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YorkNecromancer
02-27-2015, 07:08 PM
Why Don't They Put Their Helmets On? A Plea For A Different Kind of Creativity Than You’re Used To

The first time I watched ‘Saw’, it left me with the shattered nerves of an elbow stepping out of the cage after facing Ronda Rousey. I was so messed up I had to call my thankfully-tolerant, unfortunately-absent girlfriend and ask her for an over-the-phone hug. Something about ‘Saw’ (probably the self-inflicted, hacksaw-based foot amputation) left me as ruined as that Christmas Grandad gave me his used Rolodex full of the names and numbers of all his dead friends (a sadly true story).

It wasn’t until afterwards that I began to ask myself how SPOILER ALERT it was possible for a terminal cancer patient (no matter how intelligent) to orchestrate the whole affair. For all his cunning, the character of John Kramer simply couldn’t have done everything his character got away with.

So, faced with this irreconcilable problem, I did what a lifetime of horror movies had trained me to do, and immediately ignored it.

Because the thing about horror, is that it is – to my eternal disappointment - a dumb genre. You’re going to get plot holes so big you can fit Kanye West’s ego in and still have room left over for your own sense of disappointment in what a petulant little tool he is. It’s like: why don’t the phones ever get a signal? Why is it that the killer always comes back three times? Why does anyone ever ask: ‘John? Is that you?’ WHEN IT’S NEVER JOHN. NEVER. IT’S ALWAYS A KILLER WITH A BLOODY GREAT KNIFE. (Or chainsaw. Or hammer. Or maybe some kind of elaborate death-trap involving a nightclub and the mechanism off the front of a combine harvester.)

Plot holes are, to the hardcore horror fan, just something we live with. The sad truth is that horror films aren’t made with an intelligent audience in mind; like surface-to-air missiles, they’re made for people to just enjoy then forget about. Which is pretty crappy, but it is what it is. The Rule of Scary almost always trumps logic, common sense, or even the rules of physics, and that’s just how it is.

*sigh*

But then ‘Saw II’ came out and lo and behold: for a terrible film, it had a masterful reveal. That SPOILER ALERT John Kramer was not alone! He had an apprentice all along!

And I thought words to the effect of ‘Oh my glob, they just filled in the plot hole with logic instead of awkward exposition and scenes of teenagers drinking beer! Who saw that coming?’ Well, not me, I can tell you. While the ‘Saw’ series never really recaptured the visceral joy of the first film, they made an absolute virtue of their continuity. If ever something made you go ‘Wait: how did he set that up?’ you can guarantee they’d explain it in a later film. Yeah, the film could be charitably described as ‘mediocre if you squint’, but that little nagging annoyance, that little thing that stopped you suspending your disbelief, it would be gone, replaced by a satisfied sort of smile, because the budgets might not cover the effects, but the writers had your back.

So far, so rambling. But how does this pertain to 40K?

Well, it’s kind of simple really. There’s a ton of stuff in 40K that is, for want of a better word, utter bollocks. Orks clap their hands and the drainpipe the Mek superglued a trigger onto suddenly fires bullets? The Blood Angel has an axe encarmine the size of a council house front door, and yet he can swing it like it’s a ball-peen hammer? The Ultramarines use standard Macragge-pattern ‘Try It. Please’ camo, and yet no-one shoots their dumb blue backsides back into the Horus Heresy?

Power fists?

Power?

Fists?

40K is a game of utter madness. It runs on the Rule of Cool; stuff just works BECAUSE IT DOES. SHUT UP AND ENJOY IT GOD WHY CAN’T WE EVER HAVE ANYTHING NICE?

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Look, here’s Arnie and Carl Weathers simmering together again. Why can’t you just let it go? And no, I will never get tire of this gif. Nor should you.

The thing is, it doesn’t necessarily have to be that way. I’m a firm believer (and fan of) Deconstruction as an artistic concept.

Making The Nonsense Work In Your Favour.

Alan Moore’s ‘Watchmen’ is probably the most famous deconstruction in all of literature, largely because it’s so simple an idea: if superheroes were real, really real, what would they be like?

Insane.

They would be insane.

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Rorschach: all the Batman, none of the money.

‘Watchmen’ takes a bunch of recognisable superheroic archetypes, and gives each one a chapter in the novel to show us how utterly, horribly, irredeemably awful it would be to be a superhero. Batman’s a dysfunctional homeless man who hates all women and breaks into his only friend’s house to steal his delicious uncooked beans. Superman’s a naked god who isn’t interested in saving the world or wearing clothes because what would be the point of either? Wonder Woman’s relationship with her pushy stage-mother can be described as ‘exhausted’ at best and ‘murderous’ at worst.

