Space Wolves Rumor Roundup

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Initial Rumors 7-5-2014

Space Wolves are coming after Orks - Summer

Space Wolves Featuring in Sanctus Reach Volume 2: Stormclaw

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First pass SW rumors: 7-6-2014


Lords of War: Logan & Bjorn
New big kit for SWs is a "Legendary Fenrisian Monster and handler(s)"
All other SW releases will be plastic reworks of existing Finecast, or very old plastics.
Rumor Reliabiliy: Medium-Low


2nd pass SW rumors: 7-7-2014

- Space Wolves move into the "modern age" with access many of the new Astartes kits and toys:
- The Hunter / Stalker is in
- The Stormraven is in
- The Stormtalon is out...
- Canis goes the way of the Dodo...

Rumor Reliability: Medium-Low

via Skullchewer / MexicanOrk (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf): 7-7-2014


Allegedly the contents of Stormclaw are:
40k 7th Edition mini-rulebook (only in english)
Campaign book with Battle for Blistered Isle and first part of Battle for Alaric Prime, 32 pages.

Orks:
Grukk Face-Rippa
5 Nobz
10 Grots
1 Runtherd
3 Killa Kanz

Space Wolves:
Krom Dragongaze
5 Wolf Guards
5 Grey Hunters
5 Blood Claws

Limited Edition
100€

€100 = approximately £80
Orks
Grukk (Warboss) £15 (Closest match)
5 Nobz £15 for 5 and a grot, currently
10 Grots and a Runtherd £10
3 Kans £28
Space Wolves
Krom Dragongaze (Term armour HQ) £15
5 Wolf Guard (Currently £23 for 10) £11.50
5 Grey Hunters Currently £23 for 10)£11.50
5 Blood Claws (Currently £23 for 10) £11.50

Mini rule book... say £20
Campaign book. another £20?
£157.50

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via La Taberna De Laurana (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/2014/07/rumores-se-desvelan-mas-imagenes-de-la.html) 7-7-2014

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via Voice of the Chaos Gods (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/U7NGdO9wOhU/space-wolf-releases.html) 7-15-2014

Plastic models for the Sons of Fenris

-Wolf Lord in Terminator Armor / Lorgan Grimnar
-Wolf Lord / Ragnar Blackmane
-Wolf Priest / Ulrik
-Iron Priest with Thralls Box
-Rune Warriors with Rune Priest / Wolf Guard Box

via one of Gary's birds (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/lkTV_kNFF1I/space-wolf-new-box-sets-along-with-codex.html): 7-16-2014

Combo kits to accompany Codex Space Wolves:


-Sky Claw Pack - 5 Marines with Jump Pack
1x Space Wolves sprue, 1x old Assault Marine Jumppack sprue

-Long Fang Pack - 5 Marines and Razorback
1x Space Wolves sprue, 1x Devastator Weapon sprue, 1x Razorback & Rhino sprues

-Retinue of the Wolf Priest - 1x Wolf Priest, 10x Wolf Guard
1x Wolf Priest sprue, 2x Space Wolves sprues, 1x Space Marine Command Squad sprue

-Ragnars Great Company - 1x Wolf Lord, 5x Terminators, 20x Grey Hunters / Blood Claws, 3x Drop Pod
1x Wolf Lord sprue, 1x Space Wolves Terminator sprue, 4x Space Wolves sprues, 3x Drop Pod sprues

via The Mexican Ork (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf) 7-17-2014


StormClaw Unboxing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLfO88hVSs&feature=youtu.be

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via The Mexican Ork (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf) 7-17-2014

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via Voice of the Chaos Gods (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/a6Z6f3Z_-g4/space-wolves-codex-info.html) 7-18-2014

Space Wolves Codex Info:


Sagas
They are now Warlord Traits like other armies with the difference that you can choose them without to roll dices

HQ Units
Like 3rd Edition; One HQ per 750p

Logan Grimnar
Lord of War, may take Two Warlord Traits, make Wolf Guard Packs to troops

Ragnar Blackmane
When all Units in the detachment take Drop Pods as dedicated Transport, Ragnar will be free. Your Army may only take Unites with an Drop Pod option.

Canis Wolfborn
No longer in the Codex

Harald Deathwolf
New Character, replace the generic Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf, make Thunderwolf Cavalry to Troops

Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Now a Lord of War, becomes "it will not die". When Bjorn is destroyed every Space Wolves Unit within 12" becomes furious charge, fearless and hate the unit, charakter or vehicle that destroyed him

Wolf Guard
Pack Leaders are now entries in the Units like Squad Leaders in other Armies. Still no teleport for Terminators

Grey Hunters
Close Combat Weapons are now a option that replace the Bolter, 5p cheaper

Blood Claws
3p cheaper

Long Fangs
Can't take Rhinos as dedicaded Transports


via one of Gary's anonymous birds (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/hYSOpfgUNz4/space-wolves-are-here-new-flyers.html) 7-19-2014:


Space Wolf Flyer
It will come in 2 versions:
First - 215 points
One - assault transport with TL hell frost cannon
Two fire modes:
- s6 ap3, blast, then it forces a Str test. If the test is failed, the enemy dies
- s8 ap1 , heavy 1 - rest is the same
16 models capacity
Heavy Bolters with MMelta or Skyhammer Option
Second: 220 points
6 models capacity
Hell frost cannon (the same as above)
Storm Strike missile
Both flyers have Machine Spirit and Ceramite plating.

The model will cost as much as a storm raven...

...The Stormfang Gunship has the look of half of a Caestus Assault Ram, and is on the cover of next week's White Dwarf. The previous rumors really list out its abilities well. It comes with a Helfrost Destructor, two twin-linked heavy bolters, two stormstrike missiles and ceramite plating, with power of the machine spirit.

Heavy bolter upgrades to skyhammer missile launcher or two twin linked multi-meltas
stormstrike missiles can be upgraded to a twin linked lascannon.

Helfrost Destructor
Dispersed 24" S6 AP3 Hvy1, Helfrost, Large Blast
Focused 24" S8 AP1, Hvy1, Helfrost, Lance

Stormstrike Missile 72" S8 AP2 hvy1 Concussive one shot only



Latest on a Space Wolves flyer:

Little Bird (http://http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397586-Codex-Space-Wolves-to-be-released-soon!&p=7221713&viewfull=1#post7221713) says:
Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

I should really have said 'love-child of a Caestus Assault Ram and a Stormtalon'. That is a better description of the model's appearance.

via Games Workshop 7-21-2014

Space Wolves Pre-order starts 26th July.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5I52M-0B8

via La Taburna de Laurana (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/2014/07/rumores-aun-mas-datos-sobre-lobos.html) 7-21-2014

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images via Grot Orderly (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/2014/07/white-dwarf-26-przecieki-leaks.html) 7-21-2014

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In the day's most odd rumor, we get this from La Taberna De Laurana (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/) 7-22-2014

Original Spanish:

- Comenzamos con el nuevo correo que nos ha llegado ésta misma mañana, por parte de nuestras Fuentes Anónimas, confirmándonos las novedades, ahora sí que de manera definitiva, de la semana. Son éstas, e iban acompañadas del siguiente texto:

Aguardan en silencio el momento adecuado, cazadores implacables, astutos y taimados frenan a sus más impetuosos compañeros de afiladas zarpas como el acero. El gigantesco lobo que acompaña a su señor olfatea el ambiente, saboreando el olor del inminente bocado. No le sobrecoge el temor, nada tienen que hacer los invasores a los que se enfrentan, todo ha sido planeado. El aire frío en sus pulmones, la escarcha en su cabello y su aliento cobra vida en este gélido páramo mientras aguardan la señal. Suena el cuerno y como una ola rugiente aúllan alimentando el miedo en sus enemigos. Rápidos y letales, ansiosos de probar su valía se lanzan al combate ladera abajo. Rugen juntos como hermanos, luchan codo con codo y esta noche, vivan o mueran, festejarán la batalla a la que hoy se les ha llamado.

(Prepedidos 26 de Julio - Lanzamiento 2 de Agosto)

Translated English:

- We start with the new mail that has come to us this morning, by our Spanish sources, confirming the news, now that definitively, of the week. Those, and were accompanied by the following:

Quietly await the right time, relentless, cunning and crafty hunters to curb their impetuous fellow sharp claws like steel. The giant wolf who accompanies his master sniffs the air, savoring the smell of impending bite. No fear overwhelms you, have nothing to do with the invaders they face, everything has been planned. The cold air in your lungs, the frost in his hair and his breath comes to life in this frozen wasteland while awaiting the signal. The horn sounds and howl like a roaring wave feeding the fear in their enemies. Quick and lethal, eager to prove his worth to battle rush downhill. Rugen together as brothers fight side by side and tonight, live or die, will celebrate the battle that now have been called.

(Preorder July 26 - August 2 Release)

That's harder to unravel than the Gordian Knot...


Latest Space Wolves Rumor Releases: 7-23-2014


August 2nd: Stormwolf/StormFang Combo-kit
August 9th: Dreadnought/Bjorn Combo-kit (includes new "freeze/cold" cannon and DCCW weapons)
August 16th:
- WolfLord (Frost axe/pistol)
- IronPriest (Servo-harness w "freeze/cold" weapon, T-hammer, pistol)
August 23rd:
- Codex Space Wolves
- Artbook
August 24th:
- Long Fangs ("freeze/cold" cannons)
- Rune Priest (Termy, (helmet/bare heads) Force staff, SB)

Rumor reliability: Medium-Low, coming from both known and unknown sources

via Kirby at 3++ (http://www.3plusplus.net/2014/07/space-wolves-stromfang-stormwolf/) 7-21-2014


Grey Hunters are not cheaper, they are still 15/model.

They come with Bolter, Bolt Pistol, grenades, ATSKNF, Counter Attack and Acute Senses.

They can have one model upgraded to a Wolf Guard, for +10 points, who gets +1Ld/attack and access to wargear. (Same as veteran sergeants, except that if not taken, there isn't a “character” in the unit the way normal sergeants are).

They can take 1 special weapon, or 2 at 10 man. They are limited only to special weapons and not heavy as per normal. They pay the same points as space marines now, not a discount and not a free one at 10.

They can also take plasma pistols at 1 per 5 in addition to special weapons.

They can swap their bolter for a chainsword at no cost, on a model-by-model basis, and it specifies that it must also be represented on the model.

Wolf banners are still in, but aren't as good and cost 15 points not 10.

Bloodclaws are 13 points per model, minimum 5 up to 20. Similar as above for upgrades. Unlike what's in Stormclaw, if you upgrade a Bloodclaw to a Wolf Guard he gets +1 WS and BS (to take him to 4/4). They have rage now instead of their former +d3 attacks on the charge.

Wolf Guard terminators are now an entry, as are Wolf Guard non terminators, so no mixing and matching. No more pack leader separating of Wolf Guard to join other squads. Just upgrades in unit.

Logan Grimnar and Bjorn are Lords of War.

one of Gary's birds (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/wZmpHhgvcWU/space-wolf-codex-and-bjorn-and-next.html) says this is next week: 7-26-2014


-Bjorn
-New SW *Dreadnought w/ Rampage and Furious Charge. Ap2 talons with Shred.
-Codex Space Wolves

via Marneus Calgar & Voice of the Chaos gods 7-26-2014


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via LittleBird (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397904-Codex-Space-Wolves-Information&) 7-26-2014


General Information about Codex: Space Wolves
Sagas are out, replaced with Warlord Traits
6 new Space Wolves Tactical Objectives
New Space Wolves Psychic Discipline: Tempestas (Source didn't get any actual rules though)


'Space Wolves Unleashed' Detachment FOC:
Identical to standard FOC, except may take up to 6 HQs
May re-roll Warlord Traits
Each unit joined by an Independent Character rolls a d6, on a 6+ that unit gains Outflank. Troops choices get +2 on this roll.


