Blackadder Proposes a Warmonger Titan of the Emperor Class [Archive] - BoLS Lounge : Wargames, Warhammer & Miniatures Forum

Blackadder

01-01-2015, 01:27 PM

http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics13/img4a1ebdec2854a.jpg

I wasn't up on the nomenclature when I posted the initial proposal thinking the Imperator was the Lucius style and the Emperor was the Mars style.

I'm guessing, it's an epic scale model but whether it is home-made or a kit I have no idea.

Mine (depending when ever I find time to start making it) in it's first iteration will use my standard Warlord legs and foot pads with be plug-in inverted flower pot shaped greaves that will house a couple platoons of foot soldiers (groan) each. the modular features of my Warlord readily allow for the removal of the front and rear toes so the step-like toes of the Warmonger can be installed at the toe hinge points.

The new toes will give at least an inch more of height to the model that and the enhanced superstructure will increase the Warlord's height from 28 inches to around 36 inches (0,91 meters) so the size I am shooting for should be easily attainable. Removal of the Warlord generator housings require less than a minute and the new add on superstructure will plug in the same way. In all it will probably take less than 15 minutes to convert Warlord to Warmonger or back so the project is eminently doable...........when I have the time :D

Darren Richardson

01-01-2015, 02:10 PM

Your not talking about this bugger are you?

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic25570_md.jpg

Dude that's gonna work out about 5-6 feet tall at 40K scale.....

It's insane, DO IT!

40kGamer

01-01-2015, 03:44 PM

Darren Richardson

01-01-2015, 04:31 PM

See this Picture, that's the size scale of one of these babies to a Knight!

12125

Hard to truely see, but a Epic Knight was about the size of it's lower leg!

jodrell

01-01-2015, 04:54 PM

http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics13/img4a1ebdec2854a.jpg

This model is an Epic-scale Lucius pattern Imperator titan, converted by Christian Salling aka "Warmaster Nice" from the original model. You can see more pics of this model here (http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/armies-of-the-imperium/task-force-yggdrasil/).

The Warmonger is a variant of the Imperator that's design for long-range fire support and anti-aircraft. You can see pics of both the unmodified Imperator and Warmonger titans from Epic on this page (http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/armies-of-the-imperium/legio-metalica/) on WMN's website.

Note that there are *three* different scales at work in Epic: ground scale, infantry scale and vehicle scale. Infantry are about 300:1, but vehicles (including titans) are anywhere from 200:1 to 150:1. Ground scale is more like 1000:1 or higher.

Blackadder

01-01-2015, 06:04 PM

Whoa thanks a bunch for all this invaluable information it will certainly come in handy. I shall have to compromise a bit on the size as even FW had to so as to make the construct more believable and not dwarf the other vehicles too badly. but I feel a 3 foot model should be sufficiently impressive none the less.

I particularly like the rear of the leg/foot shot that shall do me in good stead when modifying my Warlord model.

Of course the Warlord will not be compromised in these adjustments but just serve as a basis for fabricated add ons to augment the structure.

Once again I appreciate the trouble you went to furnishing me with these images.

I hope I can justify your effort.

Tyrendian

01-01-2015, 06:44 PM

I hope I can justify your effort.

I think I speak for pretty much everyone 'round 'ere that's seen any of your work when I say: "You already have, many times over!"

Darren Richardson

01-02-2015, 02:49 AM

I think I speak for pretty much everyone 'round 'ere that's seen any of your work when I say: "You already have, many times over!"

Ditto

Blackadder

01-02-2015, 08:30 AM

Walking Cathedrals, Some Thoughts on the Construction:

Never having taken any courses in art or design I probably have no business making this compilation of what I perceive to be construction errors that seem prevalent in many of the Emperor Titans 'Imperators'.

First of all regarding size there is a limit of practicality where while a two meter tall Emperor Titan may be impressive it is hardly a playable piece unless the titan itself is the game board. Rather it will be relegated to the store window of your local Gamesworkshop where when that one is closed will subsequently be consigned to the dumpster behind the soon to be renovated store.

Because who has the room for such an out-sized monstrosity?

So I set my limit at 33 to 36 inches (0,83820 to 0,91440 meters).

Next problem is the slab sided blockiness of the greaves, hull, carapace, and cathedral appurtenances; with out being specific by showing images of others work I will demonstrate with a minor area of my own construction.

Back in the days of my initial Warlord build I happened to make the rear bulkhead of my Engineering compartment too square.

http://i.imgur.com/nZH84.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nZH84l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hN7XM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hN7XMl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o9kIR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o9kIRl.jpg

The subtle tapering of the lower rear panel and the angling of the lower edge of the carapace rear differs from the square lower edge and panel of DS's exceptionally fine 'miniature' and to me is much more aesthetically pleasing.

Next post please............

Levaticus

01-02-2015, 03:56 PM

Like all of your projects i eagerly await to see the final product.

Blackadder

01-02-2015, 04:31 PM

Like all of your projects i eagerly await to see the final product.

Why? As with all of my projects I am so sorry to see their completion because the fun is over and then I just have to start over again on something else

Can this be analogous to 'Postpartum depression?' :D

Tools of the Trade:

There has been a few questions regarding the amount of tools necessary to build my projects. I do have a lot of special tools that I need for work. I have been a mechanic all my adult life but to work on styrene models the material being so soft and malleable I find the most basic hand tools are sufficient to perform any of the work you see here.

Aside from the tools pictured here I would add an X-acto razor saw and the small diameter X-acto knife with a goodly supply of the # 11 blades.

When I get into the fine detail work I will break out my Jeweler's files as well but aside from that this is all I have used so far on the Thunderhawk.

http://i.imgur.com/MVFO2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/MVFO2)

You can see that:

A good quality combination square is essential.

A good quality utility knife with a supply of sharp blades.

A medium sized X-acto knife handle with #18 X-acto chisel blade. chisel.

A wooden cutting board is essential as opposed to one of those plastic self healing cutting mats. That's just my preference but I'm a creature of habit.

A 8" sized single cut file.

Home made sanding blocks with coarse and 80 grit sandpaper adhered with double back tape

A 6" scale graded in 1/64th inch and millimeters.

A calculator

Sharp Pencils

I use Ambroid ProWeld thin plastic cement but as the brush is so clunky and thick and the bottle so easy to tip over I refill the Tamiya thin plastic cement bottle; it has a much more stable bottle and a very fine tipped brush. When the fluid level in the bottle gets too low I drop in a few glass marbles to raise the level.

Absolon

01-03-2015, 12:49 PM

It's a large model when completed
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc337/deathstrike01/titan.jpg (http://s525.photobucket.com/user/deathstrike01/media/titan.jpg.html)

Blackadder

01-03-2015, 01:00 PM

I hope to include more detail in my tinier version.

Some thoughts on the choice of materials:

Materials:

I've seen styrene foam, cardboard, Foam filled posterboard, wood, plastic paneling, & etc. used and I made the mistake of using foam filled posterboard on two of my constructs; the Warhound Lucie and the Thunderhawk and I have to relate I have always regretted not using styrene sheets throughout the construction.

The problem is getting everything to hold together, the different materials require different glues which usually are incompatible with the other surfaces. You spend more time, effort, cost of resins and epoxies plus hours of drying time and sticky residue on everything including fingers, clothing, furniture, computer keyboards, and whatnot than it would be to just bite the bullet, and spend a few more bucks and go full styrene for the whole project. I purchase my sheet styrene from commercial plastic wholesalers usually found in most industrial parks. I buy small 3 foot X 6 foot sheets for about 16 bucks each in 3 thicknesses 0.020, 0.030 and 0.040 because that's what my local supply stocks and they're only a half hour round trip from me. I purchase about three sheets a year give or take.

I find it more economical to not use thicker styrene 0.060 and 0.080 except in special areas where excessive strength is required because it's too hard to cut with your standard utility knife and it's about 3 times more expensive than 2 sheets of thinner styrene sandwiched together but that's your choice.

As a point of fact I only used 2,0 MM sheet styrene on the soles of my Warlord's foot pads and nowhere else in the entire construction.

I do have quite a collection of 'Evergreen styrene strips, tubes, and rods, and i spend about $20 bucks a month on it including glue and paint which when you think about it is pretty cheap for the amount of recreational fun you get from scratch-building. Granted the initial outlay is daunting, probably two to three hundred dollars for everything you need as far as materials but if you keep up with maintaining your inventory that is the only major outlay you will have to make.

In closing a couple of images of my plastic stock mounted with push pins on corrugated cardboard.

http://i.imgur.com/xfbZKCN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xfbZKCNl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/A0MYFTk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A0MYFTkl.jpg

Someday I'll find some cubicle wall dividers and do the set up properly. It saves a lot of time mounting your stock like this instead of rummaging through a couple hundred bags for the strip you need.

Blackadder

02-11-2017, 03:23 PM

Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

So with the blurb ten months ago about my proposal to begin an Imperator Titan I kinda fell flat on my face.

First, finishing up the Thunderhawk monopolized a good deal of my time and learning how to best incorporate lighting in said Thunderhawk and my Warlord engaged yet more time. Then the Presidential election captured my attention almost to the exclusion of all things else. Finally I have returned to normalcy with what I consider a fabulous idea to make a hip and lower torso mount commensurate with an automaton of this magnitude.

So we shall begin with the 'pelvis' which I found ready made on my local Lowes Building center where I purchased about six bucks worth of PVC pipe fittings A compression fitting Tee, a threaded coupling for the connection to the upper torso and two more for the hips connections.

http://i.imgur.com/u2Jmn7x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u2Jmn7xl.jpg

Naturally all this is quite utilitarian and looks exactly what it is, some pipe fittings and there are many titans that follow this procedure and leave the fittings as is. I intend to flesh out the assembly in styrene so as to hide all the piping that will only serve as an armature or skeleton for the model.

In the image below you will get an idea of how much more robust this construct will be compared to the pelvis and hips of my Warlord.

http://i.imgur.com/ZnV8V8v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZnV8V8vl.jpg

Where as Luteus Vexant has hips trunnions about an inch in diameter 'Invictus' shall have 1.5 inch axles.

The beauty of this ready made construction technique is I shall be able pivot the waist and separate the model easily and hopefully allow the legs to be posed in a walking position as well as the spraddle-legged pose.

http://i.imgur.com/iHv6TFE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iHv6TFEl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4KsMObK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4KsMObKl.jpg

Blackadder

02-14-2017, 03:52 PM

Pelvis Engineering Compartment Floor:

This time I'm going to do it right.

Since I already have an idea of how large this titan will be and the fact that I do want a full interior I will be able to plan the layout as I build. None of the hit or miss second guessing I ran into on the Warlord titan

Below are the two pieces of the Engineering base and Pelvis 82 MM square with two center holes for the waist shaft 21 MM diameter. The pieces are 2 MM thick styrene, one of the few time I work with such thick styrene because of the difficulty forming it and the danger of a knife blade slipping and cutting your hand. Extreme care should be exercised when cutting 2,0 MM styrene

http://i.imgur.com/zDkryhO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zDkryhOl.jpg

The plates slip over the Tee shaft and have a clearance of 1MM on either side to install the 1 MM side walls.

http://i.imgur.com/N0buMb6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N0buMb6l.jpg

Eventually there will be nothing showing of the Tee but the compression fittings that will serve as the hip joint housing and also allow the legs to be removed to re-position for posing.

You might want to try building along with this thread because I intend to offer a step by step tutorial at least for the basic structure. How you detail the model is up to you but I'll show what I consider an Lucius Pattern Emperor titan should look like and you can build your walking turreted cathedral if you wish.

Blackadder

02-15-2017, 12:58 PM

Okay so I had some 3/8 inch box beams (Plastruct) laying about so I used them as spacers to thicken the construction and give it strength to boot. Then if I need to modify it later it will be easier to sand down instead of a solid block.

http://i.imgur.com/a8Qgxh0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a8Qgxh0l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FIQUh3s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FIQUh3sl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RwtL7aC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RwtL7aCl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LkzMGrT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LkzMGrTl.jpg

This all seems pretty boring and I hope to get into the fancy stuff soon. Right now giving this heavy model (My warlord upper body weighs seven pounds) a strong basic structure is paramount.

Blackadder

02-16-2017, 02:00 PM

Basic Pelvis Block Complete:

With thsi post the basic pelvis is complete. All that is left is applying the detail. I may bevel the corners and edges to add more pizzazz as I did on the Thunderhawk but all that is cosmetic.

http://i.imgur.com/zJQSzyE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zJQSzyEl.jpg

The Epic Imperator is very plain and you can let your imangination run wild with the amount of detail a 3 foot tall model requires. I have a good stock of City of Dead panels left over from my Warlord and I have a Fortress of Redemption to decorate the greaves if needs be.

http://i.imgur.com/2oMX14M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2oMX14Ml.jpg

I used 0.040 thousandths styrene to sheath the pelvis and sanded the edges smooth; there's not really much to say about the step except to take great pains to make your angles square and true. Good enough is never "Good Enough"; that's my motto.

http://i.imgur.com/PUPtHYJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PUPtHYJl.jpg

A few extra pains taken now will save you a lot of grief later.

http://i.imgur.com/Jp3YsLu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Jp3YsLul.jpg

Meph

03-04-2017, 09:56 AM

Awesome! Another build with oodles of detail to gawk at. Front row seat booked!

Blackadder

03-04-2017, 11:44 AM

Thanks for the reply,

Getting the right angle:

I've wracked my brains trying to come up with a way to manufacture legs that were angled slightly akimbo (about 10%) so my Warmonger can be posed in the classic manner. Most of the pipe fitting models I have seen have the legs parallel to each other and it looks boxy and strange to the artistic eye. Never mind that parallel legs or even legs canted in to a pigeon toed stance are more amenable to a proper walking gate. For a static stance nothing compares to the rock solid look of a spraddled posture.

This realized, getting the proper fittings is out. You have three choices; 90°, 45°, and 22.5° and that's it, so to get the requisite 10° I'll have to manufacture them.

Here's my solution:

I bought two caps and drilled and taped two 1/4 20 NC threads into the caps and short threaded coupling. I purposely made two different angles, one 10° and one about 12°, as once the legs are built I can chose which angle I like better or maybe keep both for a bit of variation. I screwed in two 6 inch threaded rods that will serve as the thigh shafts, thin and strong and able to support the ten pounds or more of the upper body when finished.

http://i.imgur.com/tPwX9xN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tPwX9xNl.jpg

Next I slipped two styrene tubes over the threaded rods that will serve as the glue base for all the thigh shaft construction and ultimately the detail of the upper legs.

http://i.imgur.com/TUygS3w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TUygS3wl.jpg

Your pardon for the hiatus but I took a last minute vacation for the past few weeks to clear my head and tour Florida.

Blackadder

03-06-2017, 03:06 PM

Thanks for the reply,

Two Steps Back:

Found these dynomite compression couplings that are just made for this construct so scrap the rods and the sleeve for the nonce and work on cropping the length of the assembly.

http://i.imgur.com/rDXJWCH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rDXJWCHl.jpg

By cutting off the octagons I managed to crop the length by about 30 MM which makes the extreme width of the hips 12.5 inches (31.75 CM) compared to my Warlord's 10.5 inches (26.67 CM) which should be just right for a scale:180 to 200 ft (54 to 61 meter) tall Emperor Titan.

http://i.imgur.com/bLFeR7p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bLFeR7pl.jpg

Morgrim

03-07-2017, 06:59 AM

So does that mean the new parts flex in a way that means you don't need to have the angled rods, or does that mean the angled rods just need to be drilled and installed in the new components later?

Blackadder

03-07-2017, 10:46 AM

So does that mean the new parts flex in a way that means you don't need to have the angled rods, or does that mean the angled rods just need to be drilled and installed in the new components later?

The new hip caps are sufficiently detailed to stand alone with some proper embellishments plus they are thick enough to hold a longer thread. I can now drill and tap into the cap straight on and make the angle adjustment inside the sleeve by canting the thigh tube on the threaded rod; an even more durable connection than the previous design. Once I get the legs assembled I can refine the connection with countersunk 1/4 20 screws recessed to allow for the inner threads of the caps allowing the model to be posed in a walking and a spraddle-legged stance with a minimum of adjustment; the best of both worlds.

Blackadder

03-08-2017, 01:44 PM

If you thought the Warlord was inspiration wait til you get a load of this.

Oh God I'm In Love:

Look what I just found! Before I started this I had so-so enthusiasm for this project thinking it's worth a shot making a easy to build Emperor Titan that my readers might attempt along with me but that stops now!

I am totally jazzed about this project since I found this head. Back when I began my Warlord finding Dave Smith's Epic rendering committed me to the project. That is what finding this image has done.

http://i.imgur.com/Y2qZ5Cv.png
http://i.imgur.com/Y2qZ5Cvl.png

Starting now I'm going to build this part full sized (as it prints out on Landscape 8.5 X 11 paper) and build the rest of the titan in proportion.

The overall size is just about an inch bigger than my Warlord's head overall so it is in keeping with my projected height for my Emperor.

This is going to be 'dynomite!' if I can accomplish it.

Blackadder

03-09-2017, 03:19 PM

Simple As Falling Off A Log:

When I started this thread I said to myself, "I'm going to make this model as simply as I can just to see what can be done with off the shelf items readily available to the judicious builder.

I planned this so anyone can make one of these along with me.

http://i.imgur.com/57b5tEn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/57b5tEnl.jpg

Here we have about $25 bucks worth of plastic pipe fittings, and model styrene. A $3.50 bottle of conditioner (We just need the bottle and a bit of imagination (Supplied by your's truly :D) and a fantastic head image to work off of, all you need is a cheap printer........

So with these parts gathered there should be no problem making the head and hip components.

http://i.imgur.com/UM5Uizc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UM5Uizcl.jpg

The next part is a bit of a lark on my part; you're going to need an old beach chair. We've all seen them usually tossed in the rubbish with a broken hinge mechanism but usually two or three still functioning and all we need is two.

http://i.imgur.com/PiTcJro.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PiTcJrol.jpg

These will form working knee joints, I hope, with a bit of ingenuity.

http://i.imgur.com/f5Z1vAb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5Z1vAb.jpg

Of course it's not necessary to have flexing knees but since I have the chair I might as well go for the gusto. ;-)

Meph

03-10-2017, 02:16 AM

The McGuyver is strong in this one! :D I like!

Blackadder

03-10-2017, 01:45 PM

Neck:

The coupling being PVC is not compatible with styrene so I applied a veneer of 0.015 sheet styrene so parts and detail can be added.

http://i.imgur.com/ijcMkcJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ijcMkcJl.jpg

I then roughed in the cutout coordinates for the head to neck connection.

http://i.imgur.com/fI28OOL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fI28OOLl.jpg

The large round cylinder just below the helmet where the ears would be I am assuming is the neck/skull joint to allow the head to tilt down. Likewise the flexible conduits on either side of the chin.

Why not call these by their anatomical names. The so-called "Command Bridge is very skull-like.

Blackadder

03-10-2017, 02:39 PM

Jaw Cut Out:

Using my vibrating saw it was a simple matter cutting out the jaw recess in the coupling.

http://i.imgur.com/V33rgGl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V33rgGll.jpg

The neck is now ready for shaping and detailing.

http://i.imgur.com/KoJVjmG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KoJVjmGl.jpg

Incidentally my Chicago Electric vibrating saw is a must have tool for hobbying;

http://www.harborfreight.com/variable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-62867.html

This cut would be really difficult with virtually any other device other than a hand tool and my $25 dollar saw was a tremendous time saver. It took about five minutes to make this cut including the blade swap.

Meph

03-12-2017, 11:22 AM

The right tool for the right job! :D

Blackadder

03-14-2017, 02:22 PM

Snow Bound:

So to while away the weather front I did some work on the neck which I have to admit is coming out better than expected. I sheathed the coupling on 0.040 thousandths styrene to three layers and then proceeded to bevel the rear edges 45° as in the drawing.
http://i.imgur.com/Z9duybo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z9duybol.jpg

As you can see below there is quite a bit of cutting to get the 45° bevel in the front edge ............

http://i.imgur.com/gZQcNh6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gZQcNh6l.jpg

but my 'Farmers file' was up to the task.

http://i.imgur.com/BTujlxG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BTujlxGl.jpg

The forward bevel needs to be refined but is okay for the moment while I make the inner neck mechanism so the head can be tilted down. My previous Warlord has this capability but the mechanism is very clunky and I am hoping to refine it on this model.

http://i.imgur.com/TbMVdfC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TbMVdfCl.jpg

Finally I found this collar that will work very well in the scheme I have in mind for the side to side movement of the head and fits into the Emperor design quite well.

http://i.imgur.com/Ofba1Op.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ofba1Opl.jpg

Can anyone guess the source of this wondeous bit of sculpting?