Through these characters, the standard superhero story is deconstructed: taken apart by very simply asking: what would happen if this was real? And the thing that makes ‘Watchmen’ so good is that it focuses not on exploring things (like how the cyborg body parts work, or how Doctor Manhattan’s phallus generates a low energy wang pulse) but on exploring people: on the effect crimefighting like that would actually have on you.

I love deconstructions, because what they do is they take plot holes, and follow them through logically. They ask ‘Why is this so?’ and build a story from that, often revealing interesting things along the way.

Look at ‘Toy Story 3’; in many ways, it deconstructs much of ‘Toy Story’ itself. It follows through on that horrible question ‘But what happens when Andy grows up?’

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Exterminatus, apparently. Exterminatus, and Guy Love: it's just love, between two guys.

You see, to the creative mind, a plot hole isn’t a hole. It’s a hook.

Crisis And Opportunity Are The Same Word In Chinese; Helmet and Forehead Are The Same Word In High Gothic

There are many, many plot holes in 40K. Pointing them out is a favoured part of the hobby amongst those weary hipster-40K fans.

‘Why don’t Space Marine Sergeants wear helmets? I mean, I know it’s so I can tell them apart on the tabletop, but really? It just annoys me. It’s so unrealistic.’

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Pictured: a terrifying vision of the dark future.

Unrealistic.

You hear that word used a lot.

So what I’m going to do it look at the fact that Astartes sergeants don’t have helmets, because I think it illustrates the idea I’m trying to get across perfectly: that we should all stop complaining so much about ‘realism’, or telling people ‘just ignore it’, and instead concentrate on embracing the sheer creative joy that is such a central part of this insane little hobby of ours. Instead of complaining, we’re going to create. I put it to you, that our hobby would be improved if, instead of nitpicking, we engaged in a little bit of intellectual and narrative polyfiller.

How?

Well, I'm going to take a single example, and hopefully use that as illustrative of the theory. After a bit of thought about which plot hole might be the best, I've settled on the fact that every marine sergeant model ever photographed by GW is sans helmet; we’re going to assume that that's a deliberate thing, because honestly? A lot of the fluff suggests it is. That Astartes sergeants don’t normally wear their helmets; that, in fact, they go to battle with them off, exactly as the model suggests, rather than saying ‘Oh he’s just taken it off for a bit’. That being a balding, helmetless acromegaly sufferer with an oversized head is actually a core part of Astartes combat doctrine.

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Pictured: wrongness.

Now we’ve made that core assumption, there is a simple question: why? Why on Earth would anyone want to take off a combination gasmask/thermal/IR/UV/EM visor, not to mention the only thing which saves you from turning into Hans The Human Headshot as your chromedome bounces around, reflecting the glorious sun for every sniper and her brother to ping bullets off of until your skull collapses into so much chum?

Why would any trained, professional soldier do this? Worse, why would any genetic super-soldier do so? It runs completely counter to common sense.

I’d like you to watch this clip now. I’ll wait here until you’re done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrN3EgJVXg
Pictured: I… Wait. What? I… WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?!!

No, seriously: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?!!

Culture, my friends. Culture is what’s going on here.

You just watched a small excerpt from a Korean baseball game. And the thing is, this all actually makes perfect sense.

If you know the background.

You see, the gentleman who got hit is, in his homeland, a notorious trouble maker when it comes to the sport. This was a charity match, but, being something of an egotist, he decided to make it look like he wanted a fight with the pitcher. However the pitcher, well aware of his reputation, quickly realised he was being set up, and so did the only logical thing: he decided to fight fire with marshmallows. Instead of fighting the would-be braggard, and getting himself into all manner of trouble, he instead elected to utterly ridicule the very idea of a fight, and take the mickey out of his would-be assailant, by starting to play a game that Koreans play when they are at primary school: it’s called chicken-fighting, and involves standing on one foot and 'fighting' until someone falls down and loses. By doing this, he first avoids a real fight, and secondly, roundly humiliates his opponent, who has no choice but to join in.

At first, the other players run over to stop a fight, but the moment they see the would-be victim’s elegant humiliation of his attacker, they do what every jock in history has done when confronted with something ridiculous: they join in the stupidity, because the day a jock turns down a chance for fun is the day Satan goes to work in a snow-plough.

Culture. From the outside, denied those all important cultural touchstones, we’re Captain America fresh out of the ice. But when we’ve grown up inside it, lived it all our life?

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So why don’t Astartes sergeants wear helmets? Is it some great tactical choice? Do they have adamantium skulls? Do they just like showing off their slap heads?

No. It’s part of their culture.

Characteristic Number Four.

