Mr Mystery
03-13-2015, 06:51 AM
Or, the alleged fyootcha for Warhammer.
So, to kick off......many alleged rumour mongers (I say alleged, because until you're accurate, your just a numpty making stuff up) claim all of Warhammer is going to round base, amongst other claims (which get more and more ludicrous).
But how is it stacking up so far? Here is my take on it, listing what we have seen and what we have been told by those known to be reliable.
Arguments and evidence for a complete overhaul of the game as we know it.
1) Harry has said he's seen play testing involving Warhammer models on round bases.
2) Larger round bases appearing in 40k. Easily overlooked, but does kind of make sense, seeing as Warhammer has 20mm and 25mm mounted basic infantry. Larger round base could be the 25mm base reborn.
3) A single image purporting to show the Screaing Bell and Plague Furnace mounted on the oval bases. I say purporting because there are those who claim it's a photoshop job. I'm far from an expert on these things.
4) Lots and lots and lots of people cropping up claiming it's all being scrapped and lots of armies being ditched, and is going purely skirmish.
5) YOU MANIACS. YOU BLEW IT UP. YOU BLEW IT ALL UP.
Arguments and evidence against a complete overhaul of the game as we know it.
1) Harry has said his understanding is what he's seen being play tested is an addition to the game, rather than a replacement.
2) Round bases....possibly more anecdote that set evidence - lots of kits released for End Times, and nothing that came with a choice of bases (barring Barry Bloodthirster, who comes with an oval base for 40k)
3) Many of the rumours are contradictory. Many have already proven to have been nonsense at worst, and confusion at best (Bubble Hammer. Yeah. World went squish. No bubbles. Lizardmen did not float off into space)
4) The last major system overhaul we saw was 2nd to 3rd Ed 40k. GW have said previously they wouldn't consider such a fundamental change of how the system works again.
5) 8th Ed works really nice at the higher points - only downside is that for a fair old while, Warhammer has been scaled up at the expense of being able to scale down for newcomers.
6) Some of the armies rumoured to be 'squatted' have fairly recently recevied significant updates to their ranges. In plastic. That's some expensve shelled out. Even if a range isn't selling particularly well (and we have no figures available for what is and isn't, let alone what GW might consider an underperformance), keeping them in production isn't a massive expense, and they should eventually make their money back (especially if you produce a new book that makes the entire army Well 'Ard!) So there isn't a great deal of sense ditching army and moulds.
Right, that's my rundown. I've probably missed stuff, so feel free to chime in.
I know my consideration - but this isn't about whether I'm right or not. It's meant to prevent de-railing of other threads by making it a subject of itself :)
So, to kick off......many alleged rumour mongers (I say alleged, because until you're accurate, your just a numpty making stuff up) claim all of Warhammer is going to round base, amongst other claims (which get more and more ludicrous).
But how is it stacking up so far? Here is my take on it, listing what we have seen and what we have been told by those known to be reliable.
Arguments and evidence for a complete overhaul of the game as we know it.
1) Harry has said he's seen play testing involving Warhammer models on round bases.
2) Larger round bases appearing in 40k. Easily overlooked, but does kind of make sense, seeing as Warhammer has 20mm and 25mm mounted basic infantry. Larger round base could be the 25mm base reborn.
3) A single image purporting to show the Screaing Bell and Plague Furnace mounted on the oval bases. I say purporting because there are those who claim it's a photoshop job. I'm far from an expert on these things.
4) Lots and lots and lots of people cropping up claiming it's all being scrapped and lots of armies being ditched, and is going purely skirmish.
5) YOU MANIACS. YOU BLEW IT UP. YOU BLEW IT ALL UP.
Arguments and evidence against a complete overhaul of the game as we know it.
1) Harry has said his understanding is what he's seen being play tested is an addition to the game, rather than a replacement.
2) Round bases....possibly more anecdote that set evidence - lots of kits released for End Times, and nothing that came with a choice of bases (barring Barry Bloodthirster, who comes with an oval base for 40k)
3) Many of the rumours are contradictory. Many have already proven to have been nonsense at worst, and confusion at best (Bubble Hammer. Yeah. World went squish. No bubbles. Lizardmen did not float off into space)
4) The last major system overhaul we saw was 2nd to 3rd Ed 40k. GW have said previously they wouldn't consider such a fundamental change of how the system works again.
5) 8th Ed works really nice at the higher points - only downside is that for a fair old while, Warhammer has been scaled up at the expense of being able to scale down for newcomers.
6) Some of the armies rumoured to be 'squatted' have fairly recently recevied significant updates to their ranges. In plastic. That's some expensve shelled out. Even if a range isn't selling particularly well (and we have no figures available for what is and isn't, let alone what GW might consider an underperformance), keeping them in production isn't a massive expense, and they should eventually make their money back (especially if you produce a new book that makes the entire army Well 'Ard!) So there isn't a great deal of sense ditching army and moulds.
Right, that's my rundown. I've probably missed stuff, so feel free to chime in.
I know my consideration - but this isn't about whether I'm right or not. It's meant to prevent de-railing of other threads by making it a subject of itself :)