Great Company Formation:
1 Wolf Lord
1 Wolf Guard Battle Leader
1 unit of Wolf Guard
5 units of Grey Hunters
1 unit of Wolf Scouts
5 units chosen from
2 units of Long Fangs
Grants two special rules, source did not get them


[B]Space Wolves Relics (Source didn't get rules, just name and type of item)
Armor of Russ (Armor)
Bite of Fenris (Bolter with two fire modes)
Black Death (Frost Axe, Rule: Whirldwind of Death)
Helm of Durfast (Wargear)
Fangsword of the Ice Wolf (Frost Sword)
Wulfenstone (Wargear)


Logan Grimnar - Lord of War - Points = Land Raider
Epic new model, comes with a sort of grav-chariot called 'Stormrider' pulled by two enormous Fenrisian wolves, but he can be used without it as well.
Stormrider
Treated as a vehicle, didn't get AVs, has a 4+ Invulnerable save and cannot suffer Penetrating hits (all Pens are reduced to Glances).
Gives Logan 4 S5 Ap- attacks on a turn when he charges.
Logan loses Deep Strike if he takes Stormrider
Lots of other cool rules, but didn't get those.


Njal Stormcaller
No new model shown in codex
Looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Ragnar Blackmane
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Ulrik the Slayer
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Canis Wolfborn
Again, looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Harald Deathwolf
The resin Thunderwolf Cavalry character model assigned a name
Didn't get the rules/stats.


Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Epic new plastic model, part of a box that makes a regular SW Venerable Dreadnought, Bjorn, or a new special character Dreadnought named 'Murderfang'.
No longer becomes a VP objective when he dies.


Wolf Lord
Mostly the same, no specific information.


Rune Priest
Mostly the same.
Specifically noted as starting at Mastery Level 2.
No other information.


Wolf Priest
Mostly the same, no specific information


Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Mostly the same, no specific information


Blood Claws Pack
Wolf Guard Leader upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information


Lukas the Trickster
No specific information, probably the same.


Grey Hunters Pack
Bolter and Bolt Pistol
Any model may add a Close Combat Weapon
One Special weapon per full five models still, but costs raised to same as C:SMs
Wolf Guard Upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information


Dreadnought
Not sure, but might have an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Murderfang
Crazy-awesome special character Venerable Dreadnought
Wolverine + Dreadnought + Extra Insanity = Murderfang
WS5 BS3 S6 F12 S12 R10 I4 A4 HP3
Wargear:
Searchlight
'Murderclaws' with underslung Storm Bolter and Heavy Flamer
Special Rules:
Furious Charge
It Will Not Die
Rage
Rampage
Murderlust
Options:
May take a Drop Pod
'Murderclaws' - A pair of enormous, even for a Dreadnought, Lightning Claws made of 'alien ice that never melts or loses sharpness'
S7 AP2 - Melee, Master-Crafted, Shred, Specialist Weapon


Venerable Dreadnought
Definitely has an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Can also have an enormous Power Axe and Storm Shield, said to look incredible.
Some special rules, but didn't get them


Iron Priest
No new model shown in codex
Options appeared to be nearly identical to old codex, probably a couple points changes though
Can take a unit of 1-5 Servitors, rules also looked the same as old codex


Lone Wolf
Rules nearly identical to old codex,
Owning player no longer gains a VP if they die
No other information


Wolf Guard Pack
This unit is just for Wolf Guard in Power Armor.
Have a similarly wide array of options as in the old codex, couldn't get specifics though
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport


Wolf Guard Terminator Pack
What it says on the tin, Wolf Guard in TDA
Storm Bolter and Power Weapon base
Options (any model in the unit can take these, this isn't all of the options though):
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Pair of Wolf Claws
Power Fist
Frost Axe
Frost Sword
Combi-weapon
Heavy Flamer
Assault Cannon
Cyclone Missile Launcher
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport


Arjac Rockfist
Mostly the same, no specific information


Wolf Scouts
Source totally forgot to look at them. Sorry guys.


Swiftclaw Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Skyclaw Assault Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Thunderwolf Cavalry
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information



Stormwolf - Fast Attack
BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover, Transport)
Wargear:
Twin-linked helfrost cannon
Twin-linked lascannon
Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20pts
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Assault Vehicle
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity - sixteen models
Fire Points - none
Access Points - One ramp at the front of the hull


Stormfang Gunship - Heavy Support
BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover Transport)
Wargear:
Helfrost destructor
Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20 pts
Two Stormstrike missiles - May be replaced with a twin-linked lascannon for 15 pts
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity - six models
Fire Points - none
Access Points - One at rear of the hull

Helfrost cannon
dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blast
focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost

Helfrost destructor
dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blast
focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance

Helfrost - If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play

Land Speeder Squadron
Same as Codex: Space Marines


Fenrisian Wolf Pack
Nearly identical to old codex, no specific information


Long Fangs Pack
Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a 'Long Fang Ancient'
Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles
Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though
Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information

Predator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Whirlwind
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Vindicator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Land Raider and variants
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Rhino and Razorback
No Helfrost Cannon option for the Razorback, same as Codex: Space Marines

Drop Pod
Same as Codex: Space Marines


Notable Exclusions from Codex: Space Marines
No Stormtalon
No Storm Raven
No Hunter or Stalker
Space Wolves AA options: Stormwolf, Stormfang, ADL gun emplacement, and Allies

pics via La Taberna de Laurana (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/rumores-imagenes-exclusivas-de-la-nueva.html) 7-28-2014

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via Grot Orderly (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/) 7-29-2014

Murderfang (The Curseborn)
Costs: Same as an Ironclad Dread

WS:5 BS:3 S:6 AV: 12/12/10 I:4 A:4 HP:3
Vehicle, Walker, Character

2x Murderclaws (S:7 AP:2, Melee, Master-crafted, Shred, Specialist)
(Murderclaws include built in Stormbolter, Heavyflamer)
Searchlight

Furious Charge
It Will Not Die
Rage
Rampage
Murderlust (ignores stunned/shaken)

May take a Drop-pod



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Logan Grimnar (on Chariot)
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via Grot Orderly (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/2014/08/white-dwarf-28-przecieki-leaks.html)8-4-2014

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Logan Grimnar

WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W4 I5 A5 Ld10 Sv2+
Terminator Armor
Stormbolter
Belt of Russ

Counterattack
Eternal Warrior
Independent Character
Stubborn
Acute Senses
Fearless

Saga of Majesty

Stormrider +70pts


Stormrider:

BS:3 AV: 12/12/12 HP3
Vehicle, Chariot, Opened-top

There is also chatter that Stormrider grants a 4+ invulnerable.


via 40kings.de (http://www.40kings.de/2014/08/space-wolves-regeln-warlord-traits-psikraefte-bcms-relikte/) (and google Translate)


Force Org:

At least 2 HQ, - maximum of 6 HQ (!)
Additional possibility to make units

Warlord traits:

-Reroll hits in a challenge
-Relentlessly for (complete) beasts and cavalry units of the Wolves, who within 12 around the Warlord these units Furious Charge
-Monster Hunter
-FNP 6 + for Warlord and unit
-Flank attack and cover for Warlord
-Repeat 12 inch radius MW and pinning

Wargear:

-Helfrost weapons in various versions: with wound strength test / death
-Blizzard shield (for Dreadnoughts): Melee weapon, 3 + ward against all hits against the front (also in NK)
-Rune Weapons: How Psiwaffen with Adamantener will

Relics:

-Bite of Fenris: Bolter with Helfrost
-Helm Durfast: reroll to hit, shooting attacks have ignore cover
-Armor of Russ: 2 + / 4 + +, ini opponents in challenge -5
-The Black Death: +2 S, DS2, melee, unwieldy, +3 attacks when more enemy models in melee
-Wulfestein: have support and unit Furious Charge, Carrier has Berserk

Psychic Powers:

-Living Lightning (Primary) / WC1: 18 inches Hexenfeuer, S7 DS, Storm 3, shock = at goal from 6 two additional hit, except for snapshots
-Stormbringer / WC1: Blessing, veils for psykers and unit
-Storm rage / WC1: curse unit in 18 inches, 1BF, open as difficult terrain, all jump infantry, slider, etc. antigrav must immediately remove test for dangerous terrain if affected.
-Murderous Hurricane / WC2: 18 inches Hexenfeuer, S4 DS, 5 inch template, Rending, Storm 1
-Fury of the wolf spirits / WC2: 18 inches Hexenfeuer, both profiles are shot in any order, S6 DS-4 storm, S5 DS2 Storm 2, precise
-Maw / WC2: 18 inches focused Hexenfeuer, a model (not monstrous) makes Initest / death

Björn:

KG 6, BF6, 13/13/10, reverend
Assault Cannon
5 + +
+1 On Iniklau
May swap weapons

Ulrik the Slayer:

145 points
KG 6, ini 5, 3 attacks
are unit 6 + FNP
nemesis is within 6 inches
Are adamant within 12 inches

Get on in there and help out you german speakers...

Via Grot Orderly 8-6-2014

Pretty much all the Space Wolves beans have been spilled here: (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/2014/08/spanish-space-wolves-codex-przecieki.html)

Grot Orderly has up a TON of stuff, go look and come back!


Champions of Fenris Summary by B&C's Arik Bloodmaw (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/)



Special Rules:
Sagaborn: Characters part of a Detachment or Formation from Champions of Fenris Must always issue and accept challenges.

First Among Equals: All WGBL, WGPL, WGTL and TWCL have Preferred Enemy in Challenges.

Relics of the Great Wolf:

Armour of Asvald Stormwrack 50 2+ 4++ Gives Bulky, Deep Strike, IWND, Relentless but cannot make Sweeping Advance. ( Terminator Armour )

Frostfury 15 Rng 24 S 4 AP 5 Assualt 4, Helfrost.

Krakenborne Sword 35 S +1 AP 2 Melee, Mastercrafted.

Morkai's Claws 45 S +1 AP 3 Melee, Maul, Rending, Shred, Specialist Wpn Maul: gains D3 attacks instead of 1.

The Pelt of Balewolf 10 Beared has Fear. Beasts, Cavalry or MC unit types in base contact auto fail any Fear tests. Unless Fearless or ATSKNF.

Fellclaw's Teeth 15 Bearer rerolls all failed to hit rolls in close combat.


Warlord Traits:

Fire in the Blood: reroll single failed saving throw every turn.

Thread-Cutter: reroll all failed to wound rolls.

Gatekeeper: Nominate one weapon carried by warlord, becomes Mastercraftered cannot be used on relics.

Blessing of the Wolf: Warlord and any unit he joins during deployment have Outflank.

Thane to the King: Warlord is Fearless.

Deeds Beyond Counting: Warlord has Preferred Enemy.
Kingsguard Stormforce:

Logan Grimnar must be equipped with Stormrider.

1 Wolf Guard Terminator Pack pf 5 models

1 Landraider ( Any type)

1 Stormfang Gunship

Special Rules: First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn

First into the Fray: On any turn that they disembark from the Formations landraider, WGT pack has Furious Charge and can reroll failed charges.

Wrath of the Stormfang: As long as Logan is alive, the controlling player can choose to pass or fail any Reserve Rolls for the Formations Stormfang Gunship.


Brethren of the Fell-Handed

Bjorn the Fell-Handed and 2 Dreadnoughts which must be upgraded to Ven Dreads.

Special Rules: Adamantium Will, Sagaborn

Blessing of Russ: Within 6 inches of Bjorn they gain 5++

Warriors of Legend: Whilst Bjorn is alive, the formation rerolls all failed to hit rolls in close combat.


Wolf Guard Void Claws

1 Unit of 5+ Wolf guard Terminators with Wolf Claws

Special Rules: First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn

Coordinated Assault: As long as atleast one model from this Formation is still alive and on the table, you can reroll any Reserve rolls.

If Needs Must: When this unit arrives from Deep strike, you can reroll the scatter if you wish.

Spearhead Strikes: All units from this Formation, begin in Reserves, must arrive by Deep Strike in your first turn.


Grimnar's War Council

Ulrick the Slayer, Njal Stormcaller, 1 Rune Priest and 1 Iron Priest

Before Deployment, field as a number of IC's or a single unit.

Special Rules: Fearless, First Among Equals, Sagaborn

Conclave of War: if deployed as a single unit, the formation loses IC, no IC can join the unit with the exception of Logan Grimnar on foot and Arjac Rockfist, However, the Formations Fearless is replaced with Zealot for as long as Grimnar remains with the unit.

Wise Council: an army with this formation, can reroll the dice for determining who deploys first and adds +2 to the dice roll for Seize the Initiative.


Arjac's Shieldbrothers

Arjac Rockfist

1 Unit of Wolf Guard Terminators must take Thunder Hammer and Storm Shields

1 Land Raider Crusader must be taken as WGT dedicated Transport.

Special Rules: First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn, Hammer of Wrath.