The thing about the Imperium, is that it’s a fascist government all the way down to its corpse-Emperor flavoured core (and yes, I am planning another article on the Imperium’s fascism some day…) A sociologist called Dr. Lawrence Britt identified fourteen characteristics we can use to identify if a society is truly fascist or not. Number four is the one that matters here:

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

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Pictured: being in the military makes you cool. QED, this is cool.

Fascists love the idea of the military. Makes sense really; fascism is a governmental system driven almost entirely by an engine of runaway, imagined terror, and a simple way to overcome fear is through strength – if you perceive yourself to be stronger than the thing you imagine will attack you, you’ll be less afraid.

So runs the logic.

The thing is, the Imperium is utterly justified in its brown-trouseredness. Literally everything is trying to kill its citizens, from ancient space robots to ninja pirate space elves to sentient black holes. The Imperium is fascist because honestly? Fear is the appropriate response.

The thing is, look at the last word in the last sentence of characteristic number four, because that’s the one that matters. ‘Glamorized’. As in appearance. In a fascist regime, it’s not enough to be a soldier. It’s not enough to be competent or professional. Oh heavens, no. No, you have to look good while you’re doing it too. There’s a reason Hitler hired Hugo Boss to design those uniforms – the ones that scream ‘faceless monsters of pure human hatred’ so effectively that every third FPS uses them as inspiration for the endless waves of faceless baddies you end up gunning down.

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Pictured: Por Homme. Hugo Boss

As it is in the real world, so it is in 40K (which, let’s not kid ourselves, rips off literally everything in the real world ever. You know, before running it through the GRIMDARK blender.) The Astartes have to demonstrate not just competence, but the appearance of competence. They have to live their lives as an example of Imperial strength at all times. They’re walking, talking propaganda posters. Want the proof?

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Pictured: KNEEL BEFORE ZOD.

Look at that. That animation was programmed into the frankly excellent ‘Space Marine’ computer game to make it absolutely clear how Space Marines are perceived by the Imperium as a whole. Not as mere soldiers, but as literal angels. Actual angels of death, sent by the Emperor to slay his enemies. To the common ruck of humanity, that’s not hyperbole: that’s what they’re told in church.

Of course, Brother-Captain Tiberius Redshirt knows full well he’s only toughness four with a three up, because he’s no idiot. But he’s got a job to do, and part of that job is looking like the literal embodiment of the Emperor’s Divine Retribution, irregardless of whether you paid the points for his Artificier Armour or not.

A helmet is impersonal. That’s why his men wear it; they embody the Chapter. Brothers both literally and metaphorically, they march as one, so they need to look like alike – uniform, faceless, identical.

But him? He’s the face of the Chapter. So his helmet comes off for two reasons. First, it sends a very clear message:

I am not afraid of you.

Second - and in an idea perhaps more 'alien' to us than some Xenos cultures - he leaves it off for religious reasons. The insane Chapter cults that the Astartes follow are all predicated around inculcating the purest hatred imaginable. The evidence for this is everywhere, but was made most spectacularly manifest with the naming of the old Chaplain rule 'Litanies of Hate'. Marines are taught from their inception that hatred is not only desirable, but natural. To hate is the normal way of things. So why take the helmet off?

Because they want you to look in their eyes while you die.

Because it is important that you, as their enemy, know in your last moments: this is personal to me. Your life? Your deeds? Your entire existence? These things are nothing more to me than a personal insult.

You offend me by simply being.

Astartes are NOT modern soldiers. To apply modern military doctrine to a collection of fanatically religious, genetically-engineered supersoldiers with Chapter histories older than current recorded history, whose idea of a retirement plan is to be sealed into a house-sized coffin armed with a gatling gun and a rocket launcher because being dead makes them a more efficient killer?

That’s a crazy idea.

And that’s before we even get to the fact that Reality Is Unrealistic.

Delusions of Competence

We all think we’re roughly 98% more competent than we actually are. Everyone knows what they’d do in a fire. If the alarm goes off, they’ll be fine. They know what to do.

Except they don’t. There was a fire on the London Tube back when I was a teenager. Awful state of affairs. Many people died. Why?

They literally walked into the fire.

I kid you not. Did British Rail try to stop them? Oh you better believe they did. They had guards on the escalators, barriers in the way, the whole shebang. What happened? People just pushed past them, mostly making snidely patronising comments about how ‘I pay your wages’.

All those people died, in their grey-suited righteousness.

Then there’s that science lesson I was in at school; the fire bell rang, and we all started getting up.

“Sit down!”

“But sir, the fire alarm…”

“Ignore it. We haven’t been told anything about a fire drill today.”

This from a man with two Master’s level degrees.

