Your favourite size game?

[Popsical]

As the title says, how many points do you think per side is the best size game of 40k? (not apocalypse)
Does number of players also help for you?

For me its between 3500-5000pts as it lets me use my siege assault vanguard in all its glory.

Moderator note: Poll added

[Lost Vyper]

I prefer 1500-2500 points, normally that means about two games in one day...last game was 3000p and it took the whole day...it was still great game thou!

[DWest]

Personally, I'm partial to 1750, it still goes pretty quickly, but there's just enough points for some really fun toys.

[Wolfshade]

1000.

It is small and quick, but most importantly, you have to make some seriously hard choices for every item, each upgrade is a hard thought out. As you get larger the points are not so hard to come by so a 15 point upgrade isn't a problem but at 1000pts it is a challenging decision.

[Popsical]

Small games just arent an option with the seige vanguard, 1000pts wont allow purchases of the units neccessary to counter the seige objective rule.
1750 is just about the minimum the vanguard can be used in. That relies on choosing the cheapest units in the sm codex across the board (cant have scouts, bikes or drop pods tho), as the advantages of the vanguard are 4 heavy slots and dreads as troops.

[Bored Lyron]

I prefer 1500 points, as it restricts your options, you can't have everything you want and need to make hard choices about what to drop while still allowing different combinations to be fielded. Another point that I like about 1500 and smaller games is that even if you take your time to think your moves through, the game still doesn't take too long.

[SaveModifier]

1000 points is good, forces you to write concise lists, the game is over before I get bored and people don't get to use those netlist combos that break the game

[Popsical]

Oh theres a net list for any game size buddy.
If 1000pts became tournie standard they would be found.
Back in 4th ed my group did 400pts for a good period of time. Turned out guard were pretty much unbeatable due to the sheer amount of cheap av12 tanks they could get (salamander scout tanks being down right nasty).
You just mainly see netlists at 1500 to 2000 because thats tournie territory.
Another reason i prefer bigger games (tho i loath apoc).

[blueshift]

5751

[Maelstorm]

For me it falls between 1500-1850, or local tournament size. I won't play in 2,000+ point standard games because of the additional FOC abuse that begins at that level.

I will jump in on the occasional Apoc game to field 6,000-19,000+ points of Necrons. :)

[TheyStoleMyName!]

I'm not terribly fond of the points spread as they're listed here. We play 1850 or (more often) 2000, where as 2500 basically never gets played outside of the occasional tag match. 2000 to me fits into the range of "standard" 40k, with plenty of tournaments falling in to that range as well, while 2500 falls into that awkward gap between a "standard" game and Apoc, and really doesn't tend to see much one-on-one play in my experience.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

1000 points and about 20-30 models is just right for me.

[Captain Bubonicus]

I particularly enjoy the very small "skirmish" battles (500pts) AND the very large "Apocalypse" size battles (5000! pts). I guess I play enough mid-range points games that I particularly enjoy playing something a bit different!

[Chaoschrist]

1750 to 1850 for me.

No overly large table needed (4" or 6" by 4 should be sufficient), game plays for a good while and it doesn't take ages for your opponent to finish his movement and whatever he's doing in his turn (though this might depend on the player and being a bit more skilled in playing the game itself).

Anything bigger and it really depends on the army you both play. Playing 2500 points of Deathwing clearly is different than playing 2500 points of Orks (though that many Orks look impressive).

I would like to play smaller games at some point, and maybe mess around a bit more with different armies (since obviously 1000 points of an army is less of a money issue than having a 1500+ point army) or even armylists. Some armies I have will play differently in low points games... Fateweaver and/or a daemon prince in 1000 points is a significant expense there, and chances are it will die faster due to small arms fire cause people don't bring lots of tanks in general I guess.

And since, if I play at a store and have to travel by public transport... small games might be less of a transport issue.

Small games and Zone mortalis actually sound like fun. But then again, I guess there's other gamesystems for skirmish type of games as well.

