KhornishGameHen
12-29-2014, 01:52 AM
Hello everyone! I really hope this was the right place to post this, but it seemed the most appropriate (my apologies if it is not, I'd be happy to move it somewhere that is better suited if there is one)!
I recently acquired a second-hand chaos army, and have been working at making them into a full-fledged battle-force. This however has led to three questions I am in need of answering, how to desecrate power armor, is my fluff up to snuff, and how can I achieve the paint-scheme style I desire?
Desecrating Power Armor:
The army so far is great, however many of the marines I received are normal tactical marines and not chaos. Other than adding some chaos-y bits/spikes/etc., what can I do to the power armor to make it look desecrated? I've heard this mentioned many times, but have never seen examples or guides. I attempted scratching/marking the Aquilas with a knife and it just looked ugly, and my one attempt to completely remove the Imperial symbols and smooth them over makes me question doing it again (it left a big empty space on the marine's chest, which when it was painted draws a lot of attention and looks it looks way too empty).
Does anyone have tips for desecrating the armor in a way which still leaves it appealing to look at?
Fluff:
I love 40K fluff, especially Chaos fluff, and have been devouring it since I got into the hobby in the last half a year or so, and due to this I really wanted to create my own Chaos Warband. I also fell in love with the White Scars background, so naturally I mixed the two things I liked into something new!
I created a Chaos Warband based around the story of Jagahtai Khan and his lost Warriors who went into the Webway to hunt the Dark Eldar, they went missing, so the fluff of my Warband is that they have now returned (the strange time-effects of the Webway mixed with Warp-antics corrupting them). Now that they have returned (with Jagahtai having split off from the main force and still remaining lost), they are disciples of Chaos Undivided and blame the Imperium for drawing them away from their homeworld when it was attacked in the first place. This initial hatred has warped further and further, leading them to worship what they now deem the most powerful forces in the universe, the Chaos gods. They view all of the Chaos Warbands like tribes and seek the unification of all Chaos together (despite the objections of some), being very evangelical and fanatical. They'll recruit just about anyone they can get their hands on, and accept all forms of Chaos worship which don't stand in their way.
To continue the tradition of the White Scars self mutilation, they now shove spikes into their armor to cause bleeding and incessant pain/scarring, which they believe hardens them and pleases the Gods. The most blessed of the marines have living spikes growing from their own bodies which accomplish this, and grow bigger the more blood they gorge on. The ultimately blessed (aside from Daemonhood of course) have their armor come alive and bleed with them, becoming a living carapace of reforming blood and gore. This bleeding stains their armor and marks the main bulk of the army. Cult Marines, such as Plague/Sound/etc. are not forced to do this, as it is said they honor the gods in their own ways.
Is this all ok Fluff-wise? I've been reading heavily into White Scars and the like and think I know what I'm doing, but I would hate to make an entire army based around this fluff only to find out I missed or forgot a detail which ruins the continuity of my army's backstory. I'm still new to 40K, and I just want to make sure I have my facts straight before diving head-first into a project.
Warband Symbol: http://i.gyazo.com/ec56f01251f829c8637d004090e2e60d.png
Warband Symbol (for banners/vehicles): http://i.gyazo.com/abd2523c696cd739cf662f7bb5388210.png
If anything seems wrong, could use some work, if something is lacking or doesn't make sense or the like, please tell me, critique is most definitely wanted!
Color Scheme:
Now... the fluff is the easy part, the hard part is the color-scheme... I like the idea of an altered version of the White Scar's colors (white, red, a little black and a little yellow), but to make it so the bleeding is a big part of the color-scheme. But I hear white is horrible to paint and work with... Am I getting way in over my head wanting to do an all white army, or is there a way around the difficulties white brings? How can one achieve the look of realistic bleeding?
I like the idea of the vehicles having living hulls perhaps, and bleeding when shot as well, being an alternate representation of Daemonic Possession.
Or would I be better going in a totally different painting direction? I like Iron Warriors style and wouldn't mind modifying it, but the steel coloration isn't always very eye catching and might not work well with the backstory for the Warband. I also tried creating a completely different style using red/purple/gold which was OK but not something I felt was really great (nor that fitting for the Warband once again).
Cultists, marines, vehicles and the like will all have this coloration, the only ones not receiving this would be cult marines.
Any suggestions in this department would be greatly appreciated, I love painting but the issue of a full out color-scheme is really causing me troubles and leading me to question this project altogether sadly. :(
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In conclusion, I apologize for the wall of text above! If you've actually read through the whole thing, thank you! If you plan on commenting, double thank you!