Blackadder

03-16-2017, 11:54 AM

2D vs 3D

I'm getting way ahead of myself with this head assembly so I put the brakes on to pitch an update. After scraping my initial idea of how the head assembly can tip forward on the neck I came up with this solution which will give me a lot more cockpit room for the crew. There also is a poetic license taken by the artist who drew the front and side reliefs of the Command Bridge. The huge ear discs that contain the head tilting mechanism cannot function as drawn and are of different sizes in the drawing. Never mind though, I have a solution.

I'll start with cutting the forward neck ring to allow the discs to mount flat to the sides of the neck.

http://i.imgur.com/mvwGHMu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mvwGHMul.jpg

Carving out an outer race for the gimbal head mount pad and gluing on the gimbal bases is what is shown here. The two 0.040th inch discs are 71 MM apart and 56 MM in diameter.

http://i.imgur.com/gkvcxbH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gkvcxbHl.jpg

The bridge truss maintains the distance and keeps the gimbals square to each other and stabilizes the bases

http://i.imgur.com/uFbVKve.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uFbVKvel.jpg

Bottom view showing the forward ring carved out to accommodate the gimbal bases.

http://i.imgur.com/ZpFupBN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZpFupBNl.jpg

Next, the manufacture of the gimbals mounts. (The area left black in the 2D drawing.)

Blackadder

03-17-2017, 12:28 PM

Gimbals:

Or Trunnions whatever, These truncated discs will support the head on the neck to allow it to look down in a purely theatrical way as a downward pointing camera would be just as effective but the menace of this skull staring down at it's victim is too good to pass up.

http://i.imgur.com/TxBpE0G.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TxBpE0Gl.jpg

Above; the disc is a simple truncated construct featuring two circles 45,0 and 54,0 MM separated by 2,0 MM by 4,8 MM styrene spacers.

http://i.imgur.com/fIfj5Yf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fIfj5Yfl.jpg

Unfortunately I got the angle wrong so I have to re-sheath the bevel but that's not a big deal.

http://i.imgur.com/J7JtoOQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J7JtoOQl.jpg

Tomorrow I hope to be working on the cockpit.

bloodangel 83

03-18-2017, 09:17 AM

Keep up the great work and I also am following this great build

Blackadder

03-18-2017, 02:53 PM

Thanks for the reply,

The Visor:

Allowing for the helmet I mounted the gimbals with extended visor mounts made of 0.015 thousandths sheet styrene. As I don't really have a plan for the cockpit, chin or gullet piece all this is subject to change but at least now I understand how the cheek pieces work with the gimbals.

http://i.imgur.com/dybKoJX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dybKoJXl.jpg

I suppose the best thing is to cut the helmet to see where it falls in relation to the ears (gimbals) and the amount of clearance required to allow the head to lower and raise.

http://i.imgur.com/LEecGev.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LEecGev.jpg

Somehow I managed to guess right which moving part eclipses which and for that I am grateful.

http://i.imgur.com/a8ra21q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a8ra21ql.jpg

Later on this evening I'll cut the helmet but I need to relax a bit after this thoroughly draining exercise in design. Martini Time!!!!!

Blackadder

03-22-2017, 07:01 AM

Helmet:

My initial thought was to use a suitably shaped bottle to form the helmet but after experimentation I found that was unsatisfactory for my obsessive compulsive mindset. I opted instead for building up the helmet out of stratified layers of styrene and cutting the helmet out of the resulting block in much the same manner as I did for my Warlord Titan

http://i.imgur.com/gxEB51B.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gxEB51Bl.jpg

This also relieves me of the necessity of finding a suitable glue for mating the different sources of plastic......

http://i.imgur.com/uAIDHK3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uAIDHK3l.jpg

It's bad enough that I had already go through the identical thought processes in making my Warlord but to have not learned for my previous effort defies logic. :(

Morgrim

03-23-2017, 05:35 AM

Cactus

03-23-2017, 09:17 AM

Is this project going faster than your Warlord?

Blackadder

03-23-2017, 02:09 PM

Oh wow. I'm mildly surprised there aren't suitable blocks of styrene that can be carved rather than laminating so much. But I suppose precutting the layers, while time consuming, means less hacking bits off later.

Carving a solid block of styrene would be daunting and expensive. I have plenty of scrap material on hand and industrial quality to boot so this is the least expensive way to go. While Styrene is soft and easy to shape it melts and jams saw blades and sanding discs when attempting to shape large masses. I'll begin shaping today and post an update.

Is this project going faster than your Warlord?

Hard to tell, right now about the same but a lot of preliminary guess work was already done on the Warlord so mainly it's just design and detail changes plus I won't be going nuts on the movable joints this time.

Blackadder

03-24-2017, 01:55 PM

Ready To Begin Shaping:

The layering is complete and all needs be done is the shaping

http://i.imgur.com/aK44D0O.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aK44D0Ol.jpg

I made the helmet about an eighth inch over sized per inch to allow for carving and sanding

http://i.imgur.com/axEuWUo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/axEuWUol.jpg

Tomorrow I should be well along on the paring down to the rough dimensions.

http://i.imgur.com/l0WOVlJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l0WOVlJl.jpg

Blackadder

03-25-2017, 11:57 AM

First and Second Contour Cuts:

Most of which are done on a stationary belt sander.

http://i.imgur.com/7RO8KiC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7RO8KiCl.jpg

One more preliminary contour cut to make.....

http://i.imgur.com/SVQpT3F.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SVQpT3Fl.jpg

The sides have to be rough sanded at about 45° before the finishing contour sanding.

http://i.imgur.com/VYPbiO9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VYPbiO9l.jpg

Meph

03-26-2017, 11:17 AM

That shape is staring to, well, shape up nicely. :)

Blackadder

03-26-2017, 03:34 PM

Thanks for the reply,

Rough Shaping:

Final rough shaping involves truing up the block to 90° then cutting a 45° bevel each side and finally two 22.5° bevels each side on top and sides.

http://i.imgur.com/9DUyTiT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9DUyTiTl.jpg

Next (and this is the tricky part because it takes a bit of an eye for roundness) sanding off the excess in a controlled arc movement on the sanding belt.

http://i.imgur.com/bdNKxBZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bdNKxBZl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8vAqAXM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8vAqAXMl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/W0ZiUMI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W0ZiUMIl.jpg

so the helmet has a slightly flattened ovoid shape in cross section.

Blackadder

03-28-2017, 01:27 PM

Basic Helmet and Head

Well it took far more time than I thought but I do finally have the basic helmet cut to size.

http://i.imgur.com/P1eCper.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P1eCperl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fNkomQv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fNkomQvl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/J6b7rWg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J6b7rWgl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5egDBeZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5egDBeZl.jpg

The rear view shows how much I cut out of the interior so I can add the under helmet detail when the cockpit is complete. I may still remove a lot of the inside material but for now it's sufficient as the helmet is as fragile as an eggshell with out it's interior framing.

http://i.imgur.com/n4znz4T.png
http://i.imgur.com/n4znz4Tl.png

BTW you may have noticed the background image. This is what I am hoping the finished Titan will look like but leaner and longer legs.

Meph

03-28-2017, 01:37 PM

Muy bien, señor, muy bien.

Blackadder

03-30-2017, 01:56 PM

Suffice it to say I am not happy how this helmet is turning out so I am revamping it. Update coming soon.

Meanwhile:

I naturally assumed my Warlord crew would fit into an Imperator head but never really checked so while I'm waiting to complete the face shield I just tried them for size.....

There's plenty of room; even for a Princep and a few attendees And a cadre of Tech Priests as well.

http://i.imgur.com/Hgx7B75.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Hgx7B75l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ApSGtc4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ApSGtc4l.jpg

Meph

03-30-2017, 02:03 PM

Oh? What's the hickup?

Blackadder

03-30-2017, 06:40 PM

I just didn't like it. I can do better. I've never been afraid to strive for perfection. Compromise is the downfall. Once you accept second best you'll be wasting your time.

Blackadder

04-03-2017, 07:03 AM

Now It Can Be Told:

Now that I have resolved the issue I can reveal why I had to revamp the helmet. It all boiled down to an assumption on my part that the artist drawing the two elevations of the head was a draughtsman. In a proper draught you project lines from one plane to another and ideally there should be a top elevation as well but I accepted the two elevations as sufficient for my 3D rendering. I built my model slightly oversized than the plan as I wanted the 'head' to be larger than my Warlord's head as the finished model will be 10 to 12 inches taller than my Warlord. I blissfully used the side elevation for all my calculations and after laminating all the layers proceeded to sand the contours of the helmet but after the rough sanding was completed I found the helmet dome was significantly flattened.

http://i.imgur.com/8vAqAXM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8vAqAXMl.jpg

It did not have the look of the front elevation at all. Needless to say I was extremely disappointed as I had based my interior design and mechanism on the front projection......

http://i.imgur.com/56WnEFl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/56WnEFll.jpg

Rather than scrap the helmet and start afresh I opted to build on the original to increase the height of the dome which is seen in these to images. It was last night that I managed to glue in the compound curved pieces requisite to obtain a smooth contour; the final pieces to be installed later this morning.

http://i.imgur.com/2QebzHA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2QebzHAl.jpg

So with this setback resolved I can continue with the building of the head; my obsessive compulsive integrity intact.

Blackadder

04-04-2017, 06:30 AM

A Cure for a Rainy Day:

After a rough rounding sanding I scored the armour panel lines. First with my utility knife. Then with razor saw and finally with xacto keyhole saw blade
https://www.widgetsupply.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/x-acto-x215-5pc-no-15-keyhole-saw-2016-main_519x340.jpg

to widen the gaps between the armour

http://i.imgur.com/rer2DpT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rer2DpTl.jpg

Now the helmet is ready for wet sanding which will hopefully remove the striation lines.

http://i.imgur.com/Vuhruvo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vuhruvol.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iKwkjcl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iKwkjcl.jpg

Now we're back to making the visor.

Haighus

04-04-2017, 04:14 PM

Bloody hell, this is an amzing project you've got going here! I am going to keep following this. Great work so far! I can honestly say that this is so far shaping up the be the best looking Imperator I've yet seen.

Also, you are pretty much spot on with the height- whilst sizes have been all over the place in the past, the current official height equates to about 3 foot based on the FW models of other titans and GW materials. The stuff in the BL novels can be considered largely propaganda in this sense.

Blackadder

04-05-2017, 05:49 PM

Thanks for the reply and the input, glad to have you along.

Crest:

The crest seemed a daunting task but after the helmet it was child's play. I began by laminating six layers of 0.030 thousandths styrene last night because 1/4 inch styrene is too expensive and to hard to work with plus 0.030 is what I had on hand.

I then scribed two lines and equa-spaced the drill points with my vernier calipers.

I used my #11 Xacto blade to deepen the drill points and hand drilled 1/16" pilot holes for the scallops.

http://i.imgur.com/I6LWbhV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/I6LWbhVl.jpg

Then I drilled 1/8 inch holes to center the 1/4 inch final holes for the scallops.

http://i.imgur.com/shluvZ1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/shluvZ1l.jpg

After drilling the 1/4 inch holes I cut off the excess material and sanded to the appropriate half hole depth.

http://i.imgur.com/5ugL5iz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5ugL5izl.jpg

Haighus

04-06-2017, 03:26 PM

Good looking crest. I am looking forward to seeing the visor take shape.

Blackadder

04-07-2017, 07:06 PM

Spear Heads:

Spear Head ornaments are tedious but worth the effort. There are probably easier ways to make them but I want mine to have a 3D bas-relief so I made mine out of 0.040 thousandths styrene. Below we see one in place on the helmet and the rest in various states of manufacture. When doing something like this I allows make a few extra so I don't have to start from scratch. You never know when you might need a spare.
Start by making an undersized template (marked 'T'), trace the points on a piece of scrap styrene, cut them out with scissors (yeah it's that simple,) Drill your pilot holes, Cut the corner holes with your; surgical diagonal cutters, Fingernail cutters, Dikes, what-have-you, use your rat tail needle files to make the spade base compare you work to the finished and make the proper adjustments with you, curved nail file and you're done.

http://i.imgur.com/fFxZ4If.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fFxZ4Ifl.jpg

Now do it twelve more times or more........

http://i.imgur.com/84L1tlJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/84L1tlJl.jpg

See you tomorrow.

Blackadder

04-08-2017, 12:53 PM

Bada ba ba baaaa I'm Lovin' It:

Funny how these ungainly projects grow on ya. At first I was mildly interested in this project. A lot of people requested I give it a go so for the past few years I accumulated various plastic bitz that looked like they might go on a quicky Imperial Titan that anyone sufficiently motivated could build. I still have baskets of the junk; bottlecaps recyclable containers and the like and I finally solved the pelvis dilemma but until I saw the head for lack of a better term I had little enthusiasm feeling that I had reached the pinnacle of Titan manufacture in my Warlord.

http://i.imgur.com/hvfBsqo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hvfBsqol.jpg

Now I am in a quandary because this Titan will eclipse my previous effort but Damn I am getting really fond of this beastie.

http://i.imgur.com/izMrl2e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/izMrl2el.jpg

The front view shows up on the image more so than in person that the spearhead gusset on the right side is longer than that corresponding one on the left. that will have to be fixed but overall I am pleased with the outcome. I made my darts a tad larger than that in the computer image as I couldn't translate the drawing into an actual model. But it seems close enough and even as I write this I get the depression of compromise.

http://i.imgur.com/jRCmP0p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jRCmP0pl.jpg

But no; that way madness lies.

and it's still two hours to Martini Time... Dang!

Haighus

04-09-2017, 03:29 AM

To be honest, I think the larger darts looks better than those on the computer design. Deviating from it to create a better overall aesthetic shouldn't be compromise, think of it as improvement ;)

Blackadder

04-09-2017, 12:47 PM

Thanks,

The Perfection of Asymmetry:

When you look at the Darth mask you are thrilled with the evilness of the visage but split the image and reverse it mirror image wise and you will see the resulting perfect symmetry of either the left or right is not nearly as disturbing. We are all different people when we see ourselves in a photograph. With the magic of the computer we can splice together the left and right images of our face and see two entirely different people neither recognizable as ourselves.

http://i.imgur.com/N07NveX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N07NveXl.jpg

That is where I am with this visor. That and the printout I made is too small. The 0.030" plastic cutout I made directly below the helmet assembly seems to be of the correct size.

Also the visor wraps around the helmet so the front view is foreshortened therefor I must allow for that by adding what i estimate a quarter inch (6,3 MM) to each side........

Fun and games, Right?

Blackadder

04-09-2017, 07:54 PM

Facial Planes:

We're going to experiment with this visor as I don't have an overhead projection so I made the angle gussets flexible until I see how the 'face shapes up.

http://i.imgur.com/9ysjqn4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ysjqn4l.jpg

That way I can make the minimal adjustments required for an approximation of the artist's intent.

http://i.imgur.com/Qc99a8q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qc99a8ql.jpg

Note the strips in the foreground. The one with the heavy pencil line glues to the inner surface of the visor. It is slightly scored so it acts as a hinged gusset. It can sustain a minimum of flexing before fatiguing the same as the visor plate. Once I am satisfied with the position of the visor planes I'll reinforce the the back side of the visor to hold the shape.

Haighus

04-10-2017, 09:14 AM

Looking good!

Blackadder

04-10-2017, 09:49 AM

Raising the Ears:

When I was a kid going to the barber was called, "having your ears lowered." Well in this case the operative word is raised. and bring the ears forward and shorten the helmet.

BTW after having been to the barber, you had "White walls."

http://i.imgur.com/AeNn6yB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AeNn6yBl.jpg

Anyway this side view projection shows I need to cut the helmet a minimum of 6 MM (one quarter inch) on each side and shorten the length almost half an inch (13,0 MM) which necessitates re-positioning the spear points.

http://i.imgur.com/eNjbnNv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eNjbnNvl.jpg

Or I may just go with three after the one in the forehead.

http://i.imgur.com/8stjVq5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8stjVq5l.jpg

The close up also doesn't do it for me; Fah!

http://i.imgur.com/xa0CkQU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xa0CkQUl.jpg

Blackadder

04-12-2017, 07:55 AM

Family Portrait:

Who's your Daddy? I accomplished a whirlwind revamp of the Command Deck aka the 'Head' shortening the rear overhang (Wait, he is talking about the head of this beastie not the loo???) but I did leave the *****comb alone. (he is talking about the loo!)

Seen here along side my Warlord to give a proper scale.

http://i.imgur.com/NvG8rtI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NvG8rtIl.jpg

And a closeup.

http://i.imgur.com/tZgfEjR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tZgfEjRl.jpg

More images to come............

I didn't know they had censorship on this forum even though *****comb is a legitimate word. so substitute

'Mohawk'

Blackadder

04-12-2017, 01:50 PM

Whoops:

Seems I may have miscalculated on the size of the Titan. That face is huge compared to the Warlord. Of course I had planned upwards of 36 inches ( 0.9144 meters )but I had hoped to keep it under 33 inches (0.8382 meters ) just so it didn't relegate my Warlord to a minor player. This may not be the case now.

http://i.imgur.com/928kBV1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/928kBV1l.jpg

The front view in my estimation is spot on and I shall proceed with the styrene version and make the cutouts on the basic structure. Once I am satisfied with the overall size relationship of the various parts of the 'face' I'll make the details.

http://i.imgur.com/MBwgT4X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MBwgT4Xl.jpg

The side view doesn't look quite right as there is too much forward projection with the cardboard template. When rendered in styrene wot the extra cheek plates added all will line up as it is supposed to......
At least that is my expectation.

Meph

04-13-2017, 12:43 AM

Bigger is better! :D

Haighus

04-13-2017, 07:09 AM

Well, I guess it isn't too surprising that it'll end up a lot larger all round than a Warlord. After all, Emperor titans are supposed to overshadow Warlords ;)

Blackadder

04-17-2017, 09:35 AM

Chin Guard Detail:

Back from Easter holiday; before I left I started the detail of the chin guard because I might have to put slots in the backing as well as the decorative spear shapes. The slots are ready made aligning points so duplicating the spear point is a cinch.

http://i.imgur.com/i8pheXC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i8pheXCl.jpg

I used a slightly modified tongue depresor to file the pieces to roughly the same shape and each pair is roughly 2 MM longer that the other S M L respectively

http://i.imgur.com/1IMWqXh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1IMWqXhl.jpg

Now that the three pair are rough shaped I can clean up the edges and thin them all down to the finished width.

This model head seems a lot easier than was the Warlord so far.

Blackadder

04-18-2017, 06:35 AM

OMG:

Seriously this is probably the most gratifying construct I have done in quite some time.

http://i.imgur.com/LpUWR8T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LpUWR8Tl.jpg

Everything is falling into place.

http://i.imgur.com/pmnMplO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pmnMplOl.jpg

Even though the chin armour is too far forward (easily remedied) it gives a hint of the majesty to come.......

http://i.imgur.com/oeVW0v7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oeVW0v7l.jpg

It's still not too late to start following/building along on this construction. I foresee this will be quite something when finished. :blush:

Blackadder

04-22-2017, 02:10 PM

Then A Miracle Happened:

But no, it didn't.... I was working without checking on the so far completed 'Skull' (well that's what it looks like to me) and I got away from the proper relative sizes. and so far it looks okay. The cheek armour under the visor seems about right especially since the large round canisters under the eye sockets still need to be added.

http://i.imgur.com/kdIR6Gf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kdIR6Gfl.jpg

I still have to pare down the nose and chin dart embellishments and I'm having difficulty reconciling the extra wide vertical strip under the nose; it looks too wide to me on the skull but less so on the 2D image. I like it thinner as it give the lower face a more refined look.

http://i.imgur.com/vUrJCti.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vUrJCtil.jpg

I'm going to have to bit the bullet and be less slavish to the prototype image and do what my instinct tells me looks best.....