We all think we’re more clever than we are; that we’d know how we’d react. The simple truth is this: no, you don’t. You just don’t. And that thought is a scary one; the idea that we’re powerless is a terrifying thing, so people ignore it, preferring the comfort of their unfounded assumptions about how they’re the coolest ever.

Even now, how many of us are giggling a little at the anecdotes I quoted, thinking ‘That’d never happen to me?’ Are you sure? Think of your workplace, and then think which door you’d leave by. Because if that’s not the fire door, you’re possibly dead. Most people don’t leave by the fire door in an emergency; they tend to leave by the door they came in through. These doors quickly become metaphorical choke points, just before they become literal ones, and everyone dies of smoke inhalation. And that advice about taking the stairs, because those are safer than the lifts? In a tall enough building, those ‘safe’ stairs become perfect smoke stacks, funnelling all manner of toxic fumes right where everyone’s going to be. Once again, everyone dies. If your building’s tall enough, then it’s actually safer to stay on the topmost floor and just wait to be rescued.

I know all of these facts and many more from a friend who worked in the fire service for fifteen years. He had a very low opinion of human competence, based largely on the silly, avoidable mistakes we make when confronted with something we know nothing about and have no experience of. It was made very clear to me that I had no idea how fire worked, how evacuations functioned and that in an emergency? I'd be deader than GW's Specialist Games systems. We all assume we have all kinds of knowledge, but as a species, we're actually pretty bad at understanding things we have no knowledge of. And I'm not singling myself out here as somehow cleverer; quite the opposite. I'm just as much of a blithering idiot as anyone when it comes to things outside my own, extremely limited, realm of experience.

So why am I drawing attention to this?

Because the ‘You wouldn’t do that!’ argument, used as a simple proof that Astartes sergeants wouldn’t wear helmets? It comes from the same sort of place. It comes from a place that assumes an Astartes thinks much like we do. That an Astartes, who has probably grown up on a feral planet and known a life of little beyond violence, taken in and surgically altered, given more organs than he knows what to do with, implanted and mutilated and brain-melted in so many different ways, then told he’s never going to have a girlfriend ever, but he is going to have more testosterone than he knows what to do with… You’re assuming that guy, the peerless warrior over two centuries old, so used to firing his fully automatic rocket launcher while wearing a mobile tank… That guy is going to worry about a bullet to the face?

Oh, it’ll kill him, sure. But is he going to worry about that? Or will he have imagined his death a hundred thousand times, to the point where he literally has no fear of it at all, because all that means is he gets the aforementioned Death Coffin Of Awesome for a body, so he can kill heretics forever?

Death isn’t a problem for a true Astartes. It’s a bloody promotion. Not to mention, you live forever through your gene-seed. So death? Death is nothing. ATSKNF is more than a clumsy abbreviation; it’s a statement of a literal truth. If you say Astartes should wear helmets because of logic or rational thought, you should remember one key factor:

You are not an Astartes.

They are not like us. And so it is a mistake to apply our thought processes to theirs.

As a final note when thinking about how, apparently, everyone always does whatever is in their own best interests, consider the TV show ‘Person of Interest’. In season 1, the show assumed blanket surveillance of the entire United States by the government, with every message, email and communication being cross-referenced and correlated by a possibly-malevolent government organisation which used that information to conduct extra-judicial killings.

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Pictured: why you should be watching ‘Person of Interest’. I’m serious, why are you here reading this? Go watch it!

Many characters in that show spoke about how ‘If the public knows, there will be outcry. Hearing, examinations, all kinds of problems.’ Then Snowden happened, and it turned out that ‘Person of Interest’ went from sci-fi to prescient warning. And what did the show’s creators have to say?

‘The only thing we got wrong was the reaction. We thought people would be appalled by this infringement of their privacy. Turns out no-one cared.’

Competence is an alluring illusion, but it’s not real; that’s just as valid a truth for 40K as it is for the real world.

So What Is The Point Of All This?

Simple really. The next time you see something 40K-related that doesn’t make sense to you but which is canon anyway, instead of complaining, do what Alan Moore does.

Ask: 'Well, why?' If the answer isn’t technological, or seems to contravene common sense, then what is it in the game universe’s various cultures than means the thing which annoys you is just so? Once you stop seeing 40K from the point of view of an outsider looking in, and start seeing it from an insider looking across, does the previously crazy thing start making sense?

If not, can you find a way to make it?

Wargaming is a hobby like no other, with a wider scope for creativity than literally almost any other. Let’s start living up to that as a community, let’s use those minds to create something better, instead of getting lost in nitpicky nonsense that risks making us all feel silly for ever liking something so apparently stupid.

Houghten
02-27-2015, 07:55 PM
Expect this to end up on the front page within the next seven days.

