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islyfe
01-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Do all the xenos have red blood?

Auroth
01-11-2010, 10:15 PM
Probably not. No.

Tau, for example, have blue blood.

Dark_Templar
01-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Probably not. No.

Tau, for example, have blue blood.

Interesting that you say "probably not" and then go on to give an example of a race with blue blood.

Anyways, Orks used to be green-blooded up until it was retconned.

Madjob
01-11-2010, 10:49 PM
Tyranids can have just about any color blood you can imagine, most likely.

BuFFo
01-11-2010, 11:32 PM
Do all the xenos have red blood?

In a fantasy game setting where there is NO true canon, as it can change on the whim of an author, alien blood can be whatever color you want it to be.

Just_Me
01-12-2010, 12:57 AM
Nope, as I am sure you well know human blood only appears red because it uses iron as a "bonding agent" to transport oxygen around the body, when iron bonds with oxygen (oxidizes) it turns red, when we see this in the world around us, we call it "rust." In actuality human blood is mostly plasma (i.e. water) and fairly colorless. All it would take for xenos to have different colored blood is for it to use a different metal to bond with the oxygen, thus Star Trek justifies Vulcan blood as green because it is copper based.

Tau blood is blue I believe, possibly cobalt based (though I'm not sure).

Ork blood includes chlorophyll and copper, so it might well be greenish.

The Kroot have seperate circulatory systems, the most basic and integrated of which of which is Ork based (the consumption of Orks from a wrecked ship in the dim past seems to have been the catalyst for what they are now), while the other could be different depending on what the kindred has been feeding on.

Tyranid blood uses bonding compounds unfamiliar to the Imperium, so it could be any color. Genestealer blood may be similar to base creature's blood. Also, given the hivemind's propensity for tinkering with it's species, their circulatory system could be re-arranged in any number of ways, so no way to predict its color.

Some species (like the Q'Orl) have something that isn't really "blood" but fulfill a similar role, while still others (e.g. Umbra) have nothing even remotely recognizable as blood.

In short, Xenos blood could be any number of different colors, depending on their specific biology.

EDIT:

And this is why you CAN have female Space Marines.

Aaagh! Why would you even joke about starting that discussion again!?

Dark_Templar
01-12-2010, 12:57 AM
In a fantasy game setting where there is NO true canon, as it can change on the whim of an author, alien blood can be whatever color you want it to be.

And this is why you CAN have female Space Marines.

slxiii
01-12-2010, 02:22 AM
Probably not. No.

Tau, for example, have blue blood.

Sort of.
Tau don't EXACTLY have blue blood.... there is a lot of evidence for them having blue blood, however they've been portrayed as having red blood everywhere i've seen...

Wolfshade
01-12-2010, 04:23 AM
Tyranids can have just about any color blood you can imagine, most likely.

Now do Tyranids actually have blood or do they have other more alien methods for distributing stimulants and energy (and possibly oxygen, but given there precense on space hulks and flying ships they might not actually need oxygen or breathe for that matter)

AbeSapien
01-12-2010, 08:04 AM
Ork blood is definitely red. It was stated for certain in a white dwarf.

The green colour in their skin comes from chlorophyll so they can photosynthesize sunlight like a plant but their physiology underneath is mammalian like us.

This means their blood is red, plus it looks more dramatic on their green skin.

Morgrim
01-12-2010, 08:04 AM
Between the annelid and crustacean animal groups, blood pigments can be red, green, blue, yellow or purple. I figure if we can get those colours on earth, could certainly get them in xenos; the oxygen carrying compounds are known to exist.

For some reason I've always visualised tyrannids as bleeding a greenish-yellow pale ichor.

Asymmetrical Xeno
01-12-2010, 10:20 AM
my enslavers blood is yellow and glows...

Madjob
01-12-2010, 10:20 AM
Ork blood is definitely red. It was stated for certain in a white dwarf.

The green colour in their skin comes from chlorophyll so they can photosynthesize sunlight like a plant but their physiology underneath is mammalian like us.

This means their blood is red, plus it looks more dramatic on their green skin.

Actually it's because the spores in their blood can grow into a thin algae membrane just underneath their skin.