So here is today's effort just tack glue in place temporarily.

http://i.imgur.com/yUS4JfD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yUS4JfDl.jpg

and I'm already not liking the chin dart (What was I thinking???) but the roughed in nose seems pretty close to what I looking for.

Haighus

04-22-2017, 02:54 PM

Looking great so far, although I agree that something looks off about the chin dart.

Blackadder

04-23-2017, 04:13 PM

Space Marine regalia:

Sorry, I got 'way too ahead of myself last night and in a fit of inspiration came up with the resolution to the nose and chin gewgaws but also the iron prow boot.

First the boot as I don't know what the interior looks like I got the inspiration to make it a solid floor and use the slots for small arms loopholes,

http://i.imgur.com/wDcB6Y2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wDcB6Y2l.jpg

just about enough room for a coupl'a sharpshooters shoulder to shoulder firing down at retreating infantry probably not in

http://i.imgur.com/5uE0rpp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5uE0rppl.jpg

The floor is 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) styrene which still needs to be trimmed to size but I still left one side not done so you can see the gusset strips needed to spread the floor. 70,0 MM (2.75 inches).

http://i.imgur.com/i71rWhT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i71rWhTl.jpg

Gluing the strip inside first and letting dry for an hour

http://i.imgur.com/7oBz3p8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7oBz3p8l.jpg

And finally finishing up the nose vents and rebuilding the chin gewgaw.

http://i.imgur.com/XhTN3b1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XhTN3b1l.jpg

Blackadder

04-24-2017, 11:45 AM

Back On Track:

After quite a bit of editing I'm back on track With the nose and chin darts pretty much as I want them but of course they are still rough and need to be refined to a more elegant shape. I think it will be better to do these alterations whilst on the head a bit at a time so as not to compromise what is almost satisfactory.

http://i.imgur.com/Iy0I9z1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Iy0I9z1l.jpg

I took the image below so the substructure can be seen. I was in a quandary how to make the flare on either side of the chin until I added the floor which made the whole thing easy plus it gave stability to the chin guard and a reason for being; i.e. a small arms fighting platform. I just made more work for myself as now I need to access and egress this area.

http://i.imgur.com/0ic6dSf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ic6dSfl.jpg

The Space Marine is a bit large for this cramped area but a couple of cadians will fit nicely.

http://i.imgur.com/Pvw7iBM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Pvw7iBMl.jpg

This side view shows I still have a lot of shaping to the flare to do.

http://i.imgur.com/QWxXLmH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QWxXLmHl.jpg

and front view likewise but there is a method to my madness because it is easier to sand and shape things smaller than it is to cut off and replace things with larger.

http://i.imgur.com/LgN0py8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LgN0py8l.jpg

So just a couple of more images tour de force while I install the other flare today.

http://i.imgur.com/9xLnag7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9xLnag7l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IPjFAHk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IPjFAHkl.jpg

Blackadder

04-26-2017, 02:47 PM

Yeah So The Visor's Not Right; I Know: :D

It's like working a Rubik's Cube. You have to discard order to increase order. I have figured out the mechanism to pin the side panels back and still allow for the movement and easy disassembly otherwise I could jut glue and be done with it.

http://i.imgur.com/4iK9lJH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4iK9lJHl.jpg

But what I am really showing is the first layer of the reinforcing gussets that I have to admit are somewhat crude.

The side view seems reminiscent of the Batman comic Joker Which may or may not be a good thing

http://i.imgur.com/F2GJRLu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2GJRLul.jpg

The rear quarter view show there is still a tremendous amount of detailing to be done. But fun none the less.

http://i.imgur.com/acYFw8C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/acYFw8Cl.jpg

And of course the hidden areas that no one will ever see once all the magnets and clips are installed to keep the head together.

http://i.imgur.com/bQhzqH3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bQhzqH3l.jpg

Finally my unpatented slide mechanism for easy removal of the visor.

http://i.imgur.com/ZkOCMk4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZkOCMk4l.jpg

Gawd, I still have to add lighting to this as well!

Morgrim

04-29-2017, 09:06 AM

It's funny you say it reminds you of the Joker, because from the early pictures with the eyemask loosely covering the head I thought it looked like one of the Batkids' cowls.

Haighus

04-30-2017, 01:57 PM

It is really taking shape now! The work on the visor is awesome.

I reckon a couple of Skitarii with the rifles may match better than Cadians though?

Blackadder

05-04-2017, 02:44 PM

Have to look up what Skitarii are............

Artistic Interpretation:

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

My Invictus skull differs from the image in many respects. Some as corrected projection errors such as the wrap around eyes, some as untranslatable 2D to 3D projection discrepancies and some as, "I just think it looks better that way." larger darts on the helmet, shorter and wider chin. Yadda yadda.........

and some with flat out mistakes on my part in building without measuring.

http://i.imgur.com/3vx0u6U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3vx0u6Ul.jpg

The flat iron flare of the chin in my model is almost twice the size of the image but I like the side view on the image but not the front view so I made the front view conform to the side and, walla, extra wide flange.

http://i.imgur.com/A4o2hPa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A4o2hPal.jpg

The side view is pathetic but it'll due for the nonce. I just tack glued everything together so the helmet tips back and the chin doesn't jut as it should and the visor is too vertical but you can get the idea.

You can see by the images below that as of this time I intend to have the Chin, Visor and Helmet as one piece. This may change after I make the interior cockpit area but I am having difficulty mating the visor to the chin/cheek plates.

http://i.imgur.com/YnX8SS6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YnX8SS6l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/T6pzCvm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T6pzCvml.jpg

Suddenly It's Martini Time.

Haighus

05-04-2017, 05:12 PM

That really looks great.

Skitarii are the Adpetus Mechanicus foot soldiers whose role is to protect Ad Mech foundries and also the Titans of the Adeptus Titanicus. They are basically Tech-Guard.

19661

Blackadder

05-04-2017, 05:49 PM

Blackadder

05-05-2017, 02:03 PM

Eyes Have it:

Preparing to add the wiring and LEDs some time this weekend so first I needed to know where the eye socket lenses would go and how they would fit. Getting the angles of the base of each lens frame was quite a chore as my sockets aren't 100% mirror images of each other depthwise. Fortunately they are within a quarter of a millimeter the same in socket size about 0.010th of an inch; yeah, I know, I was flabbergasted as well when I actually measured them.

http://i.imgur.com/K6cmbJQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K6cmbJQl.jpg

Anywho I be gluing on the rivets this evening which should consume a good portion of my relaxation time

http://i.imgur.com/XuegBdj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XuegBdjl.jpg

Meanwhile here's an image I found that shows the relative sizes of my Warlord to this new construction although I think the white shirted figure at the foot of the Warlord is too small.

http://i.imgur.com/w4oB6XM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w4oB6XMl.jpg

Lord Tothe

05-05-2017, 03:34 PM

Blackadder

05-05-2017, 04:15 PM

I think a hatch in the floor of the cockpit area and a ladder down to the chin platform would be ample detail. I second the Skitarii infantry suggestion, too. Use a Rhino hatch piece and maybe some Mantic terrain ladders. I can even send you a spare ladder if you like. PM me if you're interested.

Thanks for the offer but I've been working (mentally) on a two tiered cockpit that will afford access to the chin platform, all that needs be done now is the fiddly bits of assembling it. :D

Blackadder

05-06-2017, 05:17 AM

Subject To Change:

I changed my mind about what to work on last night. I had it in mind to detail the rivets but an idea occurred to me as to how to fasten the visor to the helmet so I went with that.

I used a slip joint slide to fasten the horizontal stabilizer to the vertical stabilizer on my Thunderhawk so I know it will work and as long as it isn't treated too rough.

We see below the result of an hour or so fiddling and waiting for the various glued parts to dry; a slide rail on the helmet and a slot to receive the rail on the visor. The tolerance is snug enough to hold the visor in place but sufficiently loose to allow ease of removal.

http://i.imgur.com/2XqfFTa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2XqfFTal.jpg

I really should learn to take videos for these demos but slipped half on.

http://i.imgur.com/rZNkq28.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rZNkq28l.jpg

and slid home.

http://i.imgur.com/qfw8zUE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qfw8zUEl.jpg

The beauty of this arrangement is it allows me to complete the visor lighting at a later date after I finish the interior cockpit assembly.

And a few images of the visor in place and at the proper angle now:

http://i.imgur.com/X96YCua.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X96YCual.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4ZwiyCj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4ZwiyCjl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HgVoY7Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HgVoY7Yl.jpg

Haighus

05-06-2017, 07:10 AM

Blackadder

05-06-2017, 08:57 AM

If you want to learn more about Skitarii, check this link (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skitarii). It is a bit conflicting because it combines older background with the newer stuff since GW released a model range.

The visor removable system looks functional, and the visor looks not far off completion now. Just rivets and lighting to go and it will look like an actual FW design to be honest. Will you be putting other detailing around the lenses in the eyes, such as cabling?

Yeah I learned a Skitarii load about them yesterday. I went so far as to order a few sets to populate my titans and maintenance gantry. Thanks for the info.

Yeah the cabling &etc will be added when I finis the detailing. Right now I have to incorporate the interior cockpit with the rest of the head(sic).

Haighus

05-06-2017, 11:00 AM

Yeah I learned a Skitarii load about them yesterday. I went so far as to order a few sets to populate my titans and maintenance gantry. Thanks for the info.

Yeah the cabling &etc will be added when I finis the detailing. Right now I have to incorporate the interior cockpit with the rest of the head(sic).

You're welcome :) Glad I could be of service to such a monumental project!

Look forward to seeing progress on the cockpit interior.

Blackadder

05-07-2017, 04:17 AM

OMG

http://i.imgur.com/891iEx0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/891iEx0l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fOSqA5S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fOSqA5Sl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BxeWeYQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BxeWeYQl.jpg

Words fail me.

Meph

05-08-2017, 01:49 AM

Words fail you good or words fail you bad? (Ermahgerd, I'm almost sounding like Trump there. He speaks the wellest of English as he is the bigliest of talker persons.)
I'm leaning towards words fail you good as that head is looking menacing like hell.

Blackadder

05-08-2017, 09:32 AM

Since I am a Proud member of 'The Deplorables' I'll let that pass.....

The Neck Passage:

Before I leave for Las Vegas a little something that came to me this past evening. Since I am making a full cockpit interior I'll need a sufficient mount so why not use the mount to simulate a passage thru the neck.

http://i.imgur.com/ppUlwfK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ppUlwfKl.jpg

And to reinforce the floor and give me something to attach the cockpit why not a few Lightening holes.

http://i.imgur.com/BcRDHrr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BcRDHrrl.jpg

I'll explain how this was done when I

See you all next week; Ciao.

Blackadder

05-19-2017, 07:12 PM

Thanks for the reply; I am back from a tedious 2600 mile odyssey traveling the breadth of the United States in three days in a 16 foot truck trailering a car which was no picnic. It took me a day to recuperate and a day to unload the truck and a couple of days to get my groove back. Yesterday I began again to make pieces for the interior and I hope to have a post update ready tomorrow. Meanwhile thanks for all the posts and the support. I'll try not to let you all down. Worthy of note; I spent three days in Las Vegas and didn't spend so much as a nickel gambling. Somewhat of a record to my mind but I did see the Arizona Meteor Crater which was a life long ambition.

http://i.imgur.com/U16SLn8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U16SLn8l.jpg

Blackadder

05-20-2017, 03:19 PM

Slowing Down:

Am I slowing down in my dotage?

A week ago I was somewhere in Texas, Windmills to the right of me, windmills to the left of me from horizon to horizon.

The tallest wind turbines in the U.S. have been installed in Texas — the Vestas V90 turbines are 345 feet high, and are rated at 3 megawatts each. They are part of the 63 megawatt Snyder Wind Project, a wind farm that’s just been installed in western Texas.

Today I finally put the floor in my Emperor Titan head. a weeks worth of work and damned little to actually show

http://i.imgur.com/XQ8Z1Xs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XQ8Z1Xsl.jpg

I vacillated from not enough room to too much room......

http://i.imgur.com/RZR7ltm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RZR7ltml.jpg

but now that the actual floor is installed it all is coming together correctly

http://i.imgur.com/NdhT0av.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NdhT0avl.jpg

Sorry for what seems redundant images but the previous ones were without the floor and not able to be handled. Now at least they are held together with gum bands and aside from being somewhat askew are just about right for installing the interior furniture.

http://i.imgur.com/Kj1OPHR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Kj1OPHRl.jpg

With plenty of room to spare.

Tonight's repast; Martini, Texas Chili and the Doctor Strange BlueRay Video....

Skoal.

Blackadder

05-27-2017, 01:07 PM

Don't Be So Proud Of This Engineering Marvel You've Created

It pales to insignificance compared to the force.

So it's been quite a while since I posted; I've been really busy with community activism. But I did manage to work a bit on the interior. So the best thing to do is to show how it breaks down......

The Complete er-ah- Head as it is today.

http://i.imgur.com/dqnVeMq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dqnVeMql.jpg

Slide the visor up to disengage the faceplate.

http://i.imgur.com/9kWLLGr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9kWLLGrl.jpg

The Faceplate engages the neck corridor floor with a tongue in groove joint.

http://i.imgur.com/nds5dpa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nds5dpal.jpg

Revealing where the interior cockpit will eventually be assembled.

The Chin fighting platform floor is held in place by a single screw , the only hardware needed so far in this assembly.

http://i.imgur.com/HwqgtR6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HwqgtR6l.jpg

and tongue in groove edges

http://i.imgur.com/ypsAwnu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ypsAwnul.jpg

To round out the effort the visor slips off to reveal the cockpit interior when the model is completed.

http://i.imgur.com/R7pxo3T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R7pxo3Tl.jpg

Long Island Ice Tea Time. Skoal!

BTW I'm open to any questions regarding the construction if the pictures have you puzzled but only on the thread; not a PM please.

Haighus

05-27-2017, 05:14 PM

It does look good. How are you planning to complete the corridor into the chin? It looks like there should be some kind of walls between the neck and the sides of the chin platform- having an open-air entrance to the cockpit of the titan would be a bit odd. On the other hand, making a join that allows the head to move on the neck joint would be very difficult with an enclosed corridor.

I will be intrigued to see how you do this, because you have a knack for finding solutions to this kind of problem.

Blackadder

05-27-2017, 06:53 PM

Haighus

05-28-2017, 06:27 AM

A series of overlapping layers perhaps? Like the laminated effect used in a lot of plate armour to allow movements at joints, but retain the protection. It would be complicated and difficult to make reliable, but I can't think of an easier way other than using flexible materials at the joint.

Haighus

05-28-2017, 08:00 AM

It would also look badass, and aesthetically matches the rest of the Mechanicus vehicles.

Blackadder

05-28-2017, 12:13 PM

A series of overlapping layers perhaps?.....................

Actually I am toying with the idea of making the joint like a Chinese Bamboo Snake toy

https://mountainfolkcraft.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/snake.jpg

with the two axes 90° to each other.

Blackadder

06-06-2017, 01:12 PM

Worked and Worked:

But so little actually visibly accomplished. I began this project telling myself I would not make the same mistakes I made with my Warlord but Damn! it's coming out so good that I keep retrofitting more and more interior so I'm back to building inside out again. I had hoped to start on the chest and shoulders by now.

http://i.imgur.com/f8Kz6J5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f8Kz6J5l.jpg

So here's the Landspeeder cockpit that will eventually fit into the head which has a floor ready to receive the cockpit but is just a slab of angled 0.040 sheet styrene so really nothing to see yet. But trust me it is inside.

http://i.imgur.com/jAQSZjW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jAQSZjWl.jpg

A little more visible are the cheek canisters whatever purpose they serve other than clutter the face up and therefore add esoteric detail.

http://i.imgur.com/rsv6BnD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rsv6BnDl.jpg

I notched out the canisters to mount on the secondary cheek armour which is where I am now in the construction so before I glue the on why not take some teaser images to tantalize my loyal readers.

Hopefully I'll have more progress to show next time.

BTW, just noticed the floor of the cockpit is visible in the image directly above but as I said it's just a sheet of thin styrene so whoopdeedoo!

Haighus

06-07-2017, 11:20 AM

I think the canisters are meant to be the speakers that the Titan uses to scream with. It is a feature of all Ad Mech Titans I think.

Blackadder

06-07-2017, 12:44 PM

Speakers, what a novel idea. What better than the God Machine speaking with a basso profundo bellow in the midst of the carnage. Thanks,

Pure Gold:

Gold is where you find it as the old saw goes and you find it in the least likely places. I was in a variety store a few days ago and found these Hair bands 4.76 MM (3/16 inch) diameter that are ideal for the canister conduit.

http://i.imgur.com/WrBYXrW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WrBYXrWl.jpg

I felt the image conduit aesthetically too large of a diameter.

http://i.imgur.com/UYsIE1r.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UYsIE1rl.jpg

I have used these before on my Warlord and my Warhounds but those were only 3,0 MM (1/8 inch).

http://i.imgur.com/rGefJtx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rGefJtxl.jpg

If I could find 6.3 MM (1/4 inch) that would be also of use. I'll keep on looking.

http://i.imgur.com/h4c8TLk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h4c8TLkl.jpg

Whilst we have the head apart again I can show the cockpit which is coming along quite well.

http://i.imgur.com/G760IsE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G760IsEl.jpg

Working on the interior is much easier if you can remove it and reinstall at will so I work with a detachable floor.

It also makes it easier to paint if I ever get that far.

Lord Tothe

06-08-2017, 12:11 PM

Do you plan to fill in that triangular space between the pilot feet and the nose with some sort of control console then?

Blackadder

06-09-2017, 04:17 AM

Do you plan to fill in that triangular space between the pilot feet and the nose with some sort of control console then?

Probably some 'Ad Mech' quasi-religious artifacts and instrument panel displays / console/ controls as I did with my Warlord.

http://i.imgur.com/BoGrZrc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BoGrZrcl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZbqeBbp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZbqeBbpl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zbC3bfy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zbC3bfyl.jpg

Blackadder

06-10-2017, 08:28 AM

The Fearful Symmetry:

As most of you know I rarely measure when producing my work. Therefore symmetry is a problem for me as revealed in the image below. The face shield is canted a degree or 2 counterclockwise which is readily apparent in this head on image.

http://i.imgur.com/il8GXeZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il8GXeZl.jpg

Of course no one will be standing full dead on eye level with the construct so I may let this discrepancy slide.

The Low angle view seems to hide the flaw.

http://i.imgur.com/befX1AH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/befX1AHl.jpg

Now for the crux of this discourse; the conduit run to the ear pieces.

http://i.imgur.com/W69lm36.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W69lm36l.jpg

Magnets hold the ear disc on with a fender washer to take up the gap.

http://i.imgur.com/hKHuYWM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hKHuYWMl.jpg

And a 5 inch scale for reference to the size of this, seeming, never ending construct..

Blackadder

06-14-2017, 05:30 PM

Aha! Ha! Ha!

Fun and games boys and girls, fun and games. Thanks to an andante admirer I've a new direction to follow gleaning the best from all info available. I've managed to begin the mid-waist decking and observation platform.

http://i.imgur.com/Lo2sTXK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Lo2sTXKl.jpg

I truly want a railed promenade deck on this beastie and a fully articulated neck as well so letting you all in on the ground floor of this is a bit daring especially if I fall short but this is how I work; off the cuff.

http://i.imgur.com/ljCWQH3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ljCWQH3l.jpg

We'll see how far I'm off the mark in a few days.

Blackadder

06-15-2017, 04:02 PM

Intermediate platform and turntable.

http://i.imgur.com/2QpGFBp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2QpGFBpl.jpg

Blackadder

06-16-2017, 05:50 PM

Mid Waist Deck:

So today I started with the mid waist deck and already I have an improvement.

http://i.imgur.com/CkT8L9E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CkT8L9El.jpg

Unfortunately after I glued in the walls but I came to the realization quickly enough to remedy the anomaly.

http://i.imgur.com/qQz0lrU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qQz0lrUl.jpg

I'll leave to you to guess what I found wrong but suffice it to say the construct lacks panache.

http://i.imgur.com/SWmCG0P.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SWmCG0Pl.jpg

I'll have it corrected tomorrow so you'll see if you guessed right.

Ciao.