Also, I feel compelled to point out that some Chapters do do things the way we'd consider "sensible." Raptors, for one.

YorkNecromancer
02-27-2015, 08:45 PM
Also, I feel compelled to point out that some Chapters do do things the way we'd consider "sensible." Raptors, for one.

Oh, indeed. They also get the coolest Chapter Tactics because of that. But they're very much the exception, and not the rule, yes? If they weren't the exception, we wouldn't notice them for it.

Melon-neko
02-27-2015, 11:19 PM
"This helmet, I suppose,
Was meant to ward off blows,
It's very hot,
And weighs a lot,
As many a guardsman knows,
So off that helmet goes!"
—Arac, Princess Ida

Lord Manton
02-28-2015, 12:12 AM
I remember reading in one of the Black Library novels that Space Wolves don't wear their helmets because the sensors and pick ups in them are hugely inferior to their own natural senses. But in practice, I think it has more to do with why you never see Bikies (Hell's Angels style) wearing the closed-face helmets favoured by most motorcyclists: (1) It looks way more badass when you've got shades and a glorious beard flapping in the breeze; (2) said beard would be itchy as all hell smooshed up into one of those helmets.

Great write up, Yorkie, I can see that like many of us, you have put way too much time and effort into thinking about something that has little or no consequence or bearing on the realities of this little game we play, let alone the real world. I, for one, commend you for your efforts. And you can bet I will click on and read this again in a couple of days when it pops up on the front page.

Venomlust
02-28-2015, 12:18 AM
You offend me by simply being.

I think this is my favorite part of the Imperium of Man. All xenos must die.

Denzark
02-28-2015, 03:27 AM
You wrote this for the front page didn't you... I hope all your marking is done.

But there is only one problem, and that is the canon is that they wear their helmets the utmost vast majority of the time. I am not aware (I am prepared to eat humble pie from an appropriately referenced source) that space marine sergeants are renowned for not wearing helmets in the canon.

I thought this was just a quirk of the miniatures which I mostly ignore because of your most excellent point - that genetically engineered super soldiers do not increase their vulnerability, and as to propaganda, the faceless fear they cause - a continuous theme in HH novels, is probably more effective to the target audience you suggest.

Brakkart
02-28-2015, 03:50 AM
Thoroughly enjoyed reading that, some great points. Well done!

YorkNecromancer
02-28-2015, 03:54 AM
Not just the facelessness thing, also forgot to mention how leaving your helmet off can be a logical exchange in 'Deathwatch', where it gains you +10 Fellowship (because your team are inspired by your courage).

Which, now I think of it, is kind of the mathematical proof of the 'walking propaganda' thing...

Charon
02-28-2015, 03:06 PM
But there is only one problem, and that is the canon is that they wear their helmets the utmost vast majority of the time. I am not aware (I am prepared to eat humble pie from an appropriately referenced source) that space marine sergeants are renowned for not wearing helmets in the canon.

There are many sources for some individuals who do not use their helmets.
We could name Uriel Ventris, Ragnar Blackmane (Space Wolves as a whole are reknown for hateing the helmets) and counless other vet sergants across all BL publications. In the Night Lords Books for example when they were boarded by the Genesis Chapter there was a Sergant without a helmet,...

Lurker
02-28-2015, 03:12 PM
Excellent read. I enjoy how you manage to bring psychology and cultural bias into perspective as regards how we the viewer view these things. From a literary standpoint, those things are often forgotten or overlooked in the creative process and can mean the difference between a believable character and a not so believable one.

For myself, I dislike the helmet-less little guys because I despise painting faces. I'm decent enough at it, but would rather see the faceless death machine instead. Also, I (like the outside viewer that I am) wonder why one wouldn't wear a perfectly good helmet if it's available. I used to just assume that the Sergeant/Officer, being a higher priority target, might already have taken a round or two to the face/head and ditched the now useless chunk of metal in favor of actually being able to see. From practical experience, a helmet (non-far future powered one of course) can restrict vision and hearing. On a busy battlefield that can spell disaster. a Sergeant needs to be able to direct his soldiers with as much info as possible.
However, having said that, I agree completely about the psychology behind your rationale. It makes absolute sense to the point of "duh, why didn't I think of that?" I suppose its because I am not an Astartes. :)

Ivarr
03-01-2015, 09:55 AM
Exceptional read. May be, in fact, one of my favorite articles ever posted here.

Having served in the USMC, I always assumed that the leader types did not wear helmets because they would cover up the constant scowl necessary to intimidate subordinates.

Erik Setzer
03-01-2015, 11:22 AM
Orks clap their hands and the drainpipe the Mek superglued a trigger onto suddenly fires bullets?

