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Whereswaldo
12-12-2013, 04:48 PM
Thoughts?

Cactus
12-12-2013, 05:16 PM
Valk can jink and has more pew pew pew.

Chimeras are cheaper, don't move as far and get one turn of smoke if you don't shoot your guns.

This Dave
12-12-2013, 05:51 PM
The Valkyrie can get the Inquisitor and cronies where you want/need them quicker and easier, including Grav Chuting them without stopping if you need it somewhere else. The Valkyrie is better at fighting other Flyers and can be better against vehicles and other big things and/or mobs depending how you equip it. It's also more survivable because of the better armor and Jinking/Flying.

The Chimera is cheaper points wise and has the advantage of usually starting on the table since it isn't required to start in Reserve like the Valkyrie. It also has the advantage that the Inquisitor and cronies can shoot or use Psychic powers while still inside it. If you give it a Heavy Bolter or TL Heavy Bolter turret the Psybolt Ammunition upgrade becomes quite useful as they're now all S6.

Popsical
12-13-2013, 02:14 AM
Really?

Think: what reasons does a person buy a bentley continental instead of a dacia sandero.

The dacia is cheaper and easier to park.
The bentley is better at everything else.

Done.

Denzark
12-13-2013, 04:45 AM
Popsical - neither of those fly, nor have a remit to protect the soft fleshy contents from high velocity weaponry. Unless you ar on about one of the Queen's Bentleys of course.

Katharon
12-13-2013, 04:51 AM
I think it depends more on the cargo being carried, rather than on the mode of transportation being used. Certain units are more effective delivered one way, others -- another.

Whereswaldo
12-13-2013, 05:45 PM
I'm thinking cargo wise ... divination inquisitor, 8 psykers (for the str 10 ap2 large blast) 3 servos with heavy bolters - maybe a valkyrie with the multilaser & multiple rocket pods. Comes out to just under 300pts of inquisition, which is the point cap I was looking for as an allied detachment.

Whereswaldo
12-13-2013, 05:47 PM
Everything in the unit but the inquisitor would have 36" range but between good drop placement or grav chutes might keep them alive a little longer than the 24" for plasma warrior acolytes (and servos are cheaper - and not half bad with divination primarius).

Learn2Eel
12-13-2013, 07:02 PM
Valkyries are warrior demi-goddesses.
Chimeras are three headed monsters.
Valkyries win.

Katharon
12-13-2013, 07:25 PM
Everything in the unit but the inquisitor would have 36" range but between good drop placement or grav chutes might keep them alive a little longer than the 24" for plasma warrior acolytes (and servos are cheaper - and not half bad with divination primarius).

Yeah...and if they were in a Chimera with a Camo Net, they could move *and* fire out the top. Only one psyker channels the power of the others, so you could have the psykers, the 3 heavy bolters, and the Inquisitor all fire out at the same time)

Haighus
12-13-2013, 07:42 PM
A chimera with 2 heavy bolters, a storm bolter and psybolt ammo also pumps out a lot of light vehicle killing shots, which also happen to ID T3 models and are AP4 (except the storm bolter, but it makes the most of the psybolt ammo to have one) It was mentioned above, but a valkyrie can't really fulfil this roll great. Tbh, Valks are only good with the rocket pods for anti infantry saturation when it comes to shooting- Hellstrike missiles are fairly useless with them forcing snap shots for every other weapon on the Valk. The Valk also can't take Psybolt ammo for it's heavy bolters (if it is upgraded with them).

Not to mention you can almost take 2 of the Psybolt Chimeras for the cost of one valk with rocket pods.

Whereswaldo
12-13-2013, 08:56 PM
Ya, I was originally going to go with a psybolt chimera but ... i'm slowly phasing out my tri-raider dark angels to C:SM bikes (1500pts, 2 storm talons and the rest are bikes) with the raiders the chimera would work great, in a full bike army I see the chimera being the first thing shot off of the board.

Just not sure which of the two would be the better fit.