Blackadder

06-17-2017, 12:43 PM

This Will Happen:

I've never felt so confident in a project as in this one.

http://i.imgur.com/o1XeD88.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o1XeD88l.jpg

The mistake of last night bore fruit in that I did not have to rebuild the turn table piece.

http://i.imgur.com/NFr0iQZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NFr0iQZl.jpg

Even the Mid-Waist Platform is the right width for the hips

http://i.imgur.com/hNbbv4f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hNbbv4fl.jpg

But Lord please don't let it be that the head is too small :D

Blackadder

06-21-2017, 01:48 PM

First Engineering Deck:

Situated below the reactor bay and the command deck this room contains (maybe) the electronic and navigation equipment plus the Adeptus Mechanicus altar and tech priests. I'll figure it out later once I get the other decks laid out.

http://i.imgur.com/9ncdXOy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ncdXOyl.jpg

Below are the inner walls of the deck and the center reactor core.

http://i.imgur.com/SQAo709.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SQAo709l.jpg

And the deck as it stacks up on the titan pelvis block again subject to change as i am not sure how much detail I should add to the top of the pelvic block.

http://i.imgur.com/YYHQDgB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YYHQDgBl.jpg

Blackadder

06-23-2017, 10:50 AM

Hanging Knees:

That's what they are called in shipbuilding They support the deck beams and are usually curved. In this case I shall leave these flat until I see how the rest of the detail manifests itself.

http://i.imgur.com/5ZSdeIM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5ZSdeIMl.jpg

Since I seriously have no plan at this stage other than the black and white video captures and this beautifully rendered 3D image I shall be taking what I deem best from both.

http://i.imgur.com/jxlQ99A.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jxlQ99Al.jpg

I changed the rear panel from round to flat so I can show the interior space.

http://i.imgur.com/GIUsTFa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GIUsTFal.jpg

I do like the idea of the railing and balcony and will try to work it into the design just so i can display my Tech Priests.

Blackadder

06-24-2017, 06:53 PM

A Broken Precedent.

I don't usually do this but it seems such a 'gimme' that I am running it by without testing the concept.

http://i.imgur.com/hxXUwqf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hxXUwqfl.jpg

I want the neck to be movable on both axes' up /down and side to side and I went to great lengths to accomplish that with my Warlord.

http://i.imgur.com/05bFt6y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/05bFt6yl.jpg

With the Emperor Titan I have a lot more room so I'm trying something different. A 3 inch to 2 inch PVC reducing coupling which gives a 20° up/down and side to side flexibility.

http://i.imgur.com/gDjQ7cZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gDjQ7cZl.jpg

In the coming days I'll show how this works out but in the meantime I intend to show the interim work for better or worse because once done it will be difficult to reproduce.

http://i.imgur.com/FOnI1Gv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FOnI1Gvl.jpg

Morgrim

06-25-2017, 08:16 AM

Most people would be satisfied with their scratchbuilt titan having a nicely detailed exterior. Yours is getting a plausible scratch built interior too. Good gods, man. The Ordo Mechanicus is going to come for you at this rate. :P

Blackadder

06-25-2017, 02:56 PM

Neck Articulation:

This was so much easier than the engineering gymnastics I had to go thru with the Warlord articulation. After stripping down the head to the basic neck components all it required was drilling four holes and threading them with a 6-32 tap. I countersunk the outer holes for flat headed screws.

http://i.imgur.com/unU2vdq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/unU2vdql.jpg

I then made a collar for the neck to slide into and mounted it into the middle deck forward bulkhead. Not glued because I want to be able to disassemble the model for painting and upgrading. Everything is as close a tolerance press fit as I can make it.

http://i.imgur.com/CCUVtMC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CCUVtMCl.jpg

Centering the neck in the outer ring I secured the screws.

http://i.imgur.com/0hombQK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0hombQKl.jpg

So after all that work I got about a 15 to 20° downward tilt to the neck.

http://i.imgur.com/AwOfNFl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AwOfNFll.jpg

Sliding the assembly together gives an idea of what the finished model will be able to do by way of articulation.

http://i.imgur.com/7rEDYH1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7rEDYH1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9i3annL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9i3annLl.jpg

After reassembling the head I'll be able to see how much more downward angle I can add if needs be.

Blackadder

06-26-2017, 01:51 PM

Hate Mail:

I'm gonna get a lot of hate mail because this damned thing works perfectly and no one is more surprised than I am.

http://i.imgur.com/l8yW8Fd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l8yW8Fdl.jpg

The range of motion is still rather limited but after I get the breast plate detail completed I can increase the range up/down and side to side by I'm guessing at least double.

http://i.imgur.com/QMaF2j6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QMaF2j6l.jpg

I'm hoping to reassemble the head today so I can test out the balcony clearance.

http://i.imgur.com/TR2NsNa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TR2NsNal.jpg

It's really fun to sequence these thru my image viewer. Ha!

http://i.imgur.com/fJff7vh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fJff7vhl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fERhbZC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fERhbZCl.jpg

This mechanism is actually a two axis gimbal.

http://i.imgur.com/1zfyIyP.gif

Blackadder

06-26-2017, 04:59 PM

Amendment:

Because of my fixation on having a railed promenade for my Tech Priests I mounted the head higher than the You tube Video Imperator.

http://i.imgur.com/LubKGr5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LubKGr5l.jpg

Since my version has a dynamic structure I feel the snaky conduits are out of place and the chin armour is too close to the deck.

http://i.imgur.com/PltSEDM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PltSEDMl.jpg

There is no need for the cramped claustrophobic appearance when all the space above is free to interpretation.

http://i.imgur.com/m4wYGvX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/m4wYGvXl.jpg

Of course I may just have added another 5 centimeters to the overall height.

Blackadder

06-27-2017, 12:38 PM

A Matter of Scale:

A side by side comparison with my Warlord. Egad this thing will be huge.

http://i.imgur.com/p3iP5PD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p3iP5PDl.jpg

Blackadder

07-01-2017, 02:04 PM

A Yard Stick Won't Be Enough:

I'm beginning to think that even a meter is too conservative an estimate for the height of this behemoth.

http://i.imgur.com/cBNuX3z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cBNuX3zl.jpg

The yardstick as presented indicate the 27 inches tall my Warlord stands.

http://i.imgur.com/qPPFq0U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qPPFq0Ul.jpg

The Triangular shoulders represent the width of the platform the cathedral superstructure sits on so even with out the legs the yardstick comes up short.

http://i.imgur.com/oFxMq13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oFxMq13l.jpg

The closeup of the passage to the Cockpit from the command deck.

http://i.imgur.com/3GBtkIb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3GBtkIbl.jpg

Looking down at the upper reactor room

http://i.imgur.com/K4ofb9U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K4ofb9Ul.jpg

And a bird's eye view of the titan as it is today.

http://i.imgur.com/uWgWhC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uWgWhC9l.jpg

Morgrim

07-02-2017, 05:59 AM

I was wondering how you'd transport something that big, but honestly I think your titan is going to reach the size where you can actually buckle it in to the car seat instead.

Blackadder

07-02-2017, 07:25 AM

I was wondering how you'd transport something that big, but honestly I think your titan is going to reach the size where you can actually buckle it in to the car seat instead.

My Warlord and this Emperor break down into two easily manageable subsections which in turn can be broken down into dozens of subassemblies that facilitate upgrades, painting and repairs. I employ screws, sliding rails and magnets to facilitate assembly and breakdown, even my resin Chaos Warhounds can be disassembled at will through the judicious application of rare earth magnets.

Thanks for the question.

Meph

07-04-2017, 12:42 PM

Oh my, you've been busy... Good progress, man.

Blackadder

07-06-2017, 10:50 AM

Welcome back Meph,

Cities of Death Bitz:

When I first started this project I stated I would be relying heavily of Prefab Bitz so as to make this model more accessible to would-be modelers. I fully expected readers to be able to make their own Emperor Titans following my examples. Certainly there are no big secrets revealed in this construction

The problem I see in most Emperor Titans that employ bitz is a lack of imagination. You cannot use the pieces directly out of the box. Witness below.....

http://i.imgur.com/h72NPQJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h72NPQJl.jpg

The flying buttresses as they come out of the box have little application to speak of in this area of the Titan but with a bit of judicious cutting and filing they find purpose.

http://i.imgur.com/dbpQ3LL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dbpQ3LLl.jpg

Likewise the area below the 'head' calls for a processional egress onto the balcony/podium/pulpit.

http://i.imgur.com/vfLQMxj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vfLQMxjl.jpg

Of course this is all subject to interpretation, You might have reservations about a huge vulnerable door in the front of the chest, I do myself but nothing is etched in stone and I may change my mind in the future but something is better than nothing so I'm going for it at this moment.

Lord Tothe

07-11-2017, 07:29 PM

You might have reservations about a huge vulnerable door in the front of the chest, I do myself but nothing is etched in stone and I may change my mind in the future but something is better than nothing so I'm going for it at this moment.

Rule of Cool applies here. Besides, you have void shields galore, right? And what is more perfect for a walking cathedral of death? My only concern would be if it opened directly to the reactor.

Meph

07-12-2017, 01:07 AM

If the beast needs a belly-button door, I'd make it rather small to be honest. Either a round entryway with either one round hatch, or two halves, airlock style.
Or perhaps a door tapered like a gothic window. The large square gate looks really out of place to be honest.

I'd take a middle-road between rule-of-cool and practicality of having a front-facing door instead of armour plating.

Orr perhaps an elaborate combo of sliding armour sections revealing an armoured door?

Blackadder

07-12-2017, 04:53 PM

Ha, you've read my mind. I've o[ted for a curved pocket door to slide back into the chest.

http://i.imgur.com/2X6eRvo.jpg

I'm going to keep the huge doors under the head as a passage to the heart of the Titan the reactor core and rationalize it as a means to extract the core for replacement and maintenance.

Meph

07-13-2017, 12:26 AM

I'm going to keep the huge doors under the head as a passage to the heart of the Titan the reactor core and rationalize it as a means to extract the core for replacement and maintenance.

Wouldn't you need a large iris door on the bottom or back for that. Somewhat akin to say, a sphincter? :D

The front doors would be better rationalized as a firing/public speech balcony I feel. And behind the doors, nothing more than a curved hallway or minimalist barracks in front of a huge reinforced armoured wall of the reactor housing. Having a front door open to the reactor room seems quite suicidal.

Blackadder

07-13-2017, 07:29 AM

Wouldn't you need a large iris door on the bottom or back for that. Somewhat akin to say, a sphincter? :D

The front doors would be better rationalized as a firing/public speech balcony I feel. And behind the doors, nothing more than a curved hallway or minimalist barracks in front of a huge reinforced armoured wall of the reactor housing. Having a front door open to the reactor room seems quite suicidal.

I thought there were Void Generators and shielding to take care of those problems plus if they cannot, the entire Titan is a top heavy house of cards.

Besides if the armour is breached and the Titan is going down, opening the doors and ejecting the core via a catapult mechanism at the enemy for some nasty heavy metal poisoning in a last ditch effort for the glory of the Emperor; "May He Forever Continue To Rot!"

Meph

07-13-2017, 07:55 AM

Ahahahah for a second there I misread it as: "May He Forever Continue To Trot!", which is not a bad slogan for a Titan, actually...

Blackadder

07-15-2017, 07:00 PM

A Week Vacation:

Doldrums, I could not think. I knew what I wanted to do but the process eluded me.

This morning I came up with a solution but it was my original thoughts, I just needed to hunker down and do it.

http://i.imgur.com/JunT8km.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JunT8kml.jpg

so first I needed the rear housings,pretty straight forward just a rectangle with a 45° chamfer.

http://i.imgur.com/EYSlklD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EYSlklDl.jpg

I need to make the housings removable so the interior detail can be added later.

http://i.imgur.com/240UkLw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/240UkLwl.jpg

The model will have a wrap around balcony below the head so doors on either side for access to the weapons observation deck is needed.

http://i.imgur.com/THDKwIJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/THDKwIJl.jpg

All this is subject to change as the model evolves

http://i.imgur.com/G5vSgr2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G5vSgr2l.jpg

Blackadder

07-16-2017, 11:34 AM

Hopelessly Outclassed

I'm Afraid my Warlord will be hopelessly outclassed by this new addition to my Titan Stable which I project to be half again taller than the Warlord. About 40 inches tall or one Meter if you are into an inhumane system of measurment. :D

http://i.imgur.com/sdcsfvH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sdcsfvHl.jpg

My new Workshop arrangement is better able to display my creations as I build which makes for a more inspiring atmosphere.

Spur me along as it were.

http://i.imgur.com/OVDi3BC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OVDi3BCl.jpg

Sitting at the computer having these two staring down at me is a bit disconcerting. Almost accusatory in their gaze seeming to say, Get busy and finish this up.

http://i.imgur.com/Eqn6RlT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Eqn6RlTl.jpg

Meph

07-17-2017, 07:56 AM

"inhumane system of measurement." That's actually quite correct. :D Although personally I'm a fan of 1 Liter of water being 1 Kg, I've heard from other scratch builders that the millimeter is too constricting at times. When dealing with stuff thinner than a finger nail, I guess that makes sense.

And it does seem as if the Imperator is willing you to continue. He doesn't look that happy, partially disembodied, sitting next to its completed little brother. He's standing there, swaying in a smug little victory dance.

Blackadder

07-17-2017, 10:42 AM

"inhumane system of measurement." That's actually quite correct. :D Although personally I'm a fan of 1 Liter of water being 1 Kg, I've heard from other scratch builders that the millimeter is too constricting at times..........................

Inhumane in the sense that I tried to do carpentry using the metric system and found it extremely difficult to work with MM, (too coarse) (CM, too short) and meters (too long) compared to fractions of an inch (width of a circular saw blade is an 1/8 of an inch BTW) inches (Ah! just right) and foot/feet a perfectly natural measurement (Coincidentally my foot is exactly twelve inches long. but I suppose that is of no consequence.)

Working on models I find a millimeter is far too coarse where as a tenth of a millimeter is way too fine and doesn't even have a name. whereas my six inch scale is graduated into 1/64th of an inch which is the tolerances I work with.

Now I know that the French came up with the metric system which for some reason they thought a meter was one ten millionth the distance of the equator from the North pole as measured through Paris as if that had any relevant significance and somehow managed to get it wrong by a whopping 0,2 MM any way! Two whole kilometers error; Ha! such is the folly and conceit of man; Well Frenchmen anyway. :D

Fortunately I am equally confident with both systems of measurement and change readily between them both as a matter of convenience.

Blackadder, you insufferable bore. ;)

Blackadder

07-21-2017, 06:35 PM

The Razors Edge:

I'm trying to walk the tightrope between the two most interesting Emperors I've yet seen taking bitz and bits from each and incorporating in my model.

I've already departed from both in giving my 'head' a lot more play than either and it comes down to how tall this beastie will be.

http://i.imgur.com/eAtvxgy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eAtvxgyl.jpg

On either side of the head are two balconies that I feel give purpose to the garish ornamentation yet still retains the Gothic flavor. True to my word I am attempting to make the build and ornaments as easy as possible so those so inclined may follow along building their own Emperor Titan.

http://i.imgur.com/b1cbeJV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b1cbeJVl.jpg

We'll see how successful I am with these compromises.

Blackadder

07-23-2017, 05:53 AM

Side Galleries:

On either side of the 'Head' there are these side galleries. I'm a bit disappointed in these but I shall probably leave them as they are because I'm tempted to put dual guns or lasers in the windows instead of my initial idea of stained glass.

http://i.imgur.com/rUGHKFW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rUGHKFWl.jpg

Once these galleries are surrounded by other detail, they'll blend in better.

http://i.imgur.com/G0L4vLV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G0L4vLVl.jpg

Still to come on these galleries are the ball turret gun mounts and lots of skulls and stylized eagles, but for now they will remain removable to ease amenability.

http://i.imgur.com/zh2NbZw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zh2NbZwl.jpg

The above image probably mimics the drawing best and I feel my solution to what is under the 'head' is better that the nondescript python-like cable conduits in the video I assume just put there to fill the void.

http://i.imgur.com/RDmYM4F.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RDmYM4Fl.jpg

Again a couple of Space Marines for scale.

And a high angle and side view shot to round out last evenings work.

http://i.imgur.com/WLcCSQS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WLcCSQSl.jpg

Note the serendipity of the curved corbels which allow the head to swing side to side without interference by the galleries. Purely accidental I assure you as I'm not sure that the Emperor titans have that capability.

http://i.imgur.com/dRfdTiP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dRfdTiPl.jpg

As with the Thunderhawk, once I began to personalize this construct I've begun to warm to it's intrinsic majesty and ignore the obvious impracticality of the monstrosity.

Meph

07-23-2017, 07:26 AM

Wow, it's really impressive how the shape is becoming clearer with every addition. Majestic is the right word indeed. Especially on that last photo, you have this large, building like structure that's imposing by itself. And then the head in an articulated pose makes it clear that this thing is a walking behemoth that would dominate the skyline of any city it walks through.

Blackadder

07-23-2017, 01:06 PM

Turret Housing:

http://i.imgur.com/vQtW9ZK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vQtW9ZKl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1yG9jkW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1yG9jkWl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7a2Y9Bd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7a2Y9Bdl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/G8UvO4T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G8UvO4Tl.jpg

I'm on Fire Today.

Blackadder

07-26-2017, 06:34 PM

A Revelation:

After butting my head against the wall for the past few days I came to the realization I've run out of ideas for the front of this beastie. I've tinkered with CoD panels and cut and pasted said panels in various positions and nothing looks right.

http://i.imgur.com/P5AOD9w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P5AOD9wl.jpg

Fortunately I have the rear elevation to fall back on, when in the doldrums work on something else, is my motto; too bad I quite forget it all too often.

http://i.imgur.com/1K0D9JX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1K0D9JXl.jpg

No sooner did I turn the beast around than I came up with a plan for the front but I'll save that for next week and concentrate on the back.

Blackadder

07-29-2017, 02:28 PM

Cripes! Now I know why I need such huge doors!

http://i.imgur.com/t2yEa6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t2yEa6Zl.jpg

These Tech Priests are gianormous!

http://i.imgur.com/5UwOdgN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5UwOdgNl.jpg

I don't know what this thing is supposed to do but somehow a Emperor Titan needs a body guard.

http://i.imgur.com/G4cNkjY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G4cNkjYl.jpg

And a company of lesser warrior priests.

http://i.imgur.com/9fEW3Zu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9fEW3Zul.jpg

As you can see I have found a purpose for my balcony. Purely serendipity I assure you; I had no idea these creatures existed.

Blackadder

07-31-2017, 03:05 PM

Blackadder's Instant Paint Job:

So I'm watching these Youtube videos how to paint Skitarii and they are quite involved what with the spray painting with grey primer and then gunmetal silver and washes etc. A marvel of tenacity and patience........

http://i.imgur.com/Uo7S4mn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Uo7S4mnl.jpg

and I look at my Warlord and Thunderhawk and to my unpracticed eye I see very little difference between all that work and the relatively simple Flat Black Primer and rubbed in Graphite powder.

http://i.imgur.com/EKNFJhS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EKNFJhSl.jpg

So I'm going to share my simple yet effective and cost effect method of acheiving the same effect with a tenth the effort.

http://i.imgur.com/FrGGzAu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FrGGzAul.jpg

First I spray paint all the figures with ElCheapo Walmart brand $0.99 cents a can Flat Black Primer.

http://i.imgur.com/JDEw8ah.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JDEw8ahl.jpg

Just one light coat and inspect out of doors in bright sunlight to make sure all the areas are covered.

And let dry overnight.

Mud Duck

07-31-2017, 06:29 PM

The way I understand the fluff, the two legged walker is more a scout then bodyguard, something about they never stop moving, not sure if that means walking or just random twitching, and the four legged one is a main battle tank.
Just a thought, alcoves in the legs where a couple of battle automata, either Forge World or your take on the subject, are locked in place ready to deploy on a seconds notice.

Blackadder

07-31-2017, 06:34 PM

Thanks yes, nice to know.

Blackadder

08-06-2017, 05:39 AM

Adeptus Mechanicus Update:

Just to keep you apprised of my lack of progress in a physical sense at least. I have found why I have hit a wall design wise and I shall be making corrections this weekend. Most of my problem was two dimensional thinking.