Okay, I just have to add my personal thoughts on this point.

It's possible that Orks are the most powerful psykers in the galaxy and stuff works just because they believe it. Sure. I mean, they have the two most powerful gods in the 40K universe (evidenced by a story in which they brushed aside the Chaos gods in a bored manner, and the Chaos gods just said, "You know, I think instead of trying to manipulate these guys, we'll just follow behind them and enjoy the emotions they leave in their wake").

But I think it's really just that the Imperium has no idea how Ork technology works, and rather than admit they can't figure something out, they come up with some theoretical explanation of it. It's only really mentioned once, by an Imperial Genetor who couldn't make sense of why Ork technology "shouldn't work" but does for Orks (meaning he just can't figure out the designs). The idea behind them believing red ones go faster and it makes red vehicles actually go faster does have potential for being accurate, and there's already some thought that such things are possible with the human brain (though it's not often seen because people might not know what to look for or just don't believe it's possible). But with shootas and stuff like that, it's much more likely that the Orks just build weapons the Imperium can't figure out, and they explain it away as "Ork magical thoughts." For all we know, there could actually be some built-in part of the technology that assures it doesn't work for other races, much like how at one point (not sure if this is still part of the fluff) a lot of Eldar Aspect Warriors had weapons designed to work only for them, so if it fell into the hands of the enemy, it wouldn't work. The Imperium could accept that Eldar would be so smart, but they still won't even accept that Orks could be smart enough to use strategy and tactics, so naturally they won't believe that Orks could concoct a way that their technology doesn't work for anyone else.

Cap'nSmurfs
03-01-2015, 01:36 PM
This is such a good post. A+, would recommend.

KhornishGameHen
03-01-2015, 04:42 PM
This may be one of my favorite posts on any forum ever, beautifully displayed information and thoughts! This really answered a lot of the problems biting at the back of my mind about 40k, and re-ignited some of my lore-lust!

Lexington
03-01-2015, 05:15 PM
Re: Orks, Meks, drainpipes and psykers, I think anyone who's interested in the subject needs to take a look at Dim_Reapa's excellent post on Orkoid Resonance (http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50468&p=669469) over at The WAAAGH! In fact, just go read that whole thread. It's bonkers how good it is.

JMichael
03-01-2015, 10:18 PM
I've always thought is was not very smart to take your helmet off. So all of my Marines have helmets on!

Charistoph
03-01-2015, 11:02 PM
I've always thought is was not very smart to take your helmet off. So all of my Marines have helmets on!

Mine have it in their culture to never show the enemy face to to the enemy, as they do not deserve the honor. Yes, it is an excuse never to paint flesh, but it's a handy one.

Bob821
03-02-2015, 02:11 AM
My Blood Angels all keep their lids on. I've Just finished fitting a helmet to Astorth and he looks loads better to me. I dont have any random marines with their heads poked out of the top of tanks either.

Dcikfyurt
03-02-2015, 09:25 AM
An intertesting noton, but unfortunately, one that is partially contradicted by the fiction surrounding 40K.

Space Marines (and their Chaos Worshipping betters) take off their helmets for any number of reasons. For some it's to breathe the atmosphere so that they can use their heightened sense of smell (something a respirator would prevent) sometimes it's due to the helmet being damaged or suffering from a malfunction. Sometimes it's just so that the person they're talking to can see their face. The list goes one, but there are multiple reasons why astartes remove their helmets, and if it's in the heat of battle, would you want to have to carry it around? Or would you leave it behind and go back for it after the battle?

The fiction is full of these reasons and more, so if you model your Champion/Lord/Sorcerer (or their corpse-worshipping kin) without a helmet you should feel free to make up any excuse you want.

Yes, you can give ther reason stated in the openning post, as it does make sense.

Braininthejar
03-02-2015, 10:36 AM
I've always thought is was not very smart to take your helmet off. So all of my Marines have helmets on!

So do all but two of mine. The one exception is the librarian, who has to wear that hood of his. (The terminator librarian however, does have a standard helmet with hood wires going into it) The other is sergeant Baradiel of the devastators, who's face is largely cybernetic, because not wearing a helmet has already costed him a half of it.

As for sergeants, I mark them with black shoulder pads and tabards. The idea of giving an officer a bright red helmet with the badge of honour in the middle of his forehead irks me as much as not wearing one in the first place.

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Coming back to the first post, I can agree with some of it. However, even with all its craziness, Warhammer has some standards of realism. Just look at the intro to Dawn of War, where an experienced officer makes a heroically idiotic tactical error and then his heroism no longer matters - he gets a full squad of space marines under his command wiped out within a minute.