Though both explanations are not mutually exclusive.

The.Justinian
01-12-2010, 10:55 AM
Tyranids don't neccessarily have blood at all. Depending on the environment, the Hive might reeingineer the metabolic process of its creatures for an anaerobic environment, instead using chemical-voltaic storage (yes, battery powered tyranids); nuclear fuel cells, or who knows what.

I've always imagined the big tyranids that are obviously war-beasts designed from the ground up (warriors and gaunts appear to have been something other than soldiers at some point in their existence)...are powered by something other than eating. Their abdomens are far too small to support digestion for their energy level, and that kind of digestive system would be redundant weight in combat (never seen a solar attack helicopter or MBT, have we?). So Carnifexes, Trygons, and Tyrands thus likely carry predigested energy...just imagine rippers puking some nutrient solution down their gullet, or perhaps a digestion pool beaming them microwave power between battles.

How the power is circulated, however, to the muscles and brain would have to be through either a bloodlike liquid (pumped by a heart or very toned, redundant arteries), or through wiring (more believable than one would think, as biometals in their skeleton or carbon fiber are the only things that could make them as tough as they are). However, this is merely the conduit for nutrients, and needn't necessarily be carrying the oxygen as well. Many terrestrial lifeforms have a nutrient-circulation system but use alternate means of aquiring oxygen.

Most of the assumptions in the posts above have assumed aerobic respiration+metabolism of sugars as the basic means of cell function, and we'll play along and assume that even if the big beasts are carrying a nuclear fuel cell, it's still assembling sugar for the rest of the body, and will need an oxidizer (oxygen for today) to get the energy back out in a biologically relevant form.

They could acquire this oxygen not from blood but through small respiration tunnels throughout the surface of the organism, or could store pure O2 in bladders near the muscles for bursts of energy. In insect wing muscles, their surface is so close to the air that much of the oxygen is garnered through diffusion (also one of the gold medalists of the animal kingdom for most efficient aerobic energy conversion). Remember, we're dealing with an organism that's designed deliberately, rather than having the legacy of being evolved from a slug (which we, unfortunately, do have to deal with every day).

Do tyranids have circulatory fluid? probably, unless they're close to cyborgs with bio-wiring (possible but wouldn't sit well with most). Does that fluid have a color based on the oxidized metal that is carrying the oxidizer for metabolism? Not necessarily. It depends on whether you think your bug has lungs.

I'd say that given the size of their thorax, that's what's likely is in there...one GIANT lung, gathering and concentrating O2 for the body. The energy is simply stored, but the oxidizer needs to be acquired. So what's the color of it? probably the color of the easiest to replace/assemble/most efficient compromise element on this world, subject to change. Given that copper requires less energy to smelt into a useable form on our terrestrial earth, the hive mind would likely use copper unless it was far less efficient than Fe. Thus wounded carnifexes could get a cheaper/more available blood transfusion as they were rehabilitated for battle.

So...
If Tyranids were to invade a planet with a similar mineral profile to earth, with a similarly oxygen-rich atmosphere, their blood would be...
GREEN.

Valkerie
01-12-2010, 12:38 PM
Ork blood is definitely red. It was stated for certain in a white dwarf.

The green colour in their skin comes from chlorophyll so they can photosynthesize sunlight like a plant but their physiology underneath is mammalian like us.

This means their blood is red, plus it looks more dramatic on their green skin.

What he said.

In an older White Dwarf,[and I can't remember which one now,] one of the designers said something to the effect that Ork blood was supposed to be green, but that when painted on an Ork it just looked like they'd been sick all over themselves, so they painted the blood red so it would look better.

gilbert93dt
01-12-2010, 07:28 PM
I tend to make the blood of my Tau blue. Only because it looks awesome with their golden armor and white trim. It essentially acts as the much needed third color.

lobster-overlord
01-12-2010, 07:45 PM
What he said.

In an older White Dwarf,[and I can't remember which one now,] one of the designers said something to the effect that Ork blood was supposed to be green, but that when painted on an Ork it just looked like they'd been sick all over themselves, so they painted the blood red so it would look better.


I remember the same article. It also referenced that because we bleed red, that our minds don't really process other colors in as gory a manner as with red.