On the painting front I have cranked up the old airbrush because these Skitarii figures are too finely detailed for painting with a brush. Even the youtube tutorials with so-called pro-painters show heavy brushstrokes that are unacceptable to me.

http://i.imgur.com/bGuhu71.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bGuhu71l.jpg

I began with the Dune Crawler which was not my fav anyway so I used it to practice on. It is not coming out to badly but I think the Airbrush can do better.

http://i.imgur.com/ghaQ0sY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ghaQ0sYl.jpg

I managed to find a Belisarius Cawl on ebay unencumbered by the other two models in the kit which I also have no interest in and spent Saturday evening assembling it. It is ans extremely delicate model full of threadlike plastic parts and I have my doubts of it's survivability on a game board

http://i.imgur.com/IqVmXq4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IqVmXq4l.jpg

Fortunately my Belisarius Will be a display companion piece for my Emperor Titan and reside in the completed interior Command center utterly safe from the vicissitudes of beer swilling 40K combatants. :D

Yet perhaps not from Martini Swilling judgmental old farts. ;)

Blackadder

08-10-2017, 11:11 AM

Here's a question for all you painting buffs and I've yet to find it satisfactorily explained.

In the video below the author begins at the 2:20 two minute 20 second mark to "Shade" the the model with 3 parts Vallejo brown ink and 1 part Vallejo Black ink Now I've got dozens of bottles of shades, washes, glazes and nuln oil (Also a Shade and what I am must use to using with adequate results...........)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVVhWJhLbs

Now, Before I go and buy yet more of these vile little vials.............

What I want to know is since the author is indiscriminately using the words "Shade," "Wash," "ink," interchangeably; what is he on about and what could be substituted for this so called "Ink" mix.

I'm sure a lot of tyros such as myself would like a succinct explanation.

Here's your chance to shine and have the Blackadder in your debt.:D

Manu Miniatures

08-15-2017, 06:39 AM

Quick answer:
You need Agrax Earthshade + water (3:1).

Little longer answer:
GW products for washing are named shades, I guess this is the reason of useing "wash" and "shade" interchangeably
Vallejo make inks but shades and inks are two diffrent things.

Wash is diluted paint, it pours in all recess, and make them darker (obvious). Wash can by made from any normal paint, just add a lot of water and a little dishwashing liquid to improve flow. Or you can use some product specificaly made for washing, I reffered to Agrax, becouse citadel shades are very user friendly. Shades are good for washing but not for anything else contrary to inks. The pigment in inks settles more evenly, so control is better. Ink will be great for washing and for glazeing to.

Haighus

08-15-2017, 11:47 AM

Looking really cool. You have made some serious progress since I last checked in!

Blackadder

08-16-2017, 06:13 AM

Thanks for the replies and thanks for the info on the inks vs shades and washes............. as you are new to the forum I appreciate you making your debut on my thread.

Sub Floor Supports:

Once again building these behemoths requires a bit of a nod to engineering. Many of the God Machines I've reviewed have ignored the support of the massive superstructure as if a paper thin floor is all that is required to support the crenelations, Gothic ramparts, turrets and spires. A few acknowledged the massive weigh of these edifices. It is those I have picked and chose the most interesting features to incorporate into my model

http://i.imgur.com/DoKQ2lo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DoKQ2lol.jpg

These images show the construction of what I call 'flying corbels' a structure unnamed in architecture but a fitting counterpoint to the Medieval invention named 'flying buttresses' prominent in the cathedrals of the middle ages.

http://i.imgur.com/ANH4FjA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ANH4FjAl.jpg

Mine will be light airy structures that belie their intended purpose. the basic structure 0.040" skin over 0.50" inch square tubing. The end pieces and the 'U' shaped cutouts are skinned with 0.020" sheet styrene.

http://i.imgur.com/PWd1veC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PWd1veCl.jpg

Finally the edges of the skins are accented with 0.040 Sq strips for the 'U' Channel and 0.040 by 0.060 rectangular strips for the lower edge trim. shown inverted in the image below.

http://i.imgur.com/F5ORb2q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F5ORb2ql.jpg

Now we are ready for the pizzazz.

Blackadder

08-17-2017, 11:44 AM

Disaster:

While attaching the new part disaster struck and the whole assembly toppled off of the display console five feet to the floor first falling on my work desk. The whole thing shattered into half a dozen pieces on the desk and floor and I feared for the worst

http://i.imgur.com/BmLTrby.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BmLTrbyl.jpg

But inspection revealed no damage done to any of the discrete pieces and the titan readily reassembled none the worse for the experience.

So here's a closeup of the new piece in approximately the finished location. the legs may have to be shortened.

http://i.imgur.com/4JQGKqu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4JQGKqul.jpg

This piece relies on the CoD Manufactorum railings for the detail so far. More yet to come and of course I need to make another one.

Lord Tothe

08-18-2017, 01:23 AM

I am pleased to hear the forces of chaos were unable to demolish this noble war machine of the Imperium.

BEKUZ US ORKS IZ GONNA LOOT THAT STOMPA!

Blackadder

08-18-2017, 03:13 PM

You and What Army? :D

The God Machine Arises:

Sorry to be so self indulgent but this is coming out much better than I expected.

http://i.imgur.com/2fgqC8V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2fgqC8Vl.jpg

In the beginning I had shall we say neutral enthusiasm for the project because when finished (If Successful I must add) it would relegate My Luteus Vexant to second place.

http://i.imgur.com/wjuXm4I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wjuXm4Il.jpg

Now with a clear idea of how to build the chest area everything is falling into place and with both hanging buttresses in place the true width of the chest becomes apparent.

http://i.imgur.com/kzpAMd2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kzpAMd2l.jpg

In point of fact this beastie has wormed it's way into my heart and I am beginning to regret compromising on the hip structure.

Tonight I am going to start on the superstructure platform which will support the Cathedral-like top hamper

http://i.imgur.com/QX9aTK8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QX9aTK8l.jpg

And tomorrow I have to make a Hobby run for more 1/2 inch square square tubing.

Blackadder

08-20-2017, 02:27 PM

Thought I was on the wrong thread............ As for most beautiful; meh.:rolleyes:

Back to the Titan,

Once again serendipity:

rears it's head. The "Hanging Butresses have structures that I suppose reinforce the arches and perhaps act as drains or down spouts. A large central one and two secondary on the wings. Inspecting my CoD bitz for inspiration I found the bas-relief tech priests on either side of the gothic arch windows made ideal. accents for these structures.

http://i.imgur.com/ZHOW76K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZHOW76Kl.jpg

I used a razor saw to fine cut the figures from the window frames by first cutting off the square beam, then the footing course, finally the figures from the remainder. I discarded the the excess of the top and sanded the back side smooth. I then glued the figure to 3/8th inch square tubing (9.5 MM)

http://i.imgur.com/KBJU3Wk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KBJU3Wkl.jpg

I still haven't decided how long to make these so for now I'll just make all four and adjust the length at another time after I make the inverted square spires.

But as you can see, once again, blind luck has favored The Blackadder. :D

Blackadder

08-21-2017, 06:14 PM

Hanging Buttresses Update.....

Busy work, not much to say as everything should be self-evident except the image is upside down for clarity. :D

http://i.imgur.com/W6FVXjN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W6FVXjNl.jpg

Blackadder

08-22-2017, 06:36 AM

Completed Basic Buttress:

With end piece inverted pyramids completed

http://i.imgur.com/1yit1WN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1yit1WNl.jpg

We are now ready to address the deck.

The deck will be a rectangle 17 X 24 inches (43 X 61 CM)

Blackadder

08-22-2017, 05:52 PM

The Emperor Has Entered The Third Dimension:

With the realization that not much more could be done with a two dimensional chest I made allowances for a more robust facade.

http://i.imgur.com/oA6FQue.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oA6FQuel.jpg

The Buttresses installed (albeit held in place with hemostats) with allowances for positioning I will be proceeding with the cutting in of the superstructure deck.

http://i.imgur.com/LA6cK9s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LA6cK9sl.jpg

my mind's eye has main gun arms and supports engineering, command decks, and all important altars to the Ominissiah Machine God and suitable Tech Priests to carry out the requisite ritual.

Onward and upward the superstructure is nascent in my brain.

Blackadder

08-23-2017, 12:59 PM

The Deck, Another Milestone:

17 inches by 24 (43 CM by 61 CM) a six dollar piece of styrene that will ultimately be covered up....

http://i.imgur.com/0k7SyMj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0k7SyMjl.jpg

but necessary if I want to glue my superstructure to it.

(Warning: Frontal Nudity) :D
http://i.imgur.com/TTeqMjx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TTeqMjxl.jpg

It all has to be of extremely light weight.

http://i.imgur.com/bxh3yFV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bxh3yFVl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pOH8B1v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pOH8B1vl.jpg

Blackadder

08-25-2017, 02:20 PM

Now It Can Be Told.

I finally managed to isolate a decent image from the video model I've been working from. As you can see I've followed the concept rather closely but installed a few of my own and others ideas. Such as a different 'head' and raising the head off the waist plate; in this case about 4 inches (10 CM)

I like the idea of the Imperial Eagle wing in the buttress but that may be a late add on. Right now I am working on the deck. Where the artist uses corbel to support the front edge I shall be using PVC 'cove' moulding. Enhanced with strip styrene trim; you'll get the idea once I start the process.......

http://i.imgur.com/0XAxJDy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0XAxJDyl.jpg

Laters, I'm off to cut the second course.

Lord Tothe

08-26-2017, 01:36 AM

New life goal: See a battle between this and Orkasmatron (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?34471-Using-the-Great-Gargant-Orkasmatron-in-Apocalypse)

Blackadder

08-26-2017, 04:17 AM

Now this raises an interesting point regarding Forgeworld discrimination. To date there are five resin Titans in the Imperium of Man; Mars and Lucius. Two in Chaos (also men technically) I myself am waiting for a Chaos Warlord before I plunk down my hard earned shekels. One rather fey Eldar Titan Warhound equivalent and a Ork Gargant, also Warhound size, and a rather blandly designed Necron Titan which is more properly a tank. Why is FW ignoring the proponents of other Galactic races whilst doting on the armies of the backwater Third Rock from the Sun? I claim Galactic racial bias, shame on you FW.

From a selfish standpoint I want an interesting 'Emperor' equivalent for one of the other interstellar races to model because where do I go from here after I finish this Titan. And it has to be ambulatory.

Lord Tothe

08-26-2017, 02:15 PM

Orks tend to use tread bases for their biggest gargants in the fluff, and their smaller walker titans just look silly in my opinion. I plan to scratch-build and/or kitbash a PROPPA ORKY STOMPA eventually. Pinterest is full of awesomeness on that scale. But I have no idea where to go if I ever get to building a Warlord equivalent.

Blackadder

08-27-2017, 01:08 PM

Massive:

One of the problems I notice about many scratchbuilds is the author does not build massive enough. Particularly floors, walls, hydraulic cylinders/pistons and in this case the DECK.

My deck right now is 19,44 MM (A skosh over 49/64 inch) thick; about 4 feet 8 inches thick. Still seems rather thin to me but I still have to add the bulwarks which will double the thickness in appearance at least.

http://i.imgur.com/2FT99sf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2FT99sfl.jpg

The quarter view shows the depth of the model which suits my eye for the time being.

http://i.imgur.com/lLICDnN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lLICDnNl.jpg

And the side view shows I need to increase the rear overhang by about 25 scale feet. to allow for the main Cathedral/Fortification

http://i.imgur.com/fk8jegb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fk8jegbl.jpg

Omnissiah bless me.

Blackadder

08-29-2017, 01:58 PM

Originally I was going to skin the bottom of the deck with 0.040inch (1,0 MM) sheet styrene but to lose all this gratis detail would be a crime. The honeycomb pattern I believe will look phenomenal especially when picked out with Ad Mech paraphernalia plus giving a ready base for Gothic substructure.

http://i.imgur.com/MvSu8xJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MvSu8xJl.jpg

I've used about all of the 2 foot by 4 foot panel with barely enough left for my proposed interior wall structure.

http://i.imgur.com/jIAACTD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jIAACTDl.jpg

A wise investment indeed.

Blackadder

08-30-2017, 08:39 AM

Surely the mechanicum would have mitred corners??

Not necessary, each corner has a octagon shaped pilbox so I need only cut off the excess once the glue has dried. Incidentally and thanks for reminding me I need to make these rhombus shape structures removable to prevent damage when the Titan is disassembled.

http://i.imgur.com/c3B9o8q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Oos68Ao.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MZDw5Na.jpg

And an interior shot of the Emperor Titan War Room

http://i.imgur.com/NlMfAFx.jpg

Incidentally this is an excellent video showing an Emperor Titan in motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0klMZ7r8M&t=162s

Blackadder

08-30-2017, 01:17 PM

Skitarii Not Included:

My loyal readers must be getting tired of what looks like virtually the same images but trust me there is a lot of work that goes into the interim between sets of images.

http://i.imgur.com/rDghlAT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rDghlATl.jpg

Plus this b@$tard just looks so GD cool between shots I just can't help taking photos.

http://i.imgur.com/YOGcJob.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YOGcJobl.jpg

It makes me regret taking so long to begin working on a God Machine.

http://i.imgur.com/INc4qXz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/INc4qXzl.jpg

Lots of people had asked but I just couldn't find the right initiative to begin the build.

Many thanks to the various unsung internet artists that contributed to this effort knowingly and otherwise. If you see your work in this please let me know.

Blackadder

09-02-2017, 06:42 AM

Look Ma, No Clamps!

So finally after a week's work since I got the idea to use a defusing panel for the deck of the superstructure I'm able to demonstrate the 3D aspect of the chest area.

https://i.imgur.com/mdqKL3z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mdqKL3zl.jpg

Utilizing the waffle design recesses the hanging structures plug right in, require no gluing and so are readily removable for transporting and storing.

https://i.imgur.com/rTI9dZF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rTI9dZFl.jpg

I wish I could say I planned it that way but no, the idea just came to me in a fit of desperate inspiration.

https://i.imgur.com/ToyB8cd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ToyB8cdl.jpg

Another unplanned bit of luck, the corbel's outrigger buttresses were spaced just about perfect to span the corners of the deck almost as if it were designed that way. :Whew:

https://i.imgur.com/16u5G9V.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/16u5G9Vl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VJgTk1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VJgTk1nl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/djaoAjx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/djaoAjxl.jpg

So with this accomplished and the front overhang somewhat justified I can begin the command compartments and design the main weapon arms this weekend.

Blackadder

09-03-2017, 05:26 AM

The Corner Turrets:

I've become quite adept at handling the very brittle diffuser panel material. When I first began it seemed almost impossible to cut without mishap but now I have a feel for how much stress the individual cell walls can take. Of the original eight square feet of the panel I have about two sq ft left. I am going today to buy another sheet.

These (styrene compatible) panels, custom cut by me, to the various shapes required will figure prominently in my builds from now on as an easy way to add bulk without a lot of weight and material plus the square design makes for very accurate construction.

Now regarding the image below; these will be the internal bracing for the turrets. The first order of business is to cut and sand them to uniform size.

https://i.imgur.com/Q65n2z9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q65n2z9l.jpg

Having cut out the turret frames last night, after sleeping on the problem, today I'll be adding skin to them for strength and preparing the connecting strips to flesh out the turret octagonal walls.

https://i.imgur.com/vsRWbDp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vsRWbDpl.jpg

Hopefully more images today...............

Blackadder

09-04-2017, 05:16 AM

Corner Turrets:

Once again I am relying on my eye to proportion these components as the drawing I am working from is too vague and in perspective to measure accurately.

https://i.imgur.com/zIhZwbR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zIhZwbRl.jpg

Note also my octogons' are sides are still not equal in width. I intend to correct this with subsequent layers of 0.030 inch styrene.

https://i.imgur.com/fyHWAw5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fyHWAw5.jpg

My work area and basic tools here show nothing special is needed to make these models. There are tools that facilitate the manufacture; drills and belt sanders &etc but mostly I work with hand tools in front of the computer screen while I watch/listen to the news.

https://i.imgur.com/A3vSJjK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/A3vSJjKl.jpg

Note the paint vial used as a spacer, It appears captured for the time being but only until seven sides are built. Then it will be removed. The reason for this will become apparent as the turret framework progresses.............

Blackadder

09-04-2017, 12:35 PM

A Front Row Seat:

At what very likely be one of my failures. When I thought this up it seemed very simple.

https://i.imgur.com/3eVFIDy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3eVFIDyl.jpg

But the reality may be more difficult.

I'm trying to make a simple eight sided cone with strips all in one piece converging on the apex of the cone and being symmetrical all at once.

A worthy experiment but I'm afraid doomed to failure.....

https://i.imgur.com/zPAEMyU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zPAEMyUl.jpg

And you're here to watch Ha!

Blackadder

09-06-2017, 11:33 AM

Well D-mn me it worked.

and no one is more surprised that I am.

While somewhat crude the shape and size is right and when all the embellishments are added it will be just about right. I am quite happy with the result.

https://i.imgur.com/TmxF3BW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TmxF3BWl.jpg

One thing that will have to be done is lower the bottom edge until it is even with the under deck cove molding.

https://i.imgur.com/2XsMkQA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2XsMkQAl.jpg

Now I just have to make 3 more.

Blackadder

09-10-2017, 07:58 AM

Trammel Point Tool

One of these days I have to invest in a trammel point tool and today was today. Sometimes you need to draw an arc such as today where I needed a 8.1 inch radius arc. You can make an impromptu tool with a strip of styrene and two sharp pencils but the tool is so much quicker.

anyway:

https://i.imgur.com/rwNd7eY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rwNd7eYl.jpg

I need two truncated cones of the bottom of my turrets and the mouth wash cups are ideal for a 3D template to manufacture these.

https://i.imgur.com/kyWN68d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kyWN68dl.jpg

I'm using 0.020 (thousands) inch styrene so its a bit stiff to form into a cone shape so its best to draw the arc segment over the sharp edge of a table applying pressure with your palm to impart a curve to the arc sheet.

https://i.imgur.com/6f1nBOy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6f1nBOyl.jpg

Alternately you can wrap the arced pieces tightly and leave for a while secured wit rubber bands to impart an curve.

Blackadder

09-11-2017, 03:57 AM

Just an interim update of the weekend progress. I've decided to detail the corner turrets to practice the viability of my ambitious project.

https://i.imgur.com/dBjttUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dBjttUBl.jpg

I was of two minds in how to finish the turret rooves, layered shingle vs the ubiquitous skulls and eagle and banners or CoD bitz. I opted for a layered plate armour effect you see; why, because it's cheaper, cooler and harder to do and I'm batsh!t crazy.

Blackadder

09-12-2017, 05:17 PM

Oh My God

Machine, I've not much to say about this

https://i.imgur.com/RKeABLR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RKeABLRl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NgLplqC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NgLplqCl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TV9EGqk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TV9EGqkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xQJa0Jc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xQJa0Jcl.jpg

but the square recesses have proven their worth in that I can position the corbels anywhere I like (Within reason...) and the deck looks very promising regarding size and massiveness.

I can't wait to start detailing this sucker.

Blackadder

09-13-2017, 01:20 PM

A New Way To Do It:

This puts me in mind of a poem from my youth:

There was a young lady from Norway
Who hung by her heels in a doorway
She call to her lover
Come quickly my dear
I think I've discovered one more way.

https://i.imgur.com/q0VYaqg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q0VYaqgl.jpg

These lighting panels will revolutionize build large scale models. Right now I am building the gate house structure bastions of which there will be two with the Gate/Portcullis between.

https://i.imgur.com/WoLboWy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WoLboWyl.jpg

To think these ready made panels have been available for decades and I've only just discovered them now.

Blackadder

09-16-2017, 02:23 PM

Garderobe:

It took the better part of a week to build these turrets. I must be slowing down in my dotage.

https://i.imgur.com/2OV212R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2OV212Rl.jpg

The shingles, try as I might ,still look too crude and the turrets look for all the world like two privy chambers on the corners of the bastion.

https://i.imgur.com/DKHRWFT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DKHRWFTl.jpg

Blackadder

09-23-2017, 12:15 PM

Main Armament Support Arms:

Everything about this model is outsized. I am not use to working with such huge dimensions. My work area is too small. It gobbles up material at a tremendous rate. Tubes of glue are expended at an alarming rate. I remember when Testors glue was a dime a tube. Now it is $2.50 and these laminate panels take a lot of gluing even though I am saving money using the honeycomb material.

https://i.imgur.com/aFn2m35.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aFn2m35l.jpg

The two rounded ends are the main gun mounts. The cross arm is crudely shaped at present until the front skin is applied.

