gwensdad
11-14-2014, 01:17 PM
So for a few months I’ve been trying to find time to get to use the local library’s 3D printers. I took a very basic class on how to use the tinkercad system and get stuff from thingiverse. So after a while I got to play around, printed out a marine bike (the rider didn’t work out)
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and then moved on to try a little costume piece (I have a rosarius now in case I can put a cosplay together)
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and decided I want to try fielding a Leman Russ Annihilator so I checked to see if maybe anyone had designed one (they hadn’t) but someone did have a blank turret under a creative commons license that I could modify. I then found a “not a dreadnought” lascannon assembly that was easily rescaled to fit it, then a few other odds and ends and I had a workable, printable in under 3 hours, turret (just add Russ body). Just needed a little sanding, then primed and painted (note: I am not a pro painter, not the greatest, etc)
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So anyway I saw an article on BoLS about 3D printing and I put my comments up on it and noticed an hour later, my comments were gone. Weird how that was. Then I listened to the latest podcast from the BoLS crew and had a few points I wished to make.
"but it looks bad" - some 3D printed stuff does look horrible. There are many models out there that really are not well done but they are done by amateurs so they can’t be expected to be perfect. And I have yet to see a good 28mm character model but vehicles are just fine if people remember to print in better than .3mm resolution (all of the above were in .2mm) and sand the ridges that you see. I’ve seen many MANY 3D prints where it looks like there was no post-cleaning of the model and it went straight to paint (sometimes I wonder if primer was used too-EECK!) when like any mini, there is some cleaning to be done. Just think of it as removing mold lines-it needs done and when you smooth it out even a little it looks way better.
"It’s not GW official" or variant argument - Have you used or willingly played against someone using a proxy? Or using 3rd party bitz or conversion pieces? Would you feel the same way about 3D printing if it were just being used for generic bitz or would you really be offended by it? What if I went to a 3D design program, printed a combi-weapon or custom shoulder pads, then cast it and made many copies in resin and sold them just like 3rd party companies do? Is printing my own so different?
The day printers get into the .05 resolution range and become affordable in the household things are going to change in the gaming industry to where miniature sales as we know it will be completely altered. I actually look forward to the day when I could spend $100 on a license to print as many of 1 model (say, a single space marine) as I want and I think someday that’s how things will be. For now, it’s still an experimental hobbyist realm for people to play in but given time it will be the future in nearly every home.
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Not pictured: The Warhound I printed the head of but need to get back to printing the rest of. This could take a really long time.
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and then moved on to try a little costume piece (I have a rosarius now in case I can put a cosplay together)
11787
and decided I want to try fielding a Leman Russ Annihilator so I checked to see if maybe anyone had designed one (they hadn’t) but someone did have a blank turret under a creative commons license that I could modify. I then found a “not a dreadnought” lascannon assembly that was easily rescaled to fit it, then a few other odds and ends and I had a workable, printable in under 3 hours, turret (just add Russ body). Just needed a little sanding, then primed and painted (note: I am not a pro painter, not the greatest, etc)
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So anyway I saw an article on BoLS about 3D printing and I put my comments up on it and noticed an hour later, my comments were gone. Weird how that was. Then I listened to the latest podcast from the BoLS crew and had a few points I wished to make.
"but it looks bad" - some 3D printed stuff does look horrible. There are many models out there that really are not well done but they are done by amateurs so they can’t be expected to be perfect. And I have yet to see a good 28mm character model but vehicles are just fine if people remember to print in better than .3mm resolution (all of the above were in .2mm) and sand the ridges that you see. I’ve seen many MANY 3D prints where it looks like there was no post-cleaning of the model and it went straight to paint (sometimes I wonder if primer was used too-EECK!) when like any mini, there is some cleaning to be done. Just think of it as removing mold lines-it needs done and when you smooth it out even a little it looks way better.
"It’s not GW official" or variant argument - Have you used or willingly played against someone using a proxy? Or using 3rd party bitz or conversion pieces? Would you feel the same way about 3D printing if it were just being used for generic bitz or would you really be offended by it? What if I went to a 3D design program, printed a combi-weapon or custom shoulder pads, then cast it and made many copies in resin and sold them just like 3rd party companies do? Is printing my own so different?
The day printers get into the .05 resolution range and become affordable in the household things are going to change in the gaming industry to where miniature sales as we know it will be completely altered. I actually look forward to the day when I could spend $100 on a license to print as many of 1 model (say, a single space marine) as I want and I think someday that’s how things will be. For now, it’s still an experimental hobbyist realm for people to play in but given time it will be the future in nearly every home.
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Not pictured: The Warhound I printed the head of but need to get back to printing the rest of. This could take a really long time.