Also, a captain has an iron halo - he of all people can afford not to wear a helmet.

joedrache
03-02-2015, 10:42 AM
There are many sources for some individuals who do not use their helmets.
We could name Uriel Ventris, Ragnar Blackmane (Space Wolves as a whole are reknown for hateing the helmets) and counless other vet sergants across all BL publications. In the Night Lords Books for example when they were boarded by the Genesis Chapter there was a Sergant without a helmet,...

Quote from angel exterminatus- kroeger has scaled the fortress wall to the parapet:

Kroeger saw an imperial fists warrior turn towards them, a captain by the look of him. his face registered surprise, and he shouted a warning to another two fists squatting in the midst of a company-strength of frightened mortals.
"No helmet?" hissed kroeger, aiming and firing in one fluid motion. "stupid."

YorkNecromancer
03-02-2015, 10:59 AM
My god... One set of books says Astartes wear helmets... But another says they don't?

IT'S ALMOST LIKE DIFFERENT WRITERS HOLD DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF THE WAY THE FLUFF SHOULD BE INTERPRETED! LIKE SOME THINK IT'S COOL AND SOME HATE IT! AHHHH DAMN YOU INCONSISTENCY!!!

Mock hysteria aside, I think the disparity proves another useful truth quite nicely: there is no one line of thinking in a lot of shared-universe fiction. Tony Stark can be a gentle atoner in Warren Eliis' comics, and a cold-blooded fascist in Bendis'. All we can say is that some writers hold that Astartes wear helmets and look down on those who do not, while other writers hold that Astartes do not, and regard those who do as being mistaken. The final say obviously comes down to the individual - and rightly so - as proven by the people above who have been saying which they prefer and why.

All that really matters is that the decision is logically justified to the character, in-universe, not what the actual decision is.

Which was kind of my original point. :)

Path Walker
03-02-2015, 11:10 AM
It could also be a difference of opinion between the individuals, Kroegar and Talos might think not wearing a helmet is stupid, Ragnar and Ventris might think its better to go without.

Mythology and helmets have a tenuous relationship anyway, how many heroes wear helmets in their depictions? There is a good reason games like WoW and Mass Effect both have options to not display the helmets of PCs

Dlatrex
03-02-2015, 12:49 PM
Pssssshh. I disagree with the premise of this treatis, as it clearly fails the test of historical record. Military practice has ALWAYS chosen form over function. To lose the increased survivability by doffing one's helmet in live battle is preposterous! This is exactly why CO's never have worn any sort of garish uniform to distinguish them from the footmen, as a marksman would surely...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/HoratioNelson1.jpg/250px-HoratioNelson1.jpg

....

Well damn. (Ok Ok, I know it's a legend).

Well played York! Great ideas and very well conveyed. Immersion and accepting that the far future is both tantalizingly recognizable and wholly different than our present culture really helps one appreciate the story and forge the narrative!

cthulhuchewtoy
03-02-2015, 01:17 PM
great article!
One thing: the captain in Space marine takes off his helmet because it is damaged in the free fall fight with the ork armada. Cappy tries to put it back on, but its so dented, it doesn't fit.

Path Walker
03-02-2015, 01:41 PM
Space Marines are always looking for an excuse to chuck their helmet away

Mr Mystery
03-02-2015, 01:51 PM
Especially in games of Inquisitor.

Marine throwing his hat at you did more damage than his Bolter.

Come to think of it, so would throwing the individual rounds from said Bolter.

My priest found that out the hard way...

Grotfather
03-02-2015, 02:47 PM
During the Battle Of Hastings, Duke William (the Conqueror) removed his helmet while in battle to rally his forces after word began to spread he had been killed. This show of bravery and fearlessness emboldened his men exhorting them on to victory. Don't forget that creators and most of the current writers and sculptors are English and this is part of the history of their country they grow up idolizing.

While some would say that this is not applicable to a 40K style shooting war, remember that in that very battle King Harold was fatally wounded by an arrow to the eye basically sealing Norman victory and changing the history and character of England irrevocably.

artemi
03-02-2015, 07:11 PM
This is covered SPECIFICALLY in the HH novel Fulgrim, on page 22-23. "He disdained the wearing of a helmet to prevent the Laer from deciphering his orders over the vox-network, and because he knew that if he were hit in the head by one of the Laer weapons, he was as good as dead, helmet or not."

That said, all my Grey Knights wear helmets. A) because GKs have the coolest looking helmets in the game, and B) because it's easier to paint.

Braininthejar
03-02-2015, 08:09 PM
During the Battle Of Hastings, Duke William (the Conqueror) removed his helmet while in battle to rally his forces after word began to spread he had been killed. This show of bravery and fearlessness emboldened his men exhorting them on to victory. Don't forget that creators and most of the current writers and sculptors are English and this is part of the history of their country they grow up idolizing.