Protect the King!: As long as Grimnar is allive the Formation has Fearless, if he's slain, its replaced with Zealot.

Shieldwall: Any model in this Formation in base contact with atleast one model from this Formation has +1 Toughness
Each time a model from this Formation passes a save against a close combat attack, on a roll of a 6, the attacking unit suffers an immediated hit at str 8 ap2 concussive using random allocation.

Wolf Guard Thunderstrike

1 Unit of Wolf Guard Terminators

1 Unit of Wolf Guard must include 10 models

1 Drop Pod must be used as WG Dedicated Transport.

Special Rules: First AmongEquals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn

Explosive Arrival: During the turn in which they arrive from Reserves, the ranged weapons of all Infantry Weapons from this Formation have Twin-Linked Special Rule

Thunderstrike: When rolling for Reserves make a single roll to see when this Formation arrives, on a successfull roll all units in this Formation will arrive, These units must Deep Strike.

Champions of Fenris

All previous Formation combined.

Each Formations Special Rules apply plus Fear, Fearless

Great Wolf: As long as Grimnar is alive, all non vehicle models in this Formation reroll failed to hit rolls in close combat.

Iron High Priest: As long as the Iron priest is alive, all vehicle models have IWND.

Rune High Priest: As long as Stormcaller is alive, all models in this formation have Adamantium Will.

Wolf High Priest: As long as Ulrik is alive, all models in this formation have Preferred Enemy
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ORIGINAL POST:
Hmm, he looks awesome but those guys next to him are from the wolf pack box set. I wonder therefore if the new box is just a bundle rather than a starter set along the lines of DV? With krom and grukk being the only new models in the box..?

[DrLove42]

The text says new Space Wolves and Orks boxed set.

[spud75]

My thoughts;

We are possibly about to see the first campaign boxed set, models from two factions bundled together. I don't think this is a starter box at all, but an attempt to sell us minis we wouldn't otherwise buy.

[wolfyjoe]

It'd be pretty disappointing if Krom is the only new model for the box set and the others are DV style rehashes of the Wolves Pack.

[John Bower]

I dunno, I wouldn't mind some pups as an allied detachment; wouldn't mind Grukk and some more orks either. :)

[Beamo]

looks like the Blood Claw from the 3e codex finally got promoted to WG Battle Leader. I like him though. 10/10, would buy.

[daboarder]

actually hes leader of a great company, number 8 or 10 I think

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

My thoughts;

We are possibly about to see the first campaign boxed set, models from two factions bundled together. I don't think this is a starter box at all, but an attempt to sell us minis we wouldn't otherwise buy.

I think you are 100% correct on this, bundle two factions together with (perhaps) a bit of discount and an exclusive model or two. Quite like the idea myself.

[Agramar]

actually hes leader of a great company, number 8 or 10 I think

According to this,the "9th"
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RLVVDjAtB50/U7kVMcsSFyI/AAAAAAABIbM/hPFkzbzwZ-k/s1600/Grand_Annulus_detail.jpg

[Brent Colin]

This "Monster and Handlers" concerns me. Why would they give us an MC when we clearly are in need of a flyer or AA more? Also why would they make Logan a LoW? He's expensive but an extremely viable HQ choice and should remain so. (AKA don't wreck my Loganwing lol) And are we of the universal (unconfirmed) opinion that we're going From Ork Codex, to Boxed Set, to SW Codex? I for one wouldn't be surprised to see a Games Wolfshop logo in the coming weeks....

[Gray Hunter]

This "Monster and Handlers" concerns me. Why would they give us an MC when we clearly are in need of a flyer or AA more? Also why would they make Logan a LoW? He's expensive but an extremely viable HQ choice and should remain so. (AKA don't wreck my Loganwing lol) And are we of the universal (unconfirmed) opinion that we're going From Ork Codex, to Boxed Set, to SW Codex? I for one wouldn't be surprised to see a Games Wolfshop logo in the coming weeks....

I'm concerned about that too. I have a horrible feeling that our flyer will actually be a dragon. A freaking dragon. You know, cause a dragon in Dragongaze's Great Company is so painfully obvious they have to do it.

All I want is access to the Stalker and some type of fighter like the Thunder Budgie. I'm so sick of the wolves being portrayed as primitive and bring afraid of flying. They're the Wolves. Only Malficarum bothers them, and they ward that off and get on with their mission regardless of what they have to do or kill. That's their whole point of existence.

[Path Walker]

This "Monster and Handlers" concerns me. Why would they give us an MC when we clearly are in need of a flyer or AA more? Also why would they make Logan a LoW? He's expensive but an extremely viable HQ choice and should remain so. (AKA don't wreck my Loganwing lol) And are we of the universal (unconfirmed) opinion that we're going From Ork Codex, to Boxed Set, to SW Codex? I for one wouldn't be surprised to see a Games Wolfshop logo in the coming weeks....

You don't need a flyer, Space Wolves don't trust flying, its been a long established part of the fluff, as for AA, well, they'll possibly get access to flakk missiles and maybe a stalker or hunter.

I think we're seeing the end of "HQ unlocks X as a Troops choice", with Unbound and al units being scoring, its not really needed anyway, there might well be a Logan's Terminator formation too, thats the direction the game seems to be heading for things like that.

[spud75]

According to this,the "9th"
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RLVVDjAtB50/U7kVMcsSFyI/AAAAAAABIbM/hPFkzbzwZ-k/s1600/Grand_Annulus_detail.jpg

Never really thought of the Great Companies as having numbers, more a shifting of seniority as Wolf Lords and company names/badges changed, but maybe that is just me. The 13th being an exception that proves the rule :)

- - - Updated - - -


You don't need a flyer, Space Wolves don't trust flying, its been a long established part of the fluff, as for AA, well, they'll possibly get access to flakk missiles and maybe a stalker or hunter.

Nonsense, SW fly perfectly well; teleportation on the other hand is a no-no.

[DarkLink]

This "Monster and Handlers" concerns me. Why would they give us an MC when we clearly are in need of a flyer or AA more?

It's the Thunder-thunder Wolf-wolf cavalry. A unit of Thunderwolves combines together into one giant wolf.


You don't need a flyer, Space Wolves don't trust flying, its been a long established part of the fluff, as for AA, well, they'll possibly get access to flakk missiles and maybe a stalker or hunter.

You mean teleporting. They don't like teleporting. They don't care about flying. Otherwise, they'd never leave Fenris.

[spud75]

I was hoping for a Thunderwolf Chariot!

[Brent Colin]

I was hoping for a Thunderwolf Chariot!

Now I could support that, Armed with Astartes Grenade Launchers like on the scout bikes.

[completeHook]

A dog sled, or rather wolf sled...

Sort of like Radagast the Brown's Hare sled but with more teeth, sounds fun...

[Mr Mystery]

Reckon they'll get the usual Astartes kits, including the Stalker and Hunter, so no need for unique AA stuff.

[Tyrendian]

some weird new Fenrisian beast might just be cool though - strongly depends on what exactly it is obviously... the most prominent ones are seaborne though so that's unlikely...

[wolfyjoe]

some weird new Fenrisian beast might just be cool though - strongly depends on what exactly it is obviously... the most prominent ones are seaborne though so that's unlikely...

Exactly and the current codex established that the Thunderwolf is THE apex predator. It hunts everything, including the great Ice Bear. So I can't see them releasing some monster thats supposed to be bigger than that.

[MajorWesJanson]

Reckon they'll get the usual Astartes kits, including the Stalker and Hunter, so no need for unique AA stuff.

Stalker/Hunter would make sense to be added. Every army is getting a flier though, and I'd expect a Wolf specific one, or perhaps one shared with BA and or GK.

Kit-wise, a Wulfen kit/unit would make a lot of sense, as would a Space wolf Dreadnought with parts for Bjorn.

[Bigred]

2nd pass SW rumors: 7-7-2014

- Space Wolves move into the "modern age" with access many of the new Astartes kits and toys:
- The Hunter / Stalker is in
- The Stormraven is in
- The Stormtalon is out...
- Canis goes the way of the Dodo...

[daboarder]

ah well there goes the first finecast character, get ready for a purge of all those models guys, if it ain't plastic it doesn't get rules.......

[Houghten]

I'm concerned about that too. I have a horrible feeling that our flyer will actually be a dragon. A freaking dragon. You know, cause a dragon in Dragongaze's Great Company is so painfully obvious they have to do it.

Don't we already have the Helldrake for being a dragon?

[skeletoro]

ah well there goes the first finecast character, get ready for a purge of all those models guys, if it ain't plastic it doesn't get rules.......

Currently Logan and Njal are finecast, as are a bunch of other space wolf characters?

[daboarder]

I would hazard to guess that the logic for Canis being dropped would be something like this.

1) No one buys Canis, its a bad looking model that REALLY needs an update. Therefore we are no longer going to produce the finecast variant

2) Its too big for a blister, therefore it must be in a new "combo" kit, ala Nork

3) Space wolves already have plastic thunderwolves, therefore they aren't likely to get a new "combo" kit, therefore there is nowhere for Canis to go.

4) No Model no rules

5) Screw the purses if they don't like it

[skeletoro]

Yep.

[RGilbert26]

I never really liked the Canis model so not fussed if the character goes poof.

[daboarder]

I never really liked the Canis model so not fussed if the character goes poof.

I love this attitude, it really has to be the best thing about the community.

I mean by embaracing the idea that you don't care about others loosing well spent time and money is probably on of the major driving forces behind a lot of the GW love.

Honestly RG, you may not care, but there are going to be plenty of hobbyists up the creek because of this stupidity, and no, "just use regular wolf lord rules" is NOT the same.

[Mr Mystery]

I don't see why one with an existing model would be taken out the book? Characters sans models, yes on account that's happening.

[RGilbert26]

I love this attitude, it really has to be the best thing about the community.

I mean by embaracing the idea that you don't care about others loosing well spent time and money is probably on of the major driving forces behind a lot of the GW love.

Honestly RG, you may not care, but there are going to be plenty of hobbyists up the creek because of this stupidity, and no, "just use regular wolf lord rules" is NOT the same.

Eh? I've never used the guy or owned the model, so why should I care if he goes?

[Bigred]

via Skullchewer / MexicanOrk (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf): 7-7-2014


Allegedly the contents of Stormclaw are:
40k 7th Edition mini-rulebook (only in english)
Campaign book with Battle for Blistered Isle and first part of Battle for Alaric Prime, 32 pages.

Orks:
Grukk Face-Rippa
5 Nobz
10 Grots
1 Runtherd
3 Killa Kanz

Space Wolves:
Krom Dragongaze
5 Wolf Guards
5 Grey Hunters
5 Blood Claws

Limited Edition
100€

€100 = approximately £80
Orks
Grukk (Warboss) £15 (Closest match)
5 Nobz £15 for 5 and a grot, currently
10 Grots and a Runtherd £10
3 Kans £28
Space Wolves
Krom Dragongaze (Term armour HQ) £15
5 Wolf Guard (Currently £23 for 10) £11.50
5 Grey Hunters Currently £23 for 10)£11.50
5 Blood Claws (Currently £23 for 10) £11.50

Mini rule book... say £20
Campaign book. another £20?
£157.50

98009801

[RGilbert26]

Well this is annoying, I want both of the new HQs but I don't really want the box :(

[daboarder]

Eh? I've never used the guy or owned the model, so why should I care if he goes?

because everything that goes because GW decides its easy or they've made their target buck means that the game is that much worse off.

edit: Those don't look snap fit to me.

Guess GW has gone back to full sprues in the boxed kit?

Haven't seen that since 3rd

[crandall87]

Well this is annoying, I want both of the new HQs but I don't really want the box :(

They will be on eBay the moment it's released I'm sure. I had a feeling this would just be a bundle box and not like a traditional starter set but at least you still get the rulebook. Doing it this way makes it a lot easier for GW to make more than one starter set, hopefully we'll see more in the future.

[Mr Mystery]

because everything that goes because GW decides its easy or they've made their target buck means that the game is that much worse off.

edit: Those don't look snap fit to me.

Guess GW has gone back to full sprues in the boxed kit?

Haven't seen that since 3rd

I'd forgotten that! So used to push fit for the starters.

[wolfyjoe]

because everything that goes because GW decides its easy or they've made their target buck means that the game is that much worse off.

edit: Those don't look snap fit to me.

