Kabalite Web Strike

[Houghten]

Until quite recently, one of my favourite Apocalypse Formations was the Kabalite Web Strike, a bunch of Raider-borne raiders who burst out of an Arterial Webway Portal, which functions in the same way as an activated Webway Portal except that it uses the large blast marker and may be used by vehicles.

Given the way that Webway Portals work in the 7th Edition codex... how the hell would you interpret this now? Is there any point in even trying to do so?

[Badtucker]

Ok here goes,

how about placing down the large template on the table ( if i recall you roll to scatter such things) then after that place all raiders within 12 (normal movement max of such vehicles) of the template as if they had 7th ed webway portals (so no scattering) done.
sound good ?

[Charon]

Why do you want to interpret any rules?
The rules are quite specific and do not reference to the Codex WWP. Use it as the rules in the Apoc book say.
You have exact rules what marker to use, how to place it and how it is handeled.

[John Bower]

Why do you want to interpret any rules?
The rules are quite specific and do not reference to the Codex WWP. Use it as the rules in the Apoc book say.
You have exact rules what marker to use, how to place it and how it is handeled.

Exactly, and if GW wish to FAQ that they will.

[Houghten]

The rules are quite specific and do not reference to the Codex WWP.
Really. Could you tell me what "an activated Webway portal" does without referring to the Codex?

[Charon]

Really. Could you tell me what "an activated Webway portal" does without referring to the Codex?


Full Rules from the Apoc book:


When deploying fortifications at the start of the battle, you must set up an Arterial
Webway Portal. The Arterial Webway Portal functions in exactly the same way as an
activated Webway Portal (see below), except that it uses the large blast marker and can
be used by vehicles. It may be placed anywhere on the table outside of the opposing
side's deployment zone.

If you look below, you find:


WEBWAY PORTAL
This is a portable form of the portals used to link together places via the webway. Once
per game, in your Shooting phase, a model with a webway portal may choose to
activate it instead of firing. Place a small blast marker or similarly sized counter in
base contact with the bearer, and not within 2" of an enemy model or another webway
portal, when he activates the portal. He may not activate the portal whilst inside a
vehicle. From then on, any of your units arriving from reserve amy move onto the
board from the portal marker's edge instead of entering as normal (it does not matter
whether these units were intending to Deep Strike, Outflank, simply move on from
their own table edge, and so on). The portal counts as impassable terrain and cannot
be destroyed. After activation, the model that had the portal may freely move away,
leaving the portal in place. If you have a webway portal in your army, you may keep
units in reserve, regardless of the mission being played. Vehicles may not enter play
via a webway portal.


So at which point you need the codex?

[Houghten]

...the heck?

I don't have the "see below" part in either my regular or Collector's editions of Apocalypse. How do you?

[Charon]

Digital.
Always go digital.

[Houghten]

FFS. I'm not buying a third copy.

[Archon Charybdis]

FFS. I'm not buying a third copy.

Is your group really so unreasonable they wouldn't play it with the original rules, even if the alternative is it's unworkable? I mean it's not like the Web Strike formation was unbalanced, or that continuing to use it as it was would break the game with the new *ahem* improved book.

[John Bower]

Really. Could you tell me what "an activated Webway portal" does without referring to the Codex?

But that's kind of why you have a Codex for your army....

[Charon]

But that's kind of why you have a Codex for your army....

Please read the whole Thread and make sure you understand the problem.

Webway Portal changed from 5th Ed Codex to current Codex massively (from a Blast template where your stuff comes out of reserve to deepstrike the model/unit with WWP without scattering).
The Formation refers to the old WWP, the new one would create some massive issues. Digital refers to the old WWP too, physical publications do not.

[John Bower]

good point, I forgot that bit.... OOps.