Everything will be laminated to save weight or the model would be incredibly top-heavy. This arm when completed will be about two inches thick (52 MM). so we're talking five layers of these. I'll need to make another plastic run for 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) sheeting.

Each one of the squares is a half an inch (13 MM)so you can get an idea of the dimensions I'm working with.

Lord Tothe

09-23-2017, 08:12 PM

The shingles, try as I might ,still look too crude and the turrets look for all the world like two privy chambers on the corners of the bastion.

Once there's a gun protruding from them and they've had a coat of paint, they'll look fine. You could ditch the conical roof for an AA turret though, I suppose.

Blackadder

09-27-2017, 12:31 PM

Main Gun Mount Yoke:

Today I finally finished the rough laminate build of the Gun Mount Yoke. This was a major production, tedious in the extreme and the amount of glue required was staggering. Two full tubes of Testors cement dribbled on each and every spine and cross piece with six sheets of 0.030 inch 0,075 MM styrene between the honeycomb sheets. Everyone in the house was high on the fumes with the exception of me strangely enough.

https://i.imgur.com/ZwfuvZk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZwfuvZkl.jpg

The Layers look rather crude now but I dressed the upper mount edge and plotted my Inner edge line culminating in a freehand yoke arch which seems satisfactory.

https://i.imgur.com/rdtke7M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rdtke7Ml.jpg

Fortunately I have a built in French Curves in my mind's eye so I don't have to resort to using them. One of these days I'll have to learn how to use them. Ha!

https://i.imgur.com/pIAf5ui.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pIAf5uil.jpg

Anyway a half hour or so on the belt sander and the job is done. Not too shoddy if I do say so; I'll have to finish sand by hand but I'm about ready to start detailing the yoke.

https://i.imgur.com/5Jf7Dsh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5Jf7Dshl.jpg

Blackadder

09-29-2017, 05:59 AM

Weight May Be a Problem:

The component I am building is loosely based on a 'Warren Truss' bridge.

https://i.imgur.com/gRsN5KT.jpg

albeit 'enclosed' with the trusses displayed on the exterior for interesting detail. Not being an engineer I don't know the actual nomenclature of the structure. It is 23 inches (59 CM) long between the penciled in guide lines labeled 'Beam' Excluding the roughed in ends.

This component as of right now masses 1.18 pounds (.505 kilo)

https://i.imgur.com/0SegaRS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0SegaRSl.jpg

Naturally the model does not need such a massive structure but a "real Life" Emperor the span would need to support the Cathedral-like superstructure and the suspended wing arms which I believe would in some configurations be firing projectiles hence a nod must be given to recoil and mass/arm/moment.

Many of the Emperor/ Battle Titans I have seen do not allow for real life weight and look to spindly especially in the legs and gun support mounts. Regardless on how you configure the details you must make your model believable in that the structure has to withstand the stresses of massive steel/ceramic/ adamantine what-have-you structures. Also a bit of grace must be adopted for aesthetics when possible.

Lord Tothe

10-02-2017, 03:41 PM

The web pattern looks OK to me, and I do have just enough of a drafting background to be dangerous.

Blackadder

10-03-2017, 05:26 PM

Main Weapon Yoke:

This turned out much better than I hoped it could. I'm basing it on the most ephemeral of images and I had only a smidgen of the overall detail.

https://i.imgur.com/hS1DBXM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hS1DBXMl.jpg

Tomorrow I hope to have it mounted beneath the superstructure decking.

https://i.imgur.com/fb9vjPn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fb9vjPnl.jpg

Once mounted I'll see how it melds with the overall plan but for now it sure looks like it means business. :D

Blackadder

10-03-2017, 06:57 PM

A Quicky:

Just a quicky before I quit for the night.

https://i.imgur.com/emV5HLH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/emV5HLHl.jpg

Damn!

Blackadder

10-04-2017, 01:00 PM

Requests Honored:

I received a few requests for more information and photos so here's a different view of the same stage of the build.

https://i.imgur.com/jJyiv0g.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jJyiv0gl.jpg

The lollipop shaped appendages jutting from both sides of the model will eventually be the main weapons yoke. It is a torsion box assembly built up layers of styrene 2 ft X 4 ft Florescent light lens $14 bucks a pop at the local HomeDepot. I am using this material extensively throughout this model mainly because it is much cheaper than Hobby Store styrene and is a great weight saving building material.

https://i.imgur.com/L894Zio.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L894Ziol.jpg

I commandeered the Master Bedroom in my home for a Den/Workshop/TV/computer room as it was the second biggest room in the house and all we did was sleep in it; ahem......

https://i.imgur.com/jTByLCd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jTByLCdl.jpg

Finally it's my work cubical that is constantly being messed up. For some unknown reason I cannot keep it orderly and I hate wasting precious building time cleaning and vacuuming styrene dust. The above rear view shows I've done precious little to the interior decking and have used partially built subassemblies to buttress up the deck to take these images.

Now with the yoke firmly in place I can address building the interior decks of which I believe there will be five including a railed walk around exterior veranda so Belisarius Cawl can watch the battle from above the fray. These interior decks will be in addition to the Cathedral/fortress superstructure so there will be plenty of room for accommodations of the Officers of the Church.

Blackadder

10-05-2017, 06:33 AM

One of my greatest fears was to diminish my Warlord's stature by building an Emperor Titan. In a side by side comparison the Warlord which stands about 28 inches tall will be dwarfed by the 40 inch tall Emperor.

https://i.imgur.com/eIl2kKx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eIl2kKxl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ESOJPZa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ESOJPZal.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bLeeiJi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bLeeiJil.jpg

I suppose that cannot be helped.

Haighus

10-07-2017, 08:27 AM

Wow, serious progress has been made again! That is shaping up to be quite the impressive monstrosity! Full of gothic grandeur and threat, and does indeed have a hefty plausibility to the construction.

Blackadder

10-07-2017, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the reply,

Unbounded Mania

My mania is boundless once I fixate on a project. I mistakenly took a shortcut in the initial construction of the chest turrets and have found a better way to reproduce the Gothic windows indicated by the pointer arrow.

https://i.imgur.com/gv0PiSf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gv0PiSfl.jpg

I may or may not rebuild the other four penetrations above the wooden turret spheres but I do like the carrying on of the Gothic theme with styrene strip stock

https://i.imgur.com/DmgbbDG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DmgbbDGl.jpg

Meanwhile I'll complete the two single window sets and prepare them for installation.

https://i.imgur.com/ur17IND.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ur17INDl.jpg

A couple of skulls and gewgaws and they are ready for installing.

https://i.imgur.com/hpusare.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hpusarel.jpg

BTW I've found the author of this titan version on Deviant Art; one Boazzz who has produced a fantastic version of a Emperor Titan that I shall be following (with a Few modifications) for the rest of this build.

https://i.imgur.com/50SkSIl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/50SkSIll.jpg

A tip of my hat to Mr Joazzz for his monumental inspiration.

Blackadder

10-08-2017, 11:44 AM

I Gotta Learn To Work Faster:

Wow, two days in the making and I'll wager no one will ever notice them when this thing is complete.

https://i.imgur.com/HeMGAha.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HeMGAhal.jpg

That is until the stained glass windows are lit up.

https://i.imgur.com/J4WBhAR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/J4WBhARl.jpg

But seriously I've got to make about forty of these things in various shapes and sizes and I need to get an assembly line going once the basic castle architecture is complete.

These two were just a test run to get an idea of the feasibility.

Blackadder

10-09-2017, 04:18 AM

Gack! I misspelled his sobriquet! It's Joazzz not Boazzz. Take a look at his breathtaking 3D renderings on 'DA' and 'Facepunch'

Here's two more examples of his work.

https://i.imgur.com/kiC4SD9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kiC4SD9l.jpg

I heightened the contrast on the image below to accent the detail.

https://i.imgur.com/C1iQg0D.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C1iQg0Dl.jpg

With these two shots I can pretty much extrapolate what needs be fabricated. They are so much better than that which I have been working from up 'til now.

Blackadder

10-10-2017, 11:23 AM

Play Time:

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. I got a hankering to do some detail so finding and modifying an Imperial Eagle I found on google and tracing it on a sheet of styrene is where I am right now. I intend to make half a dozen of these and some into a bas relief but first I'm starting with a sheet of 0,020 styrene for a durable pattern.

https://i.imgur.com/EQjvwt1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EQjvwt1l.jpg

Blackadder

10-11-2017, 02:29 PM

So There's An Eagle Back There?

Two days of cutting out Eagles and this is the result. Talk about exercise in futility, but at least I'll know that they are there.

https://i.imgur.com/bZonhqe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bZonhqel.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LfMovdf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LfMovdfl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8b6Vib0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8b6Vib0l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Kz5zHCV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Kz5zHCVl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vyW537G.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vyW537Gl.jpg

Maybe after they are gilded they'll show up better. Anyway that's how they appear on the 3D model.

Haighus

10-12-2017, 03:44 PM

Your attention to detail on this project is amazing. This beast will look magnificent once completed.

Blackadder

10-15-2017, 03:24 PM

Clutchin' At Straws:

I've got this huge space between the deck and the Main Arm Support Yoke that has to be filled with some awesome Titiany stuff. So right now I am experimenting with Cod Bitz to try to com up with a unique techy/churchy facade that covers three floors of the interior behind the head.

https://i.imgur.com/EEEvskn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EEEvsknl.jpg

This is the first attempt and I'm not too pleased with the huge doors.

https://i.imgur.com/YCNkW2b.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YCNkW2bl.jpg

It seems to diminish the over all size of the figures compared to the Titan.

https://i.imgur.com/KOGotwh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KOGotwhl.jpg

Stepping back the effect isn't as bad but I need a rational for the oversized doors and as I type this the Adeptus Mechanicus Tech Priest Dominus' are just the ticket and the Belisarius Cawl can use the double front doors

https://i.imgur.com/EuoBfvf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EuoBfvfl.jpg

Ha! Problem is solved.

I planned to have the two outsized clergy overseeing the battle from the balcony vantage point all along and purely by accident I made the way they can access the balcony. Talk about serendipity.

Haighus

10-16-2017, 04:25 AM

I'm assuming the large gap is for the piston to connect to the arm? Based on the above 3d model.

Blackadder

10-16-2017, 06:39 AM

As I have previously stated the model has no plan with which to work from so some problems manifest themselves as I proceed. I mounted the 'Main Arm Yoke' before I had reasoned out the recently made side panel. Now I find the yoke is positioned too far aft by about a half inch. For the sake of artistic symmetry I need to bring the yoke forward.

I also am working on a second level maintenance platform hence the gap you pointed out. I need a door onto that platform and possibly an access into the yoke. The Piston you mentioned serves no purpose that I can devine. the yoke beam is rigid and unarticulated so the piston extends or retracts to what purpose? Extending or retracting the yoke arm affords little in the way of benefit. The yet to be produced mount bracket will serve to elevate or depress the muzzle and the plate will allow a training arc of some 30°.

Blackadder

10-17-2017, 05:33 PM

Skinning:

So it's time to skin the yoke. A straightforward application of 0.040 inch/ 1 MM styrene to cover all the internal structure.

https://i.imgur.com/YEq238u.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YEq238ul.jpg

It takes a lot of styrene glue and a few gluing clamps but other than leaving an excess of styrene for slight variations in the surface, all the gluing takes is a bit of care and patience.

https://i.imgur.com/eYBMLvW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eYBMLvWl.jpg

When dried sand off the excess with sanding blocks and files.

https://i.imgur.com/O5BaWsy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/O5BaWsyl.jpg

Worthy of note, I don't use green stuff, it makes for a sloppy looking interim stage so instead I just use Thin Cement and as I sand, the styrene dust settles in the cracks and the cement dissolves it so when dry the crack/blemish is repaired with the same material as the model.

https://i.imgur.com/yLXpxpw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yLXpxpwl.jpg

Blackadder

10-19-2017, 05:56 AM

I Don't Care:

I'm posting it anyway. I'm trying to rationalize the second level engineering where I plan to have the reactor and some sort of mumbo jumbo altar to solicit favor from the Machine God.

https://i.imgur.com/CA55iTn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CA55iTnl.jpg

The first level replete with appropriate iconic bells and whistles but the second level were the real work be done has a more utilitarian aspect.

https://i.imgur.com/bYt6RAX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bYt6RAXl.jpg

Yeah I know I have to move the hinges and the door at present leads to a ruddy great step down but all that will be addressed.

https://i.imgur.com/aobzoOE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aobzoOEl.jpg

What is of most significance is that purely by happenstance I managed to get the yoke in precisely the proper position to bisect the side panel perfectly.

https://i.imgur.com/CA55iTn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CA55iTnl.jpg

Too bad I can't manage to apply that precision in real life.

Blackadder

10-21-2017, 01:10 PM

Imperial Eagle 2.0

Some major changes in the works in an attempt to improve on the overall appearance of the facade. There were a few things I was not satisfied with..............

https://i.imgur.com/Kz5zHCV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Kz5zHCVl.jpg

The Imperial Eagle being one so here we have the 2.0 version which I believe will look better.

https://i.imgur.com/dDwzPj4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dDwzPj4l.jpg

Right now just in paper while I adjust the size and space out the flight feathers better......

Eventually the overall effect will be something like this.......

https://i.imgur.com/betOwbQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/betOwbQl.jpg

Which I believe will show up better and have a more practical value as an upper deck support corbel as well as being decorative.

More to come later but now I have to take my Lithium; Hahaaaaaa!

Blackadder

10-23-2017, 08:04 AM

Belisarius Cawl

While I am rebuilding the various areas of the chest region I broke out the Belisarius Cawl to see how it will look on the command balcony.....

Assembly hint this model is very delicate and painting it will be a chore especially when completely assembled so I added what the manufacturer should have mainly a stem between the upper body and the lower. Just a piece of sprue about half an inch long carved down to fit in a hole drilled into the upper body.

The lower body has an irregular shaped hole that needs to be cut larger to receive the piece of sprue.

Right now I've only painted the skirt and cloak with flat red and grey primed the rest of the metallic parts which I believe I will finish in graphite and gold.

https://i.imgur.com/Uq1wtDK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Uq1wtDKl.jpg

After the model is painted the two assemblies can be glued together or as I intend just put together dry.

Blackadder

10-26-2017, 12:23 PM

Imperial Eagle 2.01

Well I like it, Since I established how I was going to finish off the chest facade I've be quite busy with domestic projects but I finally finished the rough revamping of the Imperial Eagles stylized as they are to represent support corbels on either side of the chest.

https://i.imgur.com/jvQDwM0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jvQDwM0l.jpg

The problem has vexed me for the past month and I am very fortunate to have not compromised and just glued everything in place only to have to scrap a good deal of work had it been glued together. (I think that is a sentence.) So now we can settle into adding the eagle assemblies to the structure while showing they do have a purposeful function; something they hadn't before.

Blackadder

10-28-2017, 12:15 PM

Eagle Corbel

The first of two eagle corbels is almost done so before I close it up I'd like to display the internal detail so you can see how it is made. Just pretend the waffle grid is all that is there and the skin and surface details are still to be installed.....

https://i.imgur.com/WIHarZx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WIHarZxl.jpg

The three quarter end on view shows the approximate thickness of the finished corbel approximately a scale metric meter in thickness.

https://i.imgur.com/NoKhmgt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NoKhmgtl.jpg

I used the freehand drawing of the eagle on styrene for a template to shape the internal waffle grid and cut the grid with handsaw and belt sander.

https://i.imgur.com/5ydqYB4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5ydqYB4.jpg

I glued the eagle to a 0.020 (0,50 MM) thick styrene sheet and cut it to fit the corbel frame glued and sanded the edges, added a reinforcing strip to the edge of the wing and glued on an accent stringer, filed off the excess reinforcing strip and glued the Gothic window gable to the end and Walla; it's ready to be installed on the model.

https://i.imgur.com/g9jU0xZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/g9jU0xZl.jpg

Whew, I can't believe it actually worked. Now that it is actually done I can show on the next one (I need two of these) the actual work. No point of showing the process if it actually failed to reach fruition.

Yeah, that's how I work.

Blackadder

10-30-2017, 08:05 AM

Good Things Happen:

Don't you hate it when good things happen to bad people. While Blackadder isn't exactly bad he's ill deserving of the luck granted him by the Omnissiah. This is coming out as if it were planned

https://i.imgur.com/a6m035J.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a6m035Jl.jpg

Too many coincidences to be not under the guiding hand/claw/tentacle of the Machine God. The length verses scale of the Aquila, the size of the constructions on either side of the head. Even the placement of the weapons yoke vis-à-vis the upper deck have the aspect of pre-planning that I assure you is only the purest luck.

https://i.imgur.com/KA63RcE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KA63RcEl.jpg

Likewise the corner reinforcement hanging buttresses constructions are of a size and shape that lend themselves to incredibly purposeful design planning that again is mere happenstance. What I thought was an eclipse of never to be seen detail turns out to be within the 40K penchant for over accessorizing.

https://i.imgur.com/jusGg1j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jusGg1jl.jpg

Even the tiny gabled window seen here in the shadows seems to fit ideally as the Master planned Whom I shall take this time to credit the 3D designer of the Emperor Titan I am currently using as a guide. One Mister Joazzz whose images I have posted elsewhere in this thread. I hereby credit him for the inspiration of this project.

https://i.imgur.com/2Pn6sOp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2Pn6sOpl.jpg

It also gives me a direction of how to proceed with the underside of the superstructure platform. I now plan to capture the airyness of the between the Wars Warships of the hangar catapult bridge structure so often incorporated in their design. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5d/54/b6/5d54b67ed6c496fd49d2447f5a822c88--aircraft-carrier-wwii.jpg

Blackadder

10-31-2017, 10:01 AM

Fury Of Activity

In a fury of activity I accomplished the second one of these corbels in record time surprising even myself. I need fit only a few pieces of plastic where they glued crooked

https://i.imgur.com/67uAPQ6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/67uAPQ6l.jpg

I will now begin some surgery to the chest plates to open up the area and give a more airy and interesting appearance to the underside of the deck.

https://i.imgur.com/ODrRmw7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ODrRmw7l.jpg

If these images look strange it is because I inverted them. The bas relief eagle shows up better for some reason inverted.

Haighus

10-31-2017, 11:11 AM

It is good to see th detail developing. Do you plan to complete the main body of the titan below the deck before moving on to the cathedral atop?

Blackadder

10-31-2017, 07:23 PM

It is good to see the detail developing. Do you plan to complete the main body of the titan below the deck before moving on to the cathedral atop?

Yes, the rear of the Titan main body is incorporated in the upper works. Only from the front and the forward sides are the superstructures separate from the main body.

Thanks for the question.

Back On Track:

I have finally seen where I went wrong

https://i.imgur.com/Yx2BTJr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Yx2BTJrl.jpg

It took the removal of the triangular chest panels to show me where the error lay

https://i.imgur.com/3XGAaeG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3XGAaeGl.jpg

With the arms yoke exposed I realized I had broken the rule I cited early on in this construction where I stated that the main problem with most of these walking buildings is they looked too much like walking buildings.

https://i.imgur.com/cfR4l91.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cfR4l91l.jpg

So after I show the full effect of the front elevation of the torso I'll begin again on the side pieces under the yoke. The work don there previously will be incorporated elsewhere.

https://i.imgur.com/334lIW7
https://i.imgur.com/334lIW7l.jpg

The side doors will have to go.

Blackadder

11-01-2017, 10:03 AM

Sanding Blocks:

An indispensible item for making these models are my home made sanding blocks.

https://i.imgur.com/F2lZQyQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F2lZQyQl.jpg

I got this idea from an old Radio Control model aircraft builder who always designed and built his own balsa and fabric models. The blocks as he demonstrated worked wonders shaping the soft balsa. He made the blocks himself using aircraft rug tape to affix the sandpaper to the blocks. When I graduated to scratchbuilt wooden model ship building I continued the practice of making these blocks refining the size so I could get two blocks out of a single sheet of sandpaper. Since I no longer build wooden ship models I have no need for the finer grit paper so I'm recovering my old 180 and 220 grit blocks with coarse 60 and 80 grits. I use 3M aluminum oxide paper as it is sharper than sand paper. first wrapping the block with the double back tape and then applying the paper to the block.

