40K End Times!

[Bigred]

It looks like the success of WFB's End Times has lit a fire under GW:

via Loken (http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2014/12/end-times-for-40k.html) 12-4-2014


End time for 40K is coming!

At the recent Black Library Weekender, some interesting things came up. The most significant of which was vastly overlooked. The End Times for 40K is coming. Remember that little bit in the 6th edition Rule book that said there was a flaw in the Golden Throne? Well, that little hint has grown into a full blown story line.

Graham McNeil said he had to got approval from the powers (probably due to the success of the End Times in Warhammer) to bring a similar story to 40K. And it will start with the Ultramarines.

He has to write Crimson King first, then Battle for Macragge a space marine battle novel, then on to...Guilliman. That is right, the Primarch of the Ultramarines is coming back! It will be part of the next Ultramarine story arc. He also said he is back for good, not just as a plot device to be put away when finished with.

Hmmmmm........

I for one, cannot wait to see most of the good guy Primarchs come back.

Loken

~I know Loken personally, and when he later says that the information is accurate and from GW - I believe him absolutely.

[Parcival]

If Roboute Guilliman is the first Primarch to return, can we safely assume that all loyal Space marines would rally under his command? I mean, he's a Primarch after all, even if he didn't belong to a Space Marine's very own Legion/Chapter.

[Mr Mystery]

Well, upon reading this article, my wallet collapsed into a singularity.

Barry, my chief experimental Hamster went through, and yes, yes it's confirmed, it's a stable cash flow wormhole straight into GW's bank account.

Sadly, it is one way.

Barry, you shall be remembered.

[Cutter]

Wowzer.

[eldargal]

Mehhhhhhhhhhhh.

[daboarder]

Please Gods of Chaos NO!

such a terrible idea

1) 40k is a SETTING

2) You are an idiot if you think said setting is full with a galaxy full of 10,000 years of history

3) Its ALREADY the end times unlike fantasy

[LostInTheDark]

It looks like the success of WFB's End Times has lit a fire under GW:

via Loken (http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2014/12/end-times-for-40k.html) 12-4-2014



~I know Loken personally, and when he later says that the information is accurate and from GW - I believe him absolutely.

So many possibilities for this in 40k, but Mr McNeill offered a different interpretation of that BL Weekender conversation.

http://graham-mcneill.com/#!/end-times-not-coming/

Link from Marshal_Loss in the comments section of Natfka's article.

http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/the-end-times-for-40k.html

[eldargal]

Oh thank god.

[daboarder]

So many possibilities for this in 40k, but Mr McNeill offered a different interpretation of that BL Weekender conversation.

http://graham-mcneill.com/#!/end-times-not-coming/

Link from Marshal_Loss in the comments section of Natfka's article.

HAHA awesome response

And indeed the response at all is something nice


edit: seriously, thats actual communication with the community right there, and something to be lauded in and of itself, well done Mr McNeil

[energongoodie]

At the 40k open day in the Summer, they said so, so, so, so many times that the 40k story line will not advance, that it will hang at 'a minute to midnight' and they will go back and explore more times between the heresy and 'now'.

I'd be up for this rumour to be correct but they were pretty solid in their defence of not continuing it.

p.s
Mystery, nice name for a Hamster :)

[Wolfshade]

Whilst 30k is progressing nicely there seems to be very little point in pushing 40k forwards in time, maybe when the Heresey is all wrapped up then it will be time to move forwards. maybe.

[Mr Mystery]

HAHA awesome response

And indeed the response at all is something nice


edit: seriously, thats actual communication with the community right there, and something to be lauded in and of itself, well done Mr McNeil

I'm not sure that's particularly cut and dry.....

Warhammer isn't Ending either. But we still have End Times.

[Defenestratus]

Thats really too bad that GW isn't willing to mix it up as an End Times 40k would. The whole universe/fluff/setting is starting to get a little stale.

[Denzark]

I don't see that Dee with all these campaigns and stuff out at the mo. Maybe its just too big and therefore you feel it needs big swingeing changes but personally I've never felt it to be less stale (blandness of some codexes aside.)

[Erik Setzer]

Thats really too bad that GW isn't willing to mix it up as an End Times 40k would. The whole universe/fluff/setting is starting to get a little stale.

How would you "mix it up" in a way that's meaningful and doesn't screw something up?

Really, at this point, if they let the natural progression of things advance, you basically end up with the galaxy being the stomping grounds for a showdown between the Tyranids and the Orks, with everyone else dying to those two races, and it's actually likely the Orks come out on top, because they would find it the best fight ever and just continuously grow in numbers and power until individual Orks are as big as a Carnifex and just laughing as they punch Hive Tyrants in the throat. And then you have a galaxy of Orks that just devolves into Orks fighting each other forever, unless the Old Ones come back, set off some "self-destruct," and then reboot the galaxy.

Sorry, but that's how it's been written. The Tyranids are said to be pretty much unstoppable with the Imperium, and Ghazghkull's jumping all around starting up massive wars that lead to Orks growing in number and power everywhere, with all of them eventually being under his command (so, unified, in a sense). It's pretty clearly stated that if all the Orks ever got together, in their current state, they'd be enough to wipe out everyone else. So if the Tyranids are doing part of that and the Orks are doing it... well, eventually no one else is left. Even the Chaos Gods would die off because Orks don't feed into them for the most part and Gork and Mork have always been more powerful (yep, established fluff, in Titan Legions there was a story where they tried to manipulate the Ork gods, who just brushed them off, and they decided to just follow behind them and relish in the emotions caused by the Orks).

You'd have to come up with some kind of serious deus ex machina, and sure, GW does that from time to time (hello Storm of Chaos!).

The alternate would involve stuff like bringing back the concept that the Emperor would die and be reborn, which would then cause the Imperium to be massively changed (the Inquisition would be in trouble, for one). You could theorize how those things go over time, but basically, you end up with a lot of the models out there being invalid, ditto for the rules, and, well, you don't do that kind of massive shake-up to your chief money-maker.

[jonsgot]

While we won't get to Midnight the seconds hand could move, it hard to see the Primarchs not returning once FW have done the models.

[Arkhan Land]

I think they're just ramping up how close we're supposed to be to the edge in the 40k universe, bringing in the primarchs will simply require some sort of balancing force to meet them, like some of the "evil" primarchs as demon princes (just a quick idea to throw out there). suddenly the great battle between the emperor and chaos will be just as far along as it was before roboute woke up