Dave Caruana
03-30-2014, 04:58 AM
Spent a long 3 hours staring at the book and rulebook pounding at my head to cme up with a totally different look at the book from the way most ppl look at it.Hence, ive come up with this. I sat down and looked at what nids lack, our weakspots, which is what ppl counter via taking allies, something I cannot do. I came to the conclusion, obvious as it may be, that we lack 4 things or overlook them:24"+ firepower, S10 and Low Ap, 2+ armor and INVULNERABLE SAVES, which is why helldrakes are sooo much worse for nids.
After writing those down I got out all the units with an invulnerable save and/or 2+ save in the book-Zoanthropes and Tyrannofexes. THEN, it dawned on me, skyshield landing pad confers 4+ invulnerable! Yet with all those points taken up on spamming 9 Zoanthropes firing 3 s10 ap2 Lance 18" per *unit or 24" s5 ap3 blasts and 3 Fexs with a 48" s10 ap4 assault 2 there was no way I could fit the flying circus of 3 crones and 2 flyrants, however, if I put 2 tyrants with wings on the ground on the skyshield theyd now have a 4+ invulnerable save, id leave them with devourers and have an 18+18+ width of skyshield type of AA!!The tactic is simple, tyrannofexs and flyrants on skyshield, getting 2+/4++ t6 w6 dinosaurs, and 2 flyrants with a 3+/4++ save, shooting at opponent from afar, while the zoanthropes with their 3+ invulnerable walk the table firing s5 ap3 blasts or s10 ap2 lance, thats a total of 9+6=15 s10 shots, 2 flyrants and 3 units of zoans that can buff via psychic powers and all at decent range and very surviveable.(N.B if u buff with zoans u use 1 warp charge and wnt be able to fire the warp blast, but its always good to knw and have as an option.)
Pls note that I only added the crone as I had that much extra points left over, I thought it could act as a decent distraction, it cud deep strike automatically on skyshield and fire 4 missiles and if something gets too close, VECTOR STRIKE, but I cud easily remove it and add mre troops. N.B dont forget that the 10 termagants would go way down in the opponents main target list, could also get the 4++ and would probably all fit on it until its time to grab objectives which would abviously be placed close to were the skyshield would be placed and are easily hidden behind a tyrannofex or under the skyshield itself, whilst with bigger units its harder to do that.
Oh, and even with the crone, I still have 15pts to spare, so by removing the crone id have 170pts to fill troops or fast attack with.
(Edit-Removed Crone entirely in my last edit.)
So, look at the list and tell me what you think!! :)))
TyranidsTotal Points: 1850pts
HQ-2.0* E-3.0* Tr-4.0* FA-0.0* HS-3.0* Fo-1.0
HQ
Flyrant-230pts
Wings, Devourersx2
Flyrant-230pts
Wings, Devourersx2.
Elites
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
Troops
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
Heavy Support
Tyrannofex-215pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo, Shreddershard Beetles.
Tyrannofex-205pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo
Tyrannofex-205pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo
Fortification
Sky Shield Landing Pad-75pts.
Total 1850pts.
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After writing those down I got out all the units with an invulnerable save and/or 2+ save in the book-Zoanthropes and Tyrannofexes. THEN, it dawned on me, skyshield landing pad confers 4+ invulnerable! Yet with all those points taken up on spamming 9 Zoanthropes firing 3 s10 ap2 Lance 18" per *unit or 24" s5 ap3 blasts and 3 Fexs with a 48" s10 ap4 assault 2 there was no way I could fit the flying circus of 3 crones and 2 flyrants, however, if I put 2 tyrants with wings on the ground on the skyshield theyd now have a 4+ invulnerable save, id leave them with devourers and have an 18+18+ width of skyshield type of AA!!The tactic is simple, tyrannofexs and flyrants on skyshield, getting 2+/4++ t6 w6 dinosaurs, and 2 flyrants with a 3+/4++ save, shooting at opponent from afar, while the zoanthropes with their 3+ invulnerable walk the table firing s5 ap3 blasts or s10 ap2 lance, thats a total of 9+6=15 s10 shots, 2 flyrants and 3 units of zoans that can buff via psychic powers and all at decent range and very surviveable.(N.B if u buff with zoans u use 1 warp charge and wnt be able to fire the warp blast, but its always good to knw and have as an option.)
Pls note that I only added the crone as I had that much extra points left over, I thought it could act as a decent distraction, it cud deep strike automatically on skyshield and fire 4 missiles and if something gets too close, VECTOR STRIKE, but I cud easily remove it and add mre troops. N.B dont forget that the 10 termagants would go way down in the opponents main target list, could also get the 4++ and would probably all fit on it until its time to grab objectives which would abviously be placed close to were the skyshield would be placed and are easily hidden behind a tyrannofex or under the skyshield itself, whilst with bigger units its harder to do that.
Oh, and even with the crone, I still have 15pts to spare, so by removing the crone id have 170pts to fill troops or fast attack with.
(Edit-Removed Crone entirely in my last edit.)
So, look at the list and tell me what you think!! :)))
TyranidsTotal Points: 1850pts
HQ-2.0* E-3.0* Tr-4.0* FA-0.0* HS-3.0* Fo-1.0
HQ
Flyrant-230pts
Wings, Devourersx2
Flyrant-230pts
Wings, Devourersx2.
Elites
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
X3 Zoanthropes-150pts
Troops
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
X15 Termagants-60pts
Heavy Support
Tyrannofex-215pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo, Shreddershard Beetles.
Tyrannofex-205pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo
Tyrannofex-205pts
Rupture Cannon, Stinger Salvo
Fortification
Sky Shield Landing Pad-75pts.
Total 1850pts.
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