Stormbird Transport

[Eberk]

Is there any mention in any publication somewhere about Stormbirds transporting tanks and Walkers ? (Rhino, Vindicator, Predator, Forgefiend, Helbrute for example)

Their load is around 60-100 space Marines so I guess it should be possible but I would like some ("official") written confirmation.

Thanks

[Katharon]

Is there any mention in any publication somewhere about Stormbirds transporting tanks and Walkers ? (Rhino, Vindicator, Predator, Forgefiend, Helbrute for example)

Their load is around 60-100 space Marines so I guess it should be possible but I would like some ("official") written confirmation.

Thanks

It's never been explicitly stated in the fluff, but considering that there are version of the Thunderhawk that allow it to carry upwards of two Land Raiders, then it's understood to also mean that there are Stormbirds that were also dedicated to carrying vehicles.

Also, a stormbird's capacity is 50 marines -- not 60-100.

[completeHook]

Had a bit of a nose around and found these, hope it is of some help

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[Eberk]

Had a bit of a nose around and found these, hope it is of some help
Wow ! Where did you find that datasheet/ruleset ? It looks like it comes from a GW publication but which one ?

Thanks for that, that was what I needed to know (although I am shocked to find out that 2 baneblades fit inside a single stormbird, that seems a little bit to much)

[completeHook]

I found it through a Google image search, on a blog here;

http://darogscompany.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/stormbird-gunship.html (http://darogscompany.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/stormbird-gunship.html)

From date the data sheet is most likely from 1st edition Apocalypse, so it's out of date but it gives you something to work from.

[Katharon]

I totally forgot that they'd made a data sheet for the Stormbird. I'm totally going to have to convert it over to 7th edition. New project, here I come!

[Eberk]

I never even knew there was a data sheet for the Stormbird. Must be a single one released on the site that I missed. Anyway, glad to have it know.

Transport Capacity - 100 but with Rhino counts as 25, Land Raiders as 50 and Baneblades as 100 it seems more realistic.

Don't forget to post you updated datasheet here :)

[Katharon]

Don't forget to post you updated datasheet here :)

I decided to edit it quite a bit more than I had originally planned. My eyes are still twitching over the fact that I don't have the font to match the datasheet's original font, so you can see quite clearly in those places here I edited. I also decided that some of it didn't make sense -- to the point where I think that this datasheet was itself a homebrew at one point. So I cleaned it up, clarified some of the mistakes made, and removed the more ridiculous parts.

Here she is all her glory:

7th Edition Edited Stormbird (http://oi58.tinypic.com/2z5kmzt.jpg)


I should also note that there are still 1st Founding and 2nd Founding space marine chapters that still maintain relics such as the stormbird. The only problem is that they only have a handful each and rarely, if ever, use them due to their great age and the significance of the fact that they were used when the chapters were still legions.

[Katharon]

No comments?

[Gir]

It's a bit expensive, as at that price I would rather take 2 Thunderhawks with change.

Also the ruling for Assault marine and terminator transport capacities are pointless as the bulky rules cover these.

[Eberk]

No comments?
Yes, yes... but you've got to give us some time, BoLS is not my full-time occupation you know :p ;)

I don't know about it being overpriced, seems a fair price to me. (but I haven't compared it to thunderhawks and other flyers yet)

What I still think is that 6 Rhinos, 4 Land Raiders or 2 Baneblades is to much cargo for a single flyer. 4 Rhinos, 2 Land Raiders or a single Baneblade would be more appropriate I think.
Image a model that can house 2 Baneblades. It would need a lot more Hull points and a larger single model capacity.

[Katharon]

It's a bit expensive, as at that price I would rather take 2 Thunderhawks with change.

Also the ruling for Assault marine and terminator transport capacities are pointless as the bulky rules cover these.

It's capable of carrying up to ten different assault or tactical Marine units and deploying them all at once -- and assault from it on the same turn that they got out. I'd say it's priced exactly where it needs to be. The number of combinations of the different units that you can pop into this thing is ridiculously hilarious and borders on the insane. Also, the sheer amount of firepower it can pump out, all at different targets because it's a super-heavy, make it righteously awesome at being either anti-vehicle, anti-horde, or anti-everything-in-general.

I added the references for the Assault Marines and Terminator Transport capacities so that it would fit with the theme of the datasheet itself (ie, the transports, tanks, Baneblades, etc). So yeah, you can make a reference to it being superfluous or you can sit back and just ignore what really doesn't hurt anyone.




Yes, yes... but you've got to give us some time, BoLS is not my full-time occupation you know :p ;)

LIES! HERESY! *BLAM*



I don't know about it being overpriced, seems a fair price to me. (but I haven't compared it to thunderhawks and other flyers yet)

Thunderhawk is somewhere around 680 points base.


What I still think is that 6 Rhinos, 4 Land Raiders or 2 Baneblades is too much cargo for a single flyer. 4 Rhinos, 2 Land Raiders or a single Baneblade would be more appropriate I think.
Image a model that can house 2 Baneblades. It would need a lot more Hull points and a larger single model capacity.

It's larger than a Thunderhawk. A Thunderhawk can carry 2 Land Raiders. So...yeah....

It has the appropriate number of Hull Points to coincide with the old structure point model: 3 Hull Points for each Structure Point it use to have. It's a super-heavy flyer with a 4+ invulnerable save for crying out loud!

[Eberk]

It's larger than a Thunderhawk. A Thunderhawk can carry 2 Land Raiders. So...yeah....
You sure about that ?

In which publication can I find that ? (I only find a Thunderhawk Transporter that can carry 2 Rhinos or a single Land Raider)

[Katharon]

You sure about that ?

In which publication can I find that ? (I only find a Thunderhawk Transporter that can carry 2 Rhinos or a single Land Raider)

Nevermind, I was remembering the image of the two Rhinos being carried and vague memory made them out to be Land Raiders. Either way, the Stormbird is just that much of a better and more powerful super-heavy flyer in various respects.

[Bigred]

I'm pretty sure that is a fan-made apoc datafax.

If you remember back in the day GW put out a generic blank Apoc datafax shoot and encouraged folks to make stuff up.

The Stormbird sheet has atrocious descriptive text, and mismatched fonts all over the place that GW never used. Nice model though.

[hisdudeness]

You also have to think of weight..no just size of the things being carried. A super heavy carrying two super heavy tanks? I would have some sort of down side if two Baneblade sized tanks are carried.