Guess GW has gone back to full sprues in the boxed kit?

Haven't seen that since 3rd

That'd be good. Saves me the trouble of cutting them apart to suit my own poses. I doubt Canis is going away. I'm not a fan of the pose however he has rules and a model so I highly doubt GW is just going to get rid of him in finecast without providing him in a plastic box, perhaps a combo pack with Fenrisian Wolves? At any rate, as a SW player, I haven't used Canis but I like the option of using him.

[Wolfshade]

Yay Starter box! I wants it! My precious

[Cutter]

Yay Starter box! I wants it! My precious

So, it's not a starter set as such, it's the "second installment of the Sanctus Reach Campaign", but it comes with a mini rulebook.

Is this the shape of things to come?

Instead of a 7th edition Starter we'll get a series of campaign packs, say one every two codices.

Each will contain a couple of new characters (made all the more essential/attractive by the character cull for the Codexs), but we can only get them if we buy the sets that are mostly comprised of stock kits, albeit at a 'knock-down' price.

Good for GW, okay for us I guess.

I'll bite for this one, don't own any Spikings, enjoying the nostalgia of the Sporks.

What about the rest of you guys?

[40kGamer]

ah well there goes the first finecast character, get ready for a purge of all those models guys, if it ain't plastic it doesn't get rules.......

I hope this proves to be untrue, but if it is, I hope they don't extend their eraser to finecast units like harlequins. :(

And what I really want is the codex.... which if orks are any indication I should be able to buy around Christmas if they start releasing the Wolves soon!

[Wolfshade]

What about the rest of you guys?

Orks are great, wolves convert to Bangles.

[Darren Richardson]

Campaign book with Battle for Blistered Isle and first part of Battle for Alaric Prime, 32 pages.

Interesting that this seems to very strongly suggest that they might be doing different boxed sets, since it states First Part of the Battle.....

But since I collect neither army, this set does nothing for me....

I don't like the dOrks and seriously SW?

I'm a space puppie, hear me bark, woof woof :p

[Mr Mystery]

I'm quite intrigued by this.

There's been a wish for greater variation in the starter sets for a few years now.

Who knows, we might even see this become 'mix and match' before long?

[oni]

I like this. I'll definitely be buying one. I've always wanted a small Space Wolves allied detachment and I was planning on buying exactly those Ork kits for my small Ork army. This box thankfully fits my desire perfectly and hopefully at a little bit of a discount. Getting a mini rulebook is just a bonus.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I only want the Orks...

[Demonus]

I suggested multiple "starter boxes" with different armies facing off years ago. maybe GW listened :)

[Cutter]

I suggested multiple "starter boxes" with different armies facing off years ago. maybe GW listened :)

That'll be it :-)

[Erik Setzer]

$125 for what equates to $216 of figures (if you use recent $21 price for plastic character figures) PLUS a mini-rulebook and campaign book?

Yeah, sign me up for that. At retail it's like buying all the Ork stuff and a cheap mini-rulebook and getting all the Space Wolf stuff free (or vice versa).

[MarneusCalgar]

latabernadelaurana: (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/2014/07/rumores-se-desvelan-mas-imagenes-de-la.html)

9804980598069807980898099810


Thanks for quoting us!

[Takerukau]

I love this idea. I hope that they do similar things with other armies, because that would be a great way to get little detachments started. Wait... what am I saying... I have too much to paint already!

[Mr Mystery]

$125 for what equates to $216 of figures (if you use recent $21 price for plastic character figures) PLUS a mini-rulebook and campaign book?

Yeah, sign me up for that. At retail it's like buying all the Ork stuff and a cheap mini-rulebook and getting all the Space Wolf stuff free (or vice versa).

£122.50 worth of models, not allowing for Gruk (nothing to really compare to!) and £18 for the Space Wolf character.

Yeah, go on then!

[skeletoro]

Hmm.. I wonder if anybody with WD in hand is able to make out the SW rules in those thumbnails? Can't QUITE read them in the pics I've seen but maybe the thumbnails are barely readable in the WD?

[MajorWesJanson]

not allowing for Gruk (nothing to really compare to!)

Grukk is likely around the $26-$30 mark. Larger than the mek, a 40mm base instead of the 28mm base of the Mad Dok, but not as bulky as the SAG mek at $37

[Wolfshade]

I suggested multiple "starter boxes" with different armies facing off years ago. maybe GW listened :)

It has been suggested by many, many times. Even down to a modular pick your armies in the box deally, though the trouble comes with the vast amout of permutations.

[Mr Mystery]

It has been suggested by many, many times. Even down to a modular pick your armies in the box deally, though the trouble comes with the vast amout of permutations.

Keeping them all in stock in a shop would be an issue, just due to shelf space. But, with every GW store having an order terminal, less so arguably.

And it gets that consumer back in store to pick up their order in various cases.

Who knows. We might see it yet.

[Shatterclaw]

I'm concerned about that too. I have a horrible feeling that our flyer will actually be a dragon. A freaking dragon. You know, cause a dragon in Dragongaze's Great Company is so painfully obvious they have to do it.

All I want is access to the Stalker and some type of fighter like the Thunder Budgie. I'm so sick of the wolves being portrayed as primitive and bring afraid of flying. They're the Wolves. Only Malficarum bothers them, and they ward that off and get on with their mission regardless of what they have to do or kill. That's their whole point of existence.

May be time has come for Wolves players to act like wolves.. they wont give us a flyer, we go unbounded and take our pick of the flyers that other marines have.. Truth be told the Nephilim Jetfigher style has grown on me, once certain things have been sanded off.. but the storm talon has it places as well. Just an idea.

Yes there the misconception that Wolves fear flying. You read the fluff, and its not really flying they distrusted, its Teleporting.

Still it seems awfully cramped jamming wolves in to the last have of July.. when there is plenty of room over in Augest.. Its not like any thing Important is happening then.. :D :p

[Demonus]

It has been suggested by many, many times. Even down to a modular pick your armies in the box deally, though the trouble comes with the vast amout of permutations.

I mean it really makes the most sense. Take 8 different armies, make 4 box sets, put a rulebook in each. Sure you might not play both armies in a set, but chances are your group or a local game store has people wanting X army with Y to trade you.

You can include:

Chaos Marines
Daemons
Eldar/Dark Eldar
Necrons
Orks
Tau
2 Marines

or Marines vs Something in each since Marines are the most popular.

[Ang56]

Yeah really hope the rumor about giant MC isn't true, would be terrible. Though I don't really believe it. Hope Canis stays as well. Stormraven or a variant of it and some of the vanilla marine toys makes sense.

Would like to see Wulfen kit, dread kit and Wolf Scout kit.

I don't want to see a major overhaul. I like most of the current codex. Bringing Blood claws and Scouts more in line with grey hunters would be nice. Scouts don't really feel like the veterans the lore implies to me. Wolfguard able to go with skyclaws. Wolfguard Assault Terminators cost brought more in line with other armies Assault Terminators.

Is there a lore reason for Space Wolves to not have apothecaries? Not sure if I would want that in or not, probably though since most armies coming out have some access to FnP as long as it was limited.

Really I'd just like some more flexibility, instead of feeling like if I want to win, spam more Grey Hunters / Long Fangs.

[Ang56]

I mean it really makes the most sense. Take 8 different armies, make 4 box sets, put a rulebook in each. Sure you might not play both armies in a set, but chances are your group or a local game store has people wanting X army with Y to trade you.

You can include:

Chaos Marines
Daemons
Eldar/Dark Eldar
Necrons
Orks
Tau
2 Marines

or Marines vs Something in each since Marines are the most popular.

It bothers me that everyone seems to be jumping on board with lumping Eldar and Dark Eldar into one, the Eldar part of my collection cringes every time I see it done. They don't really like one another.

And I get what you mean with the "pick the armies in the boxes", but I can see some points against it as far as GW is concerned. When Assualt on Blackreach came out I bought 5 boxes to expand out my BA for Apoc, was a really cheap deal, and let me use a terminator formation after some bit orders, I also converted 4 of the dreads using spare parts in the Furioso Kits. Anyways, I started to ebay the orks, but since I had so many already I ended up picking up some stuff to fill it out and conversion bits to make a pretty decent little ork force.

That box set was a great deal just for the marines alone, but it got me to pull the trigger on collecting an army that I had always liked but hadn't started buying.

Though I probably won't pick this one up. If they had really wanted this to sell well, they'd have put in a new buggy kit or plastic wulfen, like when dark vengeance came out with the new cultists and hellbrute before the regular kits were out.

The real killer for me is why they don't sell the paperback rules seperately. Always love having a cpl copies of the mini brb around.

[Path Walker]

The real killer for me is why they don't sell the paperback rules seperately. Always love having a cpl copies of the mini brb around.

Because they don't want to make the hobby about the rules of the game, they want it to be a hobby about collecting cool models, painting them and making a narrative around your armies.

[Ang56]

Because they don't want to make the hobby about the rules of the game, they want it to be a hobby about collecting cool models, painting them and making a narrative around your armies.

Also why give out any copies of the rules for cheap when ppl will pay for hardback art filled ones or rules plus models in a $115 box if they are forced to.

-------

I'm not sure I totally buy into the we're all about the models. Last few years they've been putting a ton of effort into rules writing. Rules, rules expansions, codex's, supplements are a pretty significant part of their business these days. They've jacked up the volume of rules writing a ton in the past few years. I think the rules are pretty important to them regardless of what is said. They are just taking the game in a direction that creates a lot of headaches for the tournament side of the community, and that's who tends to be the most vocal on the internet. But they seem to be working through it.

[daboarder]

Because they don't want to make the hobby about the rules of the game, they want it to be a hobby about collecting cool models, painting them and making a narrative around your armies.

Read the GW investor relations page

[templarboy]

Is there a lore reason for Space Wolves to not have apothecaries? Not sure if I would want that in or not, probably though since most armies coming out have some access to FnP as long as it was limited.
.

Wolf Priests have the Apothecary role. Maybe they will get FnP in the new codex.

[Nider]

Wolf Priests have the Apothecary role. Maybe they will get FnP in the new codex.

If you are dying, who are we to deny you Valhalla.
If Odin has better plans for you, he will save you himself.

[Demonus]

It bothers me that everyone seems to be jumping on board with lumping Eldar and Dark Eldar into one, the Eldar part of my collection cringes every time I see it done. They don't really like one another.

And I get what you mean with the "pick the armies in the boxes", but I can see some points against it as far as GW is concerned. When Assualt on Blackreach came out I bought 5 boxes to expand out my BA for Apoc, was a really cheap deal, and let me use a terminator formation after some bit orders, I also converted 4 of the dreads using spare parts in the Furioso Kits. Anyways, I started to ebay the orks, but since I had so many already I ended up picking up some stuff to fill it out and conversion bits to make a pretty decent little ork force.

That box set was a great deal just for the marines alone, but it got me to pull the trigger on collecting an army that I had always liked but hadn't started buying.

Though I probably won't pick this one up. If they had really wanted this to sell well, they'd have put in a new buggy kit or plastic wulfen, like when dark vengeance came out with the new cultists and hellbrute before the regular kits were out.

The real killer for me is why they don't sell the paperback rules seperately. Always love having a cpl copies of the mini brb around.

Oh I wasn't lumping, I was suggesting Eldar or Dark Eldar :)

[Unionfootball067]

Any updates?? I'm chomping at the bit for rumours and news!

[Ang56]

Oh I wasn't lumping, I was suggesting Eldar or Dark Eldar :)

I didn't mean to sound as offended as I did at your post specifically :P Just there's been a lot of posts since 7th about running eldar and dark eldar together since 7th. I guess you just made me think of it and i included my thoughts on that while commenting on the box set.

@unionfootball - Also want more SW rumours

[tiamat79]

I would have preferred something WOW, to go with my SW army I already own. I may as well just buy the rulebooks, it would be cheaper, as not too interested in 40k orks, more tempted with a foray into elder army next

[Kargarok]

I'm a little disappointed that there's only two new sculpts in the new box, but I've been looking for an excuse to pick up the Wolfguard termies for a while now, so this fits perfectly. Even better that I have an Ork Playing friend to pawn the greenies off on. ^_^

[pchappel]

Have to agree... Looks like they simply took 1/2 of a box set for each of the normal Infantry and threw in the WG Terminators... Would be nice to get the mini rulebook, but...