As for apocalypse, I don't think I'd mind anything really big there... I played a 15k apoc battle once at the local GW store with 7 other people.. that was a mess. Later I played a 7k battle one on one and that was more of a success... so it's either the amount of players or just some players in general where I felt it dragged the game down a lot.

[SON OF ROMULOUS]

for me its always been between 1850-2000 points this covers standard tournament lists and test lists at 1850 and honestly i like bigger games so 2000 is a nice round number. i know id like to try playing 2250 or 2500+ games every so often. i usually average a game a week mainly on the weekends. So one big game a week wouldn't bother me and it would allow me to play around with some different combinations. i know i have yet to actually fill an entire roster this edition. so more point means more chances to do so :)

[Kernbanks]

I am definately APOC level... but if not dedicating the weekend i want it 750 (+/- 250) for a game that will run under 2 hours.

[Vangrail]

I like 1850+ i love double force org as long as people don't completely abuse it. I love big games so i can use all of my sons of medusa really cool to see them all on the field. But i under stand the hate of double force org. Personally i welcome it. You still have to do 2hqs and 4 troops. So honestly not that bad. Unless its chaos cultists with 6 turkeys. But with me i can use all my termis, dreads, and sternguard. Then heavy i have way too many choices, but hell i can use at least 6! I know a lot of people don't like double force org because they simply don't have the models.

[Grey Mage]

I put 1500-1850, but thats only because 1250-1500 wasnt actually an option for some reason. I like the choices you have to make in list building, and the emphasis on troops that occurs in the smaller games, while still allowing heroes to be heroes and hammers to be hammers.

[Dave Mcturk]

1750 is a good compromise if time is tight... have started playing 1400pts in a 2hour maximum... seems to work ok

[mattblowers]

1250-1500. I like it when you have to make hard choices and not get everything you want in a list. I feel that playing these point levels makes me a better player and I learn what my units are actually good at.

[Dalleron]

1500 is my favourite size for 40k. You can cover most of your bases at this level, but you have to make decisions on things you want vs need. 17/1850 let you have both by and large.

1000 pointers are fun too.

[Marshal_Loss]

1500-1850 - large enough to use what I want but small enough to stop people from going all-out

[phreakachu]

Thats kind of like getting asked 'what kind of sex do you like'... lol. I simply enjoy playing, regardless of point size.

[mysterex]

1250-1500. I like it when you have to make hard choices and not get everything you want in a list. I feel that playing these point levels makes me a better player and I learn what my units are actually good at.

Agree, although I prefer the 1500 point end of that range. Having to decide which units and upgrades to take under those restrictions makes the whole game that much more interesting.

[Don Pal]

I generally play 2K +, but I limit myself to 1 FOC so I can run more of my options, Once I hit 2500+ then double FOC come into play.

[Popsical]

I play single FOC up to 5000pts with fortifications and allies over 3000pts as an option.
This brings our full armies into play, but stops shenanigans of FOC abuse.

[iamian]

I played a 1000 pt and 750 pt game last night With my newly acquired Dark Angels. Man it sucked. In retrospect I should have played as codex marines as they had a 175 pt cap on your HQ choice. no belial, azrael, or samael.

At low points levels I can't field the type of army that draws me into 40k. Its a shame too as I would LOVE to join their league, but its just not fun.

[SaveModifier]

I play single FOC up to 5000pts with fortifications and allies over 3000pts as an option.
This brings our full armies into play, but stops shenanigans of FOC abuse.

So, you're not playing 40K then ;)

[Renegade]

I tend to prefer pickup games at 1500pts, keeps things at a nice balanced and interesting (as in there wont that many points for the more nasty things) yet enough to make a strong list all the same.

[Deadlift]

Since I've been using Eldar Jetbikes in killteam I have been so successful it's hard not to love 200pt games.

[warflail]

Loving Kill Teams at the moment - fast-paced fun! A nice way to give non-HQ units the limelight.

[Samuel Rose]

Apocolypse obviosly because it allows me to play my ENTIRE chapter

[Cactus]

I like 1850 and that's what I build most of my armies around. However, I like the 1999+1 format. 2,000 points but just one forceorg selection.