Give it a try if you are seriously into model building. It's better than any commercial sanding block in my opinion.

Blackadder

11-03-2017, 10:54 AM

OMG

Blackadder if fickle but Oh My God this is something I have to emulate. I just wish I knew who the artist is and if he has any other views of this machine. I was browsing tumbler for ideas and came across this no nonsense Emperor Titan that I am afraid makes mine look rather toylike. there is no other words for it.

https://i.imgur.com/07c2jX2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/07c2jX2l.jpg

The massiveness of the outriggers on either side of the head, the overall solidness of the outriggers, thighs, and lower legs plus the realism of the superstructure and upper works is astounding.

In an attempt to enhance the detail I brightened the image and increased the contrast.

https://i.imgur.com/Aqhlq7m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aqhlq7ml.jpg

This has given me a whole new way to proceed on this construction borrowing liberally from both authors. But look at those shoulders and those guns. Truly the Machine God has been brought to life.

Blackadder

11-05-2017, 01:51 PM

Can't Get No......

Satisfaction.

On rethinking this project I find I was in error putting Cathedral parts in what ostensibly was the engineering area. We need some techie looking cryptic machinery instead of monastic facades

https://i.imgur.com/qrgPqfi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qrgPqfil.jpg

So out with the old and in with the new.

https://i.imgur.com/mDWpKKx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mDWpKKxl.jpg

This may work out and it ties the overhead yoke to the chest plate structures neatly.

https://i.imgur.com/V3pMz2a.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/V3pMz2al.jpg

I may also have room for a maintenance catwalk (I do like catwalks)

https://i.imgur.com/KjZFQPV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KjZFQPVl.jpg

This design will give me more creative options when I tie in the rear exhaust structures as well.

Blackadder

11-06-2017, 09:30 AM

3D Analog Modeling:

I love this stuff. This grid material is so relatively cheap and so versatile that it is rapidly becoming my basic building platform.

https://i.imgur.com/jugJgeE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jugJgeEl.jpg

Anyway I shall be using these angled constitutions for the 3 floors of engineering so I am considering gluing them in place.

https://i.imgur.com/Yo4AcLp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Yo4AcLpl.jpg

The positioning of these panels is just about perfect as if the Deus Mechanicus were guiding my hand.............

https://i.imgur.com/uohMq6H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uohMq6Hl.jpg

I now can reconsider adding the spurious hydraulic cylinders after all; Omnissiah be praised.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBil.jpg

Now I just have to rationalize it's purpose????

Haighus

11-06-2017, 04:32 PM

Lord Tothe

11-06-2017, 10:26 PM

Perhaps just modify the pistons into heavy duty conduits and cables? Then it keeps the same aesthetic appearance, but has a definite purpose. Would also make sense, as the conduits would lead straight into the reactor room.

They could be external to avoid impairing the structural integrity of the yoke, as it has to support huge recoil.

I agree with this - the central reactor needs to power the mechanism that maneuvers the guns, and external gribbly bitz is the Imperial Aesthetic. You could even use the same stuff you used for cabling on the head somewhere, right? And you can always add more catwalks while you're at it instead if that suits you better!

Blackadder

11-07-2017, 03:09 PM

Thanks for the replies.....

Back On Track:

Things are looking up now that I am back on track.

Below we se the first of eight trunnion mounts in place ready to receive the cylinders and piston rod ends with what I hope will be sufficiently robust to stand the torque to which they will be subjected (In the real world).
https://i.imgur.com/zpFncXW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zpFncXWl.jpg

Having worked around commercial aircraft for a good portion of my adult life one of the things I find in error about many of these Titan scrachbuilds is the lack of appreciating the forces imposed on the hydraulic actuators.....

https://i.imgur.com/egRe4Wo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/egRe4Wol.jpg

The Boeing 747 in particular with it's four robust main landing gear filled me with awe on first seeing the tremendous machined components carved out of titanium ingots with their almost organic contours. The structures mimicking some antediluvian monster's skeleton.

Blackadder

11-09-2017, 10:10 AM

Obsessive Compulsive Roll:

"You snooze you lose." as the saying goes. Last night while watching youtube and reading science articles I lost myself in autonomic reflex mode. Low and behold this morning I awoke to find my output was far greater than I thought.

https://i.imgur.com/VyhVIgu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VyhVIgul.jpg

Apparently I quadrupled my work in a night doing what would ostensibly 'by rote.' My mother was capable of this absentminded production as well. She could knit an afghan blanket whilst watching TV and be completely oblivious to the process.

Anyway the result seen here is a small portion of the entire Titan but eventually would have had to have been done and I'm glad it is but it's unnerving to have no memory of the process.

https://i.imgur.com/84E7pMe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/84E7pMel.jpg

Elves Maybe? Umpa-Lumpas?

Haighus

11-09-2017, 05:23 PM

They do look good. Your attention to detail is impressive.

Blackadder

11-11-2017, 01:51 PM

Weapons Mount Detail; Now It Can Be Explained:

Now that I have the Engineering levels side walls complete I can proceed with the yoke mounts with the hydraulic cylinder attach points.

https://i.imgur.com/uiO8LM0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uiO8LM0l.jpg

I am missing something on the detail as it appears the attach points have a circular rack and pinion system that allows the weapons to rotate as the yoke arm is raised and lowered. This came to me last night as I studied the drawing for the umpteenth time where it all came clear and the hydraulic system while seemingly unnecessary does have a purpose.

https://i.imgur.com/oclY04e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oclY04el.jpg

Hidden beneath the deck above the yoke must have an second hinge point that allows it to be raised and lowered by the hydraulic cylinders. The necessity for which or what ever reason I cannot fathom but it does explain much of the detail in the 3D image.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBil.jpg

Elevating and lowering the main weapons say a few meters cannot make that much difference when they are mounted 30 to 40 meters off the ground to my mind but the artist included it in his design and so shall I but I'll eschew the capacity of movement on my model.

It does make for some interesting detail and detail is what 'tis all about when you come down to it. :D

Haighus

11-12-2017, 06:25 PM

Maybe they are to the tuck the arms in for transport onboard the titan dropships.

Lord Tothe

11-13-2017, 01:56 AM

Elves Maybe? Umpa-Lumpas?

https://youtu.be/Wp8-UbRISZ4

Maybe they are to the tuck the arms in for transport onboard the titan dropships.

Y'know, it does look like each arm could have its own hinge point in the shoulder for that kind of mechanism. Sorry, Blackadder. More work.

Blackadder

11-13-2017, 06:09 AM

SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform;

As we approach the main armament mount ( A bit earlier than I intended. It would be a good idea to make sure the the 'guns' clear the hip joints.) there has been some speculation as to the functionality of the yoke arm hydraulic system.

I did some research into 'SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform' and found some interesting tidbits.

First of all the SARP appears to be a linear system i.e. in line with the gun barrel

Linear Elevation/Stabilization Drive:
https://i.imgur.com/WAcWlim.jpg

so this eliminates the hydraulics as a gyroscopic stabilizer as the arm is perpendicular to the barrels besides raising the whole arm is much too massive an undertaking for something as sensitive as ground affect stablization. The hydraulics of that size could not respond quick enough.

Second there has been some criticism of the trunnion mount of the main gun. Accidentally or purposefully the author's (Joazzz) trunnion mount works well with the stabilizer system:

https://i.imgur.com/nZKAT4R.jpg

albeit sufficiently built up to Emperor Titan scale.
and so we're back to the intended purpose of the Hydraulic actuated arm.

I have really got to get a life. :D

Blackadder

11-17-2017, 07:26 PM

A week Of Detailing:

A week of detailing and while gratifying that so much was accomplished now that it is all back together it doesn't seem like all that much.

This first image shows the Yoke detail where the hydraulics will mount on the arm extenders.

https://i.imgur.com/voFYSFG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/voFYSFGl.jpg

Pretty much the same shot from a lower angle.

https://i.imgur.com/QJnu0Rn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QJnu0Rnl.jpg

A quarter view showing the front yoke arm detail that required so much time for the actual amount of dressing up required.

https://i.imgur.com/4tELqEZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4tELqEZl.jpg

A 3/4 view of the left interior to show where the three maintenance/engineering decks will be and the reactor deck. I haven't worked that out yet.

https://i.imgur.com/JqiMoam.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqiMoaml.jpg

Finally a right 3/4 view showing off the weapon arm rack gear to it's best advantage and the sloppiness of my mancave/workshop.

https://i.imgur.com/hEkrwRJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hEkrwRJl.jpg

Time for a celebratory cognac and coffee.

Blackadder

11-19-2017, 08:02 PM

Finally:

Now that the yoke is roughed out I can devote time to the interior levels of the engineering decks. A spot dear to my heart as I am a frustrated engineer or at least pretend to be on the internet. :D

Below is the slide out deck of the first engineering level cut and ready to insert into the lower hull.

https://i.imgur.com/ElZ4BTy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ElZ4BTyl.jpg

And that deck temporarily in place for adjustment.

https://i.imgur.com/TMargRP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TMargRPl.jpg

I plan to have the Fusion Reactor on these levels as in my Warlord which will take up the lion's share of the space. There will be one sub deck, three engineering decks and an egress to the command bridge (head) plus the altar and various religious accoutrements to the Omnissiah.

Blackadder

11-22-2017, 07:10 PM

Jeez What a Mess:

All the sub components are just locked in place with interlocking tabs and while I know where the pieces actually go, the stability of the structures is tenuous at best.

Below we see the inner levels decks 2 through 4 deck 1 being done earlier this Summer. Decks 3 and 4 frame the yoke and have yet to receive their floors.

https://i.imgur.com/yVbqA9Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yVbqA9Zl.jpg

I have not worked out how they will be removable and how the neck will intersect with the third deck flooring. Some sort of bull nosed staircase I imagine. It will all look rather techish and decadent as befitting a titan interior but I have plans for an altar structure with attendant priests as in the Warlord.

https://i.imgur.com/hJtQNPy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hJtQNPyl.jpg

Above we see looking down at deck 2 and the two angled walls that will support the yoke and underside of the superstructure deck again rather sparsely connected without glue or screws so it all appears quite a jumble at the moment.

https://i.imgur.com/nnHxaDO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nnHxaDOl.jpg

The side view looking rather cleaner.

https://i.imgur.com/fr57fNz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fr57fNzl.jpg

With the superstructure deck reinstalled the whole thing begins to tie together (Note that the jaw has disconnected for the visor) but all the rest of the components locking into their respective locations with barely a millimeter discrepancy that I can measure. Much of the precision purely by luck I assure you.

https://i.imgur.com/zUVImBa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zUVImBal.jpg

And the right side view of this hodgepodge.

Blackadder

11-25-2017, 08:58 AM

A Series Of Interlocking Components:

It took a bit of doing but all the major components lock together to go from this .........

https://i.imgur.com/I4QDhMm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/I4QDhMml.jpg

To this .......

https://i.imgur.com/S7OFsf2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/S7OFsf2l.jpg

in about as much time as it takes (me) to type this. (Not being the world's fastest typist.)

https://i.imgur.com/0OHMIvq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0OHMIvql.jpg

So the entire model thus far can be disassembled for painting, upgrading and repaired at a whim.

https://i.imgur.com/lBdAkHK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lBdAkHKl.jpg

Now that the superstructure deck support is locked into place I can continue with the interior with the intermediate deck roughed in in the immediate above view.

https://i.imgur.com/f9Ho6TC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/f9Ho6TCl.jpg

With the deck removed you can visualize the two story engineering compartment.

Blackadder

11-29-2017, 02:14 PM

Desperation Is the Mother Of Invention:

I won't boor you with the details of how I made these plugs. The first view should be self explanatory

https://i.imgur.com/TlWNUhX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TlWNUhXl.jpg

Instead I'll boor you with the why.

I've got these two side supports that will ultimately hold up the tophamper

[BTW I weighed this beast this weekend and excluding the vise he weighs 12 pounds, (5.44311 Kilograms),(0.857143 stone), Twelve Pounds of STYRENE!]

Anyway that much weight will surely spread these walls especially since I will not be gluing them in place (I hope) so the problem is how do I lock them in place.

Once again the waffle light panel to the rescue.

https://i.imgur.com/N29ODWw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N29ODWwl.jpg

I made plugs that will fit snugly into the waffle recesses.

https://i.imgur.com/heklFqn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/heklFqnl.jpg

Naturally it would have been too much to expect that they would line up perfectly with the overhead deck so I attached a fudge factor plate to compensate for the misalignment. and glued the plug to the top of the side wall. (I won't go in to how exacting this was; especially for the first one :D )

https://i.imgur.com/uhZpelq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uhZpelql.jpg

Three more to go and I'll display the finished assembly. :D

Blackadder

11-30-2017, 08:45 AM

Fallen Into Place:

The four aligning plugs installed.

https://i.imgur.com/rkcrhfD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rkcrhfDl.jpg

Sorry for what appears to be repetitive images but there are the subtlest differences that entailed a lot of work that I feel I must apprise anyone following this thread aware. The aligning of the upper deck is most important for subsequent structures otherwise the model will become lopsided and sloppy.

https://i.imgur.com/FGxgtbZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FGxgtbZl.jpg

Note in particular the centering of the weapon yoke in the slot. Now that the sides are secure that arm is correctly brought to center.

https://i.imgur.com/NXLTpPz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NXLTpPzl.jpg

Now that the side panels are locked into place with the upper deck and the chest area I can proceed with the building of the interior and the rear of the titan.

Blackadder

12-04-2017, 06:22 AM

A Weekend's Effort:

Aside from my official duties I managed to find time to add some detail to this beast and attempt to refine a vexing discrepancy in my calculations. Note the adjustment of the cylinder trunnions.

https://i.imgur.com/uqAkjMb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uqAkjMbl.jpg

I still have to mount the magnets that will secure the piston end of the assemblies but I know I shall have to adjust the gap between the piston head and the armament yoke; hence the cutouts.

https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCwl.jpg

I still question the necessity for these hydraulics as they corrupt the clean lines of the model but I'll install the for the time being just to remain true to the prototype. The work will not be in vain as these cylinders can easily be adapted for the legs or ankles.

https://i.imgur.com/bvr37S2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bvr37S2l.jpg

Blackadder

12-07-2017, 02:53 PM

WhyLookLikeThis:

https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCwl.jpg

When You.....Can Look.....Like This:

https://i.imgur.com/qO5Tq20.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qO5Tq20l.jpg

I wasn't satisfied how the piston/snubbers/whatever, detracted from the sweeping elegance of the armament yoke yet rather than discard the whole concept I decided to play around a little.....

Aesthetically this looks better to me.

https://i.imgur.com/NJAn2og.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NJAn2ogl.jpg

When you are going to hydraulic systems that serve no purpose, at least they should look good; Right? :D

Blackadder

12-09-2017, 10:19 AM

Please Yourself and You Please Everyone

As the say'n goes. There seems a bit of controversy about my departure for the iconic 3D prototype but I think this looks much better.

https://i.imgur.com/jXTdCXw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jXTdCXwl.jpg

The side panels make more sense with this arrangement and it allows for a maintenance observation balcony that I think will add interest to the model plus the grander of the weapons mount yoke is undiminished.

https://i.imgur.com/KVnXAwb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KVnXAwbl.jpg

The dual actuators now have a purposeful appearance for what ever that may be.

https://i.imgur.com/FbDGRw4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FbDGRw4l.jpg

And disappear into the yoke to accomplish it.

Blackadder

12-10-2017, 07:34 PM

A Man A Plan

Whom I kidding, it's all serendipity.......

I've worked long and hard to reach this point this evening but these six images make it worth it. Every thing is falling into place including the three story engineering compartment with it's 15 foot ceilings.

https://i.imgur.com/4dmRD2w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4dmRD2wl.jpg

The fusion reactor will take up two of those decks.

The lower deck will open onto the platform under the head for the Adeptus Mechanicus Priests to supervise the battle a hundred feet above the fray

https://i.imgur.com/kkZa3fT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkZa3fTl.jpg

The upper balcony and promenade with egress through the blast doors to the cockpit

https://i.imgur.com/eKgx5FT
https://i.imgur.com/eKgx5FTl.jpg

Below another shot of the lower deck for scale

https://i.imgur.com/8KfEK7n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8KfEK7nl.jpg

The intermediate command deck where the tactical computers &etc will be displayed.

https://i.imgur.com/K5PU7Ah.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K5PU7Ahl.jpg

Finally an overall view of the three decks

https://i.imgur.com/mSlGEbX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mSlGEbXl.jpg

It's going to take a lot of bitz to clutter up all this space.

Blackadder

12-21-2017, 06:57 PM

It's been some time since I posted but I have been working; mainly on the interior which must be done before I design the back structure. So from where we left off I had just made the Command deck balcony so here is the forward bulkhead complete with blast doors, and pocket passage doors to the cockpit.

https://i.imgur.com/20QX1Yb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/20QX1Ybl.jpg

This design is a copy of the Warlord Blast door assembly slightly enlarged and more functional plus I had a lot more room to work with so the design is more refined.

https://i.imgur.com/SvqDEBx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SvqDEBxl.jpg

It's amazing how much more roomy this Emperor is compared to the Warlord.

https://i.imgur.com/rbmgnaF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rbmgnaFl.jpg

Blackadder

12-26-2017, 02:37 PM

Head and Neck Passage Assembly

The Emperor Titan head and neck passage assembly basically accomplished and ready to install as a component although the detailing is far from completed.

https://i.imgur.com/2nbtjON.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2nbtjONl.jpg

Overall shot of assembly

https://i.imgur.com/9tMzz90.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9tMzz90l.jpg

Interior Bulkhead looking toward passage way to Cockpit.

https://i.imgur.com/0alziBR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0alziBRl.jpg

Neck installed into forward panel; visor and helmet removed for clarity.

https://i.imgur.com/dWr7z0N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dWr7z0Nl.jpg

Interior view of passage to Cockpit from Command Deck Upper Gallery.

https://i.imgur.com/rZ1csGC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rZ1csGCl.jpg

Blackadder

12-30-2017, 08:35 AM

Plan Ahea
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Horrors, I ran out of CoD Manufactorum Bitz.

I have become accustomed to accessing my CoD bitz box for whatever details I need so it came as a great surprise last evening when I found I had exhausted the larder.

Fortunately ebay had a kit at a reasonable price and it will be delivered next month on the fifth. Whew!

https://i.imgur.com/YdZ1rf5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YdZ1rf5l.jpg

Meanwhile I have plenty to occupy my time working around the omission.

Blackadder

01-05-2018, 03:25 PM

Well enough procrastinating, it's a dirty job but I must address it. The rear of the Titan has to be interlocking with somewhat hidden seams but also allow the decks to be drawn out easily to view the interior. Yet the whole thing must be pinned together so the deck don't fall out when handled.

it's going to be hard to see these pieces in place so here they are unassembled.

https://i.imgur.com/q2gvkMS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q2gvkMSl.jpg

Assembled and in place rear view

https://i.imgur.com/E3VjA8p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E3VjA8pl.jpg

and side view.

https://i.imgur.com/jIzZ6Cw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jIzZ6Cwl.jpg

Gluing them on as I type.