[Bigred]

Sanctus Reach: Stormclaw (http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Sanctus-Reach-Stormclaw-EN) $125


Only available while stocks last!

Stormclaw is the second instalment in the Sanctus Reach Campaign, and continues the narrative begun in Sanctus Reach: The Red Waaagh! It tells the tale of the blood-soaked battle between Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze and Warlord Grukk Face-rippa.

This multi-part plastic boxed set contains two forces - Orks and Space Wolves and two never before seen plastic character models: Krom Dragongaze and Grukk Face-rippa.

The Space Wolves Force includes: Krom Dragongaze, 1 Space Wolf Pack of 10 miniatures and 5 Wolf Guard Terminators.

The Ork Force includes: Grukk Face-rippa, 5 Ork Nobz, 3 Killa Kans and 10 Gretchin with a Runtherd.

The 32 page Stormclaw Campaign Supplement contains three missions that use the miniatures in the box and details the bloody confrontation between Grukk and Krom as they clash on the Blistered Isle. There are also Datasheets for every unit in the box including Grukk and Krom, plus two new Formations.

The boxed set also includes a handy small-format paperback edition of Warhammer 40,000: The Rules.

This is a limited quantity product - ensure you don’t miss out by ordering your copy today.

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[mearn4d10]

So... Sprues? Are they really tossing in: Wolf Pack, Termie WG, Nobs, Kanz, and Gretchkin? MMMMMMMM, totally getting my value from my split box!

[Takerukau]

Not gonna lie, I like it :) any kind of deal I can get on mini's is encouraging nowadays... though admittedly I think they are throwing the gretchin in there just to get rid of some they have too many of back at the HQ ;)

[Thaldin]

Limited supply? Bleh.

[SyntheticBacon]

Sexy

[This Dave]

Well damn. I want the mini rulebook and the campaign book but have no interest in any of the sprues. Guess it's to eBay I'll be going.

[Mr Mystery]

Well damn. I want the mini rulebook and the campaign book but have no interest in any of the sprues. Guess it's to eBay I'll be going.

You'd likely get a better overall price by doing the opposite. Buy boxed set, keep what you will, flog the rest. Everything in that box is pretty much an army staple.

[This Dave]

You'd likely get a better overall price by doing the opposite. Buy boxed set, keep what you will, flog the rest. Everything in that box is pretty much an army staple.

That's what I meant actually. Though I did that with Black Reach and wound up buying a few of the Ork sprues back when I decided to make my little Ork army. Maybe ol' Warboss Zoddgrim's mob will be getting a bit bigger. :)

[This Dave]

Well, guess it's a moot point now. Says Stormclaw is unavailable when I tried to order it from the GW website.

[Mr Mystery]

Still down as 'Pre-Order' on the UK site?

[rgrmaddog]

Stormclaw is still the first thing you see on the GW site, but...

"Availability: no longer available"

[Bigred]

via Voice of the Chaos Gods (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/U7NGdO9wOhU/space-wolf-releases.html) 7-15-2014

Plastic models for the Sons of Fenris

-Wolf Lord in Terminator Armor / Lorgan Grimnar
-Wolf Lord / Ragnar Blackmane
-Wolf Priest / Ulrik
-Iron Priest with Thralls Box
-Rune Warriors with Rune Priest / Wolf Guard Box

[skeletoro]

4chan leaked the next 'next week in WD':

War Diary: Armies on Parade is go!
Codex: Apocripha
Thousand Sons beware

[daboarder]

huh, codex: apocripha? what? a new codex, or a supplement?

[Charon]

Hahaha i see what you did there :D


Codex: Apocripha

Unless it is written wrong it literally means "shady" or "dubious"

[skeletoro]

Yar, there's also a few texts in the fluff (apocrypha of Davio, apocrypha of skaros) that refer to lists of 2nd founding chapters.

[daboarder]

Maybe a 1ksons/tzeentch supplemen?

[skeletoro]

I guess it's possible. They like secrets.

And it would really make a lot of sense if it was tzeentch (apocrypha) plus wolves (beware).

[daboarder]

there were those old tzeentch supp+wolves codex rumours.....I mean I had given up on those by now but maybe they were right

[skeletoro]

Yeah for a while it had looked like we'd see that AND HH Prospero all around the same time.

The weird thing is that apparently it's a CODEX. So maybe it's a mini dex rather than a supplement. Which would conflict with the idea that it's crimson fists or thousand sons (you'd expect those to be supplements)... hmm

[Mr Mystery]

4chan leaked the next 'next week in WD':

War Diary: Armies on Parade is go!
Codex: Apocripha
Thousand Sons beware

Claim to have seen, or showed photo?

Not that I don't trust 4Chan, being the cesspit of the internet, but I don't trust 4Chan, for it is the cesspit of the Internet.

And do we have to call everything 'leaked'. Just conjures up an image of Julian Assange getting fruity with himself in his room everytime I see it.

[daboarder]

Hes got photos of this weeks WD early so im inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And skel. The supplements are listed as codexes. Even on the stock clistings. Its onlt the cover that mentions supplement. We had the same thing for crimson slaughter

[Mr Mystery]

Ah cool :)

[MarneusCalgar]

Please, let´s keep on topic with Space Wolves... this is not a spam thread

[The Sovereign]

Not seeing nearly enough rumors about a new flyer!

[daboarder]

good, everyone gets a weakness. less do it all special snowflakes is better

[Bigred]

via one of Gary's birds (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/lkTV_kNFF1I/space-wolf-new-box-sets-along-with-codex.html): 7-16-2014

Combo kits to accompany Codex Space Wolves:


-Sky Claw Pack - 5 Marines with Jump Pack
1x Space Wolves sprue, 1x old Assault Marine Jumppack sprue

-Long Fang Pack - 5 Marines and Razorback
1x Space Wolves sprue, 1x Devastator Weapon sprue, 1x Razorback & Rhino sprues

-Retinue of the Wolf Priest - 1x Wolf Priest, 10x Wolf Guard
1x Wolf Priest sprue, 2x Space Wolves sprues, 1x Space Marine Command Squad sprue

-Ragnars Great Company - 1x Wolf Lord, 5x Terminators, 20x Grey Hunters / Blood Claws, 3x Drop Pod
1x Wolf Lord sprue, 1x Space Wolves Terminator sprue, 4x Space Wolves sprues, 3x Drop Pod sprues

[daboarder]

oO wait, just repackaged kits?

That would be very lack luster

[skeletoro]

I don't think those boxes even make a whole lot of sense, particularly. E.g. the command squad one - makes 15 models. And many of the parts in the command squad would be of limited use to a space wolves player. We have wolf priests, not apothecaries, and those apothecary bits would arguably be much too 'heavy handed' to convert a good wolf priest (and anyway, unless things change a lot, wolf priests are HQs and we don't have anything like that in a wolf guard pack.) at least currently, the only standards are wolf standards, used by grey hunters (though this could change). Company champion? Those bits just aren't very wolf looking, we have a resculpt of the same sword (with runes on it) although the shoulders might work well. No, the command squad kit is of quite limited relevance to SWs.

Razorback for a long fang pack? A 5 model long fang pack? I mean, yeah, people do take razorback as gunboats to go along with long fangs, but it's not IMO the 'standard' usage. I doubt they'd bundle them with a transport, not unless they randomly gained relentless or something (then it'd be all on!)

That ragnar one sounds kinda plausible (as a SW version of the strike force) and would actually make an exceptionally well thought out and less eclectic bundle than we usually see... Except it's just TDAWG and wolf packs. The only new model being Ragnar? I'd be surprised. I'd expect to see more new models in any new battle/strike force. Like new power armour wolf guard (if the other rumour is true). The space marine strike force has the lovely new tactical squads in it, for example.

The skyclaws would be flat footed... it just seems a bit lame. Not impossible but seems implausible to me. They'd also come with a bazillion unnecessary bits - bolters, regular backpacks, etc - presumably driving up the cost of production for bits that the average space wolf player would quickly have too many of (if they didn't already).

[Thornblood]

It makes some sense to me- if I were GW I would be all about the repackaging, as that way you spend no money developing stuff...

However they seem to have been successful with bundle deals with limited release hqs- the chaplain and command squad, the terminator commander and 1st company...

So yeah, a Runepriest and a ragnar-wolflord make sense to me this way. They release a single model, and gain a big spend from customers.

But most importantly, Krom Dragongaze looked awesome. I really want to see a new Rune Priest and a new Ragnar!

[jcropper]

Gw is known for repackaging, that being said for a new player or someone looking to start the army it will be a fantastic way to do it.

That being said the players who have been collecting the army for a while will be getting a lot of repeats (though lets be honest... we will all still buy it.)

Hell even storm claw is is mostly repackaged goodies with the addition of the Krom. just hopefully you have a buddy who plays orcs or an ebay account.

[LittleMen]

Man, the old Space Wolves sprue could be the ugliest plastic still in production next to the Catachans.

[Rough Touch]

Man, the old Space Wolves sprue could be the ugliest plastic still in production next to the Catachans.
no no no my friend the ugliest must be the khorne Berzerkers, I love Khorne but every time I goto dip into my wallet to buy a army I see this silly kit and I change my mind

[Bigred]

via The Mexican Ork (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf) 7-17-2014


StormClaw Unboxing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLfO88hVSs&feature=youtu.be

[Cpt Codpiece]

i was thinking, what if the skyclaws just have the Jump packs (http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Jump-Packs)sprue rather than assault sprues, same with devs... if they are boxed like that.... ive not bought any :P i like the idea of a razorback though, even if not for the fangs.... just give it to a hunter squad as a heavy platform :P

[MarneusCalgar]

Good video!

[madlib]

Man, the old Space Wolves sprue could be the ugliest plastic still in production next to the Catachans.

Agreed. It's terrible looking. It needs to be redone. Oh and thunderwolves are terrible too, but GW won't get rid of those because the kiddies like them.

[Cpt Codpiece]

Agreed. It's terrible looking. It needs to be redone. Oh and thunderwolves are terrible too, but GW won't get rid of those because the kiddies like them.

the newer sprue is great (the wolf pack)..... add it to a new tactical box or sternguard box and its even better, the only reason people would want the older one is for the wolf backpack and the mk VI chest surely.

thunderwolves i always found a little silly.... but given that they are pretty new... they aint goin anywhere

[40kGamer]

thunderwolves i always found a little silly.... but given that they are pretty new... they aint goin anywhere

Thunderwolves are brilliant models when used as Fenrisian wolves... Much better than the actual 'puppy sized' kit. :)

[Daniel Georges]

Stormclaw secured in my hands! Sweet!

[Bigred]

via The Mexican Ork (https://www.facebook.com/mexork?ref=br_tf) 7-17-2014


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[Cpt Codpiece]

Thunderwolves are brilliant models when used as Fenrisian wolves... Much better than the actual 'puppy sized' kit. :)

i actually love the wolves in the kit, just the premise of space marines riding warewolf space marines is just silly.

i HATE the folds on the faces of the fenris wolves kit, trish carden can sculpt, but it seems every model has these exaggerated folds and they all look the same! (just look back right through GW history, for trish morrison and recently carden.... congrats :) ). id be adding thunderwolf style fur (jagged edged style) on the faces of the FW's if and when i get them :)

[Bigred]

via Voice of the Chaos Gods (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/a6Z6f3Z_-g4/space-wolves-codex-info.html) 7-18-2014

Space Wolves Codex Info:


Sagas
They are now Warlord Traits like other armies with the difference that you can choose them without to roll dices

HQ Units
Like 3rd Edition; One HQ per 750p

Logan Grimnar
Lord of War, may take Two Warlord Traits, make Wolf Guard Packs to troops

Ragnar Blackmane
When all Units in the detachment take Drop Pods as dedicated Transport, Ragnar will be free. Your Army may only take Unites with an Drop Pod option.

Canis Wolfborn
No longer in the Codex

Harald Deathwolf
New Character, replace the generic Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf, make Thunderwolf Cavalry to Troops

Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Now a Lord of War, becomes "it will not die". When Bjorn is destroyed every Space Wolves Unit within 12" becomes furious charge, fearless and hate the unit, charakter or vehicle that destroyed him

Wolf Guard
Pack Leaders are now entries in the Units like Squad Leaders in other Armies. Still no teleport for Terminators

Grey Hunters
Close Combat Weapons are now a option that replace the Bolter, 5p cheaper

Blood Claws
3p cheaper

Long Fangs
Can't take Rhinos as dedicaded Transports

[Mr Mystery]

Mmm! Dead Sea Salty!