While some would say that this is not applicable to a 40K style shooting war, remember that in that very battle King Harold was fatally wounded by an arrow to the eye basically sealing Norman victory and changing the history and character of England irrevocably.

In William's case it might have been less a matter of brevery and more of his armor being rather generic - he needed to uncover his face to be more recognizable.

Arkhan Land
03-03-2015, 01:13 AM
I dont think its weird that they sometimes dont wear them as much as the fact that they dont still have them witht them most of the time, I have an RT era Captain that has his helmet off but still clipped to his belt. this seemed kind of like the more realistic approach.

Houghten
03-03-2015, 02:55 AM
B) because it's easier to paint.

This is my secret reason. I probably wouldn't have converted my Scouts with Cadian rebreather helms if I were any good at painting eyes. >.>

Darren Richardson
03-03-2015, 07:27 AM
It all boils down to personal taste from a modelling perspective.

from an in-universe approach, different schools of thought allow for such things, for example Commisser's always wear caps rather then helmets because they need the troops under them to see their faces for when inspiring them, Space marine scouts are depicted as never wearing helmets because they need unimpeded views of the battlefield and a helmet restricts that view.

it depends all on the needs at the time or of the job.

This Dave
03-03-2015, 08:33 AM
It all boils down to personal taste from a modelling perspective.

from an in-universe approach, different schools of thought allow for such things, for example Commisser's always wear caps rather then helmets because they need the troops under them to see their faces for when inspiring them, Space marine scouts are depicted as never wearing helmets because they need unimpeded views of the battlefield and a helmet restricts that view.

it depends all on the needs at the time or of the job.

Also, Commissars may know the standard issue Guard brain bucket is about useless and refuses to wear the thing. Back in my Army days we would never wear our old M1 steel pots if we could possibly avoid it.

YorkNecromancer
03-03-2015, 01:34 PM
That said, all my Grey Knights wear helmets. A) because GKs have the coolest looking helmets in the game

Absolutely, yes.


I probably wouldn't have converted my Scouts with Cadian rebreather helms if I were any good at painting eyes. >.>

For Caucasian skin - Rakarth flesh, flesh wash, then Agrax Earthshade carefully applied to the eyesocket. Alternatively, you can use a purple or red wash to suggest sickness.
For African skin - your brown of choice (I like Doombull Brown), followed by Agreax Earthshade/Nuln Oil 50:50 wash, then pure Nuln Oil around the eyes.
For Chaos eyes - As above, but two layers of Nuln Oil followed by a single white dot.
For Psyker Eyes - As Caucasian skin, only with a purple wash, a thin (1mm long) line of black, then a dot of Teclis Blue.

At least that's how I do 'em. Washes and dots, it's the only way. :)

Spencer Dominic Schaepman
03-03-2015, 06:01 PM
I haven't read a tremendous amount of the 40k era novels, mostly HH, but it seems to me that most of the time they do enter battle with helmets on. From the lowest initiate to the Chapter Master, they're all wearing helmets. They end up taking them off because they get damaged or otherwise become more of a hindrance than a help. I specifically recall in the War for Rynn's World stories, which I read recently, Pedro Kantor and the other Crimson Fists captains and sergeants wearing helmets. To me, it stands to reason that with the officers leading from the front and not prone to taking cover (they are astartes after all), they would be more likely to end up with damaged helmets. Combine that with the fact that the miniatures are generally all dynamically posed, as if already in combat, and it stands to reason that a few of them would be helmet-less.

Furthermore, it seems reasonable to me that in the propaganda artwork of the Imperium, it would be normal for the heroic officers to be depicted without helmets, the better to make them seem heroic. The Black Library has often stated that just because something is 'canon' doesn't mean it's true. It could be said that we are reading an 'in universe' version of the story, where the Captains and Sergeants are described as bare headed to make them seem more legendary, not because they are actually going into combat without them. After all, it is highly unlikely that George Washington actually stood in the prow of his boat when crossing the Delaware river. He was probably huddled up in the stern, under a blanket, shivering like everyone else.

ashhaas
06-20-2015, 01:23 PM
This was a great post - very enjoyable. I'd read many more like it. (also an excellent understanding of what makes Watchmen Watchmen).

Ravingbantha
06-20-2015, 07:01 PM
Every time I here someone complain about Space Marines not wearing helmets I remember the scene in 'Black Hawk Down' where Col. Struker is standing next to his Humvee and gunfire all around him, and he's just casually giving orders. It's almost like he couldn't fathom the idea of being killed in combat. I would imagine a Space Marine, who has been fighting for decades would kinda have that same mentality of invulenerability.