some rules to the current rule set!!!!

Like this email I sent to FW last year:

Hello

I was thinking about expanding my corsairs army with some actually boots on the ground type models however their rules seem like they need to be updated since they don't have the new Eldar special rules like Battle Focus or Ancient Enemy.

Is there a plan to update this ruleset?

Thank You and cheers!


forgeworld to me
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9/20/14
Hi <my name>(excellent name by the way!)

The writers are actually in the process of updating the corsairs right now. I'm unsure as to when the rules set will be released but hopefully it shouldn't be too long now.

What models do you want to have in your collection?


If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us.

Regards,
Forge World

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I wouldn't call it craftworld though, I would call it PsychoPlastic...

Osteochanters.

[Theik]

Eh, could be worse.
You could be a warhammer fantasy player with the Monstrous Arcanum. ;)

[YorkNecromancer]

Too bad. Your post has basically forced my hand.

I shall be publicly lamenting the lack of support for FW's existing lines (in the apparently automata-based reposting of the FW's broadcast emails on this forum) of anything not-imperial for henceforth until the day that they do actually.

*shrug*

Then I hope doing so brings you happiness.

And as far as 'until they do', I suspect you will be waiting until the day after never...

[Defenestratus]

*shrug*

Then I hope doing so brings you happiness.

And as far as 'until they do', I suspect you will be waiting until the day after never...

You think that they've given up doing anything but Imperial and HH stuff?

[Wolfshade]

I like this :)

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Too bad. Your post has basically forced my hand.

I shall be publicly lamenting the lack of support for FW's existing lines (in the apparently automata-based reposting of the FW's broadcast emails on this forum) of anything not-imperial for henceforth until the day that they do actually:

1) Release something other that HH
2) Release a Xenos model for something other than HH
3) Update/revise/release rules for something other than HH or an Imperial unit.

Just how many "Tank/Walker/Dreadnought Chassis X mated with weapon combination Z" do you need in an imperial army? I can't keep track anymore. Since the release of HH I think there's been maybe five non-imperial releases - the Tau riptide variant. Its the only one I can remember off of the top of my head. I'm not even complaining about Eldar specific releases - anything... c'mon... Necrons, Orks, Tau... so many exciting model opportunities. Not just models, how about actually updating some rules to the current rule set!!!!

Like this email I sent to FW last year:


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Osteochanters.

I'd really like FW flayed ones (the GW ones are fugly) and those named Necron characters myself.

[Popsical]

Too bad. Your post has basically forced my hand.

I shall be publicly lamenting the lack of support for FW's existing lines (in the apparently automata-based reposting of the FW's broadcast emails on this forum) of anything not-imperial for henceforth until the day that they do actually:

1) Release something other that HH
2) Release a Xenos model for something other than HH
3) Update/revise/release rules for something other than HH or an Imperial unit.

Just how many "Tank/Walker/Dreadnought Chassis X mated with weapon combination Z" do you need in an imperial army? I can't keep track anymore. Since the release of HH I think there's been maybe five non-imperial releases - the Tau riptide variant. Its the only one I can remember off of the top of my head. I'm not even complaining about Eldar specific releases - anything... c'mon... Necrons, Orks, Tau... so many exciting model opportunities. Not just models, how about actually updating some rules to the current rule set!!!!

Like this email I sent to FW last year:


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Osteochanters.

Defenestratus: Posts 2321, 2000 bemoaning FW not releasing alien models for 40k.
Thats what it is getting like buddy.
Do you think FW read this forum? So will it have any effect on them?
Cheer up. I love marines and even i'm sick of dreadnought variants to the point where i don't own any anymore.
The latest Jordandread (jordan: english model with absurd fake boobs) with even BIGGER guns just made me laugh its so bad imho.
But it sells so i suppose it keeps GW going and lets them make other stuff i want.
Try looking at it that way.

[CoffeeGrunt]

I want Forge World to make a Leman Russ Avenger. Just put the Avenger Bolt Cannon on a Russ, or even just make the rules for it.

Also a variant with some sort of super Multi-Laser array would be funny. We could called it the Gotonator.

[Katharon]

It would be nice to see some more stuff for the Imperial Guard. I'd be happy to see some more fixed position guns (think of the WWII German 88mm anti-tank/anti-air gun), some new tanks, and etc etc etc.

[YorkNecromancer]

You think that they've given up doing anything but Imperial and HH stuff?

Nope.

But I think there's less money in that other stuff or they wouldn't be doing so much Imperial stuff. Not to mention, Imperial stuff very easily becomes Chaos, and so it's simply more cost-effective to make a model for the Imperial factions than it is for something like, say, Dark Eldar - who I adore, but know full well are never getting a new kit from FW. Well, they might, but it'll be so fragile it might as well be made out of literal tissue paper.

I think FW is done with anything non-Imperial/Chaos for the next few years, apart from a few isolated releases. While I welcome the idea of new models for Xenos, they clearly aren't a priority... And never have been. Which is a shame, but there it is.

Which is why I try not to complain. Not to mention, I enjoy converting more than any other part of the hobby, so a lack of models has never bothered me. If they don't exist, I just make them myself.

But, you know, each to their own.

[Kirsten]

I love the Heresy stuff they do, and am always happy for more. they do need to build the riptide variant I emailed them about though.

[Deadlift]

Wraithknight variants would be nice too.

