Warhammer World Accepts Escalation, Stronghold and Dataslates

[Denzark]

Hot off the press, the GW Warhammer World crew have updated facebook and the warrior code that governs GW tournament type events there, such as Throne of Skulls.

So Escalation, Stronghold and also Dataslates can now be used.

Wow.

https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerWorld

[Wolfshade]

Hmm, interesting.

Obviously a bit of a two fingers to those who say it can't work at tournaments...

[Denzark]

I don't think they give a rooting rat toss about anything to do with tournaments tbh.

[Wolfshade]

No I don't think that they do either.

Though I suppose that they have to back their ruleset as being fair and balanced and able to be intergrated into normalK

[Denzark]

I agree Wolfy. Now the last thing outstanding is FW.

[Mr Mystery]

WHW Tournaments are predominantly gamer meets, rather than some bizarre hardcore gaming environment despite the total lack of a cash prize, let alone a cash prize worth fighting for.

It's a hobby showcase overall.

And as with any organised event, don't like the rules being applied, don't partake.

Plus, the lack ambiguity about it means people can plan accordingly. Expected the expected, and you've improved your chances already.

[Denzark]

MM Don't mistake the pleasant environs, easy access to Bugmans xxxxxx and the lack of non-trophy/certificate prizes, to mean it is just some friendly gamer meet. There are some proper beards there and always a high proportion of the latest 'power builds' For sure there are wonderful fluff lists also, just in lesser proportion to the finely tuned multi suit, MC or flyer lists.

[Mr Mystery]

Always have been, always will be.

Escalation and that don't really change things up much in that department.

You never know the 'bah, my Draigowing* is under threat as they might field Strength D stuff!' may help rein in some of the beardier builds.

Taking a Super Heavy is a pretty considerable points investment, leaving the rest of your army pretty dinky. Take that out and it's a struggle for your opponent to then win.

I think what I'm trying to say is 'more variables reduce the number of 'sure thing' builds'

*This may not be the most up to date of beardlists, but it's a name of one I know!

(edited on account it seems I'd forgotten my spellings!)

[Denzark]

A good point.

[Sly]

Hmm, interesting.

Obviously a bit of a two fingers to those who say it can't work at tournaments...

Heh. Allowing it into tournaments doesn't mean that it can work at tournaments. Or, in another type of thinking, if a tournament can be run with it, then it clearly "can work".
The real question is whether it's a good thing or not, and this doesn't address that question. Although the results and comments from the tournaments may help answer it.

[Wolfshade]

I think the "goodness" of it is dependent on the player.

And I think that there are two very seperate questions, is it good? and can it work? are two questions, though clearly intertwined. Clearly, if something doesn't work it can't be good, but things can work but not be good.

I think GW saying that it will be in their tournaments is a big sign saying that it does and can work in a tournament setting, but then surely a tournament is just a series of pre-arranged pick-up games and since it does work in pick-up games it must then work in a tournament setting.

Possibly.

I think that it will take a while to get our heads around the different possibilities and opportunities. I would like for it to add greater variation and variety in my games, after all we do get a little bored of facing the nth scyth list.

[Denzark]

The question for me Wolfy is: 'Is the reason I am seeing less croissant of doom lists, because those people have migrated onto 'D plates of doom'?'

Cos if so they can stick their variety in their own Eye of Terror.

[Popsical]

I may just pop by warhammer world next ToS round just to see the netlist spam obsessed bore mongers get wasted by D weapons.

[daboarder]

this is just silly.

WW, yeah a revenant titan is fine, but you can't be running things from FW that would just be broken.

screw this, I wont be playing against D-weapons, removing my army because a template touched it isn't "fun".

[oni]

v1.3 of the Warriors Code is available. Escalation, Stronghold Assault and Dataslates are all listed as acceptable to use.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=2200016a

[Pure Legend]

this is just silly.

WW, yeah a revenant titan is fine, but you can't be running things from FW that would just be broken.

screw this, I wont be playing against D-weapons, removing my army because a template touched it isn't "fun".

I don't mean to speak out of turn as I've never played at a tournament of any sort though I have been and watched a few with a friend and I'd say from that experience 80% of people do not have fun anyway. The sort of people who take screamer stars and Farsight bombs for example or a flying monstrous daemon prince list where they spend the entire game flying off the table to pointless debates and different opinions over a minor technicality. The rules for 40k are not conclusive and far from perfect we all know that, but it shouldn't be a surprise that Games Workshop would support its own new supplements in this way.

The core rule-set isn't a suitable foundation to play a competitive tournament on from the offset. Let alone every single Codex and supplement which is thereafter released distorting any level playing field which may of been present. Destroyer weapons, flyers, 2+ invuns etc, it doesn't matter it's already broken but you'll play this but you won't play that. You'll happily play a screamer star born from the 6th edition Codex in a tournament but you won't play a Destroyer Weapon shoot fortification born a 6th edition supplement. You'll allow a Farsight Enclaves supplement O'vesa star but not a Baneblade (or worse) because that's ridiculous.

What my point was it's all broken from the off. You wan't to play something competitively play chess and then you can argue about the queen being too over-powered.