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John Bower
05-09-2014, 02:59 AM
If I have an officer in a building; can he issue orders? Or is he counted as being in a vehicle and therefore unable to tell his men what to do?

The common sense side of me says he should be able to; no officer in his right mind stands out in the open when there's a bunker available and they still issue tactical orders to their men/women.
The GW RAW side of me reads it as a 'no' since the above and GW don't sit well together.

Blood Shadow
05-09-2014, 03:24 AM
I guess getting a phone signal is just as much of a ball ache in the 41st Millenia.....

The rules are quite clear I think, if there was a comms relay fitted then there most certainly should not be a problem with it.

Wolfshade
05-09-2014, 03:25 AM
I think that this requires a proper FAQ.

In a lot of ways buildings are "immobile" vehicles, rules wise, so you could use those.

Junior Commisar
05-09-2014, 03:41 AM
A unit inside a building follows all the rules for being embarked in a vehicle, so if you can issue orders while in a transport, you can issue orders while in a building.

John Bower
05-09-2014, 06:30 AM
I guess getting a phone signal is just as much of a ball ache in the 41st Millenia.....

The rules are quite clear I think, if there was a comms relay fitted then there most certainly should not be a problem with it.

Except the rules for Comms relays just let you re-roll reserves. :(

Anyway, thanks guys, looks like I was playing it right; so Gorman (yeah that Gorman) had to come out to give his orders which of course led to him dying covered in acid from an over flying Crone.

This Dave
05-09-2014, 07:49 AM
Except the rules for Comms relays just let you re-roll reserves. :(

Anyway, thanks guys, looks like I was playing it right; so Gorman (yeah that Gorman) had to come out to give his orders which of course led to him dying covered in acid from an over flying Crone.

The secret to that is to put him on the battlements and buy the bunker a Void Shield from Stronghold Assault. That way he can still give orders, has good cover, and is protected against a random ignores cover attack.

John Bower
05-09-2014, 08:45 AM
The secret to that is to put him on the battlements and buy the bunker a Void Shield from Stronghold Assault. That way he can still give orders, has good cover, and is protected against a random ignores cover attack.

That could be a good idea; assuming points available to do it of course. More chance after 24th May I guess when troops won't matter so much. To be honest though This Dave, nobody liked the guy anyway; every time he gives an order he gets told to go forth and multiply.... ;)

Junior Commisar
05-09-2014, 10:24 AM
That could be a good idea; assuming points available to do it of course. More chance after 24th May I guess when troops won't matter so much. To be honest though This Dave, nobody liked the guy anyway; every time he gives an order he gets told to go forth and multiply.... ;)

With fluid objectives with cards you can complete and get more of, its likely Troops will be just as important, if not more so.

Nabterayl
05-09-2014, 11:34 AM
So in general, no (unless he's on the battlements, as others have said). Easy proof: if officers could give orders from inside a vehicle, the Chimera wouldn't need a special rule saying, "An officer inside this vehicle can give orders."

This Dave
05-09-2014, 12:58 PM
So in general, no (unless he's on the battlements, as others have said). Easy proof: if officers could give orders from inside a vehicle, the Chimera wouldn't need a special rule saying, "An officer inside this vehicle can give orders."

Especially as radios in the 40K universe don't seem to increase the range you can talk to someone, just apparently how loud you talk. :)

Nabterayl
05-09-2014, 01:17 PM
Or how clearly.

"What's that, Sir? I couldn't understand you."

"I'm two feet away from you, Jenkins."

"Sorry sir, there doesn't seem to be enough static on this line."

"That's because I'm talking to you face to face. Damn it all, man, I came to this section of the line to speak to you in person! Now tell your squad -"

"Just a moment ... Sir, you speak into that vox phone there, and I'll call my vox man over."

"I'm right here, Sergeant!"

"Wait one, Sir. Hadley - bring the vox over; I can't understand the lieutenant!"

Tynskel
05-09-2014, 07:10 PM
Or how clearly.

"What's that, Sir? I couldn't understand you."

"I'm two feet away from you, Jenkins."

"Sorry sir, there doesn't seem to be enough static on this line."

"That's because I'm talking to you face to face. Damn it all, man, I came to this section of the line to speak to you in person! Now tell your squad -"

"Just a moment ... Sir, you speak into that vox phone there, and I'll call my vox man over."

"I'm right here, Sergeant!"

"Wait one, Sir. Hadley - bring the vox over; I can't understand the lieutenant!"

better in movie form:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXKOsajNZY4

Charistoph
05-12-2014, 01:33 PM
Or how clearly.

"What's that, Sir? I couldn't understand you."

"I'm two feet away from you, Jenkins."

"Sorry sir, there doesn't seem to be enough static on this line."

"That's because I'm talking to you face to face. Damn it all, man, I came to this section of the line to speak to you in person! Now tell your squad -"

"Just a moment ... Sir, you speak into that vox phone there, and I'll call my vox man over."

"I'm right here, Sergeant!"

"Wait one, Sir. Hadley - bring the vox over; I can't understand the lieutenant!"

The texting generation at war... How sad but true this is...