Recent codexes have killed off FoC switches, mostly because unbound.

[Path Walker]

Get rid of named Thunderwolf riding lord with a unique model and replace him with a different named Thunderwolf riding Lord?

[TheCreator]

A Faeit poster said that a plastic Logan Grimnar was photographed and than accidently dropped. Seems like the plastic dual kit termi character needs less salt. And I think it's safe to say that the Canis model is just getting renamed to Harald. GW's replacing box art, so might as well change the name.

[Shipmonkey]

A Faeit poster said that a plastic Logan Grimnar was photographed and than accidently dropped. Seems like the plastic dual kit termi character needs less salt. And I think it's safe to say that the Canis model is just getting renamed to Harald. GW's replacing box art, so might as well change the name.

Why rename Canis as Harold when the current Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf comes with the insignia for Harold?

[Unionfootball067]

I'd like to see wolflord Sven become an hq or elite to take with Ragnar

[daboarder]

A Faeit poster said that a plastic Logan Grimnar was photographed and than accidently dropped. Seems like the plastic dual kit termi character needs less salt. And I think it's safe to say that the Canis model is just getting renamed to Harald. GW's replacing box art, so might as well change the name.
PAHHHAHA. That used to be the studios old excuse for models not being released. But the thing is, they dont have master models anymore, its all digital files and design now.

[Mr Mystery]

Still sound saltier than the Dead Sea to my ears.

I mean, why drop Canis? Model is out there, and there's a separate model for more generic characters.

Just doesn't chime with me.

[DarkLink]

So they get their own version of the Storm Raven, why does that sound unlikely?

[BananaDynasty]

So they get their own version of the Storm Raven, why does that sound unlikely?

Because GW. Getting pumped for space wolves especially since I scored 25 based only grey hunters on ebay for £25. They are gonna be kick *** allies for my crons, I just hope long fangs keep drop pod transport.

[Mr Mystery]

Hmm. Describes the model, so marginally less salty.

Has also put a release time.....

[Cpt Codpiece]

All I can say, is I hope I can use my converted raven as it.... I'll leave it till model comes and see what I may have to change for WYSIWYG.....

[Bigred]

Latest on a Space Wolves flyer:

Little Bird (http://http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397586-Codex-Space-Wolves-to-be-released-soon!&p=7221713&viewfull=1#post7221713) says:
Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

I should really have said 'love-child of a Caestus Assault Ram and a Stormtalon'. That is a better description of the model's appearance.

[40kGamer]

via Voice of the Chaos Gods (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/a6Z6f3Z_-g4/space-wolves-codex-info.html) 7-18-2014

Space Wolves Codex Info:

If you take the Grey Hunters and Bloodclaws from the Stormclaw campaign supplement, and use the Codex Space Marine upgrade prices, Grey Hunters come out at -1pt base and Blood Claws -3pts. Both of which seems plausible as they are the same as Tacticals and +1 vs Scouts in the generic Codex. I'm definitely getting excited for the update! When I decided to truescale a Marine chapter it was the Wolves. I have ~80 of these guys itching to hit the table! :p

[RGilbert26]

Space Wolves Pre-order starts 26th July.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5I52M-0B8

[MarneusCalgar]

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Source: http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/rumores-aun-mas-datos-sobre-lobos.html

[DrLove42]

Damn thats lovely.

[Wolfshade]

That looks like the illegitimate love child of the ceustus assualt ram and the storm talon,

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Little Bird (http://http//www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397586-Codex-Space-Wolves-to-be-released-soon!&p=7221713&viewfull=1#post7221713) says:
Before you see the codex you will see something else new under the sun for Space Wolves. Think in terms of the most glaring current gap in the Space Wolves lineup.

I should really have said 'love-child of a Caestus Assault Ram and a Stormtalon'. That is a better description of the model's appearance.

[Skullchewer]

More pictures.
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[Wolfshade]

Oh yeah so it does. Ah well, tis true

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I don't like it.

[spagunk]

More pictures.
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It is damn ugly as sin but I love it. Very "Viking" barge-y. I want one for my Blood Angels.

[Skullchewer]

I'm looting one first chance I get.

[RGilbert26]

Hmm I believe I just messed myself, lol.

[Mr Mystery]

Who said Space Wolves don't do subtle?

Oh. Wait!

[Forge Master]

Brick with wings. Not sure if I like it or not.

[spud75]

Brutal, unsubtle, hard as nails. Perfect for Space Wolves. I'll have three please!

[DrLove42]

I'm looting one first chance I get.

Seconded. Stick some tracks on it and itll make a nice Battlewagon

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I might turn it into a Caestus, or keep it as is and just add it to my Fire Angels

[eldargal]

That's kind of adorable actually.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

We have very different ideas on what adorable means. xD

[daboarder]

I love the design, but I also just hate the extraneous bits on it and the way that the secondary weapons lookchildish and tacked on

[CoffeeGrunt]

10083

Stolen from a friend on Facebook. Seems to show the art direction used quite well.

[eldargal]

such brick, very fly. wow

[Darren Richardson]

aw man, and I was trying not to get roped into buying Space Puppies, now they have given me an excuse to Buy LOTS, damn :p

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such brick, very fly. wow

come on, if it's the lovechild of a ceti then it's designed to crash all the time!

[Brakkart]

And here was me wondering how GW would do justice to the idea of a Space Wolf flyer given that chapters notorious dislike of flying and total lack of subtlety. I think they nailed it perfectly as this thing has zero grace or subtlety too it, it screams brutal functionality which is what the Wolves are all about. I love it.

[Tomgar]

Only the Dark Angels' flyers care for aerodynamics and for this we are punished with rubbish rules :p

[CoffeeGrunt]

One 5th of the Tau race is utterly dedicated to the Air and Space, and we got the Sunshark...

[SadisticMagician]

I love the design, but I also just hate the extraneous bits on it and the way that the secondary weapons lookchildish and tacked on

That seems to be the Space Marine flyer aesthetic, I think the same about the Storm Talon. Guns tacked on all over the place.

[Brakkart]

One 5th of the Tau race is utterly dedicated to the Air and Space, and we got the Sunshark...

Yeah but to be fair you also got the Manta!!

[Arkhan Land]

inspired by the aerodynamic design of our space shuttle...

in truth i am excited looks cool, very in the spirit of the space wolves CCishness I assume aside from being an assualt vehicle that this bad boy does some damage coming in

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

such brick, very fly. wow

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This comment made me choke on my cup of tea.

[CoffeeGrunt]

Yeah but to be fair you also got the Manta!!

I don't think you can say we've got that, when it costs £960 to get it... :/

[Kirsten]

I like it, aside from the fact it has silly storm raven sponsons, with field of fire so limited they might as well just be fixed forward. at least it doesn't shoot itself when it fires its' sponsons, unlike the storm raven...

[Cap'nSmurfs]

I'm... kind of... in love with that thing. It's so absurd. You can see it screaming down from the sky to crashland somewhere, skid along, and disgorge a cargo of angry, bearded men with axes. Wonderful.

[40kGamer]

I'm... kind of... in love with that thing. It's so absurd. You can see it screaming down from the sky to crashland somewhere, skid along, and disgorge a cargo of angry, bearded men with axes. Wonderful.

I have to agree. For some reason it just cries "Wolf".

[DWest]

I'm seriously tempted to get one and convert it into a Fire Raptor. As is, it's teetering right on the precipice between hilariously stupid and hilariously awesome.

[DarkLink]

And here was me wondering how GW would do justice to the idea of a Space Wolf flyer given that chapters notorious dislike of flying and total lack of subtlety. I think they nailed it perfectly as this thing has zero grace or subtlety too it, it screams brutal functionality which is what the Wolves are all about. I love it.

Teleporting. Space Wolves don't like teleporting. They don't care about flying at all.

[bfmusashi]

I want to put bigger engines on it.

And DarkLink, it was mentioned in the last codex they dn't like jump packs or flying things because their primarch always fought on foot, and if it was good enough for him it's good enough for them gosh darn it.

[Pssyche]

I want to put bigger engines on it.

And DarkLink, it was mentioned in the last codex they dn't like jump packs or flying things because their primarch always fought on foot, and if it was good enough for him it's good enough for them gosh darn it.

All I can say is they must have some long sets of ladders and good head for heights in order to embark their Battle Barges from Planetside.

[daboarder]

All I can say is they must have some long sets of ladders and good head for heights in order to embark their Battle Barges from Planetside.

There us a difference between tranport from place to place and fighting in the air

[DarkLink]

Or in space, I guess.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Did no one notice that Space Wolf Terminator Armour allows you to deep strike in the Stormclaw rules?

[Bigred]

images via Grot Orderly (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/2014/07/white-dwarf-26-przecieki-leaks.html) 7-21-2014

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[daboarder]

Man if those images dont scream viral marketing.....

Like the second variant though. Really cool

[The Sovereign]

images via Grot Orderly (http://grotorderly.blogspot.com/2014/07/white-dwarf-26-przecieki-leaks.html) 7-21-2014

Ancient warriors of Fenris? Looks like we might be getting Wolf dreadnoughts.

[madlib]

I want to put bigger engines on it.

And DarkLink, it was mentioned in the last codex they dn't like jump packs or flying things because their primarch always fought on foot, and if it was good enough for him it's good enough for them gosh darn it.


That's the corniest piece of fluff ever. I really wish GW would stop injecting cheesy crap into Space Wolf lore.

[Pssyche]

There us a difference between tranport from place to place and fighting in the air

Tell that to B.A. Barracus...

[eldargal]

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This comment made me choke on my cup of tea.
I'm rather proud of it.:p

[dubhgilla]

Tell that to B.A. Barracus...

Blood Angel Barracus? Who is he? ;)

[Pssyche]

Blood Angel Barracus? Who is he? ;)

I pity the fool...

[Agramar]

No spray:
http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com/2014/07/sin-spraysperfiles-y-reglas-del.html
But the pics aren't 100% complete yet...:(

[marful]

I'm sorry, but I have to say it... It looks like a giant flying penis that is trying to ram into things.

[bfmusashi]

That's the corniest piece of fluff ever. I really wish GW would stop injecting cheesy crap into Space Wolf lore.

You mean like how their priests watch young people during physical contests before snatching them in the night to give them a big meal full of roofies before dropping them off in the wilderness. A wilderness filled with APC sized wolves, psychic foxes, and really big elk? How about Ragnar shoving a krak grenade into a Screamer-Killer's mouth and kicking him with his retractable boot knives? The bit about kraken egg? Logan's multiple temper tantrums because the Imperium doesn't do things his way? All of these things, and many more, are what I'd count as cheesier than 'we prefer to walk.'

[eldargal]

Space Wolves are the cheesiest bloody thing in 40k.

[40kGamer]

Space Wolves are the cheesiest bloody thing in 40k.

Ancient Fenrisian saying: In a galaxy full of cheese, it's better to be the Cheddar than the Limburger. :p

[eldargal]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only fondue.

[Mr Mystery]

Surely you mean Kraft 'Cheese' Singles, rather than Fondue?

After all, Radiohead wrote the hit single Fake Plastic Cheese about them, they're that grim.

[Wolfshade]

There is no cheese on Feris

[Mr Mystery]

Bueller?

[DWest]

Seeing the transport version as well, I'm definitely getting one, although it's going to end up becoming a Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor before it hits the table. If nothing else, this kit is going to have a ton of great parts to steal:
-Stormraven-style door sponsons with Heavy Bolters and Multi-Meltas; these should socket straight in to a Rhino's side doors for an interesting take on the Predator design.
-Top-mounted Helfrost turret looks to be the same socket size as the Razorback turret, which could lead to some interesting replacements (Psycannon turrets anyone?).
-The gunboat Helfrost cannon might make a nice Heavy Conversion Beamer or a barrel swap for the Knight Paladin.
-The "bling" on the front hatch is probably molded in place, but if not, it or the wolf skull for the gunboat have potential for epic banner toppers.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Christ, that thing hits harder than my wife!