[YorkNecromancer]

they do need to build the riptide variant I emailed them about though.

Says the woman who built this:

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd380/KirstenIGMB/20150125_203549_zpsefb4ddb0.jpg

:rolleyes:

Seriously, you could build it yourself. Maybe not easily, but you could... :)

[Haighus]

Well, Mymeara and Kastorel-novem are on the way out, so you can expect a 2nd Edition for each and probably one new Ork and one new Eldar kit to come out with each in the relatively near future (I reckon early summer for Kastorel-novem, and late Autumn for Mymeara based on previous 2nd Editions and when they started selling off the old stock for the originals).

[Kirsten]

Says the woman who built this:

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd380/KirstenIGMB/20150125_203549_zpsefb4ddb0.jpg

:rolleyes:

Seriously, you could build it yourself. Maybe not easily, but you could... :)

oh I could, but I still want an official model with proper rules. maybe I will build it first, then send it to them with the rules I created and say 'make this now!'

[CoffeeGrunt]

There's rumours of a Tau-oriented IA book coming out this year, but so far they remain just that. Apparently mentioned by a guy at one of FW's booths at a the Open Day.

This was alongside the rumours of a Superheavy Battlesuit, which would be all kinds of win. I really hope they make the existing Forge World Tau minis actually worth taking, though. Only the Tetras and Barracudas are really worth a look, the others are often pretty meh or overpriced for what they bring, (TX-42s, AX-10s and XV9s, I'm looking at you!)

[Mr Mystery]

Nope.

But I think there's less money in that other stuff or they wouldn't be doing so much Imperial stuff. Not to mention, Imperial stuff very easily becomes Chaos, and so it's simply more cost-effective to make a model for the Imperial factions than it is for something like, say, Dark Eldar - who I adore, but know full well are never getting a new kit from FW. Well, they might, but it'll be so fragile it might as well be made out of literal tissue paper.

I think FW is done with anything non-Imperial/Chaos for the next few years, apart from a few isolated releases. While I welcome the idea of new models for Xenos, they clearly aren't a priority... And never have been. Which is a shame, but there it is.

Which is why I try not to complain. Not to mention, I enjoy converting more than any other part of the hobby, so a lack of models has never bothered me. If they don't exist, I just make them myself.

But, you know, each to their own.

HH is also developing away from just Maureen v Maureen.

Mechanicus stuff is astoundingly nice - and not entirely unreasonably priced once you factor in the pounds-to-points ratio.

Solar Auxilia are also a welcome addition, somewhat breaking up the monotony of 'Power Armour Variant #439593'

But as you say - it's entirely based on demand. Yes, there is of course demand for Dark Eldar, Necrons, Orks, Eldar, Tau, Tyranids etc. But there is a much, much higher demand for Horus Heresy kits.

Those who buy Forgeworld stuff for 40k are buying, on average, maybe two or three kits. That's the nature of the beast. The 40k range in ancillary to the Citadel Miniatures range.

Everyone who plays Horus Heresy games however is in it for many, many more kits. Not necessarily entire army worth stuff (if you're opponents aren't fussy, there's little stopping you from using plastic Marines and that). But pretty much all the HH players I know exclusively use Forgeworld. That's a helluva lot of money going on that range. A single HH player probably spends the equivalent on Forgeworld goodies of 5 or 6 40k gamers adding a single unit.

Consider this - I'm going to be doing Mechanicum in Horus Heresy, and quite likely to do Skitarii in 40k. Even if there is some cross over (and that's not yet a given!) I'm still in for at least £195 of Forgeworld goodies, because I want three Thanatar Siege Automata. And of course £185.00 for 5 Castellax. And I'm almost certain to spend a further £108.00 on sixteen Scyllax.....

[Darren Richardson]

see, I really don't like the guns on that new tank, AND I AM a Space Marine fan :p LOL

I do think FW have gone too far with this HH stuff, they now have far too many types and hulls of tanks, I too lemant the lack of Warhammer stuff, when I could finally buy some of their scenery, they stopped making it :sob:

[Houghten]

Even though the gun itself is identical to that on the Destroyer Tank Hunter, why do I feel FW are going to give it better rules cos Marines? :P

I wish the Destroyer had a gun that made more sense...

The Destroyer's gun looks more like it ought to be a "Light Neutron Laser" than a "Heavy Laser Destroyer Array."

Still, I notice the Vindicator's doesn't have "Heavy" in its name so maybe it'll be the 36" version off the Spartan instead of the 60" version off the Destroyer?

Though I also notice the Vindicator's array appears to have been made out of autocannon instead of lascannon (no sloping) so maybe FW just don't know the meaning of the word "consistency." Yeah, that seems more likely.

[CoffeeGrunt]

The Destroyer's gun looks more like it ought to be a "Light Neutron Laser" than a "Heavy Laser Destroyer Array."

Still, I notice the Vindicator's doesn't have "Heavy" in its name so maybe it'll be the 36" version off the Spartan instead of the 60" version off the Destroyer?

Though I also notice the Vindicator's array appears to have been made out of autocannon instead of lascannon (no sloping) so maybe FW just don't know the meaning of the word "consistency." Yeah, that seems more likely.

IMO it should be a single-shot D weapon in order to earn its status. Even if it rolled in at 200pts, that'd be a very handy asset.

[WyattAyars]

They need to make the next primarch instead of tanks XD