Blackadder

01-09-2018, 02:03 PM

Wanna See Everybody From Behind

So the first step of building the back elevation is roughed out and two more decks to go.

https://i.imgur.com/E2WkIJj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E2WkIJjl.jpg

I've no idea what these compartments do. I do know there are louvered exhaust ports on either side of the center structure.

https://i.imgur.com/oYYjkKf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oYYjkKfl.jpg

Interior detail is lining up satisfactorily.

https://i.imgur.com/YJGLJyo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YJGLJyol.jpg

Blackadder

01-11-2018, 07:46 PM

In A Rears

The rear panels are finally underway and the coordination with the interior is satisfactory. Everything is lining up as if it were planned.

https://i.imgur.com/ccQ0A0b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ccQ0A0bl.jpg

The two side chambers have their reinforcing floors and ceilings

https://i.imgur.com/77LMP9x.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/77LMP9xl.jpg

Next up, the engineering compart rear wall and the completion of the pelvic /hip plate

https://i.imgur.com/lYJUbHf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lYJUbHfl.jpg

Blackadder

01-16-2018, 05:44 PM

Problem:

When I built this Titan I raised the head off the Promenade deck because it looked too close and the function of the head to 'look' down was impeded.

https://i.imgur.com/CJWsRHP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CJWsRHPl.jpg

The artist had no such problem because he had the flexibility of adjusting the position of the head to suit his whim

https://i.imgur.com/RPAbOUs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RPAbOUsl.jpg

but in the real world that option is not available to me

https://i.imgur.com/pZBtXrt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pZBtXrtl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2PDAbIv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2PDAbIvl.jpg

So now I am in the position of filling 4 inches of space with extemporaneous Titan gobbledygook to fill this void :D

https://i.imgur.com/gALaVKP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gALaVKPl.jpg

Such is the pitfalls of scratch building without a plan. :D

Blackadder

01-18-2018, 12:18 PM

Rear Heat Exchanger and Exhaust Ports:

The waffle styrene panels are proving their worth.

https://i.imgur.com/myADBwI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/myADBwIl.jpg

The constructions I make are far more easy to build, stable, and true to square without having to resort to extreme measures in fabricating.

https://i.imgur.com/fHIE3GJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fHIE3GJl.jpg

These two shots of the assembly on the desk and mounted on the model demonstrate the durability of the construction.....

https://i.imgur.com/zrfZ33d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zrfZ33dl.jpg

Whereas before it resembled a house of cards.

https://i.imgur.com/ZCDY7Bo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZCDY7Bol.jpg

Blackadder

01-19-2018, 02:27 PM

Thar's Gold In Them Thar Hills...........

Of recyclable trash that is.

I struck paydirt last month when I saw this discarded tv. Readymade Static louvers says I for my Emperor Titan.

https://i.imgur.com/yXTmFgM.jpg

All that needs be done is cut them out and install them.

https://i.imgur.com/slKIyuF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/slKIyuFl.jpg

It's worth a shot...........

Blackadder

01-20-2018, 07:51 AM

Heat Exchangers Sheathed:

They look a tad large but I'm hoping once the rest of the stern/back whatever is made they will blend in.

https://i.imgur.com/GhLBwMK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GhLBwMKl.jpg

I was too conservative in my estimate of the size of the rear deck but no matter I can spline on an addition.

https://i.imgur.com/d5ILOFA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/d5ILOFAl.jpg

Now for the side intakes.

Blackadder

01-25-2018, 09:47 PM

The Basic Structure:

Is pretty much delineated. Now it just remains to fill the void left by raising the superstructure platform about four inches.I already have ideas about adding another deck to the interior and with access to the rear of the titan in the mode of the FW Warlord That should fill the space nicely.

https://i.imgur.com/mu1o5UN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mu1o5UNl.jpg

I spent the past couple of days building another pair of Aquilae for the rear portion of the Cathedral platform just because it's there.

https://i.imgur.com/1M68If6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1M68If6l.jpg

The rear panel was quite an effort to design especially so the whole thing can be disassembled readily.

https://i.imgur.com/EOYSz7z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EOYSz7zl.jpg

Right now it just hangs on the back by friction but eventually it will have locks to hold it to the main structure.

https://i.imgur.com/vgbEHwo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vgbEHwol.jpg

Amazingly it's less than a millimeter off symmetry wise.

Blackadder

01-26-2018, 09:48 AM

Coming Together:

In a burst of optimism I have a feeling that this is somehow coming together.

https://i.imgur.com/nfo05eH.jpg[
https://i.imgur.com/nfo05eHl.jpg

In this 360° panorama you can get an idea of the magnitude of this construction

https://i.imgur.com/bGrP0MV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bGrP0MVl.jpg

Awright so a few images are missing but you get the idea.

https://i.imgur.com/b0uKOsE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/b0uKOsEl.jpg

Blackadder

01-27-2018, 12:12 PM

She's Got Legs

Well she's gonna have legs but we have to start with a single step (Groan!)

First the basics.... The Greaves

https://i.imgur.com/4gfzf1Q.jpg

I'm using a 3D image provided by joazzz2 on Deviant art for my inspiration

One of the problems with the representation of many Imperial Titans I notice, especially those that CoD for detailing bitz, is the panels are not truncated. This causes a boxy square look that is æsthetically unpleasing.

https://i.imgur.com/ogerbBt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ogerbBtl.jpg

So to begin with we are going to sneak up on the correct angle incrementally.....

https://i.imgur.com/DcZU4mk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DcZU4mkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/B3LNxN5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/B3LNxN5l.jpg

I'm only going to do one this time in case this doesn't work out.

Blackadder

01-29-2018, 03:19 PM

You've gotta get these grids

If you're gonna build an Imperator.

These are a godsend for this type of construction.

https://i.imgur.com/JoaSwcP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JoaSwcPl.jpg

Tipping the greave to match the 3D image brings home what this skeletal structure will eventually become.

https://i.imgur.com/dQWAmgw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dQWAmgwl.jpg

I just hope they are not too big or too small

the Goldilocks conundrum......... :D

https://i.imgur.com/yQQJiUN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yQQJiUNl.jpg

Image taken earlier today leaves me a bit up in the air regarding proper sizing. Then I thought too small. but they've become so massive.

Blackadder

01-30-2018, 02:29 PM

We might be talking over a meter and a third tall when finished.

I've already played around with the greaves quite a bit combining the best features and adding modifications I deemed necessary (But nothing is etched in stone I hasten to add.)

https://i.imgur.com/CblbgPo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CblbgPol.jpg

First I do not hold with the Space Marines rattling around in the greaves trying to stand on a shifting floor with every step the Titan takes plus when the model is static say on a shelf I plan to display him in the classic Emperor pose with legs slightly spread, greaves at an angle to the ground/shelf for maximum stability.

https://i.imgur.com/e1ZsFfj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/e1ZsFfjl.jpg

A pose I'm sure a working Emperor would take when firing at an enemy. When you speak of Infantry I presume you mean Space Marines.... I'm not up on Titan lore but I was under the impression that they transported armoured combatants (?)

https://i.imgur.com/VD6NAQg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VD6NAQgl.jpg

I plan to have my Marines held in place with harnesses as in the 'Drop Pod' model which would be the only way they could survive the walking jostling.

https://i.imgur.com/bXAM7gb.jpg

Once the Marines prepare to disembark the Titan can assume a stance that is more conducive to discharging the personnel.

I've always felt the main body of the Emperor titan held all the business end of the of the vehicle; Command deck, Engineering, Reactors, Machinery.

The top hamper being reserved the worship of the Machine God Omnissiah or Deus Mechanicus the supernatural entity worshipped by the Tech-priests and other servants of the Adeptus Mechanicus as the embodiment and bestower of all knowledge and technology in the universe.

Other than the manufacture of the deck I've done little in planning the superstructure which will be a project almost as big as what has already been done. I do have a Skitarii crew and tech priests and Belisarius Cawl to inhabit the deck once completed but all that is far off even in the planning stage. :D

Right now I have the model sitting on the floor of my den. Even without legs it's two feet tall and I'm wondering what to do with it when it's done. We might be talking over a meter and a third tall when finished.

Blackadder

02-05-2018, 01:14 PM

Mistakes Were Maid

Fortunately the materials are relatively inexpensive and much of the material was salvageable.

https://i.imgur.com/omRVt7P.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/omRVt7Pl.jpg

My perception of the bulk of the greaves was seriously flawed and until I started on the second level structure was this apparent. The corner spires were too bulky and would have necessitated cutting down the central second level structure making the flying buttresses too small as well and perhaps unworkable. The biggest flaw was my persistent insistence on using the Sanctum Imperialis beautiful double doors as a focal point of the greaves This may or may not be workable......

https://i.imgur.com/OIYJP0m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OIYJP0ml.jpg

Anyway I'm back on track with a minimum of hand-wringing and downtime. I frequently make errors taking the time to correct them is always a priority with me because good enough is Never Good Enough.

Blackadder

02-08-2018, 05:00 PM

The Beat Goes On:

Before I get too far ahead I should keep you all apprised of recent developments.

By the slow method of how I build some thoughts enter my mind as to how to make this Titan more interesting.

https://i.imgur.com/0kRs1V0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0kRs1V0l.jpg

It came to me that the front of the greaves is too bland and to add more interest I decided to recess the assault doors.

https://i.imgur.com/hbCx0xB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hbCx0xBl.jpg

I also began work on the top coppola, the area immediately below the knee, These greave may prove to be an interesting focal point of this titan.

https://i.imgur.com/O5JZJCr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/O5JZJCrl.jpg

While working I happened to glance a the seeming pile of rubble in the corner of my workshop. A sad array of unfinished Emperor Titan parts that bear little resemblance to what may prove to be my best effort to date.........

Blackadder

02-09-2018, 12:52 PM

Resting On One's Laurels:

Before I get too smug and self-satisfied I just repaired the interior of my Warlord. and I was surprised at the lengths my OCD drove me three or so years ago. As I contemplate doing an interior for my Emperor Titan I thought I'd refresh myself on my previous construction.

Over the years the glue had lost it's grip on the aluminum impregnated wall coatings I used for much of this model inside and out and pieces were rattling around inside. I found some two decks down in the Engineering bay.

Anyway once all put together I fired up the interior lighting (surprisingly it all functioned) and took these images so I don't have to disassemble it again until when and if I decide to upgrade the paint.

So here's five pictures of the Command deck and Tech Priest balcony replete with Altar to the Machine God, Omnissiah.

https://i.imgur.com/5UBXtI5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5UBXtI5l.jpg

Starting with the egress to the Command deck through the entry port.

https://i.imgur.com/HPVuC9K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HPVuC9Kl.jpg

I don't know if I've posted these or not other than in the construction phase. Most certainly not on Facebook or any of the new forums I frequent.

https://i.imgur.com/hoygzJW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hoygzJWl.jpg

The upper left Gallery and a view of the Altar

https://i.imgur.com/oUGghoP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oUGghoPl.jpg

and the right Gallery.......

https://i.imgur.com/A8Oame4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/A8Oame4l.jpg

I've gotta straighten that railing.............

Never mind the railing Blackadder; What about that bloody great hole in the deck?

Blackadder

02-11-2018, 06:01 AM

Time For A Proportion Check:

One of the hazards of working without a plan is you lead yourself down a primrose path only to find the portion you are working on does not fit with the rest of the project.

I have to estimate the height of the finished Emperor Titan and then figure out how tall each of the components need to be to give me a proper proportion.

I'm figuring the completed Emperor will now be a meter and a quarter tall since the lower legs fill the space between the feet and the hip. That leaves virtually no room for a thigh.

https://i.imgur.com/KcGi4jT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KcGi4jTl.jpg

As it stands right now without the superstructure it is 33 inches (0.8382 meter) tall. and it still needs about 6 inches of thigh length minimum even if I put the knee joint directly above the topmost section of the greave.

https://i.imgur.com/qhOstA3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qhOstA3l.jpg

Looks like a lot of people will be getting their wish that I should make it taller. Right now I'm figuring 240 scale feet (73.152 Scale Meters). 80 feet taller than the Warlord.

Blackadder

02-16-2018, 06:24 PM

33 Inches Tall:

RIght now it's standing about 33 Inches Tall without feet or superstructure.

https://i.imgur.com/x9bKa1w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/x9bKa1wl.jpg

The left leg is covered with the basic skin and the proportions look about right. I'm toying with the idea of having the egress on the inner side of the greaves where it would make more sense rather than the front plus it would lend itself better to have the troops exit the greaves under the full protection of the Titan guards until they are formed up as a full company. Plus the inner toes would incorporate the descending stairs to the ground leaving the front toes uncluttered with the steps.

Blackadder

02-18-2018, 06:06 PM

Where's Waldo:

So after this weekend's work I have little to show for it but if you follow this thread you may be able to pick out what has been done.

No fair cheating and referencing the previous text.

https://i.imgur.com/2rJeRD4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2rJeRD4l.jpg

I'm still wrestling with the egress of the troops from the greaves

https://i.imgur.com/RR657Ku.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RR657Kul.jpg

Logic would dictate they exit the rear. I've compromised and allowed for a inner thigh exit. to have them exit to the front piecemeal may appeal to the 40K genera but not to common sense. After all we're not exiting a one shot beach landing craft.

Blackadder

02-21-2018, 12:44 PM

Quite a Feet

As I estimate right now this is about the size of the foot print for this baby.

https://i.imgur.com/pfI5l2y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pfI5l2yl.jpg

Whereas the Warlord had baneblade size feet. This Emperor will have half again more

https://i.imgur.com/CMafvLo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CMafvLol.jpg

With the greave in place it seems I can trim the toes a tad but no hurry as I am now in the process of designing ankles.

https://i.imgur.com/47tgGJL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/47tgGJLl.jpg

Yeah, you read me right, ankles.

Blackadder

02-22-2018, 07:39 AM

I Cannot Help Myself:

It seems I am again in the situation where I cannot compromise this construction by taking short cuts.

Originally this thread was a tutorial on how to make a quick and gratifying Emperor Titan out of recycled plastic debris and GW bitz plus some plasticard. I expected to bring the thing in for about a hundred bucks American.

https://i.imgur.com/JC06rvC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JC06rvCl.jpg

Starting with the waffle lenses and a few items purchased on Amazon The project has now run into about twice as much which still isn't bad but far beyond what I hoped for.

In the series of images presented here is My solution to a problem that has vexed me since beginning; how am I to reconcile the leg joints? So here's my solution......

https://i.imgur.com/ClaHuT8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ClaHuT8l.jpg

A ball joint ankle. In the two images above I made a cup recess for a two inch wood drawer pull ( A design I made for my scratch built Warhound years ago) so who's to say, "You have to keep teaching an old dog the same old tricks."

https://i.imgur.com/oBFCt4n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oBFCt4nl.jpg

By carefully cutting out and stacking the waffle pieces and reinforcing them periodically I managed to build a close tolerance socket fit for the drawer pull knob. This will allow the foot to pivot front to back and side to side and any combination in between

https://i.imgur.com/mQNCTqT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mQNCTqTl.jpg

The upper part of the assembly captures the ball and with luck provide sufficient friction to keep the ball in position by clamping it in place. Otherwise I'll have to reinforce the cup with A4 epoxy resin as I did on the Warhound.

https://i.imgur.com/DeJ7lf1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DeJ7lf1l.jpg

Next, the shank.

Blackadder

02-22-2018, 10:54 AM

Anybody Know What This Is:

Gold is where you find it but from the moment I saw a couple of these in my neighbor's recycling I knew I would some day have a use for them. All along I was thinking some FW/GW futuristic Plasma weapon for a big Titan.

https://i.imgur.com/El7xQNq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/El7xQNql.jpg

But the unique and unusual design works well with my plans to build a troop transport greave interior right down to recesses for the huge actuators that stabilize the foot and the levels to hang the troopers shoulder harnesses when their being transported.

https://i.imgur.com/9nFLn7k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9nFLn7kl.jpg

So now the ball and socket may make more sense especially with the sleeve removed..........

https://i.imgur.com/uHF50bg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uHF50bgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8oXCttD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8oXCttDl.jpg

Blackadder

03-01-2018, 01:56 PM

Eight Set Of Toes:

Boring!

Producing eight identical toe sets was tedious in the extreme but at any rate they are done except for the detail of course.

https://i.imgur.com/4sHkM6R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4sHkM6Rl.jpg

I modified the side toes to be shorter than the front and rear toes for what I consider aesthetic purposes and I made the ramp a bit shallower than on the image as well again because I think it looks better.

https://i.imgur.com/GBKUHjH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GBKUHjHl.jpg

Another of the same image but I think it portrays the greave better than the one above so hell, I posted them both.

https://i.imgur.com/w7f4rYp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w7f4rYpl.jpg

And Damn; I forgot the obligatory Space Marine for scale.

Blackadder

03-03-2018, 07:05 PM

The Bottom of the foot pads:

The Movie Helsreach shows the bottom of the foot pads as a rather bland tread pattern.

https://i.imgur.com/NEfzlzl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NEfzlzll.jpg

So be it. I like it for it's simplicity.

https://i.imgur.com/FYk80zj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FYk80zjl.jpg

Blackadder

03-06-2018, 06:34 PM

I've been requested to provide Scale for the Emperor Titan. Unfortunately the legs are not attached to the pelvis, in point of fact the upper leg segment has yet to be designed. But one lower leg is avail so for reference we can compare it to a standard Space Marine Trooper and to a Warlord Titan that I just happen to have.....

https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmr.jpg[
https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmrl.jpg

One of these day I'm going to have to break out my green screen.

This next shot is from ground level

https://i.imgur.com/BvHyUA4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BvHyUA4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmrl.jpg

TTFN

Blackadder

03-09-2018, 03:02 PM

Legs Akimbo:

It's time to put my theories to the test. Yesterday began designing what I hope will be a movable leg system that will use friction locks to maintain the pose.

The PVC pipe couplings have "O" ring compression gaskets that will lock the upper thigh in place yet allow me to change the position in seconds.

https://i.imgur.com/xZLeTkM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xZLeTkMl.jpg

The Lower Thigh to knee joint will be trickier and require a screw driver compression joint the same as on my Warlord.

https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86ml.jpg

The biggest problem and one I just solved today in a fit of serendipity is how to make the legs sprawl out into the classic Titan pose.

https://i.imgur.com/iQn5Ci2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iQn5Ci2l.jpg

That will require a homemade gimbal assembly that I may have worked out in theory. It remains to be seen if the material is up to it.

Looking at these images I can just see my loyal readers cringing...........

I'm putting a lot of hope on flimsy styrene components. :D

Blackadder

03-11-2018, 02:21 PM

Curing a rainy day:

It's a far cry from this.....

https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86ml.jpg

to this.....

https://i.imgur.com/VUSn5xa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VUSn5xal.jpg

and even further to this.

https://i.imgur.com/lij9Cbi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lij9Cbil.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bpd8MlQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bpd8MlQl.jpg

It is my hope to have fully articulated legs on this beastie although I will not go to the effort I went to with my Warlord giving the legs a "Toe in" and "Toe Out" capability. That was much too much and although workable I have never employed that feature when posing my Warlord.

https://i.imgur.com/TxcnBfk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TxcnBfkl.jpg

Finally I can get a glimpse of what I have been working toward for these past few weeks; with the hip connect scaled to size, and the upper leg finally attached at the knee. I can now make some inroads towards an actual knee structure. I am now thinking of cutting the knee joint into the upper tier of the greave. which I believe will look much better.

Onward and Upward as they say...............

Blackadder

03-12-2018, 01:19 PM

OMG

https://i.imgur.com/wjMB0lQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wjMB0lQl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Oq4QNLP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Oq4QNLPl.jpg

Words Fail Me............

Blackadder

03-13-2018, 12:50 PM

Ha! Well I wanted to set up the model to see if the sizes were in scale but the upper torso was too heavy to suspend over the lower torso and legs. I instead Photo shopped a quick composite to present here. First the image of the torso and the legs and then the green screen composite. The legs right now are like a house of cards so mounting the body on them is not possible.

https://i.imgur.com/y09kMSG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y09kMSGl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pRzSZon.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pRzSZonl.jpg

As I said, the model thus far stands just over a meter tall (39.36 inches); a lot bigger than I had originally planned.

Blackadder

03-15-2018, 06:14 PM

Reinforce and Detail Legs:

Today I began to strengthen the legs with the Armour and detailed the corner spires...

https://i.imgur.com/Bl6BkMI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Bl6BkMIl.jpg

and ran out of plastic. Ha!

https://i.imgur.com/3cOzYYu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3cOzYYul.jpg

I'll have to make a run tomorrow.

Blackadder

03-20-2018, 11:10 AM

Stallmate

My local hobby supplier has let me down and I cannot get the large amount of strip styrene of a particular size I require. Normally I cut my own but even that did not produce enough.

https://i.imgur.com/bjzZa47.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bjzZa47l.jpg

But every setback has a silver lining as it forced me to work on detail I was putting off 'til later. Which ultimately was most gratifying.

It also relieved me of the tedious aspect of making eight of these constructs plus I am catching up on current Dinosaur theory.