[Bigred]

In the day's most odd rumor, we get this from La Taberna De Laurana (http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/) 7-22-2014

Original Spanish:

- Comenzamos con el nuevo correo que nos ha llegado ésta misma mañana, por parte de nuestras Fuentes Anónimas, confirmándonos las novedades, ahora sí que de manera definitiva, de la semana. Son éstas, e iban acompañadas del siguiente texto:

Aguardan en silencio el momento adecuado, cazadores implacables, astutos y taimados frenan a sus más impetuosos compañeros de afiladas zarpas como el acero. El gigantesco lobo que acompaña a su señor olfatea el ambiente, saboreando el olor del inminente bocado. No le sobrecoge el temor, nada tienen que hacer los invasores a los que se enfrentan, todo ha sido planeado. El aire frío en sus pulmones, la escarcha en su cabello y su aliento cobra vida en este gélido páramo mientras aguardan la señal. Suena el cuerno y como una ola rugiente aúllan alimentando el miedo en sus enemigos. Rápidos y letales, ansiosos de probar su valía se lanzan al combate ladera abajo. Rugen juntos como hermanos, luchan codo con codo y esta noche, vivan o mueran, festejarán la batalla a la que hoy se les ha llamado.

(Prepedidos 26 de Julio - Lanzamiento 2 de Agosto)

Translated English:

- We start with the new mail that has come to us this morning, by our Spanish sources, confirming the news, now that definitively, of the week. Those, and were accompanied by the following:

Quietly await the right time, relentless, cunning and crafty hunters to curb their impetuous fellow sharp claws like steel. The giant wolf who accompanies his master sniffs the air, savoring the smell of impending bite. No fear overwhelms you, have nothing to do with the invaders they face, everything has been planned. The cold air in your lungs, the frost in his hair and his breath comes to life in this frozen wasteland while awaiting the signal. The horn sounds and howl like a roaring wave feeding the fear in their enemies. Quick and lethal, eager to prove his worth to battle rush downhill. Rugen together as brothers fight side by side and tonight, live or die, will celebrate the battle that now have been called.

(Preorder July 26 - August 2 Release)

That's harder to unravel than the Gordian Knot...

[MarneusCalgar]

Thanks for quoting our blog BigRed!

[DrLove42]

Id guess that Ancient Warriors of fenris refer to the natural wolves of the planet, not the Astartes version.


Although there are no Wolves on Fenris

[Troll Factory]

maybe this Ancient Warrior of Fenris is something like Centurion Squad

[StraightSilver]

Please GW, DON'T let it be a giant wolf the size of a Land Raider......

I suspect that's probably what it will be, probably on a Mumak / Knight sized base.....

I hope not though but only because I think they have gone far enough with the Thunder Wolves and Fenrisian Wolves, but it does sound like one of the Blackmane wolves.

The only other thing I can think of is Wulfen in plastic, but I think that's highly unlikely.

[40kGamer]

Please GW, DON'T let it be a giant wolf the size of a Land Raider......


I wouldn't object to a larger wolf as I need appropriate sized models for my Thunderwolf Cav. :P

[Demonus]

Maybe a giant wolf that TWC can use as a transport! Access point under the left rear leg

[eldargal]

I think I know what it is going to be (http://dogr.io/doge.png).

[40kGamer]

I think I know what it is going to be (http://dogr.io/doge.png).

Crap I got excited and fell for it! :)

In all seriousness I need bigger wolves as I am far too lazy to sculpt appropriate sized thunderwolf cav. The current kit does make nice Fenrisian Wolves though.

[daboarder]

I've been hoping for a kraken, controlled by handlers, ala Dark elves

[Bigred]

Latest Space Wolves Rumor Releases: 7-23-2014


August 2nd: Stormwolf/StormFang Combo-kit
August 9th: Dreadnought/Bjorn Combo-kit (includes new "freeze/cold" cannon and DCCW weapons)
August 16th:
- WolfLord (Frost axe/pistol)
- IronPriest (Servo-harness w "freeze/cold" weapon, T-hammer, pistol)
August 23rd:
- Codex Space Wolves
- Artbook
August 24th:
- Long Fangs ("freeze/cold" cannons)
- Rune Priest (Termy, (helmet/bare heads) Force staff, SB)

Rumor reliability: Medium-Low, coming from both known and unknown sources

[40kGamer]

Another month long release! Oh, the horror!

[HsojVvad]

Another month long release! Oh, the horror!

Was going to start Orks, but for what ever reason, this new release schedule just bored me and got disinterested in starting Orks. Looks like it will be the same thing for Space Wolves.

I find it kinda of pathetic that GW only strategy for sales is impulse buys.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Hoping the freeze/cold cannon stuff is false. After the dull "wolfywolfwolves" approach of the last update, "they cold!" wouldn't be much of an improvement.

[Krefey]

Ancient warriors...could just be the new dreadnought plastic kit

[MajorWesJanson]

Hoping the freeze/cold cannon stuff is false. After the dull "wolfywolfwolves" approach of the last update, "they cold!" wouldn't be much of an improvement.

I personally really like the name and concept of the Helfrost weapons. Especially the twinlinked version, which is forever to be dubbed the Bi-Frost gun. It's pretty logical to assume that Dreadnoughts will get access to them, and if the rumor is true, man portable ones in the Long Fang squad should look interesting.

Far better than wolf claws, which are just lightning claws +1, and should just disappear from the codex. Just use lightning claws like everyone else, and have fun with Frost weapons (which hopefully become power weapons with the Helfrost rule)

[Troll Factory]

Another month long release! Oh, the horror!

from the point of GW view is a good policy, keeps interest of the army for the entire month, and players have something to be excited for a longer time.


"freeze/cold" cannon

any information how it will be looked? is this only a heavy gun such as lascanon or smaler too like bolter or pistol? and what about rules?



Hoping the freeze/cold cannon stuff is false. After the dull "wolfywolfwolves" approach of the last update, "they cold!" wouldn't be much of an improvement.

space marines got graviton gun so meyby its true, these weapons could be a pretty interesting and would look good :)

[templarboy]

Hoping the freeze/cold cannon stuff is false. After the dull "wolfywolfwolves" approach of the last update, "they cold!" wouldn't be much of an improvement. I find it funny that people object to the absurd in a fantasy/sci-fi game. Of course it's absurd. So are space elves, space orcs, and just about everything else in 40k. I remember how silly the squats were. Personally, I love all the goofy stuff.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

That's true, 40k is pure silliness, It's science fantasy with a more comical approach more akin to 2000AD as oppose to Dune's more serious take - if you want Arthur C Clarke and Stephen Baxter, You're better off waiting for my game ;)

The freeze rumour is probably true, I wonder if they will get any new infantry kits though? I really liked the werewolf guys....

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

I find it funny that people object to the absurd in a fantasy/sci-fi game. Of course it's absurd. So are space elves, space orcs, and just about everything else in 40k. I remember how silly the squats were. Personally, I love all the goofy stuff.When did I ever say "absurd"? :P

It's just that incredibly simple explorations of the theme (They are Space Wolves, so they ride big wolves!/They are from an ice planet, so they have ice guns!) do not capture my imagination at all! They feel like stamped out, automated ideas.

I love the imaginative goofy stuff - "Space monks with chainsaws and grenade launchers" is absurd, but it's uniquely absurd. Orks who are so psychic they need grounding staves, and fight with magical summoned feet? Yes! "These guys have a wolf theme so we gave them wolves to ride" is just kinda dull.

It's adding more wheat bits to my lucky charms. I still like the lucky charms, but I'd rather they added more marshmallows :P

[DWest]

I still want to see it be a form of psycannon, as in "our homeworld is so cold, the chill settles in to your soul, and now we're going to share the joys of being that cold with you, my dear heretics!"

[Bigred]

via Kirby at 3++ (http://www.3plusplus.net/2014/07/space-wolves-stromfang-stormwolf/) 7-21-2014


Grey Hunters are not cheaper, they are still 15/model.

They come with Bolter, Bolt Pistol, grenades, ATSKNF, Counter Attack and Acute Senses.

They can have one model upgraded to a Wolf Guard, for +10 points, who gets +1Ld/attack and access to wargear. (Same as veteran sergeants, except that if not taken, there isn't a “character” in the unit the way normal sergeants are).

They can take 1 special weapon, or 2 at 10 man. They are limited only to special weapons and not heavy as per normal. They pay the same points as space marines now, not a discount and not a free one at 10.

They can also take plasma pistols at 1 per 5 in addition to special weapons.

They can swap their bolter for a chainsword at no cost, on a model-by-model basis, and it specifies that it must also be represented on the model.

Wolf banners are still in, but aren't as good and cost 15 points not 10.

Bloodclaws are 13 points per model, minimum 5 up to 20. Similar as above for upgrades. Unlike what's in Stormclaw, if you upgrade a Bloodclaw to a Wolf Guard he gets +1 WS and BS (to take him to 4/4). They have rage now instead of their former +d3 attacks on the charge.

Wolf Guard terminators are now an entry, as are Wolf Guard non terminators, so no mixing and matching. No more pack leader separating of Wolf Guard to join other squads. Just upgrades in unit.

Logan Grimnar and Bjorn are Lords of War.

[daboarder]

Thats rumour reverb from naftka

[spud75]

I would be well peeved if Grey Hunters lost the ccw, bolt pistol, bolters combo my entire great company is kitted out with a mix of weapons. Don't fancy rearming them just to suit poor codex writing!'

[Erik Setzer]

I remember how silly the squats were.

Yeah, but that was one of the excuses for nixing them. Now we have Tomb Kings in Space, the Space Wolves are getting more cliched, the Blood Angels are getting so ridiculous I won't touch them (and they were my first true army in 40K as a kid), they had characters like Sly Marbo in the game, they added Gundam to the game... But for some reason, Space Dwarfs were too much.

[energongoodie]

Flyers are up for pre-order.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Stormfang-Gunship;jsessionid=4B46372144AF0298CB8AE889814C1E9 2?utm_term=0_c6e14e39d2-0b63266eac-113183301&utm_medium=email&utm_source=GamesWorkshop.com&utm_campaign=0b63266eac-CW_2014_07_25_The_Sons_of_Russ_take_to_the_skies&_requestid=1687179

[spud75]

Stormwolf squadron ordered, now where are the pictures of the dreadnought kit!

[rgrmaddog]

...now where are the pictures of the dreadnought kit!

I don't know, but here is a sneak peek at the giant MC model (sorry, it's a snow cat for those of you betting on a super sized thunder wolf.):

...





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[MarneusCalgar]

And Bjorn has come for next week!

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[Bold or Stupid]

And Bjorn has come for next week!

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Murderfang? Wonder what that is. Bjorn is looking boss though.

[spud75]

Now that is a proper model for Bjorn!

[Bigred]

one of Gary's birds (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Faeit212/~3/wZmpHhgvcWU/space-wolf-codex-and-bjorn-and-next.html) says this is next week:


-Bjorn
-New SW Dreadnought w/ Rampage and Furious Charge. Ap2 talons with Shred.
-Codex Space Wolves

[spud75]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that murderfang is the new name for Bjorn's claws.

[40kGamer]

I would be well peeved if Grey Hunters lost the ccw, bolt pistol, bolters combo my entire great company is kitted out with a mix of weapons. Don't fancy rearming them just to suit poor codex writing!'

Right there with you. All of the rumors listed make wolves generic marines wearing furs... hopefully these wash out as false.

[Unionfootball067]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that murderfang is the new name for Bjorn's claws.

Murderfang is the name of the new dreadnought

[DWest]

-New SW Dreadnought w/ Rampage and Furious Charge. Ap2 talons with Shred.
It was if millions of Furiosos and DC Dreads with Blood Talons cried out in rage, and were tossed back into bitz boxes.

[YourSwordisMine]

It was if millions of Furiosos and DC Dreads with Blood Talons cried out in rage, and were tossed back into bitz boxes.

And Helbrutes still cry...

[Bigred]

via LittleBird (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397904-Codex-Space-Wolves-Information&) 7-26-2014


General Information about Codex: Space Wolves
Sagas are out, replaced with Warlord Traits
6 new Space Wolves Tactical Objectives
New Space Wolves Psychic Discipline: Tempestas (Source didn't get any actual rules though)


'Space Wolves Unleashed' Detachment FOC:
Identical to standard FOC, except may take up to 6 HQs
May re-roll Warlord Traits
Each unit joined by an Independent Character rolls a d6, on a 6+ that unit gains Outflank. Troops choices get +2 on this roll.