I recently acquired a second-hand chaos army, and have been working at making them into a full-fledged battle-force. This however has led to three questions I am in need of answering, how to desecrate power armor, is my fluff up to snuff, and how can I achieve the paint-scheme style I desire?
Desecrating Power Armor:
The army so far is great, however many of the marines I received are normal tactical marines and not chaos. Other than adding some chaos-y bits/spikes/etc., what can I do to the power armor to make it look desecrated? I've heard this mentioned many times, but have never seen examples or guides. I attempted scratching/marking the Aquilas with a knife and it just looked ugly, and my one attempt to completely remove the Imperial symbols and smooth them over makes me question doing it again (it left a big empty space on the marine's chest, which when it was painted draws a lot of attention and looks it looks way too empty).
Does anyone have tips for desecrating the armor in a way which still leaves it appealing to look at?
Fluff:
I love 40K fluff, especially Chaos fluff, and have been devouring it since I got into the hobby in the last half a year or so, and due to this I really wanted to create my own Chaos Warband. I also fell in love with the White Scars background, so naturally I mixed the two things I liked into something new!
I created a Chaos Warband based around the story of Jagahtai Khan and his lost Warriors who went into the Webway to hunt the Dark Eldar, they went missing, so the fluff of my Warband is that they have now returned (the strange time-effects of the Webway mixed with Warp-antics corrupting them). Now that they have returned (with Jagahtai having split off from the main force and still remaining lost), they are disciples of Chaos Undivided and blame the Imperium for drawing them away from their homeworld when it was attacked in the first place. This initial hatred has warped further and further, leading them to worship what they now deem the most powerful forces in the universe, the Chaos gods. They view all of the Chaos Warbands like tribes and seek the unification of all Chaos together (despite the objections of some), being very evangelical and fanatical. They'll recruit just about anyone they can get their hands on, and accept all forms of Chaos worship which don't stand in their way.
To continue the tradition of the White Scars self mutilation, they now shove spikes into their armor to cause bleeding and incessant pain/scarring, which they believe hardens them and pleases the Gods. The most blessed of the marines have living spikes growing from their own bodies which accomplish this, and grow bigger the more blood they gorge on. The ultimately blessed (aside from Daemonhood of course) have their armor come alive and bleed with them, becoming a living carapace of reforming blood and gore. This bleeding stains their armor and marks the main bulk of the army. Cult Marines, such as Plague/Sound/etc. are not forced to do this, as it is said they honor the gods in their own ways.
Is this all ok Fluff-wise? I've been reading heavily into White Scars and the like and think I know what I'm doing, but I would hate to make an entire army based around this fluff only to find out I missed or forgot a detail which ruins the continuity of my army's backstory. I'm still new to 40K, and I just want to make sure I have my facts straight before diving head-first into a project.
Warband Symbol: http://i.gyazo.com/ec56f01251f829c8637d004090e2e60d.png
Warband Symbol (for banners/vehicles): http://i.gyazo.com/abd2523c696cd739cf662f7bb5388210.png
If anything seems wrong, could use some work, if something is lacking or doesn't make sense or the like, please tell me, critique is most definitely wanted!
Color Scheme:
Now... the fluff is the easy part, the hard part is the color-scheme... I like the idea of an altered version of the White Scar's colors (white, red, a little black and a little yellow), but to make it so the bleeding is a big part of the color-scheme. But I hear white is horrible to paint and work with... Am I getting way in over my head wanting to do an all white army, or is there a way around the difficulties white brings? How can one achieve the look of realistic bleeding?
I like the idea of the vehicles having living hulls perhaps, and bleeding when shot as well, being an alternate representation of Daemonic Possession.
Or would I be better going in a totally different painting direction? I like Iron Warriors style and wouldn't mind modifying it, but the steel coloration isn't always very eye catching and might not work well with the backstory for the Warband. I also tried creating a completely different style using red/purple/gold which was OK but not something I felt was really great (nor that fitting for the Warband once again).
Cultists, marines, vehicles and the like will all have this coloration, the only ones not receiving this would be cult marines.
Any suggestions in this department would be greatly appreciated, I love painting but the issue of a full out color-scheme is really causing me troubles and leading me to question this project altogether sadly. :(
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In conclusion, I apologize for the wall of text above! If you've actually read through the whole thing, thank you! If you plan on commenting, double thank you!