Great Company Formation:
1 Wolf Lord
1 Wolf Guard Battle Leader
1 unit of Wolf Guard
5 units of Grey Hunters
1 unit of Wolf Scouts
5 units chosen from
2 units of Long Fangs
Grants two special rules, source did not get them


[B]Space Wolves Relics (Source didn't get rules, just name and type of item)
Armor of Russ (Armor)
Bite of Fenris (Bolter with two fire modes)
Black Death (Frost Axe, Rule: Whirldwind of Death)
Helm of Durfast (Wargear)
Fangsword of the Ice Wolf (Frost Sword)
Wulfenstone (Wargear)


Logan Grimnar - Lord of War - Points = Land Raider
Epic new model, comes with a sort of grav-chariot called 'Stormrider' pulled by two enormous Fenrisian wolves, but he can be used without it as well.
Stormrider
Treated as a vehicle, didn't get AVs, has a 4+ Invulnerable save and cannot suffer Penetrating hits (all Pens are reduced to Glances).
Gives Logan 4 S5 Ap- attacks on a turn when he charges.
Logan loses Deep Strike if he takes Stormrider
Lots of other cool rules, but didn't get those.


Njal Stormcaller
No new model shown in codex
Looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Ragnar Blackmane
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Ulrik the Slayer
No new model shown in codex
Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Canis Wolfborn
Again, looked to be mostly the same, no specific information


Harald Deathwolf
The resin Thunderwolf Cavalry character model assigned a name
Didn't get the rules/stats.


Bjorn the Fell-Handed
Epic new plastic model, part of a box that makes a regular SW Venerable Dreadnought, Bjorn, or a new special character Dreadnought named 'Murderfang'.
No longer becomes a VP objective when he dies.


Wolf Lord
Mostly the same, no specific information.


Rune Priest
Mostly the same.
Specifically noted as starting at Mastery Level 2.
No other information.


Wolf Priest
Mostly the same, no specific information


Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Mostly the same, no specific information


Blood Claws Pack
Wolf Guard Leader upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information


Lukas the Trickster
No specific information, probably the same.


Grey Hunters Pack
Bolter and Bolt Pistol
Any model may add a Close Combat Weapon
One Special weapon per full five models still, but costs raised to same as C:SMs
Wolf Guard Upgrade available
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport
No other information


Dreadnought
Not sure, but might have an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Murderfang
Crazy-awesome special character Venerable Dreadnought
Wolverine + Dreadnought + Extra Insanity = Murderfang
WS5 BS3 S6 F12 S12 R10 I4 A4 HP3
Wargear:
Searchlight
'Murderclaws' with underslung Storm Bolter and Heavy Flamer
Special Rules:
Furious Charge
It Will Not Die
Rage
Rampage
Murderlust
Options:
May take a Drop Pod
'Murderclaws' - A pair of enormous, even for a Dreadnought, Lightning Claws made of 'alien ice that never melts or loses sharpness'
S7 AP2 - Melee, Master-Crafted, Shred, Specialist Weapon


Venerable Dreadnought
Definitely has an option for a Helfrost Cannon
Can also have an enormous Power Axe and Storm Shield, said to look incredible.
Some special rules, but didn't get them


Iron Priest
No new model shown in codex
Options appeared to be nearly identical to old codex, probably a couple points changes though
Can take a unit of 1-5 Servitors, rules also looked the same as old codex


Lone Wolf
Rules nearly identical to old codex,
Owning player no longer gains a VP if they die
No other information


Wolf Guard Pack
This unit is just for Wolf Guard in Power Armor.
Have a similarly wide array of options as in the old codex, couldn't get specifics though
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport


Wolf Guard Terminator Pack
What it says on the tin, Wolf Guard in TDA
Storm Bolter and Power Weapon base
Options (any model in the unit can take these, this isn't all of the options though):
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Pair of Wolf Claws
Power Fist
Frost Axe
Frost Sword
Combi-weapon
Heavy Flamer
Assault Cannon
Cyclone Missile Launcher
May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport


Arjac Rockfist
Mostly the same, no specific information


Wolf Scouts
Source totally forgot to look at them. Sorry guys.


Swiftclaw Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Skyclaw Assault Pack
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information


Thunderwolf Cavalry
Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information



Stormwolf - Fast Attack
BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover, Transport)
Wargear:
Twin-linked helfrost cannon
Twin-linked lascannon
Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20pts
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Assault Vehicle
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity - sixteen models
Fire Points - none
Access Points - One ramp at the front of the hull


Stormfang Gunship - Heavy Support
BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover Transport)
Wargear:
Helfrost destructor
Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20 pts
Two Stormstrike missiles - May be replaced with a twin-linked lascannon for 15 pts
Ceramite Plating

Special Rules:
Power of the Machine Spirit

Transport:
Transport Capacity - six models
Fire Points - none
Access Points - One at rear of the hull

Helfrost cannon
dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blast
focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost

Helfrost destructor
dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blast
focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance

Helfrost - If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play

Land Speeder Squadron
Same as Codex: Space Marines


Fenrisian Wolf Pack
Nearly identical to old codex, no specific information


Long Fangs Pack
Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a 'Long Fang Ancient'
Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles
Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though
Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information

Predator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Whirlwind
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Vindicator
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Land Raider and variants
Same as Codex: Space Marines

Rhino and Razorback
No Helfrost Cannon option for the Razorback, same as Codex: Space Marines

Drop Pod
Same as Codex: Space Marines


Notable Exclusions from Codex: Space Marines
No Stormtalon
No Storm Raven
No Hunter or Stalker
Space Wolves AA options: Stormwolf, Stormfang, ADL gun emplacement, and Allies

[Bold or Stupid]

If all this is true I will be very happy. Nice to see the Helm of Durfast again :)

[TopToffee]

Absurd if Ragnar really isn't getting a new model.

[Charon]

Why "absurd"?
Look at the whole Eldar range. Most of the models are around since 2nd edition and never got an update.

[Agramar]

Think about this:Almost all "old models" are still on sale are Jes Goodwin's works.Jes Goodwin is today the head or one of the "big bosses" of Citadel Miniatures,so this slow renovation of models is related with him.How?I dont´t know.Royalties?No,of course but there is something related...

[MarneusCalgar]

Curious about that Logan´s wolven chariot

[Mr Mystery]

Absurd if Ragnar really isn't getting a new model.

Simplicity itself to make a more up to date Ragnar out the plastics.

[bfmusashi]

But a new model wouldn't have the old boot knives; ;

[Eulermaths]

1019410195 Caestus, Stormfang, Stormfang, caestus

[madlib]

Curious about that Logan´s wolven chariot

More like, curious how stupid it's going to look.

[Agramar]

Another piece of information,very small piece:
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From,Chris B of Dakka Dakka,again.
http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com/2014/07/yna-maquina-psicotica-de-matar-llamada.html

[MarneusCalgar]

Little copypasting game using both images, the one from this:

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And the one from Dakka Dakka:

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And the result is, approximately, this (done by me, Wolfen from Laurana´s Tavern):

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http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/noticias-breves-apuntes-finales-del-dia.html

But for sure tomorrow we will see the full image properly!

[TopToffee]

Why "absurd"?
Look at the whole Eldar range. Most of the models are around since 2nd edition and never got an update.

Really?
Because it's just about the oldest model still in production (or at the very least in a pretty small group at the top of that list) and unlike some others, has aged pretty terribly.

Put together with the fact that Ragnar's company is the one GW have for years used to represent the Wolves, then yeah, I don't think absurd is too strong. Should really have been updated in the 5th ed release, never mind now.

[Mr Mystery]

Yet design classic remains a design classic.

Casting my mind back to 2nd Ed, when we really started to get Special Characters (though Space Woofs date from the very, very tail end (pun!) of Rogue Trader) the only ones to have been updated are...erm.....Yarrick, Ghaz, arguably Tycho*, and I think that's it, unless you count Njal's Terminator Armour model (and you'd then have to count Calgar's Terminator model too).

Ghaz? Ork species resized, so the old model would have look completely daft. And you can't do him without doing Yarrick, probably.

Tycho? Originally used an old, old model which was eventually renamed from Blood Angel Captain - so arguable as strictly speaking only one model has been sculpted to specifically represent Tycho.


I don't think I've missed anyone else from that era?

[Wolfshade]

Tigurius
Asmodai

[Mr Mystery]

Yes and yes - I stand corrected!

[Wolfshade]

But it is rare that they change them.

The Ghaz changing is easy to explain as he has more victories so he gets bigger and better stuff.

Unfortunately, that narrative then jars with the new Yarrick model.

[spud75]

Maybe Ragnar is no longer the SW poster boy!

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Man,I know and I am sorry to wishlist, but I wish they WOULD update all of these old characters, I love the plastic clampack character sprues they do nowadays. Not just SW that need updating either, the Eldar characters like the Phoenix lords especially look date nowadays.

[MarneusCalgar]

... And Wolves codex arrived!


http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/rumores-imagenes-exclusivas-de-la-nueva.html

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[40kGamer]

... And Wolves codex arrived!


http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/rumores-imagenes-exclusivas-de-la-nueva.html

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Happy Dance! :p

[Erik Setzer]

Okay, what the heck are in those special editions to be $180 and $250?!? The Orks had a two-volume set with tokens and it was $165. What more are they stuffing in these things? And why? The Orks set was only supposed to be 2000 copies and there's still copies available (making me wonder how I got 1967 when they sent me a number sticker... unless they stuffed the low numbers on the ones in the warehouse and sent out the rest). If they couldn't get people to buy that, why an even more expensive pair of sets?

Is this just testing the market to see how far they can push it?

I was never planning on getting special edition Space Wolves, Orks were the only ones I'd ever consider (and I almost skipped on it, but hey, it did have two books), but I have a friend who was wanting the special edition for the Space Wolves and now he has to pay even more than I did. It's going to be worse if that second book isn't a supplement like W!G was.

- - - Updated - - -

On a positive note, I like the first Dreadnought (even though it seems a little silly to be holding an axe and shield in its "hands"), and I like Bjorn. I'll probably keep using my current Bjorn model for him, unless the new basic model outclasses him too much. (Hey, he has a classic chassis, that makes sense, right?)

The Murderfang, though... Um... If the over-use of Murder Murder Murder didn't already annoy me, that model looks bleh. Way too much wolf stuff thrown on all over the model like they want to remind you it's Space WOLVES, a shield on the shoulder for no reason, and it looks like they "borrowed inspiration" from Wolverine after a fight with Ice Man for his weapons. If it never loses its sharpness or anything (which means it doesn't wear down with use), how do the claws seem to be chipped up? For that matter, how did they actually get them from wherever they were to install in the Dreadnought's knuckles? That would imply they can be cut, which means they can be damaged, which means with use they *will* lose their sharpness and need to be re-sharpened. And in just five minutes I've put more thought into that model and its background than anyone at GW did.

It's like the ******* love-child of Nagash and Lemartes v1...

[Shatterclaw]

Happy Dance! :p

lets out a unintelligible sound of lust.. then drools possibly on the verge of slobbering.

Yeah, Likes.. Me likely alot.. So.. um.. we can have three Elites.. so we can have two of the Ven dread axes.. one Murder fang, or normal shooty dread and Bjorn as a hq?

I might just do unbound.. and have a March of the Ancients.

[redking]

"I might just do unbound.. and have a March of the Ancients"

That sounds like a great idea!

[AnimosityCampaigns]

I gotta admit- Bjorn looks badass. That's a model I'd pick up just to paint and put on a display shelf.

Also, "Murderfang" would make a lot more sense if it was named "Wulfen Dreadnought" instead... since that's what it appears to be.

- Animosity

[Erik Setzer]

I gotta admit- Bjorn looks badass. That's a model I'd pick up just to paint and put on a display shelf.

Also, "Murderfang" would make a lot more sense if it was named "Wulfen Dreadnought" instead... since that's what it appears to be.

- Animosity

Yeah, I'm really not getting why it's called a Murderfang with Murderclaws who has Murderlust. None of that sounds even remotely right for the attitude of the Space Wolves. Murder is a cold, brutal act of unnecessary violence. Space Wolves are all about doing violence "the right way." Murder just feels like something they'd consider a cowardly act, not something they'd want to slap all over one of their living ancients. Even if it is an ancient Space Wolf who devolved due to the Wulfen.